That sounds like a soul impression.  That you still remember it
now could mean that it is an important thing for you to do.
What does the rest of the list think of my deduction?

Robert
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http://www.unification911.org/principles.htm?
http://www.unification911.org/jsl/endorsed?number=14



--- In Keysters@y..., <consciencino@y...> wrote:
>
> I think Blayne is right about magnets and
> electromagnetism. Some sixteen years ago, I had this
> strong "mental" impression to design a power
> generating plant based on magnets. I actually started
> the paper dfesign but lost faith in myself because I
> felt I was just out of high school. Now I wish I had
> continued. The impression still comes to me from time
> to time. I think I will give putting it on paper a
> serious thought.
>
> Ben
>
> --- hawkiye55 <hawkiye@s...> wrote:
> > Conventional technolgy requires that you have to put
> > as much or more
> > energy into something to get the same or lessor
> > amount  out. That
> > would be under unity.
> >
> > Over unity means to take little or no energy in to
> > get maximum energy out.
> >
> > Example: to  to keep a car battery charged requires
> > an engine eating
> > lots of gas to turn an altenator to keep the battery
> > charged and run
> > all the electronics of the car.
> >
> > If you have something such as a magnetic motor the
> > perperually rotates
> > with no need of a fuel or electricity feed to power
> > it, that would
> > keep the battery charged and run electronics you
> > would essentially be
> > getting free energy.
> >
> > Blayne
> >
> >
> > --- In Keysters@y..., BambieA@a... wrote:
> > > Blayne writes:
> > >
> > > > "I also believe we are on the verge of other
> > technologies  such as
> > over
> > > > unity  etc. that will soon be available to the
> > consumer that are even
> > > > more efficient and can be implemented free of
> > the energy monopolies
> > > > from individuals to commumities."
> > >
> > > Please excuse my lack of technological knowledge
> > here, but what is
> > "over
> > > unity"?
> > >
> > > Marylin Adams
> > > I support The Principles of Unification
> > > http://www.unification911.org/principles.htm?
> > >
> > http://www.unification911.org/jsl/endorsed?number=25
> > > Have you read www.freeread.com?
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
>
>
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There was a moment in my life, 26 years ago:  I was in an emotionally
intense situation.  My, now ex-husband, left our two daughters in a van,
alone, in the hot Texas summer sun and went into the mess hall (Randolph
AFB, Texas) and was in there longer than he realized...

The SP's (Security Patrol) heard the youngest girl crying in the van and
investigated...and in that moment we were under investigation for child
abuse.

The anger, the fear, the hate I felt was off the Richter scale.  I could
barely stand to contemplate the consequences of what happened, let alone
be in the same room with the person who did the deed.

Out of desperation, implacable, abject terror: I fell down on my knees
and said the Lord's Prayer.  I turned it all over because I was
powerless, helpless, a victim of someone else's thoughtlessness and I
had no where to turn.  I was scared down to my soul.   I was a
comfortless child of God, plaintive in my cry for mercy and desire to be
spared the wrenching agony of my children being removed from my care and
love.  My only way out was: give it all up.  Any other way seemd to lead
to a spiral of madness that was more painful than any surrender I could
contemplate.

The moment I was done praying, I was instantly enveloped in a deep peace
and love that all would be well.

I believe:  My prayer was heard because I surrendered all control.  I
gave it all to God because I could not bear the burden for one moment
longer.  My surrender was total and complete, I held nothing back.

So:  is this how Joe overcomes The Dweller:  total surrender to the Will
of God?  The sword of Excaliber:  Ex...     meaning...no longer
fighting.  the sword that no longer fights.

Melva

Very good analogy Judy!

I agree the stone is the lower self composed of all the doubts fears
and lower desires etc. Perhaps it is the foundation of the dweller
itself When the sword is pulled from the stone it is the Christ
consciosness of the word of God which actually comes from within. The
dweeler actually begins to dies becuae his life as based on concealing
the sword by burying it in all the fears and doubts etc.

The sword is drawn and beast is slayen.

Many people know and quote scriptures and philosphies etc. and try to
do the right things but there is a feeling that there is something
more, greater hieghts. They are circling the stone may even have tried
to draw it a few times, but it remains stuck in the stone of fear and
traditions etc. held by the power of the beast.

Blayne

--- In Keysters@y..., "Judy Kay Reese" <judesr1@h...> wrote:
> So, what is the calibre of this sword? The calibre of the sword is
> extraordinary and how does it become such?
>
> As we all know, Truth can be used as a sword and this symbology is
> throughout all literature.
>
> In fairy tales the prince on the white horse is given a a mighty
> sword that he might slay the dragon and free the damsel in distress?
>
> This archteype is seen throughout legends, myths, and stories.
>
> How does one wield the sword from the stone?
>
> How can the Word of God be a sword? How can the word of God be an
> extraordinary weapon against evil?
>
> If Truth be a sword then the extraordinary Truth would be spoken by
> God's Voice. When the Word of God is spoken by a dark brother or one
> with evil intentions it has no power to wield an extraordinary power;
> only when the the Voice of God wields the sword does the calibre of
> the sword become extraordinary.
>
> So, to speak Truth as the Voice of God; one becomes unified in
> oneness with God and his army or band of united fellows in oneness to
> the Will of God. Then when one speaks they speak AS the Voice of God
> and this would be where the calibre of power of the Word of God
> becomes extraordinarily powerful.
>
> The stone would be the vessel from which the sword is drawn and this
> vessel is the shell of the man that is the lower bodies of the man.
> The true knight and leige of the Lord of One is born only when he can
> pull Excalibur from the stone; when he overcomes his lower bodies to
> become in contact with hi higher bodies and his true self; the image
> of the first-born son of God.

Check out Sterlings site he has compiled several links to many
technologies being developed.

http://www.remnantsaints.com/AlternativeUtilities/

Blayne

--- In Keysters@y..., "d.linen" <linen@e...> wrote:
>
>
> BambieA@a... wrote:
> >
> > Blayne writes:
> >
> > > "Over unity means to take little or no energy in to get maximum
> > energy out."
> > >
> > >
> > Thanks to both Diane and Blayne for their explanations of over unity.
> > I had
> > never heard that term before.
> >
> > Marylin Adams
>
> I read of an interesting new one (to me) the other day, Marylin but I
> couldn't find it to send to the list. It involves electromagnetics. I'll
> keep looking for it.
>
> Diane

Most excellent, Judes. Thanks.

