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Re: [JustPeaceUK] Re: JC: Labour peer hosts anti-Jewish speaker at the House of Lords

I think the approach should come from a broad range of people, so Shamir
cannot muddy the waters by claiming it is 'the jews' who are after him. The
fact is that the zionists have been 'crying wolf' over antisemitism for so
long that some people who have not read his material will be vulnerable to
the argument that attacks on him are simply a reprise of the old zionist
chorus.

stephen marks


> From: orna neumann <ornaneumann@...>
> Reply-To: JustPeaceUK@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:37:04 +0100 (BST)
> To: JustPeaceUK@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [JustPeaceUK] Re: JC: Labour peer hosts anti-Jewish speaker at
> the House of Lords
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> Roland I see no difference between progressive political objective and
> denunciation of hatered campaigns of any kind.
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> I think the more important thing is to find someone, who is willing to write
> to Affif, to the Arab Media Watch and to the PSC. Would you like to do that?
> or else as usual it will fall on Deborah?!
>
> Or may Richard would be willing to write on behalf of JFJP?
> Thanks Orna
> Roland Rance <lists@...> wrote:
>
> The point about Shamir is not only that he is anti-Jewish (which he is); but
> that he is positively harmful to the Palestinian sttruggle, and to any
> aspiration for coexistence in the Middle East. His "solution" appears to be
> an alliance between Palestinians and fascism, to bring about a conversion of
> the Israeli Jews to Christianity. And no, I'm not making this up or
> exaggerating; it's there explicitly in his writings.
>
> So we should not ask people like Afif and PSC to denounce Shamir because of
> his anti-Jewish rantings; we should insist that they join us in rejecting
> his whole approach as an obstacle to any progressive political strategy.
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> Roland
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Top story Jewish Chronicle web edition ... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Labour peer hosts anti-Jewish speaker at the House of Lords 07/04/2005 By Mark Scodie THE LABOUR...
Brian Robinson
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Apr 7, 2005
11:36 pm

The most interesting thing about this report is Lord Ahmed's remark that "he had warned Mr Shamir before he spoke not to make wider comments about Jews"; ...
Roland Rance
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Apr 8, 2005
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From what I've gathered, Shamir was invited to Britain to publicise a book, and as so often happens, whoever arranged this used someone in in Parliament -in...
shlepperbinadam
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Apr 8, 2005
8:51 am

... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Which doesn't quite square with his subsequent quoted comments (if accurate) ... I think he must reply to the Times article, if only to ...
brian663977
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Apr 8, 2005
9:49 am

The link to Pollard's Times article is: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1072-1557932,00.html ... <muzhik42@a...>...
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Apr 8, 2005
10:15 am

Two points: - First, I hold no brief for Lord Ahmed either as a member of the House of Lords or a Blairite, and I know next to nothing about his record ...
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Apr 8, 2005
12:49 pm

Charles, Iike you I come across quite a few people that sware by Shamir, and Paul isn't the only one: about a week ago I attended the Brighton and Hove PSC...
orna neumann
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Apr 9, 2005
10:04 pm

The point about Shamir is not only that he is anti-Jewish (which he is); but that he is positively harmful to the Palestinian sttruggle, and to any aspiration...
Roland Rance
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Apr 9, 2005
10:37 pm

Roland I see no difference between progressive political objective and denunciation of hatered campaigns of any kind. I think the more important thing is to...
orna neumann
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Apr 10, 2005
6:37 am

I think the approach should come from a broad range of people, so Shamir cannot muddy the waters by claiming it is 'the jews' who are after him. The fact is...
Stephen Marks
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Apr 10, 2005
10:21 am

I think that, given Shamir's attack on me as "a foremost agent of Judaic influence", I might not be thre best person to send such a letter; it would sound too...
Roland Rance
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Apr 10, 2005
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