Dear Barbara,

LINDE is one of the most abundant names in my Keidan surname index.
There are 39 LINDE birth records among the 36 years of births that
have been translated to date. It was obviously a very large family
in Keidan.

I won't have any information about the fate of those members of the
LINDE family who were lost or trapped in the Holocaust because the
Keidan vital records we have go only through 1914 (starting in
1822).

Give me just a little time to work on this and I will get back to
you. I cannot make any guarantees, but I hope I can help.

Best wishes,

Olga Zabludoff




--- In JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com, "Barbera Levin" <barlev@b...>
wrote:
>
> Dear Olga
>
> Thank you so much for your email. I will visit the various
websites but
> meanwhile I am experiencing so much frustration. We visited Yad
Vashem in
> Jerusalem in November and were unable to find details of my
father's family
> who were all killed in the Holocaust. I do have pictures of many
of them but
> do not know their married names. However my grandparents were:
>
> Sara and Baruch Linde(he died young before the war)
> Their daughters(my father's sisters), Shayna, Esther,Laya and his
brother
> whose name I can't remember.
>
> They lived in Keidan and my father's name was Motel(Max)or
Mordechai as he
> was known in South Africa to where he emigrated to .in 1927. I
know that my
> father studied at the university in Kovno(Kaunas)
>
> Do you have any information? At Yad Vashem they had a record of
Sara Linde
> but she was the wife of Abraham perhaps a relation but not my
grandparents.
>
> I would be grateful for any help.
>
> Regards
> Barbara Levin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of ozabludoff
> Sent: 09 January 2006 20:48
> To: JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [JewishKeidan] Keidan Vital Records Project Update
>
> Another set of translated Keidan birth records has been
distributed
> to qualified contributors to the Keidan Vital Records translation
> project, a LitvakSIG program. This marks the completion of thirty-
> six years of birth records totaling more than 3,000 documents. The
> translations are continuing at a steady, predictable pace, with
all
> indications that the remaining fourteen years of records will be
> completed and distributed by April, bringing the total number of
> birth records to 4,500. We will then move on to Phase 2 of the
> project, the marriage records.
>
> Phase 1 will have been completed in less than a year from the
start
> date. The Keidan VRI Project has an established track record.
> Donations are no longer a "risk";  they are an investment. Your
> contributions will not lie in a stagnant fund. They are put to
work
> and they yield returns. Please invest so that we can complete the
> entire project--the translation of  some 15,000 Keidan vital
records.
>
> This effort is not solely about the translation of records. It is
> about awakening a half-century of our ancestors' lives in Keidan.
We
> can never know enough about them, but we can begin to imagine
their
> marriages, picture their children and mourn their deaths. We
> discover their cousins, their neighbors, their rabbis; we enter
the
> 19th century Jewish community of Keidan.
>
> I have compiled a surname index based on the translated records to
> date. Anyone who wishes to know whether his or her families are
> represented in the records is welcome to contact me.
>
> For details about the project please visit the website of the
> LitvakSIG Vital Records Indexing Project:
> http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeol99x/
>
> Olga Zabludoff
> Keidan Coordinator
> oz@i...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>

Dear Barbara,

I have found the birth records of your father, his brother and their
four sisters. The grandparents' records may appear in the earlier
birth records now being translated.

