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John,

Your J-28 could be of interest.� I have written you direct to provide a rundown on what I need to determine interest.� Hunting for the “next” boat is always process difficult process for me �separating what I want from what I need in the new boat.

Bill

From: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 8:29 PM
To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Search Assist

Ok, I almost hate stating this but my boat, J28 hull #11 is for sale.
it is not listed and won't be advertised till spring. Plenty of upgrades including an 8:1 main outhaul with acess from the cockpit. WHALAYED is in what I consider to be very good shape but I'm the owner and therefore bias. The bad news is I want 30K for it.

John Whaley
jfws88@...

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "William Kellett" wrote:
>
> Jeff,
>
>
>
> Good market intelligence re the Cleveland boat. I went so far as to get her
> USCG Doc number form the Documentation people. My next step, were I to
> proceed was to get an abstract of title using her number (937108) that I
> obtained from the USCG Doc people. I think both the condition of the boat
> (based on your findings )and the seller (based on mine) have shown me that I
> should drop this boat from consideration. The other one I mentioned is in
> Greenport, Long Island (NY). She is being brokered by brick Cove marina .
> Here the boat is owned by an east coast-west coast commuting lawyer who has
> do nothing with the boat for two years and apparently she is received so
> little car that the broker asked that I not come to have a look at her. He
> said possibly sometime in the summer.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> From: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Jeff Keen
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 6:37 PM
> To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [J28Sailors] Re: Search Assist
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
>
>
> I looked into the Cleveland boat over the summer during my own search for a
> J-28. I am in Chicago, so I hired a surveyor to take a 30-minute
> preliminary glance at the boat. The results were terrible. The surveyor
> did some additional research and found that the current owner bought it at
> auction for $15K, according to state records. I see it listed for $31,500
> and it is in rough shape. I can give you more details and photos if you're
> interested.
>
>
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:34 PM, wrote:
>
>
>
> I think people get attached to these boats and don't want to let them go....
>
>
>
> When I was looking, there were 4 boats for sale, I could not get a response
> from 3 of the owners/brokers. On thing is that some of the cherry boats
> still command a cherry price.
>
> Few of the boats I looked at fit that catagory, but the owners still wanted
> top dollar. They will come around when they find out the condition of the
> boat.
>
>
>
> After I bought my boat, There were a couple that came up for sale that were
> really spectacular, but more than I paid. My boat had some issues, but it
> also had a lot of nice new gear that the then owners had up graded.
>
> In the end, I think we found a price that was fair to both sides. IF your
> looking for a turn key boat, you may have to wait abit, but a little sweat
> equity maybe worth it....
>
>
>
> Hang in, this is a great group of people and we all have a great boat that
> we love. Your patience will be rewarded!
>
> It might be worth a little longer wait too to avoid a broker and find a
> private sale here. You will save the broker fees and can use that for
> trucking
>
>
>
> Greenport? The one over by Scituate or NY? I have a great guy that trucks
> my boat to my house from Bridgeport and he is VERY reasonable, ON time and a
> PRO.
>
> If you are local to that area, I can put you in touch.
>
>
>
> JP
>
>
>
> On Jan 24, 2013, at 5:22 PM, William Kellett wrote:
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>
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>
> I have two possibilies. On is in Cleveland and the other in Greenport.
> Greenport as a location is attractive to me as there would be no trucking
> cost. The Cleveland boat could be brought down the St Lawrence or through
> the Eire Canal but time is money and thus I look at this boat as having a
> trucking cost on top of the purchase price. The frustrating thing is that
> neither that neither party wants to get on with the deal,. After the
> opening discussions, phone call s and e-mails not returned after a number of
> tries so I have taken to contacting the yacht brokers who have recently sold
> a number of J-28s thinking that as J-boat dealers they may have a pipeline.
>
>
>
> But, it all part of the fun of a quest.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> From: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of jhoagg123
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:31 AM
> To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Search Assist
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill,
> No problem. How many J 28s have you found (if any) currently actively for
> sale, and where are they located? I paid $32K for my boat a few months ago.
> I was happy enough with that price since the boat and I are both in Florida
> (so I had no trucking/transportation costs) and the boat had some extras.
>
> --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com ,
> "William Kellett" wrote:
> >
> > Jeff,
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the heads up on Hound. I did call about two weeks ago and found
> she had been sold in November. They are just slow taking down the listing. I
> do appreciate the scouting some of you have done. Please keep it up.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks, Bill
> >
> >
> >
> > From: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com ]
> On Behalf Of jhoagg123
> > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:54 AM
> > To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Search Assist
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill,
> > I'm curious if you have looked into the J 28 for sale up in New York
> (Hound?) - I think listed with McMichael yacht brokers? I know nothing about
> it, but from the pictures it looks like it might be in good shape? It has
> been listed for sale for quite a long time, so I wonder if the seller might
> accept a reasonable offer.
> > Jeff H
> >
> > --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com ,
> David Hastings wrote:
> > >
> > > JP,
> > >
> > > My J28 had extensive core rot around both chain plates which I easily
> repaired. I had done the same on my prior J29 and before that on my J24 so I
> was getting pretty good at it by the time got my j28. I also built up a
> small epoxy sleeve around the tang above deck so water no longer collects in
> the chain plate area. I can explain what I did if you wish ( repair and
> prevention ) but I can't show you pictures as my boat is up on Lake Ontario
> and I live in Florida. Won't be back up there 'til summer. Regarding the
> keel issue, from what you described sounds to me like exactly the same thing
> I had on my J29. Bilge water seeped around keel bolt nuts and washers then
> seeped down the bolts to the bolt heads buried way down in the keel and
> froze over the winter causing several pop out holes in the keel where the
> heads of the keel bolts are lodged. I filled the keel holes with epoxy and
> then applied 3M 5200 sealer around the washers and nuts in the bilge and
> that permanently fixed the problem.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > David L. Hastings
> > > 5608 W. Woodside Dr.
> > > Crystal River, FL 34429
> > > Home: 352-794-6440
> > > Cell: 315-345-2078
> > >
> > > On Jan 23, 2013, at 7:53 PM, sailingmaster@ wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello all
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > IN answers to the banter on the yahoo group, and I have posted some
> new pics. There are pics of the mystery ship LE SOLEIL, Pics of some
> delaminated deck/chainplate, and Pics of a small mystery hole in my keel
> that appeared after haul out, as well of cool pics of my J28 on its TRAILER
> in my yard.....my neighbors are so JEALOUS!!!!!!!!
> > > >
> > > > I have talked a bit to Bill Foster on this site re wet deck core etc,
> and wonder if others have tackled this problem and if so how? I have a SMALL
> amount of delamination on my STBD chainplate , none on port and none
> elsewhere
> > > > I want to get on this now before it becomes a bigger problem ( I am
> late getting started as the FLU has been rampant in my school and I am now
> on round = two sitting on my couch and chatting with all of you!)
> > > >
> > > > This fall after the boat was hauled I noticed a small hole in the port
> side of my keep draining some water...THIS WAS NOT there when I painted th
> bottom last spring and does not appear connected to the keep sump.
> > > > I think it may have been faired over and powerwashed open on the haul
> out.....any ideas?
> > > >
> > > > Le Soleil was the first J28 I ever saw, and it was the one that
> convinced me to jump in and join THE CULT. She was pretty fine looking and
> the guys at the boatyard said very well maintained.
> > > > i was surprised to hear about the delamination problems here, but I
> know her owner was very old, perhaps why the boat was donated to Mass
> Maritime.
> > > >
> > > > If anyone has any good advice about the chainplate/deck core repair,
> please feel free to email me at sailingmaster@
> > > >
> > > > Happy spring! See you all at the big Defender sale in March!
> > > >
> > > > JP
> > > > On Jan 23, 2013, at 4:48 PM, William Kellett wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Tom,
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks for the information. How common are delamination issues in the
> J-28 and how difficult are they to repair. Same question regards moisture in
> the balsa core in the area of the chain-plates?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Bill
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> From: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> ] On Behalf Of Thomas West
> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 4:11 PM
> > > >> To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > >> Subject: Re: [J28Sailors] Re: Search Assist
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Bill,
> > > >>
> > > >> Yes, good in appearance but the survey found delamination issues...
> > > >>
> > > >> Tom
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> From: William Kellett
> > > >> To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:55 PM
> > > >> Subject: RE: [J28Sailors] Re: Search Assist
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Tom,
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Thank you for the information on Le Soleil. Thatâ�‚��„�s unfortunate
> that she has gone to points unknown. Apparently she was in nice condition.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Bill
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> From: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> ] On Behalf Of Thomas West
> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:39 PM
> > > >> To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > >> Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Search Assist
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> FWIW, Le Soleil was donated to Mass Maritime last spring and was sold
> by them in late Summer. Current whereabouts unknown, unless it is now back
> in CT.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Tom
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > __________________________________________________________
> > >
> >
>

