Has anyone used the CompuKeel templates for fairing the keel?

Thanks,

Roy

Anybody have an extra spinnaker pole for a J28 measuring 10' 6" with a diameter
of 2 1/2"?

The pin on the end fitting of our spinnaker pole is frozen and WD 40 was not
able to loosen it up due the apparent internal corrosion.

If blasting it with heat does not loosen it up it will require drilling out the
rivets and putting on a new end fitting.

As such, I would be interested if anybody (New England area) in the group has an
extra spinnaker pole they want to sell even if its not exact size of the J28.






Phil

Phil, If your pole is like mine you an soak the end in wd-40 and tap it open
thru the end. I have to do this to my pole twice a year. This winter I'll be
taking it apart and fixing it.

  John

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "J. Smith" <jason3317@...> wrote:
>
> Phil, try PB blaster by itself (soak overnight), then maybe a little bit of
heat + pb for capilary action.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Philip" <philipstathos@...>
> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:21:05
> To: <J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [J28Sailors] J28 Spinnaker Pole
>
> Anybody have an extra spinnaker pole for a J28 measuring 10' 6" with a
diameter of 2 1/2"?
>
> The pin on the end fitting of our spinnaker pole is frozen and WD 40 was not
able to loosen it up due the apparent internal corrosion.
>
> If blasting it with heat does not loosen it up it will require drilling out
the rivets and putting on a new end fitting.
>
> As such, I would be interested if anybody (New England area) in the group has
an extra spinnaker pole they want to sell even if its not exact size of the J28.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Phil
>

Oh, and there is a pin the holds the lock pin  in the jaw. Drive that pin out
and you can take the lock apart. No need to drill the rivits out and remove the
whole jaw assembly.

John

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jfws88@...> wrote:
>
> Phil, If your pole is like mine you an soak the end in wd-40 and tap it open
thru the end. I have to do this to my pole twice a year. This winter I'll be
taking it apart and fixing it.
>
>  John
>
> --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "J. Smith" <jason3317@> wrote:
> >
> > Phil, try PB blaster by itself (soak overnight), then maybe a little bit of
heat + pb for capilary action.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Philip" <philipstathos@>
> > Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:21:05
> > To: <J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [J28Sailors] J28 Spinnaker Pole
> >
> > Anybody have an extra spinnaker pole for a J28 measuring 10' 6" with a
diameter of 2 1/2"?
> >
> > The pin on the end fitting of our spinnaker pole is frozen and WD 40 was not
able to loosen it up due the apparent internal corrosion.
> >
> > If blasting it with heat does not loosen it up it will require drilling out
the rivets and putting on a new end fitting.
> >
> > As such, I would be interested if anybody (New England area) in the group
has an extra spinnaker pole they want to sell even if its not exact size of the
J28.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Phil
> >
>

Yahoo took the whole file so manual is now available.

Roy
#29

Well happy New Year!

The surveyor recommended I replace the backstay. Does the standard setup work
OK, or would upgrading to something like cascading blocks be better? I'm asking
because, I wasn't completely happy with the setup on the Colgate which is nearly
identical to the J28 except the Colgate mast isn't tapered.

Thanks,

Roy
#29

I noticed the rudder position freezes when it gets cold, is this normal? Seems
like it shouldn't do that. Maybe there isn't enough grease on the bearing?

Also, has anyone had any luck draining the water out of the rudder? I drilled 2
holes in the bottom, but wasn't sure if I drilled up far enough, though I did
hit moisture in one hole, and of course, it has been just a bit cold here in NH
since we got the boat, so any water is probably frozen. I used a standard 1/4"
bit, so I might has drilled up 3".

It did get to 57 degrees under the clear cover we have over the boat last Sunday
morning when it was about 20 outside. The crew got to see the boat and we had
champagne and strawberries.

Roy

It may also be moisure in the packing material if it is older.  Also, check the
cover over the top of the rudder post.  If it leaks, the water can drop down on
the steering pully, into the area above the rudder packing, and even run down
the cables.  I found water on top of my water heater and above the packing after
it was replaced.  I traced it back to a leak at the cover.