Olga Zabludoff




--- In JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com, "Barbera Levin" <barlev@b...>
wrote:
>
> Dear Olga
>
> Thank you so much for your email. I will visit the various
websites but
> meanwhile I am experiencing so much frustration. We visited Yad
Vashem in
> Jerusalem in November and were unable to find details of my
father's family
> who were all killed in the Holocaust. I do have pictures of many
of them but
> do not know their married names. However my grandparents were:
>
> Sara and Baruch Linde(he died young before the war)
> Their daughters(my father's sisters), Shayna, Esther,Laya and his
brother
> whose name I can't remember.
>
> They lived in Keidan and my father's name was Motel(Max)or
Mordechai as he
> was known in South Africa to where he emigrated to .in 1927. I
know that my
> father studied at the university in Kovno(Kaunas)
>
> Do you have any information? At Yad Vashem they had a record of
Sara Linde
> but she was the wife of Abraham perhaps a relation but not my
grandparents.
>
> I would be grateful for any help.
>
> Regards
> Barbara Levin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of ozabludoff
> Sent: 09 January 2006 20:48
> To: JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [JewishKeidan] Keidan Vital Records Project Update
>
> Another set of translated Keidan birth records has been
distributed
> to qualified contributors to the Keidan Vital Records translation
> project, a LitvakSIG program. This marks the completion of thirty-
> six years of birth records totaling more than 3,000 documents. The
> translations are continuing at a steady, predictable pace, with
all
> indications that the remaining fourteen years of records will be
> completed and distributed by April, bringing the total number of
> birth records to 4,500. We will then move on to Phase 2 of the
> project, the marriage records.
>
> Phase 1 will have been completed in less than a year from the
start
> date. The Keidan VRI Project has an established track record.
> Donations are no longer a "risk";  they are an investment. Your
> contributions will not lie in a stagnant fund. They are put to
work
> and they yield returns. Please invest so that we can complete the
> entire project--the translation of  some 15,000 Keidan vital
records.
>
> This effort is not solely about the translation of records. It is
> about awakening a half-century of our ancestors' lives in Keidan.
We
> can never know enough about them, but we can begin to imagine
their
> marriages, picture their children and mourn their deaths. We
> discover their cousins, their neighbors, their rabbis; we enter
the
> 19th century Jewish community of Keidan.
>
> I have compiled a surname index based on the translated records to
> date. Anyone who wishes to know whether his or her families are
> represented in the records is welcome to contact me.
>
> For details about the project please visit the website of the
> LitvakSIG Vital Records Indexing Project:
> http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeol99x/
>
> Olga Zabludoff
> Keidan Coordinator
> oz@i...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>

Dear Olga

How absolutely wonderful and thank you so much. I cannot believe how quickly
you have responded. I will respond to your other email which provides me
with the required address.

Thanks again
Barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com [mailto:JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of ozabludoff
Sent: 17 January 2006 15:29
To: JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [JewishKeidan] Re: Keidan Vital Records Project Update

Dear Barbara,

I have found the birth records of your father, his brother and their
four sisters. The grandparents' records may appear in the earlier
birth records now being translated.

Olga Zabludoff




--- In JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com, "Barbera Levin" <barlev@b...>
wrote:
>
> Dear Olga
>
> Thank you so much for your email. I will visit the various
websites but
> meanwhile I am experiencing so much frustration. We visited Yad
Vashem in
> Jerusalem in November and were unable to find details of my
father's family
> who were all killed in the Holocaust. I do have pictures of many
of them but
> do not know their married names. However my grandparents were:
>
> Sara and Baruch Linde(he died young before the war)
> Their daughters(my father's sisters), Shayna, Esther,Laya and his
brother
> whose name I can't remember.
>
> They lived in Keidan and my father's name was Motel(Max)or
Mordechai as he
> was known in South Africa to where he emigrated to .in 1927. I
know that my
> father studied at the university in Kovno(Kaunas)
>
> Do you have any information? At Yad Vashem they had a record of
Sara Linde
> but she was the wife of Abraham perhaps a relation but not my
grandparents.
>
> I would be grateful for any help.
>
> Regards
> Barbara Levin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of ozabludoff
> Sent: 09 January 2006 20:48
> To: JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [JewishKeidan] Keidan Vital Records Project Update
>
> Another set of translated Keidan birth records has been
distributed
> to qualified contributors to the Keidan Vital Records translation
> project, a LitvakSIG program. This marks the completion of thirty-
> six years of birth records totaling more than 3,000 documents. The
> translations are continuing at a steady, predictable pace, with
all
> indications that the remaining fourteen years of records will be
> completed and distributed by April, bringing the total number of
> birth records to 4,500. We will then move on to Phase 2 of the
> project, the marriage records.
>
> Phase 1 will have been completed in less than a year from the
start
> date. The Keidan VRI Project has an established track record.
> Donations are no longer a "risk";  they are an investment. Your
> contributions will not lie in a stagnant fund. They are put to
work
> and they yield returns. Please invest so that we can complete the
> entire project--the translation of  some 15,000 Keidan vital
records.
>
> This effort is not solely about the translation of records. It is
> about awakening a half-century of our ancestors' lives in Keidan.
We
> can never know enough about them, but we can begin to imagine
their
> marriages, picture their children and mourn their deaths. We
> discover their cousins, their neighbors, their rabbis; we enter
the
> 19th century Jewish community of Keidan.
>
> I have compiled a surname index based on the translated records to
> date. Anyone who wishes to know whether his or her families are
> represented in the records is welcome to contact me.
>
> For details about the project please visit the website of the
> LitvakSIG Vital Records Indexing Project:
> http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeol99x/
>
> Olga Zabludoff
> Keidan Coordinator
> oz@i...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>