Diane

Judy Kay Reese wrote:
>
> So, what is the calibre of this sword? The calibre of the sword is
> extraordinary and how does it become such?
>
> As we all know, Truth can be used as a sword and this symbology is
> throughout all literature.
>
> In fairy tales the prince on the white horse is given a a mighty
> sword that he might slay the dragon and free the damsel in distress?
>
> This archteype is seen throughout legends, myths, and stories.
>
> How does one wield the sword from the stone?
>
> How can the Word of God be a sword? How can the word of God be an
> extraordinary weapon against evil?
>
> If Truth be a sword then the extraordinary Truth would be spoken by
> God's Voice. When the Word of God is spoken by a dark brother or one
> with evil intentions it has no power to wield an extraordinary power;
> only when the the Voice of God wields the sword does the calibre of
> the sword become extraordinary.
>
> So, to speak Truth as the Voice of God; one becomes unified in
> oneness with God and his army or band of united fellows in oneness to
> the Will of God. Then when one speaks they speak AS the Voice of God
> and this would be where the calibre of power of the Word of God
> becomes extraordinarily powerful.
>
> The stone would be the vessel from which the sword is drawn and this
> vessel is the shell of the man that is the lower bodies of the man.
> The true knight and leige of the Lord of One is born only when he can
> pull Excalibur from the stone; when he overcomes his lower bodies to
> become in contact with hi higher bodies and his true self; the image
> of the first-born son of God.
>
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I think Blayne is right about magnets and
electromagnetism. Some sixteen years ago, I had this
strong "mental" impression to design a power
generating plant based on magnets. I actually started
the paper dfesign but lost faith in myself because I
felt I was just out of high school. Now I wish I had
continued. The impression still comes to me from time
to time. I think I will give putting it on paper a
serious thought.

Ben

--- hawkiye55 <hawkiye@...> wrote:
> Conventional technolgy requires that you have to put
> as much or more
> energy into something to get the same or lessor
> amount  out. That
> would be under unity.
>
> Over unity means to take little or no energy in to
> get maximum energy out.
>
> Example: to  to keep a car battery charged requires
> an engine eating
> lots of gas to turn an altenator to keep the battery
> charged and run
> all the electronics of the car.
>
> If you have something such as a magnetic motor the
> perperually rotates
> with no need of a fuel or electricity feed to power
> it, that would
> keep the battery charged and run electronics you
> would essentially be
> getting free energy.
>
> Blayne
>
>
> --- In Keysters@y..., BambieA@a... wrote:
> > Blayne writes:
> >
> > > "I also believe we are on the verge of other
> technologies  such as
> over
> > > unity  etc. that will soon be available to the
> consumer that are even
> > > more efficient and can be implemented free of
> the energy monopolies
> > > from individuals to commumities."
> >
> > Please excuse my lack of technological knowledge
> here, but what is
> "over
> > unity"?
> >
> > Marylin Adams
> > I support The Principles of Unification
> > http://www.unification911.org/principles.htm?
> >
> http://www.unification911.org/jsl/endorsed?number=25
> > Have you read www.freeread.com?
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>


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Not sure why - maybe my "d"(as in Voldemort - one does not want to mention
ones "you know" what for fear of making it stronger :) knows why this message
about how I am distracted when I know I'm making some progress spiritually,
hadn't clicked until today.

Thank you BIG time Mindy, once again, for timely delivered information.

I've half jokingly called this occurrence "fighting my inner demons" -
understanding it is just the one demon doesn't make it any easier.

Just a thought/question:
If the "d" is created with the help of fear and guilt, then would
recapitulating one's past experiences and forgiving oneself/others help to
weaken the "d"??

From the description given of Joe's and Joseph Smith's encounter (Mmm, makes
one wonder, doesn't it....) with their "d's" I wouldn't want to tackle an
empowered "d"!!!

Diane H

On Tuesday 05 November 2002 03:37 am, Mindy wrote:
> In case 'the dweller' is an unfamiliar term to anyone, JJ has presented
> some words on the topic.  This is only a small section of a marvelous
> post which can be found at
> http://www.thenewagesite.com/JJArchives/JJ638.html
<snip>

I know it's taken a while - but yes Assaf - and sorry Brainwise, I didn't
realise that Budda is also another way of spelling Buddha :)

On Friday 01 November 2002 09:52 am, Assaf Friedman wrote:
> Hmmm...  As I understand Diane H, after you said "brainwise is in da
> (photo) house" she followed your accent, so I took "Budda" to
> mean "But.. a...".  The capital B is only because it's the beginning
> of a sentence.
>
> Hope I'm right and this clarifies things.
>
> Love,
> Assaf
>
> --- In Keysters@y..., "iam@b..." <iam@b...> wrote:
> > The "Budda" comments confused me at first.  But then I remembered
>
> that my
>
> > sig line has a Budda quote.  Now that I am using a different quote,
>
> will
>
> > people call me Carabas?  ;)
> >
> > --
> > ~B (also known as brainwise)
> >
> > "I have always felt that violence was the last refuge of the
>
> incompetent,
>
> > and empty threats the final sanctuary of the terminally inept."
> > ~ the marquis de Carabas (NEVERWHERE)
>
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Judes wrote >>>If Truth be a sword then the extraordinary Truth would be spoken
by
God's Voice.<<<<



You have it in one Judes ;-)


adrian

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

So, what is the calibre of this sword? The calibre of the sword is
extraordinary and how does it become such?

As we all know, Truth can be used as a sword and this symbology is
throughout all literature.

In fairy tales the prince on the white horse is given a a mighty
sword that he might slay the dragon and free the damsel in distress?

This archteype is seen throughout legends, myths, and stories.

How does one wield the sword from the stone?

How can the Word of God be a sword? How can the word of God be an
extraordinary weapon against evil?

If Truth be a sword then the extraordinary Truth would be spoken by
God's Voice. When the Word of God is spoken by a dark brother or one
with evil intentions it has no power to wield an extraordinary power;
only when the the Voice of God wields the sword does the calibre of
the sword become extraordinary.

So, to speak Truth as the Voice of God; one becomes unified in
oneness with God and his army or band of united fellows in oneness to
the Will of God. Then when one speaks they speak AS the Voice of God
and this would be where the calibre of power of the Word of God
becomes extraordinarily powerful.

The stone would be the vessel from which the sword is drawn and this
vessel is the shell of the man that is the lower bodies of the man.
The true knight and leige of the Lord of One is born only when he can
pull Excalibur from the stone; when he overcomes his lower bodies to
become in contact with hi higher bodies and his true self; the image
of the first-born son of God.

in its power to prevent you from going higher. It realizes that if you
face the Angel of the Presence that your attention will make a shift
and
thus no longer feed the Dweller with the life-giving energy it needs
to
continue existence."