Bruce

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, Jason Smith <jason3317@...> wrote:
>
> Hmmm...Maybe the lower rudder bearing is water saturated (Delrin can absorb
> water), freezing and expanding ever so slightly; therby preventing the easy
> movement.
>
> If you have grease fittings, you could try adding a couple pumps of marine
> grease to the rudder bearings.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Roy Briscoe <roysail@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > When the temp gets above freezing, the wheel/rudder turn.
> >
> > Roy
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> > From: jason3317@...
> > Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:50:18 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [J28Sailors] Rudder post freezing
> >
> >
> >
> >  Probably not, but are you sure it's the actual bearing that is preventing
> > the movement?  Could it be the Edson pedestal or wire or something prior to
> > the quadrant?  Are you sure the wheel brake is not applied?
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 8:18 AM, roysail3 <roysail@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I noticed the rudder position freezes when it gets cold, is this normal?
> > Seems like it shouldn't do that. Maybe there isn't enough grease on the
> > bearing?
> >
> > Also, has anyone had any luck draining the water out of the rudder? I
> > drilled 2 holes in the bottom, but wasn't sure if I drilled up far enough,
> > though I did hit moisture in one hole, and of course, it has been just a bit
> > cold here in NH since we got the boat, so any water is probably frozen. I
> > used a standard 1/4" bit, so I might has drilled up 3".
> >
> > It did get to 57 degrees under the clear cover we have over the boat last
> > Sunday morning when it was about 20 outside. The crew got to see the boat
> > and we had champagne and strawberries.
> >
> > Roy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Hi,
I just joined the group.  The J28 that you saw at the wall was mine.  The boats
name is "Matangi", and I currently sail out of Southold, New York.  I have owned
the boat for 2years and love it.  Don't ask me what the name means, it was named
by the prior owner.  I am superstitious and was afraid to change the name.
The trip to Oak Bluffs was a rough one.  Myself and 2 friends (one a sailing
instructor with much more experience then me) sailed from the north fork of Long
Island to Block Island without radar in the fog.  We ended up doing a temprorary
install of a radar while in route.  OUr next leg from Block Island to Oak Bluffs
was tougher on the crew then the boat.  We had 10 foot swells between Block and
the Vineyard.  The only concern we had was some water in the Bolge due to a
poorly packed prop shaft.  This was not a big deal, but I was somewhat concerned
when taking on water while being so far from land.
The trip back was easier, since we chose to do a much more protected route
through Buzzard's Bay to Point Judith and then home.
Overall, the boat handles great.  It is also incredibly fast.
I look forward to hearing from other J28 owners, and I am thriled that this
group was formed.

John

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "jfws88" <jfws88@...> wrote:
>
> I was riding my bike around Oak bluffs this weekend and came across another
J28 tied to the wall. The owner wasn't aboard and I couldn't read the name but I
think it was from NY. I had to catch the ferry back to RI and couldn't hang
around. Was it anyone on the here?
>
>  John
>

Welcome aboard John,  Mistery solved.

I sail out of narragansett bay and go out to Bi and Cuttyhunk a few times a
year. I would've had my boat out on the vineyard that week aslo but the
"admiral" insisted we take the ferry out.

Lot's of good info on this site.

John W.

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "gugliottalaw" <gugliottalaw@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi,
> I just joined the group.  The J28 that you saw at the wall was mine.  The
boats name is "Matangi", and I currently sail out of Southold, New York.  I have
owned the boat for 2years and love it.  Don't ask me what the name means, it was
named by the prior owner.  I am superstitious and was afraid to change the name.
> The trip to Oak Bluffs was a rough one.  Myself and 2 friends (one a sailing
instructor with much more experience then me) sailed from the north fork of Long
Island to Block Island without radar in the fog.  We ended up doing a temprorary
install of a radar while in route.  OUr next leg from Block Island to Oak Bluffs
was tougher on the crew then the boat.  We had 10 foot swells between Block and
the Vineyard.  The only concern we had was some water in the Bolge due to a
poorly packed prop shaft.  This was not a big deal, but I was somewhat concerned
when taking on water while being so far from land.
> The trip back was easier, since we chose to do a much more protected route
through Buzzard's Bay to Point Judith and then home.
> Overall, the boat handles great.  It is also incredibly fast.
> I look forward to hearing from other J28 owners, and I am thriled that this
group was formed.
>
> John
>
> --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "jfws88" <jfws88@> wrote:
> >
> > I was riding my bike around Oak bluffs this weekend and came across another
J28 tied to the wall. The owner wasn't aboard and I couldn't read the name but I
think it was from NY. I had to catch the ferry back to RI and couldn't hang
around. Was it anyone on the here?
> >
> >  John
> >
>

To All,

I was reviewing this site and realized that we have 33 members representing 31
J28's. That's pretty good considering the site has been up for less than a year
and there were only 71 boats built 22 years ago.