#675

From: "William Kellett" <w.kellett@...>
Date: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:45 am
Subject: RE: Re: Search Assist

kellett51

John,

Your location places you just minutes away from us in Mystic. I your boat in a shed or under a winter cover?� Further, how does you schedule look.� I am open either on weekends or during the week.� This Sunday afternoon would work for us or pick a day next week.� Call or e-mail me direct.

The e-mail address (ifws88@...) �is not working for me—my e-mail to you at that address was bounced by the Daemon.

e-mail me direct to I can correct it in my address book.� Thanks

Bill Kellett

w.kellett@...

860-572-7788

#676

From: "jhoagg123" <jhoagg123@...>
Date: Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:09 pm
Subject: Holding Tank

jhoagg123

All,
Anyone happen to have an extra holding tank in good shape (which would be weird
I admit), or have the dimensions of the holding tank?  Thanks.

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#677

From: Thomas Quinlan <quinla_t@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:32 am
Subject: (No subject)

quinla_t...

hi!
http://www.disoleatore.eu/components/com_content/mainx.php?e0pucn=ou4gk

Thomas Quinlan

#678

From: Thomas Quinlan <quinla_t@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:22 am
Subject: (No subject)

quinla_t...

hello!

http://www.intacasita.es/components/com_content/indexs.php?2ms2a=xmz8

Thomas Quinlan

1/31/2013 9:21:56 AM

#679

From: "Stahl, Stephen" <stahl@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:24 pm
Subject: Re: (unknown)

stevo5550

He must have posted his bond, or has access to the internet in his jail cell! :)

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=8937278

At 08:32 PM 1/30/2013, you wrote:

hi!
http://www.dis..........

Thomas Quinlan

#680

From: "taylorbj28" <taylorbj28@...>
Date: Sun Feb 3, 2013 4:57 pm
Subject: Re: Spinnaker Wanted

taylorbj28

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "propeslarry"  wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "taylorbj28"  wrote:
> >
> > I am looking for a used spinnaker for my J 28 for Wednesday night racing.
Thank you. Brad Taylor
> >
> I have a spinnaker ( UK ) and pole. If still looking call me at 803- 787-0303
>

I bought a used chute but might want another. What color is the chute (my other
sails are UK) how much would you like for it and the pole? Where are you
located?

Thanks,
Brad

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#681

From: "taylorbj28" <taylorbj28@...>
Date: Sun Feb 3, 2013 5:06 pm
Subject: Re: Search Assist

taylorbj28

I purchased Le Soleil late last summer after a second very thorough survey.
Small areas of delamination at the port chainplate and a small area outside the
starboard genoa track. All other areas were ruled out.The boat has been one
pleasant surprise after another as everything worked on the boat the first time
it was tried. She sails beautifully. I need to fiddle with the Tacktick sending
unit is about all. She is now in fresh water on Lake George in New York.

Brad Taylor

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "William Kellett"  wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
>
>
> Thank you for the information on Le Soleil.  That's unfortunate that she has
> gone to points unknown.  Apparently she was in nice condition.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> From: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Thomas West
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:39 PM
> To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Search Assist
>
>
>
>
>
> FWIW,  Le Soleil was donated to Mass Maritime last spring and was sold by
> them in late Summer.  Current whereabouts unknown, unless it is now back in
> CT.
>
>
>
> Tom
>

#682

From: sailingmaster@...
Date: Sun Feb 3, 2013 5:11 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Search Assist

thistle4002

How did you address the delamination at the chainplates

I am about to tackle that problem with Smiths CPES, looking for other ideas

Glad you like the boat...she was my sister ship in Black Rock CT!

On Feb 3, 2013, at 12:06 PM, taylorbj28 wrote:

I purchased Le Soleil late last summer after a second very thorough survey. Small areas of delamination at the port chainplate and a small area outside the starboard genoa track. All other areas were ruled out.The boat has been one pleasant surprise after another as everything worked on the boat the first time it was tried. She sails beautifully. I need to fiddle with the Tacktick sending unit is about all. She is now in fresh water on Lake George in New York.