If you face the Angel of the Presence, and accept that Angel, does
the Dweller diminish because you knew you were good enough to be in
that Angel's Presence, so therefore you can escape the confrontation
with the Dweller?

The key phrase in preparation for the Dweller is the phrase:
"And thus I stand."

Wouldn't a better key phrase be "And thus I stand beside/with God"?
Or do you have to stand alone?

And because we have learnt about the Dweller and this illusion
between our Angel does this mean we still need to go through all that
stuff?  I guess we have an edge on this more than most people, just
by learning here about it from JJ.

AussieRuth (I will try and get to read everything in the Archives
soon hopefully!!!)

I had a psychologist friend who used to do classes in her home every week
and her patients would attend.  She only had 15 minute appointments, half
hour at the longest and then these classes.  One of the things she taught in
the classes was the concept that whenever you were ready to make a change,
the "old self" would fight to keep you in the old thought patterns.  She
mentioned that if you would hold still for about 90 seconds and not react to
the "old self" thought patterns or story it would tell, that you could then
act on your newfound knowledge and move forward.  That was twenty years ago
and I feel like it was a real gem.  Just hold firm for ninety seconds!

I wonder if each time Joe felt overcome by the Dweller when he was
practicing attrition, if the attack were about that long each time.

When I was studying Cognitive Psychology (the study of how the brain works)
I was fascinated to learn about synapses and neurons--the circuitry in our
brain when we are thinking.  There are neural pathways that form and the
more we think something the easier it is to follow that neural pathway.  It
takes time to "change our mind" because it is a literal physical electrical
pathway that we are changing.  That is why it is harder for older people to
think new thoughts--their neural pathways are like the Grand Canyon by the
time they are 70!  Those that seem younger than their years have learned to
continually create new neural pathways throughout their life.

I am currently negotiating a contract with a gentleman who is in his
seventies.  We will come to an agreement and a few hours later, he will
return to his original proposal.  At first it was driving my associates
crazy until I told them about the neural pathway thing.  It helped them
repeat over the negotiated agreement several times with patience when they
realized they were helping him create a new neural pathway.  It is the same
thing with selling something new to someone.

It is well known in the advertising world that you have to expose someone to
something six or seven times before they will "buy it."  In the days before
electronic communciations, it was much more difficult to reach people that
many times to create new ideas, but now it could happen in a week or two or
even a day.  This is why it is so important to carefully think about ideas
and products that you are exposed to over and over.  It is hypnotic almost
and could create new neural pathways in your brain without even your being
aware of it.  That is why when you go to purchase a cereal you reach for
certain brands without giving it a thought.  You were convinced via
advertising that is what you wanted and you don't even question yourself.
This is why I mute the television during commercials.  I refuse to be
programmed.  Even if it is turned down and I watch the commercials it could
program me, so I read or walk out of the room.  It is hard to avoid much of
the programming we are exposed to such as ads in magazines and newspapers
and billboards.  It takes only a flash to get in our brains.  So when I go
to purchase something I ask myself a few questions before automatically
reaching for something.  I try to keep my neurons flexible in that manner.

If you think it is just those pushing products using these methods, think
again.  It is the modus operandi of politicians the world over.  That is why
news organizations are so crucial to politics in today's world.  If people
are trying to figure out what they think about some occurence and hear
basically the same story on all networks enough times, it will create a
neural pathway that accepts what the newscasters are saying.  That is why I
love listening to BBC news or some other organization besides the standard
US sources.  It keeps my neural pathways open to "hearing."  If I only
listen to certain types of newscasts then my neural pathways become very
rigid and I will automatically reject anything I hear or see that doesn't
line up with my accepted mode of thinking. So to those who listen to Rush
Limbaugh every day and hardly anyone else, it is easy for them to accept any
information that is line with his way of seeing things and hard to accept
say, the Sierra Club's view on anything.  I find it most enlightening to
listen to opposing views to keep my neural pathways open to new ideas.

Last night my husband and I went to listen to someone speak from the John
Birch society on the United Nations.  The speaker said some things about
WWII and the Japanese.  Having studied conservative stuff in the past, I was
very aware of this conservative "party line" and didn't think much about it.
My husband, who is more liberal in his thinking pointed out some other facts
I hadn't thought of during the lecture.  It brought a new understanding and
reminded me to try and always expose myself to many different sources of
information.  (Incidentally I also think it is why my husband and I chose
each other--we are so different that we constantly are opening new pathways
in each others brains.  While it is hard sometimes, it is certainly never
boring at our household when it comes to discussing politics and religion!)

The good news is that the White Brotherhood is also familiar with these
truths and so anytime they can "sneak in" a thought or phrase it serves to
up our cosmic consciousness.  I am constantly amazed at lyrics in songs,
lines in movies, and so forth and realize that they are working.  We are
becoming more aware of the Brotherhood of man and our responsibility to each
other the world over.  The conservatives see this as the New World Order and
to be avoided in every single instance and the Liberals would probably see
this as the salvation of mankind and give up some freedoms inappropriately.
This is where The Middle Way comes in.  We need to be aware of those trying
to take away our free will, but at the same time be open to those influences
that are bringing the world together in true oneness.

Our Dweller seems to be all those neural pathways in our brain that are
based on fear of some sort all rolled into one entity.  It is like a robot
who gets it's thougts and enegy from our brains and as long as the neural
pathways are strong in that direction, the robot has a lot of energy to do
stuff.  When we quit feeding those neural paths he slowly, slowly walks
around and can't do much.  It is ultimately in our power to let his
batteries run down or to charge him up again.  I can just see it now--my
robot comes to me wielding a sword threatening to cut my head off.  If I
fear hiim he gains more energy.  If I ignore him emotionally, I watch the
life drain out of him.

To positive neurons firing in your brain today!

