Thank you for joining this group. Hopefully, in being specific about this one, very important verse of the Bible, we can all benefit from the research and...
Hello all, and thanks for starting up this group! I am looking forward to reading the discussions here and possibly participate in some. The reason I am...
<Bill> Until recently I saw John 1:1 as referring to Sophia as "a god". More recently I see it thus: "the message was [the exegesis of] God" Though I am not...
Hello, Bill! It is true, as you say, that the rendering "the Logos was God [Himself]" is an inaccurate rendering. John 1:1 mentions two persons, "hO QEOS",...
The first-born Word who was "God" was next to "the God" (his Creator) in beginning ... [Joe] ... [Shmuel] I understand the first part of the gospel of John...
... [Mike] ... [Shmuel] ?? No, of course it means what it says. I'm saying we contrast the anointed human "Lord" or "King" with his Creator, the ultimate...
... [Shmuel] No, the Word, the first-born of creation, who was called "God" became flesh; the God Who the Word was next to in beginning did *not* become...
I thought I might give some points for consideration. EN ARCHEE EEN HO LOGOS KAI HO LOGOS EEN PROS IN BEGINNING WAS THE WORD, AND THE WORD WAS TOWARD 1722 0746...
... The beauty of "truth" is that it agrees with all scripture. Your statement that "God became flesh" runs headlong into a long list of scriptures such as:...
Awsome info. For well over 1,500 years before Jesus 'Christ' (Christ means 'one who is annointed' or 'one who has been specially chosen' or 'annointed one')...
<David> ... some 'pagan' called Constantine,(who by the way never got baptised till he was on his death bed), that an issue was raised about the identity of...
The very fact that 'a beginning' is the very part of the description concerning Gods Son, indicates that Christ had a beginning. Remember Col 1:15. ... be the ...
A 1998 publication from England, "The Twenty-first Century New Testament" by Vivian Capel surprised scholars by translating John 1:1 with the words "a god"...
MM Alan As am I actually. There's nothing actually surprising about the translation when you realise that "God"and "a God" would be written exactly the same as...
... translation ... same as ... understanding. ... yourself ... Penn, Yes, in Koine Greek there was no indefinite article, such as our "a." Agape, Alan....
Salàm HoDony It's always good to learn something new. Thanx for being among those who brought a new thing to me ;) I'm one of those who don't see any one way...
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Alan Please can you confirm something because I am having trouble following your train of thought here. Do you believe the reading should be "God" or "a god"? ...
Jeff, I too was suprised that that web site would have only referred to this new work and that 'scholar's were suprised' without mentioning which "scholar's"...
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... referred ... the ... years (according to macgregorministries.org) ... for "Logos" or "Word"? Do you think that is more accurate? Nancy, Although I have...
... It did seem that you are saying this when you said, =====QUOTE===== But, the fact that "ho" does not appear with the second use of "theos" is not the only...
... referred to this new work and that 'scholar's were suprised' ... Actually Jeff, i believe Nancy41 was replying to my message which part above she did not...
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Thank you, Penndragon, for your thought and for sharing Dionysius with me. In other words, "The Tau explained, is not the eternal Tau." I only jostle with...
... Not sure what you are saying here??? ... Of course. But, can the context be discussed in a group strictly dealing with John 1:1 and various reading? I...