Brad Taylor

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "William Kellett" wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
>
>
> Thank you for the information on Le Soleil. That's unfortunate that she has
> gone to points unknown. Apparently she was in nice condition.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> From: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Thomas West
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:39 PM
> To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Search Assist
>
>
>
>
>
> FWIW, Le Soleil was donated to Mass Maritime last spring and was sold by
> them in late Summer. Current whereabouts unknown, unless it is now back in
> CT.
>
>
>
> Tom
>

#683

From: sailingmaster@...
Date: Sun Feb 3, 2013 6:44 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Search Assist

thistle4002

Le Soleil in Black Rock/Bridgeport. This was the first 28 that I saw, andthe one that convincedmeto buy mine.

Thought you might like to have the pics.

On Feb 3, 2013, at 12:06 PM, taylorbj28 wrote:

I purchased Le Soleil late last summer after a second very thorough survey. Small areas of delamination at the port chainplate and a small area outside the starboard genoa track. All other areas were ruled out.The boat has been one pleasant surprise after another as everything worked on the boat the first time it was tried. She sails beautifully. I need to fiddle with the Tacktick sending unit is about all. She is now in fresh water on Lake George in New York.

Brad Taylor

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "William Kellett" wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
>
>
> Thank you for the information on Le Soleil. That's unfortunate that she has
> gone to points unknown. Apparently she was in nice condition.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> From: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Thomas West
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:39 PM
> To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Search Assist
>
>
>
>
>
> FWIW, Le Soleil was donated to Mass Maritime last spring and was sold by
> them in late Summer. Current whereabouts unknown, unless it is now back in
> CT.
>
>
>
> Tom
>

#684

From: "taylorbj28" <taylorbj28@...>
Date: Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:37 am
Subject: Re: Search Assist

taylorbj28

I have not tackled it yet. The surveyor suggested to make sure no more moisture
could get to those areas, so that is all I have done so far. I am thinking of
going in from underneath rather than cut into the deck nonskid.

Brad
--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, sailingmaster@... wrote:
>
> How did  you address the delamination at the chainplates
>
> I am about to tackle that problem with Smiths CPES, looking for other
> ideas
>
> Glad you like the boat...she was my sister ship in Black Rock CT!
>
> JP
> On Feb 3, 2013, at 12:06 PM, taylorbj28 wrote:
>
> > I purchased Le Soleil late last summer after a second very thorough
> > survey. Small areas of delamination at the port chainplate and a
> > small area outside the starboard genoa track. All other areas were
> > ruled out.The boat has been one pleasant surprise after another as
> > everything worked on the boat the first time it was tried. She sails
> > beautifully. I need to fiddle with the Tacktick sending unit is
> > about all. She is now in fresh water on Lake George in New York.
> >
> > Brad Taylor
> >
> > --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "William Kellett" wrote:
> > >
> > > Tom,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you for the information on Le Soleil. That's unfortunate
> > that she has
> > > gone to points unknown. Apparently she was in nice condition.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com] On
> > > Behalf Of Thomas West
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:39 PM
> > > To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Search Assist
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > FWIW, Le Soleil was donated to Mass Maritime last spring and was
> > sold by
> > > them in late Summer. Current whereabouts unknown, unless it is now
> > back in
> > > CT.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> >
> >
>

#685

From: "taylorbj28" <taylorbj28@...>
Date: Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:40 am
Subject: Re: Search Assist

taylorbj28

Thanks, I saved the 3 pics of the boat up on stands. I have not put up the
canvas over the cockpit, so that showed me how it looks deployed. Any shots of
the boat sailing?

Brad

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, sailingmaster@... wrote:
>
> Le Soleil in Black Rock/Bridgeport. This was the first 28 that I saw,
> andthe one that convincedmeto buy mine.
>
> Thought you might like to have the pics.
>
> On Feb 3, 2013, at 12:06 PM, taylorbj28 wrote:
>
> > I purchased Le Soleil late last summer after a second very thorough
> > survey. Small areas of delamination at the port chainplate and a
> > small area outside the starboard genoa track. All other areas were
> > ruled out.The boat has been one pleasant surprise after another as
> > everything worked on the boat the first time it was tried. She sails
> > beautifully. I need to fiddle with the Tacktick sending unit is
> > about all. She is now in fresh water on Lake George in New York.
> >
> > Brad Taylor
> >
> > --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "William Kellett" wrote:
> > >
> > > Tom,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you for the information on Le Soleil. That's unfortunate
> > that she has
> > > gone to points unknown. Apparently she was in nice condition.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com] On
> > > Behalf Of Thomas West
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:39 PM
> > > To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Search Assist
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > FWIW, Le Soleil was donated to Mass Maritime last spring and was
> > sold by
> > > them in late Summer. Current whereabouts unknown, unless it is now
> > back in
> > > CT.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> >
> >
>

#686

From: "jhoagg123" <jhoagg123@...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:12 pm
Subject: Sailcomp 103

jhoagg123

If any of you racers are looking to buy a Sailcomp 103 set up, shoot me an
email.  I have one I don't use since I don't race.  The Sailcomp has a mast
mount bracket.  I also have an extra remote key pad control I would sell
separately if someone needs just a keypad control.

#687

From: "mcclurejsteven@..." <mcclurejsteven@...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2013 11:00 pm
Subject: Recommended Propeller?

mcclurejstev...

I had hull number 62 hauled last week to clean the bottom as we start racing
next weekend and the yard advised that we must have stray current in the area as
my prop was severely pitted and the anodes were gone.  We put two on last
summer.  He said it was "pink" when he hauled it out.

Any recommendations on replacement wheels?  I have seen some posts where some
are too much, but what is just right?

Finoa, # 62

#688

From: sailingmaster@...
Date: Sat Mar 2, 2013 1:51 am
Subject: Re: Recommended Propeller?

thistle4002

Call Gary at Martec.

I think the original prob on the boat was a 16X14 and he recommeded a16X12 and its perfect.

My diesel spins up to 3400 rpm no problem, reverse is very good.

there is very lttle prop walk if you accelerate slowly, but if u rev the engine in reverse you get a nice amount,

My marina is pretty tight and with a combination of foreward and reverse and rudder, i can spin the boat in a little over its own length (cockwise)

I priced out the gori and the martec was much cheaper, about 400 dollars...there tons of barnacles where I am, and a geared prop was not a good idea

If you want to save a few dollars, I have 1sX14 the original prop size. My boat came with a totally awful fixed HUGE three blade prop

I bought this one on ebay and it needs to be balanced ( I found this out after the boat was in the water, and ended up biting the bullet and buying a new one)

This one is just slighly out of balance, but I was worried about a whole season so I changed it, I would sell it for less than what I paid and you could have martec or your local yard balance it.

If money is not an issue, then go to martec. I can only say great things about them and their service

On Mar 1, 2013, at 6:00 PM, mcclurejsteven@... wrote:

I had hull number 62 hauled last week to clean the bottom as we start racing next weekend and the yard advised that we must have stray current in the area as my prop was severely pitted and the anodes were gone. We put two on last summer. He said it was "pink" when he hauled it out.