Susan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mindy" <burgem@...>
To: <Keysters@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 5:51 AM
Subject: RE: [Keysters] Re: God and the Dweller


> Hi Ruth,
>
> I believe you can find answers to most of these questions in the
> archives of JJ's writings.
> http://www.thenewagesite.com/JJArchives  (Thanks again, Larry!)
> At the bottom of the page is a search engine where you can put in a key
> word and find the posts that will contain answers to your questions.
> I'd post a few for you now but I'm getting ready to leave for work and
> don't have time.
>
> But in regard to your question, "So is the Word of God many words or
> just one word that we need to say to defeat our Dweller or is just
> believing the Word enough????"  I think you might find food for further
> thought in this post titled, "Standing Firm."
>
> Date: 9 Sep 2000 11:05:17 -0000
> Subject: [keys-l] Standing Firm
>
> Peter asks:
> in one of your previous posts you had mentioned that "he (Christ) faced
> and
> penetrated the sins of the world and established the link with the
> Planetary Logos which would eventually end all sin and guide mankind to
> relative perfection." As I've contemplated on this for the past several
> months, I've only found myself asking more questions:
>
> 1. I understand how one may face his personal Dweller in order to move
> forward in his spiritual progression, but how does one face somebody
> else's?
>
> JJ
> Christ did not face someone else's Dweller, but faced the Dweller for
> the
> human kingdom of which he was an integral part. In a very real way "the
> souls of men are one." Just as my mouth can speak for me and say "I am
> JJ," but is far from the whole body, even so can one person represent
> the
> human kingdom as a whole in various capacities.
>
> Peter
> How was Christ able to face the Dweller of the world?
>
> JJ
> When a disciple is ready to face his individual Dweller or even a
> greater
> Dweller of a body of which he forms a part he will not go looking for
> the
> Dweller, but the Dweller will come to him.
>
> The Dweller is composed of primitive life energies and is an actual life
> form. As with all lives it seeks with all its being to preserve its
> life.
> It is the opposite of your Solar Angel or your Higher Self. It could
> have
> been named the lower self, but the Dweller on the Threshold is a very
> accurate name because no person becomes fully aware of its existence
> until
> he reaches the threshold of higher contact. When this threshold is
> reached
> the Dweller begins to fear for its life and existence, and does
> everything
> in its power to prevent you from going higher. It realizes that if you
> face the Angel of the Presence that your attention will make a shift and
> thus no longer feed the Dweller with the life-giving energy it needs to
> continue existence.
>
> This is then the reason that the Dweller comes looking for the disciple
> when the time is right and that the struggle the pilgrim has with it is
> so
> profound. The Dweller's entire existence (as it sees it) is predicated
> on
> discouraging the seeker - and unfortunately he is often successful.
>
> Peter
> What did he do to defeat this Dweller at the garden?
>
> JJ
> He held firm in his consciousness the highest conception of the will of
> God
> of which he was aware and stood firm at that point in the will and faced
> that which he feared and did not move from it.
>
> This was illustrated in his words:
> "Not my will but thine be done."
>
> His personality self wanted to run from the experience with every fiber
> of
> its being, but the Christ, standing in the will of the Father, let his
> faith in the dominating good override any fear of destruction.
>
> An mantra that will help those who feel they may be approaching an
> experience with the Dweller was given out by Djwahl Khul through Alice
> A.
> Bailey called
> The Affirmation of the Disciple which reads:
>
> I am a point of light within a greater Light.
> I am a strand of loving energy within the stream of love divine.
> I am a point of sacrificial Fire, focused within the fiery Will of God.
> And thus I stand.
>
> I am a way by which men may achieve.
> I am a source of strength, enabling them to stand.
> I am a beam of light, shining upon their way.
> And thus I stand.
>
> And standing thus revolve
> And tread this way the ways of men,
> And know the ways of God.
> And thus I stand."
>
> The key phrase in preparation for the Dweller is the phrase:
> "And thus I stand."
>
> Standing firm and facing the Dweller us the key to victory.
>
> Peter
> By facing the world's Dweller, how was Christ able to establish a link
> for
> us with the Shamballa energy. How does this happen?
>
> JJ
> The Dweller on an individual level creates a cloud of illusion between
> the
> seeker and the Angel of the Presence. When the cloud created by the
> Dweller is dispersed then it is realized that the Angel has always been
> there. Even so it is with the world Dweller. The presence of the Ancient
> of Days and Shamballa is always with us but this fact does not seem so,
> or
> is not realized, because of the illusion created by the barriers placed
> by
> the Dweller.
>
> When Christ faced the higher Dweller and realized the illusion created
> thereby, the dispelling then of such illusion created a point where
> light
> could penetrate. That penetrating light through the veil of illusion
> established the needed link with the Highest center on the planet -
> Shamballa.
>
> Peter
> Wasn't there a link already established as part of the molecular
> hierarchy?
>
> When Christ was suffering in the Garden and near the point of death it
> is
> written that an angel came and strengthened him. This angel was the
> molecular link while Christ was on the earth. This angel was not a
> permanent resident of Shamballa, but an intermediary called a
> Nirmanakaya
> in the East. These intermediaries work with stepping down energies
> between kingdoms.
>
> When Christ faced the Dweller he bypassed the intermediary and linked
> directly with the Lord of the World. This direct link is one reason the
> molecule had more power after the crucifixion than it did beforehand.
> The
> day of Pentecost was a symbol of the direct link between heaven and
> earth.
>
> Peter
> How would this link eventually end all sin and guide mankind to relative
> perfection?
>
> Sin is merely error and there will always be error of some kind in the
> worlds of form, but every error that we have will eventually be
> dispelled
> by light and the application of that which is revealed. When this
> happens,
> a higher level of error must be corrected and mastered.
>
> Sin among humanity is corrected when light is manifest and a link with
> the
> will of God is established to enable the disciple to stand in the light.
>
> A link with Shamballa caused an increase of light pouring into the minds
> of
> humanity and as we stand firmly in that light error is revealed and
> corrected.
>
> As Xavier pointed out I have other writings in the archives expanding on
> this subject.
>
> Back to the Pendulum soon.
>
> "And if thou shouldst be cast into the pit, or into the hands of
> murderers,
> and the sentence of death passed upon thee; if thou be cast into the
> deep;
> if the billowing surge conspire against thee; if fierce winds become
> thine
> enemy; if the heavens gather blackness, and all the elements combine to
> hedge up the way; and above all, if the very jaws of hell shall gape
> open
> the mouth wide after thee, know thou, my son, that all these things
> shall
> give thee experience, and shall be for thy good."
> Revelation to Joseph Smith in Liberty Jail
>
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> All Rights Reserved
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Hi Ruth,

I believe you can find answers to most of these questions in the
archives of JJ's writings.
http://www.thenewagesite.com/JJArchives  (Thanks again, Larry!)
At the bottom of the page is a search engine where you can put in a key
word and find the posts that will contain answers to your questions.
I'd post a few for you now but I'm getting ready to leave for work and
don't have time.

