Dear Friends,       I have a confusion with Khap and Gotra. Like by khap I am Balyan and our Gotra is Raghuvansi. Normally we know that our gotra is...
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rohnit phore
rohnitp@...
Oct 7, 2008 4:56 pm
As we have seen farmers protesting forced acquisitions of land in NOIDA, Delhi & Haryana. Compensation, once taken at govt rates finishes/devided within years....
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Jespal Brar
jespal_brar
Oct 8, 2008 11:16 pm
Aryans of Asia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrXFuemGCo8&NR=1Â Â Death of Beauty http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRGlfNIIVXQ&feature=related Aryans of Asia ...
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Ravi Chaudhary
ravichaudhar...
Oct 9, 2008 6:53 pm
Jespal. Thanks This is silly material. Unfortunately, this is the only material, that many are going to see Which makes groups like this more relevant Ravi...
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Laxman Burdak
lr_burdak
Oct 14, 2008 4:32 am
Hi Bhpendra ji, Please read two articles on Jatland Wiki. You will get some understanding: http://www.jatland.com/home/Khap http://www.jatland.com/home/Gotra ...
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Ravi Chaudhary
ravichaudhar...
Oct 15, 2008 8:30 pm
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2007/20070902/punjab1.htm Alexander faced defeat here Remnants of 2,300-yr-old fort to see light Varinder Walia Tribune News...
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Ajay Singh
asingh71@...
Oct 15, 2008 9:17 pm
Ravi, As per Western/Roman writers Alexander was defeated and shot with an arrow by Malhi(Jat) tribe and not by Kathi.Bawa/Ahliwalia(Khatri etc.) again trying...
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Jespal Brar
jespal_brar
Oct 15, 2008 10:11 pm
My wife is from Bundala.  She is a Hundal Jat.   Yes, she had mentioned that there are old artifacts from ancient times.  I have to check with my...
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Laxman Burdak
lr_burdak
Oct 16, 2008 2:12 pm
We have some info about Kath on Jatland Wiki http://www.jatland.com/home/Kath Kath (कठ) Kathya (कठ्य) is a gotra of Jats....
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Ravi Chaudhary
ravichaudhar...
Oct 16, 2008 4:04 pm
... Luxmanji Where does Arrian make this statement? " Arrian writes that Jats were the bravest people he had to contest with in India." I have not come across...
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Ravi Chaudhary
ravichaudhar...
Oct 16, 2008 4:11 pm
... ********** The claim that Porus was defeated, is only from the Greek Sources Arrian etc. There are some conflicting accounts. e.g see Budge, E A W. The...
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Jespal Brar
jespal_brar
Oct 16, 2008 4:20 pm
Ravi,  Actually, there is a lot of truth in that youtube segment.   Please articulate when you say it is "silly"?   It is a fact that Central and...
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Ravi Chaudhary
ravichaudhar...
Oct 17, 2008 2:18 am
Here is an extract from a book by Mr Agarwal, a book based on his Phd Thesis. Readers will, I am sure, find his line of reasoning interesting. Extracts can be...
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Ravi Chaudhary
ravichaudhar...
Oct 17, 2008 2:28 am
There is whole lot of superficiality in the You tube presentation. Yes undoubtedly, there are descendants of Central Asian, and Iranian tribes in the Indian...
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Laxman Burdak
lr_burdak
Oct 17, 2008 2:59 am
Raviji, We have History of Jats by R S Joon on Jatland Wiki: http://www.jatland.com/home/History_of_the_Jats/Chapter_IV Please see under the heading -...
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Jespal Brar
jespal_brar
Oct 17, 2008 3:50 am
Hi Ravi,  No one is speaking of racial purity in any sense.   However, ...."gene markers, which at best is still a bit of an inexact science"  - I...
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Ravi Chaudhary
ravichaudhar...
Oct 17, 2008 1:15 pm
Luxmanji You must do better than this. The question is where does Arrian in what book of his, what page, does he refer to a people as jats. All Joon is doing,...
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kharbnarender
Oct 18, 2008 2:54 pm
Laxman ji Only primary sources are important .Secondary sources are mere interpretations which may or may not be true. Now important question is whether Joon...
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kharbnarender
Oct 18, 2008 3:21 pm
Hi Jaspal I agree with you to a large extent . I believe Ravi ji has a concept that Different Racial groups joined to form a hetrogeneous Social Group JAT ,but...
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kharbnarender
Oct 18, 2008 3:25 pm
Again Mongols have been their enemies be it be plains of Jatta nation in Transoxania or gangetic plains where Taimur ,Babar and Aurangjeb were their sworn...
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Laxman Burdak
lr_burdak
Oct 19, 2008 3:03 am
Raviji and Narenderji, I had put The Jatland Wiki page about Kath reference. When Raviji asked where it is mentioned I gave reference of R S Joon. It has come...
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Laxman Burdak
lr_burdak
Oct 19, 2008 3:53 am
Members can see these information about Jats in ancient Indian epics in English along with sanskrit on Jatland Wiki at URL: ...
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kharbnarender
Oct 20, 2008 12:00 am
Laxman ji You are doing a wonderful job for the community .Earlier I used to reject every thing related to mythology but many times these mythologiocal stories...
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kharbnarender
Oct 20, 2008 12:06 am
A little Correction Please Don't take Scythian=Saka . Sakas were just a part of Scythians . This single mistake has clouded Jat History to a Large exrent . ......
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Laxman Burdak
lr_burdak
Oct 20, 2008 2:48 am
Narenderji, I do not have RS Joon's book but there is Online version on Jatland Wiki. I do not think he has referred with specific page number. Raviji is...
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Ravi Chaudhary
ravichaudhar...
Oct 20, 2008 1:31 pm
... What is online is a scanned copy of Joon's Book NO where does Joon in his book give reference to an page fom Arrian. He gives his only conclusion, i.e...
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Ajay Singh
asingh71@...
Oct 20, 2008 8:43 pm
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Ajay Singh
asingh71@...
Oct 21, 2008 7:42 pm
Reason why a Jat will never be General or Chief of Army. Jats have to change to play the game for the sake of game e.g Like actors who are not the same when...
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Jespal Brar
jespal_brar
Oct 21, 2008 8:02 pm
Ajay Singh Ji,  Before the Sikhs used to say the same thing.  A Sikh will never be made Indian Chief of Staff - Defence.  In the end a Sikh was made...
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Ajay Singh
asingh71@...
Oct 21, 2008 8:10 pm
What I see that after Ved Prakash malik its a flood of Khatri genreals in the Army.Where are jats or Jat Sikhs ? Jat is first Jat then Hindu, Sikh or Muslim.My...