Any recommendations on replacement wheels? I have seen some posts where some are too much, but what is just right?

Finoa, # 62

#689

From: sailingmaster@...
Date: Sat Mar 2, 2013 1:58 am
Subject: Re: Recommended Propeller?

thistle4002

PS to my last

The new Martec 16 X12 was about 800 plus shipping. I had it in 2 days from them standard UPS

On Mar 1, 2013, at 8:51 PM, sailingmaster@... wrote:

Call Gary at Martec.

I think the original prob on the boat was a 16X14 and he recommeded a16X12 and its perfect.
My diesel spins up to 3400 rpm no problem, reverse is very good.

there is very lttle prop walk if you accelerate slowly, but if u rev the engine in reverse you get a nice amount,
My marina is pretty tight and with a combination of foreward and reverse and rudder, i can spin the boat in a little over its own length (cockwise)

I priced out the gori and the martec was much cheaper, about 400 dollars...there tons of barnacles where I am, and a geared prop was not a good idea

If you want to save a few dollars, I have 1sX14 the original prop size. My boat came with a totally awful fixed HUGE three blade prop
I bought this one on ebay and it needs to be balanced ( I found this out after the boat was in the water, and ended up biting the bullet and buying a new one)

This one is just slighly out of balance, but I was worried about a whole season so I changed it, I would sell it for less than what I paid and you could have martec or your local yard balance it.

If money is not an issue, then go to martec. I can only say great things about them and their service

JP
On Mar 1, 2013, at 6:00 PM, mcclurejsteven@... wrote:

I had hull number 62 hauled last week to clean the bottom as we start racing next weekend and the yard advised that we must have stray current in the area as my prop was severely pitted and the anodes were gone. We put two on last summer. He said it was "pink" when he hauled it out.

Any recommendations on replacement wheels? I have seen some posts where some are too much, but what is just right?

Finoa, # 62

#690

From: J STEVEN MCCLURE <mcclurejsteven@...>
Date: Sun Mar 3, 2013 6:22 am
Subject: Re: Recommended Propeller?

mcclurejstev...

Thanks!

Sounds like the way to go. $ 800 every 25 years isn't a bad deal.

S

--- On Fri, 3/1/13, sailingmaster@... <sailingmaster@...> wrote:

From: sailingmaster@... <sailingmaster@...>
Subject: Re: [J28Sailors] Recommended Propeller?
To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, March 1, 2013, 7:58 PM

PS to my last

The new Martec 16 X12 was about 800 plus shipping. I had it in 2 days from them standard UPS

JP

On Mar 1, 2013, at 8:51 PM, sailingmaster@... wrote:

Call Gary at Martec.

I think the original prob on the boat was a 16X14 and he recommeded a16X12 and its perfect.

My diesel spins up to 3400 rpm no problem, reverse is very good.

there is very lttle prop walk if you accelerate slowly, but if u rev the engine in reverse you get a nice amount,

My marina is pretty tight and with a combination of foreward and reverse and rudder, i can spin the boat in a little over its own length (cockwise)

I priced out the gori and the martec was much cheaper, about 400 dollars...there tons of barnacles where I am, and a geared prop was not a good idea

If you want to save a few dollars, I have 1sX14 the original prop size. My boat came with a totally awful fixed HUGE three blade prop

I bought this one on ebay and it needs to be balanced ( I found this out after the boat was in the water, and ended up biting the bullet and buying a new one)

This one is just slighly out of balance, but I was worried about a whole season so I changed it, I would sell it for less than what I paid and you could have martec or your local yard balance it.

If money is not an issue, then go to martec. I can only say great things about them and their service

JP

On Mar 1, 2013, at 6:00 PM, mcclurejsteven@... wrote:

I had hull number 62 hauled last week to clean the bottom as we start racing next weekend and the yard advised that we must have stray current in the area as my prop was severely pitted and the anodes were gone. We put two on last summer. He said it was "pink" when he hauled it out.

Any recommendations on replacement wheels? I have seen some posts where some are too much, but what is just right?

Finoa, # 62

#691

From: "jhoagg123" <jhoagg123@...>
Date: Sun Mar 3, 2013 12:14 pm
Subject: Re: Recommended Propeller?

jhoagg123

Anyone sailing in salt water found good ways to keep barnacles, etc. off the
prop and shaft?  I'm going to try Pettit's zinc barnacle barrier paint unless
there is something better.  Thanks.

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, J STEVEN MCCLURE <mcclurejsteven@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks!
>  
> Sounds like the way to go.  $ 800 every 25 years isn't a bad deal.
>  
> S
>
> --- On Fri, 3/1/13, sailingmaster@... <sailingmaster@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: sailingmaster@... <sailingmaster@...>
> Subject: Re: [J28Sailors] Recommended Propeller?
> To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, March 1, 2013, 7:58 PM
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> PS to my last
>
>
> The new Martec 16 X12 was about 800 plus shipping. I had it in 2 days from
them standard UPS
>
>
> JP
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2013, at 8:51 PM, sailingmaster@... wrote:
>
>
>  
>
> Call Gary at Martec.
>
>
> I think the original prob on the boat was a 16X14 and he recommeded a16X12 and
its perfect.
> My diesel spins up to 3400 rpm no problem, reverse is very good.
>
>
> there is very lttle prop walk if you accelerate slowly, but if u rev the
engine in reverse you get a nice amount, 
> My marina is pretty tight and with a combination of foreward and reverse and
rudder, i can spin the boat in a little over its own length (cockwise)
>
>
> I priced out the gori and the martec was much cheaper, about 400
dollars...there tons of barnacles where I am, and a geared prop was not a good
idea
>
>
> If you want to save a few dollars, I have 1sX14 the original prop size.  My
boat came with a totally awful fixed HUGE three blade prop
> I bought this one on ebay and it needs to be balanced ( I found this out after
the boat was in the water, and ended up biting the bullet and buying a new one)
>
>
> This one is just slighly out of balance, but I was worried about a whole
season so I changed it, I would sell it for less than what I paid and you could
have martec or your local yard balance it.
>
>
> If money is not an issue, then go to martec. I can only say great things about
them and their service
>
>
> JP
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2013, at 6:00 PM, mcclurejsteven@... wrote:
>
>
>  
>
> I had hull number 62 hauled last week to clean the bottom as we start racing
next weekend and the yard advised that we must have stray current in the area as
my prop was severely pitted and the anodes were gone. We put two on last summer.
He said it was "pink" when he hauled it out.
>
> Any recommendations on replacement wheels? I have seen some posts where some
are too much, but what is just right?
>
> Finoa, # 62
>

#692

From: "William Kellett" <w.kellett@...>
Date: Sun Mar 3, 2013 12:26 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Recommended Propeller?

kellett51

Heat the blade and then Smear the prop blade with hot lanolin.