Yahoo! Groups Links

Ronald:

I have a record of an Annie (possibly born Hana or Henke) Smit, born
between 1875 and 1881 in Keidan to Yosef Smit and Goldie Krost.
According to my records, Annie had two sisters, one named Etka; the
other's name is unknown.  Their father Yosef emigrated to South
Africa.  Annie married Shaul Shmuel ("Samuel") Betten, who was born
about 1877 in nearby Seta (Shat).  Samuel and his parents and
siblings emigrated to the USA in 1900 (via Liverpool and Quebec) and
settled in Worcester, Massachusetts (Annie may have arrived later; I
don't have an immigration record for her).  One of my sources claims
that Annie and Samuel were married in Keidan and Samuel moved there
before emigrating; however, I have their October 1904 marriage record
in Worcester, so they may have met there.

Annie and Samuel moved to the Bronx around 1910, apparently because
Annie had asthma and was told that the air quality was better
there (!).  I'm told that Samuel later became the secretary of the
Keidaner Association in New York.  They had four children, one of
whom was alive in NYC as of a couple years ago.  Annie died in the
Bronx around 1948.

Hope this helps.  (By the way, I understand the Krost family has been
extensively researched; I have no records myself, but maybe someone
else can help you with that side of the family.)

Samuel Betten's mother, Leah Dina Pimshteyn (1857-1902), was my great-
grandfather's sister.  If anyone has information on the Pimshteyn
family of Keidan, Jonava and the area, I'd appreciate it.

David Pemstein
Boston, MA USA
researching PIMSHTEYN and variants


--- In JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com, "Dr Asherson" <ashron@i...>
wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any information regarding any survivors of these
families.
> ?? The Stung family was very large indeed.they all seem to have
vanished ?in
> the holocaust as have all the memebers of the Smit family .Dr Ronald
> Asherson, South Africa
>

Dear David:

You asked whether anyone had information on the PIMSHTEYN family of
Keidan. There are 13 Pimshteyn birth records so far in my surname
index. There are also 2 BETEN birth records and 34 KROST birth
records.

Please go to the LitvakSIG Vital Records Indexing Project at

  http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeol99x/

if you are not familiar with this project. We are nearing completion
of all the translated Keidan birth records and shall be starting on
the marriage records soon. These will be followed by divorce and
death records.

Ronald knows of the large number of STUNG and SMIDT birth records in
our database.