But in regard to your question, "So is the Word of God many words or
just one word that we need to say to defeat our Dweller or is just
believing the Word enough????"  I think you might find food for further
thought in this post titled, "Standing Firm."

Date: 9 Sep 2000 11:05:17 -0000
Subject: [keys-l] Standing Firm

Peter asks:
in one of your previous posts you had mentioned that "he (Christ) faced
and
penetrated the sins of the world and established the link with the
Planetary Logos which would eventually end all sin and guide mankind to
relative perfection." As I've contemplated on this for the past several
months, I've only found myself asking more questions:

1. I understand how one may face his personal Dweller in order to move
forward in his spiritual progression, but how does one face somebody
else's?

JJ
Christ did not face someone else's Dweller, but faced the Dweller for
the
human kingdom of which he was an integral part. In a very real way "the
souls of men are one." Just as my mouth can speak for me and say "I am
JJ," but is far from the whole body, even so can one person represent
the
human kingdom as a whole in various capacities.

Peter
How was Christ able to face the Dweller of the world?

JJ
When a disciple is ready to face his individual Dweller or even a
greater
Dweller of a body of which he forms a part he will not go looking for
the
Dweller, but the Dweller will come to him.

The Dweller is composed of primitive life energies and is an actual life
form. As with all lives it seeks with all its being to preserve its
life.
It is the opposite of your Solar Angel or your Higher Self. It could
have
been named the lower self, but the Dweller on the Threshold is a very
accurate name because no person becomes fully aware of its existence
until
he reaches the threshold of higher contact. When this threshold is
reached
the Dweller begins to fear for its life and existence, and does
everything
in its power to prevent you from going higher. It realizes that if you
face the Angel of the Presence that your attention will make a shift and
thus no longer feed the Dweller with the life-giving energy it needs to
continue existence.

This is then the reason that the Dweller comes looking for the disciple
when the time is right and that the struggle the pilgrim has with it is
so
profound. The Dweller's entire existence (as it sees it) is predicated
on
discouraging the seeker - and unfortunately he is often successful.

Peter
What did he do to defeat this Dweller at the garden?

JJ
He held firm in his consciousness the highest conception of the will of
God
of which he was aware and stood firm at that point in the will and faced
that which he feared and did not move from it.

This was illustrated in his words:
"Not my will but thine be done."

His personality self wanted to run from the experience with every fiber
of
its being, but the Christ, standing in the will of the Father, let his
faith in the dominating good override any fear of destruction.

An mantra that will help those who feel they may be approaching an
experience with the Dweller was given out by Djwahl Khul through Alice
A.
Bailey called
The Affirmation of the Disciple which reads:

I am a point of light within a greater Light.
I am a strand of loving energy within the stream of love divine.
I am a point of sacrificial Fire, focused within the fiery Will of God.
And thus I stand.

I am a way by which men may achieve.
I am a source of strength, enabling them to stand.
I am a beam of light, shining upon their way.
And thus I stand.

And standing thus revolve
And tread this way the ways of men,
And know the ways of God.
And thus I stand."

The key phrase in preparation for the Dweller is the phrase:
"And thus I stand."

Standing firm and facing the Dweller us the key to victory.

Peter
By facing the world's Dweller, how was Christ able to establish a link
for
us with the Shamballa energy. How does this happen?

JJ
The Dweller on an individual level creates a cloud of illusion between
the
seeker and the Angel of the Presence. When the cloud created by the
Dweller is dispersed then it is realized that the Angel has always been
there. Even so it is with the world Dweller. The presence of the Ancient
of Days and Shamballa is always with us but this fact does not seem so,
or
is not realized, because of the illusion created by the barriers placed
by
the Dweller.

When Christ faced the higher Dweller and realized the illusion created
thereby, the dispelling then of such illusion created a point where
light
could penetrate. That penetrating light through the veil of illusion
established the needed link with the Highest center on the planet -
Shamballa.

Peter
Wasn't there a link already established as part of the molecular
hierarchy?

When Christ was suffering in the Garden and near the point of death it
is
written that an angel came and strengthened him. This angel was the
molecular link while Christ was on the earth. This angel was not a
permanent resident of Shamballa, but an intermediary called a
Nirmanakaya
in the East. These intermediaries work with stepping down energies
between kingdoms.

When Christ faced the Dweller he bypassed the intermediary and linked
directly with the Lord of the World. This direct link is one reason the
molecule had more power after the crucifixion than it did beforehand.
The
day of Pentecost was a symbol of the direct link between heaven and
earth.

Peter
How would this link eventually end all sin and guide mankind to relative
perfection?

Sin is merely error and there will always be error of some kind in the
worlds of form, but every error that we have will eventually be
dispelled
by light and the application of that which is revealed. When this
happens,
a higher level of error must be corrected and mastered.

Sin among humanity is corrected when light is manifest and a link with
the
will of God is established to enable the disciple to stand in the light.

A link with Shamballa caused an increase of light pouring into the minds
of
humanity and as we stand firmly in that light error is revealed and
corrected.

As Xavier pointed out I have other writings in the archives expanding on
this subject.

Back to the Pendulum soon.

"And if thou shouldst be cast into the pit, or into the hands of
murderers,
and the sentence of death passed upon thee; if thou be cast into the
deep;
if the billowing surge conspire against thee; if fierce winds become
thine
enemy; if the heavens gather blackness, and all the elements combine to
hedge up the way; and above all, if the very jaws of hell shall gape
open
the mouth wide after thee, know thou, my son, that all these things
shall
give thee experience, and shall be for thy good."
Revelation to Joseph Smith in Liberty Jail

Copyright 2000 By J.J. Dewey
All Rights Reserved

BambieA@... wrote:
>
> Blayne writes:
>
> > "Over unity means to take little or no energy in to get maximum
> energy out."
> >
> >
> Thanks to both Diane and Blayne for their explanations of over unity.
> I had
> never heard that term before.
>
> Marylin Adams

I read of an interesting new one (to me) the other day, Marylin but I
couldn't find it to send to the list. It involves electromagnetics. I'll
keep looking for it.