From: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jhoagg123
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 7:15 AM
To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Recommended Propeller?

Anyone sailing in salt water found good ways to keep barnacles, etc. off the prop and shaft? I'm going to try Pettit's zinc barnacle barrier paint unless there is something better. Thanks.

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, J STEVEN MCCLURE wrote:
>
> Thanks!
> �
> Sounds like the way to go.� $ 800 every 25 years isn't a bad deal.
> �
> S
>
> --- On Fri, 3/1/13, sailingmaster@... wrote:
>
>
> From: sailingmaster@...
> Subject: Re: [J28Sailors] Recommended Propeller?
> To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, March 1, 2013, 7:58 PM
>
>
>
> �
>
>
>
> PS to my last
>
>
> The new Martec 16 X12 was about 800 plus shipping. I had it in 2 days from them standard UPS
>
>
> JP
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2013, at 8:51 PM, sailingmaster@... wrote:
>
>
> �
>
> Call Gary at Martec.
>
>
> I think the original prob on the boat was a 16X14 and he recommeded a16X12 and its perfect.
> My diesel spins up to 3400 rpm no problem, reverse is very good.
>
>
> there is very lttle prop walk if you accelerate slowly, but if u rev the engine in reverse you get a nice amount,�
> My marina is pretty tight and with a combination of foreward and reverse and rudder, i can spin the boat in a little over its own length (cockwise)
>
>
> I priced out the gori and the martec was much cheaper, about 400 dollars...there tons of barnacles where I am, and a geared prop was not a good idea
>
>
> If you want to save a few dollars, I have 1sX14 the original prop size. � My boat came with a totally awful fixed HUGE three blade prop
> I bought this one on ebay and it needs to be balanced ( I found this out after the boat was in the water, and ended up biting the bullet and buying a new one)
>
>
> This one is just slighly out of balance, but I was worried about a whole season so I changed it, I would sell it for less than what I paid and you could have martec or your local yard balance it.
>
>
> If money is not an issue, then go to martec. I can only say great things about them and their service
>
>
> JP
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2013, at 6:00 PM, mcclurejsteven@... wrote:
>
>
> �
>
> I had hull number 62 hauled last week to clean the bottom as we start racing next weekend and the yard advised that we must have stray current in the area as my prop was severely pitted and the anodes were gone. We put two on last summer. He said it was "pink" when he hauled it out.
>
> Any recommendations on replacement wheels? I have seen some posts where some are too much, but what is just right?
>
> Finoa, # 62
>

#693

From: sailingmaster@...
Date: Sun Mar 3, 2013 1:02 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Recommended Propeller?

thistle4002

I would highly recommend the Petit products.

I am in in an "extremely fertile" harbor and the growth is unbelievable. The fist year I had my boat, I was hiring a diver every week to week and a half to get teh crap off the bottom and the shaft, i still do later in the season.

I put on a healthy coat of Petit SR 90 ablative bottom paint last year and had almost nothing on the bottom untill September. (I am told that the bottom paint companies use my harbor to test new products...no joke, we have warm water from the incinerator and power plant, the local treatment plant recyles water into it, and there is an old land up river...sounds romantic huh! LOL)

On Mar 3, 2013, at 7:14 AM, jhoagg123 wrote:

Anyone sailing in salt water found good ways to keep barnacles, etc. off the prop and shaft? I'm going to try Pettit's zinc barnacle barrier paint unless there is something better. Thanks.

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, J STEVEN MCCLURE wrote:
>
> Thanks!
> �
> Sounds like the way to go.� $ 800 every 25 years isn't a bad deal.
> �
> S
>
> --- On Fri, 3/1/13, sailingmaster@... wrote:
>
>
> From: sailingmaster@...
> Subject: Re: [J28Sailors] Recommended Propeller?
> To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, March 1, 2013, 7:58 PM
>
>
>
> �
>
>
>
> PS to my last
>
>
> The new Martec 16 X12 was about 800 plus shipping. I had it in 2 days from them standard UPS
>
>
> JP
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2013, at 8:51 PM, sailingmaster@... wrote:
>
>
> �
>
> Call Gary at Martec.
>
>
> I think the original prob on the boat was a 16X14 and he recommeded a16X12 and its perfect.
> My diesel spins up to 3400 rpm no problem, reverse is very good.
>
>
> there is very lttle prop walk if you accelerate slowly, but if u rev the engine in reverse you get a nice amount,�
> My marina is pretty tight and with a combination of foreward and reverse and rudder, i can spin the boat in a little over its own length (cockwise)
>
>
> I priced out the gori and the martec was much cheaper, about 400 dollars...there tons of barnacles where I am, and a geared prop was not a good idea
>
>
> If you want to save a few dollars, I have 1sX14 the original prop size. � My boat came with a totally awful fixed HUGE three blade prop
> I bought this one on ebay and it needs to be balanced ( I found this out after the boat was in the water, and ended up biting the bullet and buying a new one)
>
>
> This one is just slighly out of balance, but I was worried about a whole season so I changed it, I would sell it for less than what I paid and you could have martec or your local yard balance it.
>
>
> If money is not an issue, then go to martec. I can only say great things about them and their service
>
>
> JP
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2013, at 6:00 PM, mcclurejsteven@... wrote:
>
>
> �
>
> I had hull number 62 hauled last week to clean the bottom as we start racing next weekend and the yard advised that we must have stray current in the area as my prop was severely pitted and the anodes were gone. We put two on last summer. He said it was "pink" when he hauled it out.
>
> Any recommendations on replacement wheels? I have seen some posts where some are too much, but what is just right?
>
> Finoa, # 62
>

#694

From: "jhoagg123" <jhoagg123@...>
Date: Wed Mar 6, 2013 1:36 pm
Subject: Re: Recommended Propeller?

jhoagg123

Thanks guys.  I was tempted to try the hot lanolin, but since I had the Pettit 
zinc paint on hand I decided to try it.  I will let everyone know how this paint
seems to work keeping barnacles, etc. off  the prop later this year.