Olga Zabludoff
Keidan VRI Coordinator

--- In JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com, "dpemstein" <dpemstein@r...>
wrote:
>
> Ronald:
>
> I have a record of an Annie (possibly born Hana or Henke) Smit,
born
> between 1875 and 1881 in Keidan to Yosef Smit and Goldie Krost.
> According to my records, Annie had two sisters, one named Etka;
the
> other's name is unknown.  Their father Yosef emigrated to South
> Africa.  Annie married Shaul Shmuel ("Samuel") Betten, who was
born
> about 1877 in nearby Seta (Shat).  Samuel and his parents and
> siblings emigrated to the USA in 1900 (via Liverpool and Quebec)
and
> settled in Worcester, Massachusetts (Annie may have arrived later;
I
> don't have an immigration record for her).  One of my sources
claims
> that Annie and Samuel were married in Keidan and Samuel moved
there
> before emigrating; however, I have their October 1904 marriage
record
> in Worcester, so they may have met there.
>
> Annie and Samuel moved to the Bronx around 1910, apparently
because
> Annie had asthma and was told that the air quality was better
> there (!).  I'm told that Samuel later became the secretary of the
> Keidaner Association in New York.  They had four children, one of
> whom was alive in NYC as of a couple years ago.  Annie died in the
> Bronx around 1948.
>
> Hope this helps.  (By the way, I understand the Krost family has
been
> extensively researched; I have no records myself, but maybe
someone
> else can help you with that side of the family.)
>
> Samuel Betten's mother, Leah Dina Pimshteyn (1857-1902), was my
great-
> grandfather's sister.  If anyone has information on the Pimshteyn
> family of Keidan, Jonava and the area, I'd appreciate it.
>
> David Pemstein
> Boston, MA USA
> researching PIMSHTEYN and variants
>
>
> --- In JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com, "Dr Asherson" <ashron@i...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have any information regarding any survivors of
these
> families.
> > ?? The Stung family was very large indeed.they all seem to have
> vanished ?in
> > the holocaust as have all the memebers of the Smit family .Dr
Ronald
> > Asherson, South Africa
> >
>

Joanne... here is latest info about your family..... we seem to come from a
generation back as we discussed....although the name Etka (Annie's sister)
is of great interest as it is very similar to Enta my ggrandmother.. Warm
egards Ron
-----Original Message-----

Many thanks..this is the family of Joanne Betten -Kaplan whom I met sedveral
months ago in San Diego....they will be most intrested.. I shall forward
your email to her. Our Smit famioly must come from an earlier time...my
ggrandmother was Enta or Yetta and HER father was Joseph  too. What we think
is that the Joseph you mention may have been the grandson of Yetta's
father...as we are often nnamed after our deceased grandparents.....my
ggrandmother would have been born circa 1840 as she died in london in the
1920's.She had one sister. She should appear on the earlier Keidan
records.Yetta /Enta married Isher Stung/Shtung who was the only sibling in
his family... he died young... hence the name phonetically Asherson (=
isherstung)...Many thanks.. Dr Ronald Asherson, South Africa

Many thanks Olga ! This is the family of Joanne betten Kaplan of San Diego
whom I met in October in San Diego..I nhave forwaqrded the email to her. My
ggrandmother whose father was ALSO Joseph was born circa 1840.... we think
that the Joseph mentioned here may well have been his grandson......so these
are the records we are waiting for. Yetta.or Enta would have been married
anywhere between 1860 -1864... to Isher Stung. Her first child was born in
1865 (Hana Dvorah) and second (Itzik) in 1874...Ronald Asherson

-----Original Message-----
From: JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ozabludoff
Sent: 24 January 2006 05:35
To: JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [JewishKeidan] Re: Stung/Smit familes


Dear David:

You asked whether anyone had information on the PIMSHTEYN family of
Keidan. There are 13 Pimshteyn birth records so far in my surname
index. There are also 2 BETEN birth records and 34 KROST birth
records.

Please go to the LitvakSIG Vital Records Indexing Project at

  http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeol99x/

if you are not familiar with this project. We are nearing completion
of all the translated Keidan birth records and shall be starting on
the marriage records soon. These will be followed by divorce and
death records.