Diane

I looked up Word of God on the net to see if I could cheat a little at what it
could mean.  I thought this was an interesting article:

Believing or not believing the Word of God makes a difference. Our attitude
toward Scripture is a vital key that releases the power of the Lord in our life.
God didn't give us so many pages of his own words just because he wanted to be a
famous author; he gave us Scripture because it contains life; it tells us how to
live and what to avoid; it even tells us what to do if we're in the wrong
position and doing the wrong thing. It gives us straightforward, solid
information about God's plans. But he can't carry out his plans through us and
in us if we don't agree with them; and we're not going to agree with them if we
don't believe what the Lord says in Scripture, only then can we walk in his
perfect will for our lives.
Let's take an example from everyday life. Suppose one day we find ourselves
grumbling and feeling depressed because it seems that nothing in our day went
well for us. We were involved in a car accident, our insurance agent was out of
town on vacation, the operator cut us off during an important long-distance
business conversation, and our boss reprimanded us for coming in late after
lunch. Then suppose we remember a passage from Romans that says, "We know that
in everything God works for good with those who love him, who are called
according to his purpose" (Rom. 8:28).
In our situation we are confronted with the Word of God in Scripture. We can
say, "I'm going to turn my face to the wall and pout; I'm going to rip that page
out of my Bible and burn it," or we can do as Josiah did and say, "That is a
true word of God--God has said it, I believe it, that settles it: where do I go
from here?"
Even when we learn to rejoice in all circumstances, the Lord doesn't want us to
stop there. There are innumerable major categories in Scriptures that would be a
further confrontation for us; through these words of Scripture, God will lead us
beyond what we would normally want to believe, beyond what we could imagine or
hope for. The Lord's pattern for our life is in the Word of God and we have to
respond to it: words about obedience to God that we find in Exodus 19 or John
14, or instructions about husband and wife, or parent and child relationships
that we find in Ephesians five. For these words of Scripture to really bring us
life we should approach them saying, "Lord, I'm committed to you and therefore I
submit to your word in Scripture. I want to do what you say."
When we hear the Lord's piercing word to us we should not, of course, go running
off wildly. Once we have decided to submit to his word in Scripture, we may need
to look closely and sensibly at the word with our brothers and sisters and with
the Lord and work out what it means for our lives right now. But that comes
later. First we must decide to take it seriously. Let's decide today to believe,
accept, and submit to what God says in Scripture; he will give us the strength
and energy to carry out that decision.


This article originally appeared in "New Covenant Magazine," December, 1974.

"So is the Word of God many words or just one word that we need to say to defeat
our Dweller or is just believing the Word enough????"

AussieRuth


Keep your sight on the light.


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It was interesting to read about the Dweller just now on the keys list as I was
just about to ask whether the Dweller only comes back to you as an entity or
whether the Dweller visits you through someone else's body, so you could meet it
in a person.  If you have overcome the fear of dying, then surely it couldnt be
that hard to overcome a Dweller?  I have lived in pain for 18 years, is that
karma or would that be part of the Dweller?    Can the Dweller attack you in the
dream world?  I have been attacked many times in my sleep over the years,  I
could never see exactly what it was, but I felt the overwhelming power of it.

Also if God is in everyone, then when the time comes for the people of earth to
be segregated to the left or right of Him, then what happens to those souls on
the wrong side?  Do they stay on earth still or are they banished to the astral
level or sent to another planet?  Do the non-believers or non-soul contact or
dark brothers go somewhere else?

": "Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose hope is the Lord. He is
like a tree planted beside waters, that stretches out its roots to the stream.
It fears not the heat when it comes, its leaves stay green. In the year of 
drought it shows no distress, but still bears fruit" (Jer. 17:7-9). "

"As Jesus explained, "Those sown on rocky ground are people who on listening to
the word accept it joyfully at the outset. Being rootless, they last only a
while. When some pressure or persecution overtakes them because of the word,
they falter" (Mark 4:16-17). Thus we see how important it is that we strike root
deep in the Lord, being anchored firmly in faith, and sustained by our
fellowship with him. "

"One of the most effective ways we can be rooted in Christ is to immerse
ourselves in his word"

AussieRuth (Excalibur was anchored in the stone)


Keep your sight on the light.


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Blayne writes:

> "Over unity means to take little or no energy in to get maximum energy out."
>
>
Thanks to both Diane and Blayne for their explanations of over unity.  I had
never heard that term before.

Marylin Adams
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In a message dated 11/5/02 3:37:27 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Keysters@yahoogroups.com writes:

> JJ wrote:
> The last few days were quite a bit easier to handle as I realized its
> power was decreasing; but the final moment of release was so natural,
> I seemed to have missed it.
>
> Judes:
> I wonder if this is how a butterfly feels when he sheds his cocoon
> and the lifeless dead shell that he has been breaking out of finally
> falls away?
>
Marylin:
WOW Judes, that is quite an analogy.  And then even a butterfly runs into
problems during it's short life.

Marylin Adams
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http://www.unification911.org/principles.htm?
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JJ writes:

> "Sitting in my chair staring at the computer screen, was none other
> than Philo, Brother Philo as he liked to be called."
>
>
Ah, yes, drama.  Okay, my imagination is going again. (danger ahead LOL)

I have been wondering when Philo would show up again.  But in my thoughts
comes this one little thought, from way back in the darkness, that we all
have a "Philo" who sticks his ugly head up every now and then.  Like "I
Am...", he too has many names for he is legion.  I feel it's important to
study rather than just read these chapters.  One day we will each need to
know how to find and use Excalibur.

Hooray for Excalibur.

Marylin Adams
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http://www.unification911.org/principles.htm?
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Conventional technolgy requires that you have to put as much or more
energy into something to get the same or lessor amount  out. That
would be under unity.

Over unity means to take little or no energy in to get maximum energy out.

Example: to  to keep a car battery charged requires an engine eating
lots of gas to turn an altenator to keep the battery charged and run
all the electronics of the car.

If you have something such as a magnetic motor the perperually rotates
with no need of a fuel or electricity feed to power it, that would
keep the battery charged and run electronics you would essentially be
getting free energy.

Blayne


--- In Keysters@y..., BambieA@a... wrote:
> Blayne writes:
>
> > "I also believe we are on the verge of other technologies  such as
over
> > unity  etc. that will soon be available to the consumer that are even
> > more efficient and can be implemented free of the energy monopolies
> > from individuals to commumities."
>
> Please excuse my lack of technological knowledge here, but what is
"over
> unity"?
>
> Marylin Adams
> I support The Principles of Unification
> http://www.unification911.org/principles.htm?
> http://www.unification911.org/jsl/endorsed?number=25
> Have you read www.freeread.com?
>
>
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In case 'the dweller' is an unfamiliar term to anyone, JJ has presented
some words on the topic.  This is only a small section of a marvelous
post which can be found at
http://www.thenewagesite.com/JJArchives/JJ638.html

Our individual Dweller is a powerful thought form which is created by
the negative energy of all of our fears, mistakes, "sins" guilt and
illusions from all of our past lives rolled into one bundle. The
disciple has numerous partial contacts with the Dweller before he comes
face to face with it.

