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#163 From: "Lenny" <lsreich@...>
Date: Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:54 am
Subject: Re: Annapolis Boat Show
lenny_reich
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Jason:  How was the boat show?  I was hoping to make it down, but life (in the
form of various obligations) got in the way.  I have been to the Annapolis
sailboat show two or three times -- it's really great if the crowds don't get in
the way.  Lenny

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, Jason Smith <jason3317@...> wrote:
>
> Who is planning on attending the show?  If there is enough owners
> going, maybe we can all get together for lunch on Saturday.
>
> Jason
>

#164 From: jason3317@...
Date: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:54 am
Subject: Re: Re: Annapolis Boat Show
jason3317_04
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The show was good. Got to talk extensively with Alan Rod Johnstone, more than in past years. The J/95 is nice, but let me tell you guys, there is no way you're going to use the head in any conditions except calm. There is seriously thin headroom in this thing. The /97 is equally nice and very racy...being optimized for IRC. It will never happen, but a wheel steering option would be nice for the US. Did not like the non-skid on either, it being the sandpaper rough finish, a la Catalina. What happened to the diamond tread pattern? They had an illustration of the new J/111 just announced...pretty cool looking...but I bet it will be big $$$.

Probably the biggest unofficial news is that Rod seems to really want to do a 40 cruiser using the /95 hull form....possibly with a keel / centerboad, but definitely w the twin rudder config he designed. Hopefully, by cruiser, they mean a bit more wood and standing headroom. We shall see. Would not expect an announcement before this time next year.

There were no Sabres, other than 386 from brokerage....crazy...they lost their spot in Ego Alley...been there for years. The Friendship 75 ft cat was unbeleivably big.

Got a really good price from Evolution sails for a new 120% carbon/aramid string sail.

Otherwise, a good show, no money spent besides for Fleet Reserve pit beef sammies.

All the best.

Jason

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


From: "Lenny" <lsreich@...>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:54:30 -0000
To: <J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Annapolis Boat Show

 

Jason: How was the boat show? I was hoping to make it down, but life (in the form of various obligations) got in the way. I have been to the Annapolis sailboat show two or three times -- it's really great if the crowds don't get in the way. Lenny

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, Jason Smith <jason3317@...> wrote:
>
> Who is planning on attending the show? If there is enough owners
> going, maybe we can all get together for lunch on Saturday.
>
> Jason
>


#165 From: "John" <jfws88@...>
Date: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:59 pm
Subject: Great ride
jfws88
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Sorry guys but I have to take a minute to pound my chest.

We had a great race from Newport RI to Block Island last weekend.
22.2 nmiles in just under 3.5 hours. Finished 7th in a fleet of 35 That what you
can do with 18-25 knots winds on the beam the whole way out. It was a blast. And
it was the first time I got my wife to sail out to Block with me (two other crew
members)

#166 From: "andersenhans15" <hansandsharon@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:31 pm
Subject: Re: Jason's rudder problems
andersenhans15
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--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "Lenny Reich" <lsreich@...> wrote:
>
> From John --
> > Jason Smith and I are both at about the same spot in a rubber bearing
replacement you should check it out. Jason has taken some great pictures of the
process.
> >
http://www.sailnet.com/forums/gear-maintenance/53478-rudder-bearing-info-j-28-a.\
html
>
>
> That's all very interesting.  Great photos, Jason.
>
> Jason -- For those of us not yet experiencing play in the rudder bearing, do
you still recommend hitting both of the zerk fittings with grease in the spring?
>
> Thanks for your input -- Lenny
>

#167 From: "andersenhans15" <hansandsharon@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:35 pm
Subject: Re: Jason's rudder problems How much play in the rudder and post is ac
andersenhans15
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--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "andersenhans15" <hansandsharon@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "Lenny Reich" <lsreich@> wrote:
> >
> > From John --
> > > Jason Smith and I are both at about the same spot in a rubber bearing
replacement you should check it out. Jason has taken some great pictures of the
process.
> > >
http://www.sailnet.com/forums/gear-maintenance/53478-rudder-bearing-info-j-28-a.\
html
> >
> >
> > That's all very interesting.  Great photos, Jason.
> >
> > Jason -- For those of us not yet experiencing play in the rudder bearing, do
you still recommend hitting both of the zerk fittings with grease in the spring?
> >
> > Thanks for your input -- Lenny
> >
>

#168 From: "andersenhans15" <hansandsharon@...>
Date: Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:41 pm
Subject: Moving batteries forward
andersenhans15
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Did you have to install longer battery cables or could you splice in longer
pieces?
I am considering moving my two batteries next spring, the boat is on the dry now
and it is getting cold here in southern ontario.
How much play is ok as far as you know in the Rudder?
Hanas.

#169 From: "John" <jfws88@...>
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 11:42 am
Subject: Re: Moving batteries forward
jfws88
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Hanas,

The battery cables are shorter now, no need to splice. I'll get picture of my
batery box this week end.