I'd love to see what hull numbers we have. I inserted an excel file in the file
shareing page and it woud be great if everyone could go on put their information
in.

Hi John,

Good idea, but the file is read only for the rest of us (or at least me), so we
can't edit it.

If you can change it (since you posted it, hopefully you can) my info is
Hull #71, Boat Name - Evangeline II, Name - Kurt Bianculli, Hail Port -
Marblehead, MA

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jfws88@...> wrote:
>
> To All,
>
> I was reviewing this site and realized that we have 33 members representing 31
J28's. That's pretty good considering the site has been up for less than a year
and there were only 71 boats built 22 years ago.
>
> I'd love to see what hull numbers we have. I inserted an excel file in the
file shareing page and it woud be great if everyone could go on put their
information in.
>

Hi all
           A lil intro.....I've been sailing since 1977 and owned several boats.
Some sailed well...others not so well. My wife and I are considering a cruise
through the Bahamas, Aboacos S thru the Exumas, W to Cuba, then on to Jamaica,
San Andres and finally San Blas islands before heading home. In considering a
boat we hoped for modest size with a nice cruisable interior and some speed. A
friend suggested I look at J28's and after viewing some listing pics...I think
this would really suit.
         I noticed that shallow draft was an option. Were many produced with the
optional keel? If so, how many? The only hold back would be the 5ft draft and if
there was one with the shoal draft keel available...I think we found the near
perfect boat.
         Any comments on this, known weakness's, cruising mods etc would be
appreciated.

PS...if you own a shoal draft version and have considered selling...let me know

If you know a friend with one...let him know

if you know a friend of a friend.....  ;-)

Please pass this on to potential sellers      Reply here  Thanks  Frank or
my e-mail

Thanks for the idea. I'd not thought of a keel mod.Being from Canada, I knew of
a company there that did it but transport costs would rule that out.One concern
I had was rudder depth. I 'assumed' the shoal keel would have a redesigned
rudder of less draft as well.
  As to budjet...these boats seem to go between $37-40,000 range depending on
condition and inventory. I have specific canvass ideas and as to sails...it
would depend on what the boat came with and age of the sails.
  I have cruised from Charleston SC on through the keys over to Bimini and all
through the Abacos from Walkers on down to Pete's Pub several times.(11 gulf
stream crossings) What impressed me about the J 28 was the cruising type
interior with potential for speed. Throw in the shoal keel and it would seem a
near perfect lil cruiser.

Thanks for your thoughts and concerns Jason.We are 'minimilist' cruisers. One
cruise was on a 1960 Pearson Ariel 26 I restored, then a Flicka 20 and now a
Compac 25. Size is fine. Speed would be great  ;-)
  While I've never sailed one...they are not a 'super light' racer and I 'think'
if properly reefed...could handle themselves well. The trip I propose has
several 20 to 60 hour crossings...all within a decent forcast window. All 3
boats mentioned had 20 or 25 gallon water tanks. The J would seem huge ;-) I
have sun shades made with a hose bib to fill tanks during rain. A pump-up shower
uses far less water than a pressure unit. These are fairly easy things to work
around.
  I always wish for more speed during any crossing. This is where I feel the J 28
would be a great boat.

Plan B, I added the table in the database everyone should be able in to input
there.

I couldn't edit the spreadsheet either.

John

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "J. Smith" <jason3317@...> wrote:
>
> I wasn't able to edit as well. John, if you are not able to manage the excel
file...I can do it for you.
>
> #69
> Compass Rose
> Charleston, SC
> Jason Smith
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Kurt" <kbianculli@...>
> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:00:38
> To: <J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Hull #'s
>
> Hi John,
>
> Good idea, but the file is read only for the rest of us (or at least me), so
we can't edit it.
>
> If you can change it (since you posted it, hopefully you can) my info is
> Hull #71, Boat Name - Evangeline II, Name - Kurt Bianculli, Hail Port -
Marblehead, MA
>
> --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jfws88@> wrote:
> >
> > To All,
> >
> > I was reviewing this site and realized that we have 33 members representing
31 J28's. That's pretty good considering the site has been up for less than a
year and there were only 71 boats built 22 years ago.
> >
> > I'd love to see what hull numbers we have. I inserted an excel file in the
file shareing page and it woud be great if everyone could go on put their
information in.
> >
>