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, sailingmaster@... wrote:
>
> I would highly recommend the Petit products.
>
> I am in in an "extremely fertile" harbor and the growth is
> unbelievable.  The fist year I had my boat, I was hiring a diver every
> week to week and a half to get teh crap off the bottom and the shaft,
> i still do later in the season.
> I put on a healthy coat of Petit SR 90 ablative bottom paint last year
> and had almost nothing on the bottom untill September. (I am told that
> the bottom paint companies use my harbor to test new products...no
> joke, we have warm water from the incinerator and power plant, the
> local treatment plant recyles water into it, and there is an old land
> up river...sounds romantic huh!  LOL)
>
> JP
> On Mar 3, 2013, at 7:14 AM, jhoagg123 wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Anyone sailing in salt water found good ways to keep barnacles, etc.
> > off the prop and shaft? I'm going to try Pettit's zinc barnacle
> > barrier paint unless there is something better. Thanks.
> >
> > --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, J STEVEN MCCLURE wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > �
> > > Sounds like the way to go.�  $ 800 every 25 years isn't a bad deal.
> > > �
> > > S
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 3/1/13, sailingmaster@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: sailingmaster@
> > > Subject: Re: [J28Sailors] Recommended Propeller?
> > > To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Friday, March 1, 2013, 7:58 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > �
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > PS to my last
> > >
> > >
> > > The new Martec 16 X12 was about 800 plus shipping. I had it in 2
> > days from them standard UPS
> > >
> > >
> > > JP
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mar 1, 2013, at 8:51 PM, sailingmaster@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > �
> > >
> > > Call Gary at Martec.
> > >
> > >
> > > I think the original prob on the boat was a 16X14 and he
> > recommeded a16X12 and its perfect.
> > > My diesel spins up to 3400 rpm no problem, reverse is very good.
> > >
> > >
> > > there is very lttle prop walk if you accelerate slowly, but if u
> > rev the engine in reverse you get a nice amount,�
> > > My marina is pretty tight and with a combination of foreward and
> > reverse and rudder, i can spin the boat in a little over its own
> > length (cockwise)
> > >
> > >
> > > I priced out the gori and the martec was much cheaper, about 400
> > dollars...there tons of barnacles where I am, and a geared prop was
> > not a good idea
> > >
> > >
> > > If you want to save a few dollars, I have 1sX14 the original prop
> > size. � My boat came with a totally awful fixed HUGE three blade prop
> > > I bought this one on ebay and it needs to be balanced ( I found
> > this out after the boat was in the water, and ended up biting the
> > bullet and buying a new one)
> > >
> > >
> > > This one is just slighly out of balance, but I was worried about a
> > whole season so I changed it, I would sell it for less than what I
> > paid and you could have martec or your local yard balance it.
> > >
> > >
> > > If money is not an issue, then go to martec. I can only say great
> > things about them and their service
> > >
> > >
> > > JP
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mar 1, 2013, at 6:00 PM, mcclurejsteven@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > �
> > >
> > > I had hull number 62 hauled last week to clean the bottom as we
> > start racing next weekend and the yard advised that we must have
> > stray current in the area as my prop was severely pitted and the
> > anodes were gone. We put two on last summer. He said it was "pink"
> > when he hauled it out.
> > >
> > > Any recommendations on replacement wheels? I have seen some posts
> > where some are too much, but what is just right?
> > >
> > > Finoa, # 62
> > >
> >
> >
>

#695

From: "John" <sailingmaster@...>
Date: Thu Mar 7, 2013 11:50 am
Subject: Questions for the group

thistle4002

Hello all

Anxiously awaiting spring here and in full speed mode to make some repairs and
get the boat cleaned up for launch in mid april... assuming it will stop snowing
in CT at somepoint.

First question, has anyone here done any re-core of their decks, specifically at
the chainplate.
My sureveyor thought my decks were showing moisture from the chainplates to the
cockpit.

Bad news is a lot of SOAKED rotted core, around the stb chainplate and a litte
on the port side
but the rest of the deck is bone dry.  I have the hanging locker out and am
GOING IN, from underneath.  Does anyone know what thickness the balsa to use?
and tips or advice for refinishing the ceiling after this is done?  The repair
is going much quicker and easier than I thought...just trying to gather as much
info from anyone that has done this. David Hastings did this repair on his boat
and has a lot of good ideas i can forward if anyone else is "in the same boat"
as me  :)

Second question, Any good advice re removing old 4200 from the fasteners and
deck before I re bed the the hardware?

Third question. The preovious owners used Cetol on the wood work, I have to
admit that for the past two years I have not had time to keep it up so its time
to strip off and start over.  I hate the chem strippers to begin with and since
the deck is opened up and drying the use of water etc is out of the question at
the moment....any thoughts

Thinks spring....some day ill get a new genoa!

JP

#696

From: "jhoagg123" <jhoagg123@...>
Date: Fri Mar 8, 2013 12:02 pm
Subject: Re: Questions for the group

jhoagg123

John,
Can't help with the first two questions, but on the third:   you might think
about trying a heat gun and sharp scraper.  I have read if you are careful with
the heat gun (not to burn the wood), this can be  good way to remove the old
finish.  I am going to try it on my exterior teak.

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "John" <sailingmaster@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all
>
> Anxiously awaiting spring here and in full speed mode to make some repairs and
get the boat cleaned up for launch in mid april... assuming it will stop snowing
in CT at somepoint.
>
> First question, has anyone here done any re-core of their decks, specifically
at the chainplate.
> My sureveyor thought my decks were showing moisture from the chainplates to
the cockpit.
>
> Bad news is a lot of SOAKED rotted core, around the stb chainplate and a litte
on the port side
> but the rest of the deck is bone dry.  I have the hanging locker out and am
GOING IN, from underneath.  Does anyone know what thickness the balsa to use?
and tips or advice for refinishing the ceiling after this is done?  The repair
is going much quicker and easier than I thought...just trying to gather as much
info from anyone that has done this. David Hastings did this repair on his boat
and has a lot of good ideas i can forward if anyone else is "in the same boat"
as me  :)
>
> Second question, Any good advice re removing old 4200 from the fasteners and
deck before I re bed the the hardware?
>
> Third question. The preovious owners used Cetol on the wood work, I have to
admit that for the past two years I have not had time to keep it up so its time
to strip off and start over.  I hate the chem strippers to begin with and since
the deck is opened up and drying the use of water etc is out of the question at
the moment....any thoughts
>
> Thinks spring....some day ill get a new genoa!
>
> JP
>

#697

From: "jhoagg123" <jhoagg123@...>
Date: Fri Mar 8, 2013 12:15 pm
Subject: Re: Questions for the group

jhoagg123

BTW - I just posted pictures of my boat (Hull #25 - rechristened "Akula").  Her
factory gelcoat color is medium grey (with red gelcoat boot and cove stripes). 
The hull was heavily oxidized when I bought the boat, and I just spent days wet
sanding, compounding and polishing the gelcoat.  I learned a lot in the process,
so if anyone has this type of project coming up, I might have some helpful tips.