I still have some play in the rudder but it isn't bad.

John

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "andersenhans15" <hansandsharon@...> wrote:
>
> Did you have to install longer battery cables or could you splice in longer
pieces?
> I am considering moving my two batteries next spring, the boat is on the dry
now and it is getting cold here in southern ontario.
> How much play is ok as far as you know in the Rudder?
> Hanas.
>

#170 From: "Lenny" <lsreich@...>
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 8:49 pm
Subject: Re: Moving batteries forward
lenny_reich
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Hans: What do you mean by play in the rudder -- the shaft wobbling in the
bearing, or slack in the cables so that the wheel turns a bit before the rudder
starts to move?  The latter is easily corrected by taking up on the steering
cable turnbuckles accessible through the seat lockers, the former is, I gather,
a lot harder to fix. Lenny


> >
> > Did you have to install longer battery cables or could you splice in longer
pieces?
> > I am considering moving my two batteries next spring, the boat is on the dry
now and it is getting cold here in southern ontario.
> > How much play is ok as far as you know in the Rudder?
> > Hanas.
> >
>

#171 From: Jason Smith <jason3317@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 1:17 pm
Subject: Re: Moving batteries forward
jason3317_04
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Hans:
You really need to run single cables in this application.  Every cut/splice will add resistance and voltage drop.  Remember, you should achieve no more than 3-5% voltage drop and should size cables to that spec.
 
On the rudder:  Any side to side play greater than 1/4-1/2" indicates further inpsection of the bearing is required.  To estimate play, with the boat out of the water, grasp the rudder blade towards the bottom and try to move the rudder back and forth athwartships.
 
Jason

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:41 PM, andersenhans15 <hansandsharon@...> wrote:
 

Did you have to install longer battery cables or could you splice in longer pieces?
I am considering moving my two batteries next spring, the boat is on the dry now and it is getting cold here in southern ontario.
How much play is ok as far as you know in the Rudder?
Hanas.



#172 From: "Marc" <j28_59@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:47 am
Subject: Over power
j28_59
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Sorry for the late response to this thread, but I have just joined the
group.  I was having a similar issue when I bought my J/28 a couple of
years ago.  I replaced my original Martec folding prop with a new one
last year.  I was advised by Gary at Martec that the 14" pitch was too
much for my Yanmar and he recommended the 16 X 12 for a folding prop.  I
can now run the Yanmar up to 3400 or 3600 rpm and my J/28 will go 7.25
knots.   I don't cruise at this engine speed but it's good to have the
speed if I need to get out of the way of a ferry or tug boat.  Maybe the
16 X 10 would match up better with the hull speed of the boat.  The
Yanmar 2GM20 really likes to run at the higher RPM (3400 all day).  I
experienced some vibration as well, but when I push throught the engine
speeds, 2500 to 3000, it goes away.  I think there is some resonance in
the hull at these RPMs.  There are certain RPMs that the boat and motor
like.  I have found and set the throttle on them right away.  For
example when I first start the motor I set the enging speed to 1250 or
1300 RPM.  The motor smoothes right out.

Let me know how things work out.

Cheers, Marc


--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, Jason Smith <jason3317@...> wrote:
>
> I am looking for some subjective help from the group. Some of you may
> know, I have been chasing a big vibration while under power.
>
> To date, we have eliminated or corrected all the driveline components,
> including the prop, shaft, cutless bearing and associated couplings.
> My yard just finished replacing the motor mounts, as we could see the
> motor visibly rocking at certain RPM.
>
> After a 4 days cruise over Labor Day, I still think the problem
> remains. There is vibration from 1400-1900 RPM, smoothing out around
> 2400 RPM. Anything above 2600 RPM and the vibrations re-appear, and
> the engine to my ear sounds "Harsh" and not very happy. I
cannot
> reach 3400 RPM (only 3100), but I don't feel like there is a loss
of
> power, the motor starts immediately even when cold and nor do I see
> any obvious smoke, black or white. The hull and prop are clean. The
> prop is a fixed 2 blade Michigan 16 x 14 (not very racy, yes I know,
> but that's what I got). I realize these Yanmars will have an RPM
> range that they don't like, but this is too broad.
>
> Now, the yard wants to pull the injectors and test/clean/replace as
> necessary. They may also check the timing of the injector pump (not
> sure I want to go there as it's really a delicate high-tolerance
> piece).
>
> So, questions to the group: have you had these symptoms? Can you
> reach full rated RPM (3400) in calm wind and water? Have you ever had
> your injectors replaced or cleaned? If so, how many hours approx did
> they have on them? Have you ever had a problem with the injector
> pump? What RPM is your typical cruise RPM, and how does the boat
> perform?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Jason
>

#173 From: "roysail3" <roysail@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:13 pm
Subject: Racing Tips?
roysail3
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We are new to the group and have just about completed the process of moving from
a Colgate 26 (7 years) to a J28. The boat will be located on the Maine side of
the Maine/NH border in the Kittery/Portsmouth area. The reason for the upsizing?
There are just a few more luxuries on the J28 than the Colgate.