Ronald knows of the large number of STUNG and SMIDT birth records in
our database.

Olga Zabludoff
Keidan VRI Coordinator

There is a Pimstein family in South Africa...I assume this is the same name
?? Ronald Asherson

-----Original Message-----

Ron, Interesting information. It is extremely likely
that my dad knew Sam Betten. In 1938 my dad Ben
(Barnet) Weinstein and Sam Betten  both held office in
the Keidaner Society of New York.

                                             Josh
Weinstein
(For other viewers, Dr. Asherson and I (and my dad)
have dna matches on our paternal line. A match implies
that we likely had a common ancestor around two
centuries ago. We have looked for "missing links" but
to no avail. However remote Sam Betten is the first
identified person with links to both families.
Hopefully, this is a sgn that there may be more
links.)

Yes, Ronald, PIMSTEIN is the Anglicized version of the name PIMSHTEYN
in the Old Country.

Olga

--- In JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com, "Dr Asherson" <ashron@i...> wrote:
>
> There is a Pimstein family in South Africa...I assume this is the
same name
> ?? Ronald Asherson
>
> -----Original Message-----
>

Yes , small world indeed, particularly Keidan ! Dr Ronald Asherson

-----Original Message-----
From: JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Josh Weinstein
Sent: 24 January 2006 18:03
To: JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [JewishKeidan] Re: Stung/Smit familes


Ron, Interesting information. It is extremely likely
that my dad knew Sam Betten. In 1938 my dad Ben
(Barnet) Weinstein and Sam Betten  both held office in
the Keidaner Society of New York.

                                             Josh
Weinstein
(For other viewers, Dr. Asherson and I (and my dad)
have dna matches on our paternal line. A match implies
that we likely had a common ancestor around two
centuries ago. We have looked for "missing links" but
to no avail. However remote Sam Betten is the first
identified person with links to both families.
Hopefully, this is a sgn that there may be more
links.)






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On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 06:04:26 +0200 Josh Weinstein wrote:

> In 1938 my dad Ben (Barnet) Weinstein and Sam Betten both held office in
> the Keidaner Society of New York.

Sam BETTEN was originally from Seta (Shat), Lithuania.  He married Annie KROST from Kedainiai.  They are buried in the Kedainer Association plot at Montefiore Cemetery in Queens, NY.  Samuel's parents, Solomon BETTEN and Ethel Leah [maiden name unknown] are buried in the Shater Prog. Benevolent Assocation plot in the same cemetery.

Another former president of the Kedainer Association was Samuel GREENBLATT (1876 c.-1938), who was born in Vandziogala, Lithuania.  He was married to Beckie SAGOWITZ (ZAGOVICH from Kedainiai).  Samuel and Beckie are buried in the older plot for the Kedainer Association at Washington Cemetery in Brooklyn.  The point I'm making though is that a president or other officer of the Kedainer Association wasn't necessarily a Kedainer himself, but rather he married one.

Samuel GREENBLATT's Hebrew name was Yehoshua ben Asher Shlomo.  Co-incidental or not, my late father, also named Samuel GREENBLATT (1911-2000), was Shmuel ben Asher.  My father's paternal roots were in Seta and Vandziogala, but I don't know if my father and the president of the Kedainer Association shared a same common ancestor (my father was a generation younger than his Kedainer Association namesake).

Ada Green

adagreen@... 

A few corrections regarding my grandfather, Samuel BETTEN:

His parents were Solomon (Schlomo Chatzkel) Betten and Leah Dinah PEMSTEIN.
Etel Leah was Solomon's second wife. Also, Sam married Annie (Hene) SMIT,
not Krost.  Her mother was Golda KROST.

Joanne Betten Kaplan
jbkaplan@...