We talked earlier about when a person makes a step forward in his
spiritual progression that within several days there seems to be a
strong negative force pulling him away from the Path. Many see this as a
direct work of the devil, but in reality it is our Dweller coming back
to haunt us.

The Dweller is actually a low life form that is fighting for its life
and as such will do everything within its power to survive. Fear is its
main weapon, for when the disciple overcomes his fears and faces the
Dweller, it begins to "die" and go back to its source.

The disciple must face the Dweller before the third initiation of
transfiguration. Before Jesus was transfigured he had to face his
Dweller. This happened when he went into the wilderness and faced the
three famous temptations.

The Apostle Paul faced his Dweller and was temporarily blinded by it.

Some have had to face the Dweller over a long period of time.

Moses received a partial revelation of God In Egypt. This was what
converted him to identify with the Hebrews, for he did not fully believe
it until it was revealed to him.

Later he fled Egypt and spent forty years herding sheep gaining the
courage to face his Dweller. When he finally did face it he then crossed
the threshold and talked with God.

Joseph Smith had an interesting encounter with the Dweller:

"After I had retired to the place where I had previously designed to go,
having looked around me and finding myself alone, I kneeled down and
began to offer up the desires of my heart to God. I had scarcely done
so, when immediately I was seized upon by some power which entirely
overcame me, and had such an astonishing influence over me as to bind my
tongue so that I could not speak. Thick darkness gathered around me, and
it seemed to me for a time as if I were doomed to sudden destruction.

"But, exerting all my powers to call upon God to deliver me out of the
power of this enemy which had seized upon me, and at the very moment
when I was ready to sink into despair and abandon myself to
destruction--not to some imaginary ruin, but to the power of some actual
being from the unseen world, who had such marvelous power as I had never
before felt in any being--just at this moment of great alarm, I saw a
pillar of light exactly over my head, above the brightness of the sun,
which descended gradually until it fell upon me."

Joseph Smith was quite fortunate to have a single intense encounter with
the Dweller as he entered into the Presence.

Even though many disciples mistake the Dweller for the Dark Brothers it
is really a presence of our own creations. Nevertheless, when the
disciple approaches the transfiguration initiation it will get the
attention of the Dark Ones and in this case will do what they can to
assist the Dweller.

Now facing our individual Dweller is a terrifying experience beyond the
imagination of most seekers. Imagine what it was like for Christ who had
to face the Dweller for all humanity in order to establish a link for us
with the Shamballa energy. This Dweller he faced was the combination of
all negative energies created by mankind since the first man. Even
though it was written that he took upon himself the sins of the world,
it may be more accurately stated that he faced and penetrated the sins
of the world and established the link with the Planetary Logos which
would eventually end all sin and guide mankind to relative perfection.

As we explained earlier, there were two entities involved in the mission
of Jesus. The first was the man Jesus who was Joshua in a past life. The
second was the Christ himself who entered and shared the body of Jesus
after his baptism. The Christ was the same as he who was Melchizedek.

Jesus suffered great pain because of the shattering of the molecule
through Judas, and the Christ suffered through the facing of the
Dweller. Both of these experiences created such anguish for the body of
Jesus that an angel had to appear and strengthen him or he would have
died right there.

Now the interesting thing is that Jesus going to the cross was the
easiest part. The worst was over and some sense of relief was held. In
fact a fragment of the Gospel of Peter tells us that Jesus actually
laughed on the cross.

He had power to cancel out the pain if he so desired. Perhaps he was
amused that his disciples thought this was the tough part. Little did
they know.

JJ wrote:
The last few days were quite a bit easier to handle as I realized its
power was decreasing; but the final moment of release was so natural,
I seemed to have missed it.

Judes:
I wonder if this is how a butterfly feels when he sheds his cocoon
and the lifeless dead shell that he has been breaking out of finally
falls away?

"Sitting in my chair staring at the computer screen, was none other
than Philo, Brother Philo as he liked to be called."

So how long do we have to wait for chapter seventeen? :)

Hope this creep Philo gets it in the end. This is good drama by the
way. And I really like it now that the action is starting to pick up
(my wife would call that a "typical guy response"). :)

lk

Technology - my area:)
I worked in the nuclear power industry for 6 years.
I agree with JJ.

Another option Solar Power

If equal government support was given to solar power,
it would be cheaper than Nuclear, coal, gas, etc.
Today, solar power is on the threshold of cost parity
to utility generated power.

Only the arrogance of man allows him to believe, we
are impacting nature to the extent the
environmentalist would have you believe.

L A's smog problem per-dates the industrial
revolution.
Since when will a 4'c temp rise melt ice at -70'c?
Since when well melting floating ice rise the level of
water? (north pole has half the ICE in the world)
Since when will global warming make it colder? but
still melt the ice?
...
Of course I have data to back up everything I have
said:)

This subject is OT for the Keys, but did not label it
as it is a reply to JJ's.

Scott.

--- J J Dewey <jjd@...> wrote:
> In alignment with Chapter 15 I found the following
> news story:
> 'Only technology revolution can save the Earth'
>
> By Charles Arthur, Technology Editor
>
> 01 November 2002
>
> Diplomacy has failed - meaning that only a
> revolutionary advanced
> technology will save the Earth from relentless
> global warming driven by
> greenhouse gas emissions, scientists warned
> yesterday.
>
> Avoiding a catastrophic effect on climate from the
> burning of fossil fuels
> would require political will, international
> cooperation and huge resources,
> said the team from a group of American universities.
> But "no amount of
> regulation" could solve the problem, they said.
>
> Instead it would need dramatic leaps in technology,
> such as working fusion
> reactors, solar panels the size of Manhattan
> floating in space, and a
> "global grid" of superconducting power transmission
> lines to distribute
> electricity without loss around the world.
>
> Even short-term "defensive" measures - such as
> removing carbon dioxide from
> the atmosphere and burying it in underground
> reservoirs, or filling the
> upper atmosphere with reflective molecules, or
> building a 1,250-mile-wide
> mirror in space to divert some of the sun's rays -
> remain far beyond our
> capability, said Dr Martin Hoffert, professor of
> physics at New York
> University.
>
> The researchers reported their findings in the
> journal Science, calculating
> that the world's primary power requirements could
> triple in the next 50
> years.Models indicated the Earth's temperature could
> climb by up to 4.5C
> over the next century - a temperature change equal
> to that of the global
> cooling which caused the last Ice Age.
>
> Source:
>
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/environment/story.jsp?story=347796
>
>
> JJ Comment
> Actually the technology we need is already here as
> put forth in my nuclear
> solution series at:
> http://www.freeread.com/Nuclear/index.html
>
>
>
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>
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I know it's taken a while - but yes Assaf - and sorry Brainwise, I didn't
realise that Budda is also another way of spelling Buddha :)