--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "jhoagg123" <jhoagg123@...> wrote:
>
> John,
> Can't help with the first two questions, but on the third:   you might think
about trying a heat gun and sharp scraper.  I have read if you are careful with
the heat gun (not to burn the wood), this can be  good way to remove the old
finish.  I am going to try it on my exterior teak.
>
> --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "John" <sailingmaster@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all
> >
> > Anxiously awaiting spring here and in full speed mode to make some repairs
and get the boat cleaned up for launch in mid april... assuming it will stop
snowing in CT at somepoint.
> >
> > First question, has anyone here done any re-core of their decks,
specifically at the chainplate.
> > My sureveyor thought my decks were showing moisture from the chainplates to
the cockpit.
> >
> > Bad news is a lot of SOAKED rotted core, around the stb chainplate and a
litte on the port side
> > but the rest of the deck is bone dry.  I have the hanging locker out and am
GOING IN, from underneath.  Does anyone know what thickness the balsa to use?
and tips or advice for refinishing the ceiling after this is done?  The repair
is going much quicker and easier than I thought...just trying to gather as much
info from anyone that has done this. David Hastings did this repair on his boat
and has a lot of good ideas i can forward if anyone else is "in the same boat"
as me  :)
> >
> > Second question, Any good advice re removing old 4200 from the fasteners and
deck before I re bed the the hardware?
> >
> > Third question. The preovious owners used Cetol on the wood work, I have to
admit that for the past two years I have not had time to keep it up so its time
to strip off and start over.  I hate the chem strippers to begin with and since
the deck is opened up and drying the use of water etc is out of the question at
the moment....any thoughts
> >
> > Thinks spring....some day ill get a new genoa!
> >
> > JP
> >
>

#698

From: hansandsharon@...
Date: Fri Mar 8, 2013 4:32 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Questions for the group

andersenhans15

Hi John,

I have used CETOL on my Boats and still using it on My J28, I use sandpaper and on top I can use an electric sander

Then two coats of new CETOL after a season I just brush on some on the top and it works well for about 3 years

in my climate on Lake StClair Michigan area

Good luck, let us know how you make our with all of it

Hans

J28

"Last Dance"

---- Original Message ----
From: jhoagg123 <jhoagg123@...>
To: J28Sailors <J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Mar 8, 2013 7:02 am
Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Questions for the group

John,
Can't help with the first two questions, but on the third: you might think about trying a heat gun and sharp scraper. I have read if you are careful with the heat gun (not to burn the wood), this can be good way to remove the old finish. I am going to try it on my exterior teak.

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "John" <sailingmaster@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all
>
> Anxiously awaiting spring here and in full speed mode to make some repairs and get the boat cleaned up for launch in mid april... assuming it will stop snowing in CT at somepoint.
>
> First question, has anyone here done any re-core of their decks, specifically at the chainplate.
> My sureveyor thought my decks were showing moisture from the chainplates to the cockpit.
>
> Bad news is a lot of SOAKED rotted core, around the stb chainplate and a litte on the port side
> but the rest of the deck is bone dry. I have the hanging locker out and am GOING IN, from underneath. Does anyone know what thickness the balsa to use? and tips or advice for refinishing the ceiling after this is done? The repair is going much quicker and easier than I thought...just trying to gather as much info from anyone that has done this. David Hastings did this repair on his boat and has a lot of good ideas i can forward if anyone else is "in the same boat" as me :)
>
> Second question, Any good advice re removing old 4200 from the fasteners and deck before I re bed the the hardware?
>
> Third question. The preovious owners used Cetol on the wood work, I have to admit that for the past two years I have not had time to keep it up so its time to strip off and start over. I hate the chem strippers to begin with and since the deck is opened up and drying the use of water etc is out of the question at the moment....any thoughts
>
> Thinks spring....some day ill get a new genoa!
>
> JP
>

#699

From: David Hastings <david.hastings@...>
Date: Fri Mar 8, 2013 5:49 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Questions for the group

davidhasting...

I've always used Semco teak sealer on my top sides. It's easy to apply and maintain as it has no oil but it does require a couple of applications per season.

Sent from my iPad

David L. Hastings

5608 W. Woodside Dr.

Crystal River, FL 34429

Home: 352-794-6440

Cell: 315-345-2078

On Mar 8, 2013, at 11:32 AM, hansandsharon@... wrote:

Hi John,

I have used CETOL on my Boats and still using it on My J28, I use sandpaper and on top I can use an electric sander

Then two coats of new CETOL after a season I just brush on some on the top and it works well for about 3 years

in my climate on Lake StClair Michigan area

Good luck, let us know how you make our with all of it

Hans

J28

"Last Dance"

---- Original Message ----
From: jhoagg123 <jhoagg123@...>
To: J28Sailors <J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Mar 8, 2013 7:02 am
Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Questions for the group

John,
Can't help with the first two questions, but on the third: you might think about trying a heat gun and sharp scraper. I have read if you are careful with the heat gun (not to burn the wood), this can be good way to remove the old finish. I am going to try it on my exterior teak.

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "John" <sailingmaster@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all
>
> Anxiously awaiting spring here and in full speed mode to make some repairs and get the boat cleaned up for launch in mid april... assuming it will stop snowing in CT at somepoint.
>
> First question, has anyone here done any re-core of their decks, specifically at the chainplate.
> My sureveyor thought my decks were showing moisture from the chainplates to the cockpit.
>
> Bad news is a lot of SOAKED rotted core, around the stb chainplate and a litte on the port side
> but the rest of the deck is bone dry. I have the hanging locker out and am GOING IN, from underneath. Does anyone know what thickness the balsa to use? and tips or advice for refinishing the ceiling after this is done? The repair is going much quicker and easier than I thought...just trying to gather as much info from anyone that has done this. David Hastings did this repair on his boat and has a lot of good ideas i can forward if anyone else is "in the same boat" as me :)
>
> Second question, Any good advice re removing old 4200 from the fasteners and deck before I re bed the the hardware?
>
> Third question. The preovious owners used Cetol on the wood work, I have to admit that for the past two years I have not had time to keep it up so its time to strip off and start over. I hate the chem strippers to begin with and since the deck is opened up and drying the use of water etc is out of the question at the moment....any thoughts
>
> Thinks spring....some day ill get a new genoa!
>
> JP
>

____________________________________________________________
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#700

From: sailingmaster@...
Date: Fri Mar 8, 2013 6:02 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Questions for the group

thistle4002

I LIKE SIMPLE TEAK OIL FOR THE WASE OF USE AND CLEAN UP....MY QUESTION IS MORE HOW TO GET THE OLD STUFF OFF WITH MINIMAL MESS AND EFFORT

(MAYBE IM DREAMING AND SHOULD JUST GET OUT THE SANDPAPER....LOL)

On Mar 8, 2013, at 12:49 PM, David Hastings wrote:

I've always used Semco teak sealer on my top sides. It's easy to apply and maintain as it has no oil but it does require a couple of applications per season.