When the Keidan Vital Records Indexing Project went into action less
than a year ago, I received an avalanche of inquiries I was unable
to answer. Everyone wanted to know whether I had records for their
grandparents, great-grandparents and g-g-gs. No one seemed to
realize that I didn't know what I had. There was no index and
translations  had not yet begun.

But the questions continued. After 25 years of Keidan birth records
had been translated, I compiled a rudimentary surname index based on
those translated records. Now I was able to give the basics: how
many birth records I had for a given surname. But the questions
continued, searching for more specific information that I could not
provide.

Keidaners, now you can ask again if I have your great-great-
grandfather's birth record, and I will find the answer in about
three seconds. Jose Gutstein has applied his imaginative hi-tech
skills in designing the perfect instrument for us. Forty-one years
of translated birth records have just been distributed to qualified
donors in a new format which has been greeted with "WOWs"  from
recipients. By April all the birth records will be completed--some
4,500--and translation of the marriage records will commence.

To find out more about our dynamic Vital Records Indexing  Project,
please visit the LitvakSIG VRI Project website:

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeol99x/

and contact me with your questions.

Olga Zabludoff
Keidan VRI Coordinator

Dear Olga

Forgive this very brief note to say "thank you for all your emails". I so
appreciate what you are doing.

Take care
Regards Barbara

When the Keidan Vital Records Indexing Project went into action less
than a year ago, I received an avalanche of inquiries I was unable
to answer. Everyone wanted to know whether I had records for their
grandparents, great-grandparents and g-g-gs. No one seemed to
realize that I didn't know what I had. There was no index and
translations  had not yet begun.

But the questions continued. After 25 years of Keidan birth records
had been translated, I compiled a rudimentary surname index based on
those translated records. Now I was able to give the basics: how
many birth records I had for a given surname. But the questions
continued, searching for more specific information that I could not
provide.

Keidaners, now you can ask again if I have your great-great-
grandfather's birth record, and I will find the answer in about
three seconds. Jose Gutstein has applied his imaginative hi-tech
skills in designing the perfect instrument for us. Forty-one years
of translated birth records have just been distributed to qualified
donors in a new format which has been greeted with "WOWs"  from
recipients. By April all the birth records will be completed--some
4,500--and translation of the marriage records will commence.

To find out more about our dynamic Vital Records Indexing  Project,
please visit the LitvakSIG VRI Project website:

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeol99x/

and contact me with your questions.

Olga Zabludoff
Keidan VRI Coordinator

Hi Emily,

I have 11 ZANG birth records. In nine of them the father is a ZANG, and
in two, the mother is a ZANG married to a ROZMAN. The records are for
the following years: 1854, 1859, 1862, 1863, 1880, 1881, 1883, 1886,
1901, 1903, 1906. If you know any specific given names, I can tell you
if they're there. We are not yet finished all the birth records, so
more could show up.

KOTZEN as such I don't see any. But there are KATSENBERGS and KHAZHANS.
--could possibly be another form of the name. Of course, KATS is there
in abundance.

Thanks for asking and let me know if you have further questions.

Olga









--- In JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com, emily karmen <ek2072000@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Olga,
>
>   I'm looking for the Zang or Kotzen families...any information?
thanks so much!
>
>   Emily Karmen
>

Hi Olga,

 

I'm looking for the Zang or Kotzen families...any information? thanks so much!

 

Emily Karmen

ozabludoff <ozabludoff@...> wrote:

When the Keidan Vital Records Indexing Project went into action less
than a year ago, I received an avalanche of inquiries I was unable
to answer. Everyone wanted to know whether I had records for their
grandparents, great-grandparents and g-g-gs. No one seemed to
realize that I didn't know what I had. There was no index and
translations  had not yet begun.

But the questions continued. After 25 years of Keidan birth records
had been translated, I compiled a rudimentary surname index based on
those translated records. Now I was able to give the basics: how
many birth records I had for a given surname. But the questions
continued, searching for more specific information that I could not
provide.