On Friday 01 November 2002 09:52 am, Assaf Friedman wrote:
> Hmmm...  As I understand Diane H, after you said "brainwise is in da
> (photo) house" she followed your accent, so I took "Budda" to
> mean "But.. a...".  The capital B is only because it's the beginning
> of a sentence.
>
> Hope I'm right and this clarifies things.
>
> Love,
> Assaf
>
> --- In Keysters@y..., "iam@b..." <iam@b...> wrote:
> > The "Budda" comments confused me at first.  But then I remembered
>
> that my
>
> > sig line has a Budda quote.  Now that I am using a different quote,
>
> will
>
> > people call me Carabas?  ;)
> >
> > --
> > ~B (also known as brainwise)
> >
> > "I have always felt that violence was the last refuge of the
>
> incompetent,
>
> > and empty threats the final sanctuary of the terminally inept."
> > ~ the marquis de Carabas (NEVERWHERE)
>
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BambieA@... wrote:
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> Blayne writes:
>
> > "I also believe we are on the verge of other technologies  such as
> over
> > unity  etc. that will soon be available to the consumer that are
> even
> > more efficient and can be implemented free of the energy monopolies
> > from individuals to commumities."
>
> Please excuse my lack of technological knowledge here, but what is
> "over
> unity"?

You might know of it better as 'free energy' or nearly so.

Diane

Blayne writes:

> "I also believe we are on the verge of other technologies  such as over
> unity  etc. that will soon be available to the consumer that are even
> more efficient and can be implemented free of the energy monopolies
> from individuals to commumities."

Please excuse my lack of technological knowledge here, but what is "over
unity"?

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Good Article. I think this sort of thing could apply to most any faith
or discipline. Insert Baptist, New Age, Wicca, or Methodist etc.

I think it is good sign of things changing, more and more people are
seeking truth from where ever it is obtained and are becoming more
open to other perspectives not of their tradtions.

Perhaps we are witnessing the beginnings of the "Great Synthesis" what
do you think JJ? ;-)

Blayne

--- In Keysters@y..., "Sterling D. Allan" <sterlingda@g...> wrote:
> I thought the keysters you would appreciate this:
>
>
> Sterling's Preface: The doctrinal "Famine" addressed in this article is
> produced by the viscious cycle of leaders not being able to say
anything too
> gritty for newcomer members; and members are instructed not to accept
> anything except it come from the leaders; hence they are left with
endless
> rehashing of ever watered down tripe.
>
> Whatever happened to "would God that ALL the Lord's people were
prophets"?
>
> LDS 'Double Dippers' Hungry
>
> http://www.sltrib.com/2002/nov/11022002/saturday/12782.htm
>
>       LDS 'Double Dippers' Hungry
>      Saturday, November 2, 2002
>
>
>       BY PEGGY FLETCHER STACK
>       THE SALT LAKE TRIBUNE
>
>          Some faithful Mormons still hunger for something to supplement
> their faith, something the church does not give them. So they become
deeply
> involved in feminism or fundamentalism, divining or dancing, gay
causes or
> Democratic campaigning.
>           Social anthropologist Janet Bennion of Utah Valley State
College
> calls these folks "double dippers," and said they are an important
subset of
> The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
>           These Mormons may see no conflict between attending a
Friday night
> sweat lodge or a Saturday ACLU banquet and then passing the sacrament or
> discussing doctrine with a roomful of Republicans at their LDS
services on
> Sundays, Bennion said in a paper presented Friday at the annual
meetings of
> the Society for the Scientific Study of Religion.
>           "Being Indian and Mormon means that you believe in Christ
as an
> equal brother who is present in the sweat lodge, who smokes tobacco in
> prayer with you to bless the sunrise and close out the day at sunset,"
> Bennion said.
>           Tongan and Hawaiian families may have been attracted to
the church
> because of its emphasis on large, extended families and tradition of
charity
> and gift-giving. Yet these Pacific Islanders have their own version of
> Mormonism, which often includes the kava drinking that links them to
their
> ancestors and the promise of better days to come.
>           New Age Mormons often use nutrition and herbalism as a
base for
> living, healing, and spirituality. Others use pendulum and crystals to
> discern whether there is illness.
>           In Bennion's 1996-97 study of the Allred polygamist clan, she
> found that all those who joined the fundamentalist group were once
Mormon.
>           Men "double-dipped" into fundamentalism "to restore their
> ideological views of truth and their political status in the
community," she
> said. "They felt they had no calling or place in the large [Mormon]
> mainstream and wanted to build their own family kingdoms."
>           Mormon women were attracted to fundamentalism for
"socioeconomic
> reasons. They longed for association in a group where many women
could work
> hard together in building the kingdom, raising their children and
cutting
> expenses," she said.
>           Those who openly adopt a polygamist lifestyle, however,
will be
> excommunicated from the LDS Church.
>           Other seekers can become immersed in political organizations,
> which can be nearly as consuming as church activities, Bennion said.
>           Whatever their secondary involvement, these double dippers are
> motivated by a sense of deprivation: they are left hungry by their
Mormon
> faith and seek to supplement their "diet" with other food, she
concluded.
>           Whether it is in an ethnic group, an intellectual book
group or a
> fundamentalist enclave, Bennion said, these seekers will continue to
add to
> their Mormon experience until they have "the spiritual, economic,
and social
> food they need to sustain themselves."

--- In Keysters@y..., J J Dewey <jjd@r...> wrote:
I was going to add also there is technology already here now people
are actually using  such as solar, wind, etc. that do not pollute and
has the added benefit of freeing them from energy monopolies.

I also believe we are on the verge of other technologies  such as over
unity  etc. that will soon be available to the consumer that are even
more efficient and can be implemented free of the energy monopolies
from individuals to commumities.

I know Sterling is working extra hard to bring some of these to market.

Blayne

>
> JJ Comment
> Actually the technology we need is already here as put forth in my
nuclear
> solution series at:
> http://www.freeread.com/Nuclear/index.html
>
>
>
> Copyright 2002 by J J Dewey
>
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> to obtain the ashes.
>
>   - Chinese Proverb