Sent from my iPad

David L. Hastings
5608 W. Woodside Dr.
Crystal River, FL 34429
Home: 352-794-6440
Cell: 315-345-2078

On Mar 8, 2013, at 11:32 AM, hansandsharon@... wrote:

Hi John,

I have used CETOL on my Boats and still using it on My J28, I use sandpaper and on top I can use an electric sander

Then two coats of new CETOL after a season I just brush on some on the top and it works well for about 3 years

in my climate on Lake StClair Michigan area

Good luck, let us know how you make our with all of it

Hans

J28

"Last Dance"

---- Original Message ----
From: jhoagg123 <jhoagg123@...>
To: J28Sailors <J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Mar 8, 2013 7:02 am
Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Questions for the group

John,
Can't help with the first two questions, but on the third: you might think about trying a heat gun and sharp scraper. I have read if you are careful with the heat gun (not to burn the wood), this can be good way to remove the old finish. I am going to try it on my exterior teak.

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "John" <sailingmaster@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all
>
> Anxiously awaiting spring here and in full speed mode to make some repairs and get the boat cleaned up for launch in mid april... assuming it will stop snowing in CT at somepoint.
>
> First question, has anyone here done any re-core of their decks, specifically at the chainplate.
> My sureveyor thought my decks were showing moisture from the chainplates to the cockpit.
>
> Bad news is a lot of SOAKED rotted core, around the stb chainplate and a litte on the port side
> but the rest of the deck is bone dry. I have the hanging locker out and am GOING IN, from underneath. Does anyone know what thickness the balsa to use? and tips or advice for refinishing the ceiling after this is done? The repair is going much quicker and easier than I thought...just trying to gather as much info from anyone that has done this. David Hastings did this repair on his boat and has a lot of good ideas i can forward if anyone else is "in the same boat" as me :)
>
> Second question, Any good advice re removing old 4200 from the fasteners and deck before I re bed the the hardware?
>
> Third question. The preovious owners used Cetol on the wood work, I have to admit that for the past two years I have not had time to keep it up so its time to strip off and start over. I hate the chem strippers to begin with and since the deck is opened up and drying the use of water etc is out of the question at the moment....any thoughts
>
> Thinks spring....some day ill get a new genoa!
>
> JP
>

____________________________________________________________
"How To Get More Muscle"
Spikes Muscle Growth 6% in 10 Days -- But Is It an Unfair Advantage?
HLifestyles.com

#701

From: "William Kellett" <w.kellett@...>
Date: Fri Mar 8, 2013 6:24 pm
Subject: Cleaning Teak

kellett51

Google “cleaning mildew from teak”. You will get lots of options. One that looks good is a product sold by “Marine Store” It’s a product called Teak Guard. Looks like it might be an easy solution. However the Google response give you a number of others as well.

Bill

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#702

From: Frank Francis <frank@...>
Date: Fri Mar 8, 2013 7:57 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Questions for the group

flfrancis77

Use a heat gun and peel it off. It can burn the wood if you're not careful. Sanding takes wood off with it. The heat gun worked great on my Cape Dory, and she had a lot of teak!

Frank

On Mar 8, 2013, at 12:02 PM, sailingmaster@... wrote:

I LIKE SIMPLE TEAK OIL FOR THE WASE OF USE AND CLEAN UP....MY QUESTION IS MORE HOW TO GET THE OLD STUFF OFF WITH MINIMAL MESS AND EFFORT
(MAYBE IM DREAMING AND SHOULD JUST GET OUT THE SANDPAPER....LOL)

J
On Mar 8, 2013, at 12:49 PM, David Hastings wrote:

I've always used Semco teak sealer on my top sides. It's easy to apply and maintain as it has no oil but it does require a couple of applications per season.

Sent from my iPad

David L. Hastings
5608 W. Woodside Dr.
Crystal River, FL 34429
Home: 352-794-6440
Cell: 315-345-2078

On Mar 8, 2013, at 11:32 AM, hansandsharon@... wrote:

Hi John,

I have used CETOL on my Boats and still using it on My J28, I use sandpaper and on top I can use an electric sander

Then two coats of new CETOL after a season I just brush on some on the top and it works well for about 3 years

in my climate on Lake StClair Michigan area

Good luck, let us know how you make our with all of it

Hans

J28

"Last Dance"

---- Original Message ----
From: jhoagg123 <jhoagg123@...>
To: J28Sailors <J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Mar 8, 2013 7:02 am
Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Questions for the group

John,
Can't help with the first two questions, but on the third: you might think about trying a heat gun and sharp scraper. I have read if you are careful with the heat gun (not to burn the wood), this can be good way to remove the old finish. I am going to try it on my exterior teak.

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "John" <sailingmaster@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all
>
> Anxiously awaiting spring here and in full speed mode to make some repairs and get the boat cleaned up for launch in mid april... assuming it will stop snowing in CT at somepoint.
>
> First question, has anyone here done any re-core of their decks, specifically at the chainplate.
> My sureveyor thought my decks were showing moisture from the chainplates to the cockpit.
>
> Bad news is a lot of SOAKED rotted core, around the stb chainplate and a litte on the port side
> but the rest of the deck is bone dry. I have the hanging locker out and am GOING IN, from underneath. Does anyone know what thickness the balsa to use? and tips or advice for refinishing the ceiling after this is done? The repair is going much quicker and easier than I thought...just trying to gather as much info from anyone that has done this. David Hastings did this repair on his boat and has a lot of good ideas i can forward if anyone else is "in the same boat" as me :)
>
> Second question, Any good advice re removing old 4200 from the fasteners and deck before I re bed the the hardware?
>
> Third question. The preovious owners used Cetol on the wood work, I have to admit that for the past two years I have not had time to keep it up so its time to strip off and start over. I hate the chem strippers to begin with and since the deck is opened up and drying the use of water etc is out of the question at the moment....any thoughts
>
> Thinks spring....some day ill get a new genoa!
>
> JP
>

____________________________________________________________
"How To Get More Muscle"
Spikes Muscle Growth 6% in 10 Days -- But Is It an Unfair Advantage?
HLifestyles.com

#703

From: "mcclurejsteven@..." <mcclurejsteven@...>
Date: Sat Mar 9, 2013 3:50 am
Subject: Re: Bimini / HVAC

mcclurejstev...