Keidaners, now you can ask again if I have your great-great-
grandfather's birth record, and I will find the answer in about
three seconds. Jose Gutstein has applied his imaginative hi-tech
skills in designing the perfect instrument for us. Forty-one years
of translated birth records have just been distributed to qualified
donors in a new format which has been greeted with "WOWs"  from
recipients. By April all the birth records will be completed--some
4,500--and translation of the marriage records will commence.

To find out more about our dynamic Vital Records Indexing  Project,
please visit the LitvakSIG VRI Project website:

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeol99x/

and contact me with your questions.

Olga Zabludoff
Keidan VRI Coordinator

---

Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!

Hi, Emily,

 

I replied to you on the group list. Didn't really see the message here. Hope you have read my response.

 

Best,

 

Olga

emily karmen <ek2072000@...> wrote:

Hi Olga,

 

I'm looking for the Zang or Kotzen families...any information? thanks so much!

 

Emily Karmen

ozabludoff <ozabludoff@...> wrote:

When the Keidan Vital Records Indexing Project went into action less
than a year ago, I received an avalanche of inquiries I was unable
to answer. Everyone wanted to know whether I had records for their
grandparents, great-grandparents and g-g-gs. No one seemed to
realize that I didn't know what I had. There was no index and
translations  had not yet begun.

But the questions continued. After 25 years of Keidan birth records
had been translated, I compiled a rudimentary surname index based on
those translated records. Now I was able to give the basics: how
many birth records I had for a given surname. But the questions
continued, searching for more specific information that I could not
provide.

Keidaners, now you can ask again if I have your great-great-
grandfather's birth record, and I will find the answer in about
three seconds. Jose Gutstein has applied his imaginative hi-tech
skills in designing the perfect instrument for us. Forty-one years
of translated birth records have just been distributed to qualified
donors in a new format which has been greeted with "WOWs"  from
recipients. By April all the birth records will be completed--some
4,500--and translation of the marriage records will commence.

To find out more about our dynamic Vital Records Indexing  Project,
please visit the LitvakSIG VRI Project website:

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeol99x/

and contact me with your questions.

Olga Zabludoff
Keidan VRI Coordinator

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-----Original Message-----
From: JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com [mailto:JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Maurice Marks - Esanmo
Sent: 09 February 2006 19:47
To: JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [JewishKeidan] Keidaners! Now you can ask all...

The question I asked was,Do you have any record of the names-Hochman,Eker,Julius Marks,all of whom we believe originated in Kovno Gebornia. Your response would be greatly appreciated.Maurice Marks.

 

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From: JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com [mailto:JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Olga Zabludoff
Sent: 09 February 2006 16:38
To: JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [JewishKeidan] Keidaners! Now you can ask all...

 

Hi, Emily,

 

I replied to you on the group list. Didn't really see the message here. Hope you have read my response.

 

Best,

 

Olga

emily karmen <ek2072000@...> wrote:

Hi Olga,

 

I'm looking for the Zang or Kotzen families...any information? thanks so much!

 

Emily Karmen

ozabludoff <ozabludoff@...> wrote:

When the Keidan Vital Records Indexing Project went into action less
than a year ago, I received an avalanche of inquiries I was unable
to answer. Everyone wanted to know whether I had records for their
grandparents, great-grandparents and g-g-gs. No one seemed to
realize that I didn't know what I had. There was no index and
translations  had not yet begun.

But the questions continued. After 25 years of Keidan birth records
had been translated, I compiled a rudimentary surname index based on
those translated records. Now I was able to give the basics: how
many birth records I had for a given surname. But the questions
continued, searching for more specific information that I could not
provide.

Keidaners, now you can ask again if I have your great-great-
grandfather's birth record, and I will find the answer in about
three seconds. Jose Gutstein has applied his imaginative hi-tech
skills in designing the perfect instrument for us. Forty-one years
of translated birth records have just been distributed to qualified
donors in a new format which has been greeted with "WOWs"  from
recipients. By April all the birth records will be completed--some
4,500--and translation of the marriage records will commence.

To find out more about our dynamic Vital Records Indexing  Project,
please visit the LitvakSIG VRI Project website:

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeol99x/

and contact me with your questions.

Olga Zabludoff
Keidan VRI Coordinator

 

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Hi Emily,

Ariogala was/is 18 miles from Keidan. Yes, the Keidan records
indicate definite connections between the two towns. Many Keidaners
were either registered in Ariogala, had lived there, or moved back
and forth. A website that has lots of information on Ariogala is
David and Sonia Hoffman's Grand Duchy of Lithuania Project:

http://www.jewishfamilyhistory.org/

Some Keidaners also originated in Raseiniai, but those are much
fewer in number. Raseiniai is considerably further from Keidan than
is Ariogala.

I am having trouble identifying Jacob Zang and his children you
name. Yokhel, son of Faitel and Keile Mariasha Zang, was born in
1863, but I don't think he is Jacob. Khiene (1854), Leah (1859),
Nekhama (1852) and Zise were also children of Faitel.

Mendel (1881) and Pinkhes (1886) were Yokhel's children, but they
don't sound like George or Julius, and anyway, Yokhel doesn't sound
like he's Jacob.

There is a Getsel who could possibly be George, and he would have
been born around 1880, but his father was named Faitel. Three of his
children were born between 1901 and 1906. So there you are, lots of
Zangs (I haven't named them all), but they don't seem to fit,
although they are probably a part of your family.

Best,

Olga


--- In JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com, emily karmen <ek2072000@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Olga,
>
>   Thanks so much for your response. Jacob Zang and his children
George, Tessie, Lena, Julius and I think there might be a couple of
others (unfortunately whose names escape me), would be the ones I'm
looking for...George Zang (changed later to Sang) is my great great
grandfather. I think he was born around 1880. He and his wife (Sara
Sang nee Kotzen) are buried at New Montifiore in Queens.
>
>   About the Kotzens, I have some information that they may have
lived originally in Ariogala (sp?) and Rasenai (sp?). I've found
some hastily written notes that are hard to make sense of! Was there
much intermingling between families in these towns and Keidan? What
was their relationship to one another?
>
>   Thanks again for all your help! I have a distant cousin in
Israel who I managed to find (she's also descended from the Zangs)
and both of us are eager to learn more.
>
>   Regards,
>   Emily
>

Dear Olga,

Thanks again for all your thorough compilation of records. I have gone
through them and am very grateful.

Regards
Barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com [mailto:JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of ozabludoff
Sent: 05 February 2006 02:30
To: JewishKeidan@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [JewishKeidan] Keidaners! Now you can ask all...

When the Keidan Vital Records Indexing Project went into action less
than a year ago, I received an avalanche of inquiries I was unable
to answer. Everyone wanted to know whether I had records for their
grandparents, great-grandparents and g-g-gs. No one seemed to
realize that I didn't know what I had. There was no index and
translations  had not yet begun.

But the questions continued. After 25 years of Keidan birth records
had been translated, I compiled a rudimentary surname index based on
those translated records. Now I was able to give the basics: how
many birth records I had for a given surname. But the questions
continued, searching for more specific information that I could not
provide.

Keidaners, now you can ask again if I have your great-great-
grandfather's birth record, and I will find the answer in about
three seconds. Jose Gutstein has applied his imaginative hi-tech
skills in designing the perfect instrument for us. Forty-one years
of translated birth records have just been distributed to qualified
donors in a new format which has been greeted with "WOWs"  from
recipients. By April all the birth records will be completed--some
4,500--and translation of the marriage records will commence.

To find out more about our dynamic Vital Records Indexing  Project,
please visit the LitvakSIG VRI Project website:

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeol99x/

and contact me with your questions.

Olga Zabludoff
Keidan VRI Coordinator











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