Are there any good sites or information around on how to setup the J28 for the
racing in the local PHRF fleet?

Has anyone outfitted their J28 with a masthead asymetrical?

Thanks,
Pat and Roy

#174 From: "j28sailor50" <misailor@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:35 pm
Subject: Re: Racing Tips?
j28sailor50
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Pat and Roy,

The upper shrouds on a J/28 attach to the mast just above the fractional fore
stay.  A mast head spinnaker would likely put too much lateral load on the upper
mast.  Look at the shrouds on a boat set up with a full rig (J/35).  The shrouds
on these boats go to the top of the mast.

Bruce

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "roysail3" <roysail@...> wrote:
>
> We are new to the group and have just about completed the process of moving
from a Colgate 26 (7 years) to a J28. The boat will be located on the Maine side
of the Maine/NH border in the Kittery/Portsmouth area. The reason for the
upsizing? There are just a few more luxuries on the J28 than the Colgate.
>
> Are there any good sites or information around on how to setup the J28 for the
racing in the local PHRF fleet?
>
> Has anyone outfitted their J28 with a masthead asymetrical?
>
> Thanks,
> Pat and Roy
>

#175 From: Roy Briscoe <roysail@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:40 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Racing Tips?
roysail3
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Thanks for the info. That's a good point.
 
Do you know what a good starting point is for shroud tension? On the Colgate is was 500 lbs. I raced on a J30 a bit this summer it was around 1000 lbs and up.
 
Roy
 

To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
From: misailor@...
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:35:25 +0000
Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Racing Tips?

 
Pat and Roy,

The upper shrouds on a J/28 attach to the mast just above the fractional fore stay. A mast head spinnaker would likely put too much lateral load on the upper mast. Look at the shrouds on a boat set up with a full rig (J/35). The shrouds on these boats go to the top of the mast.

Bruce

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "roysail3" <roysail@...> wrote:
>
> We are new to the group and have just about completed the process of moving from a Colgate 26 (7 years) to a J28. The boat will be located on the Maine side of the Maine/NH border in the Kittery/Portsmouth area. The reason for the upsizing? There are just a few more luxuries on the J28 than the Colgate.
>
> Are there any good sites or information around on how to setup the J28 for the racing in the local PHRF fleet?
>
> Has anyone outfitted their J28 with a masthead asymetrical?
>
> Thanks,
> Pat and Roy
>



#176 From: "John" <jfws88@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:30 am
Subject: Re: Racing Tips?
jfws88
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Roy, I race my boat all summer and set the rig up almost to the tuning guides
for the j30 the two rigs are very similar and it feels pretty good. I fly a used
j30 spinaker.

What hull # did you buy?

John

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, Roy Briscoe <roysail@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the info. That's a good point.
>
>
>
> Do you know what a good starting point is for shroud tension? On the Colgate
is was 500 lbs. I raced on a J30 a bit this summer it was around 1000 lbs and
up.
>
>
>
> Roy
>
>
>
> To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> From: misailor@...
> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:35:25 +0000
> Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Racing Tips?
>
>
>
>
>
> Pat and Roy,
>
> The upper shrouds on a J/28 attach to the mast just above the fractional fore
stay. A mast head spinnaker would likely put too much lateral load on the upper
mast. Look at the shrouds on a boat set up with a full rig (J/35). The shrouds
on these boats go to the top of the mast.
>
> Bruce
>
> --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "roysail3" <roysail@> wrote:
> >
> > We are new to the group and have just about completed the process of moving
from a Colgate 26 (7 years) to a J28. The boat will be located on the Maine side
of the Maine/NH border in the Kittery/Portsmouth area. The reason for the
upsizing? There are just a few more luxuries on the J28 than the Colgate.
> >
> > Are there any good sites or information around on how to setup the J28 for
the racing in the local PHRF fleet?
> >
> > Has anyone outfitted their J28 with a masthead asymetrical?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Pat and Roy
> >
>

#177 From: "John" <jfws88@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:39 am
Subject: Re: Moving batteries forward
jfws88
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I finally posted the pic's of my battery box moved to under the starboard sette.
I cut the cover board in half and epoxied the removable cover in place. If I
remember right the cables are about a ft shorter.
BTW I have two group 24 batterys if your batteries are bigger (gp 27's) this may
not work.

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jfws88@...> wrote:
>
> Hanas,
>
> The battery cables are shorter now, no need to splice. I'll get picture of my
batery box this week end.
>
> I still have some play in the rudder but it isn't bad.
>
> John
>
> --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "andersenhans15" <hansandsharon@> wrote:
> >
> > Did you have to install longer battery cables or could you splice in longer
pieces?
> > I am considering moving my two batteries next spring, the boat is on the dry
now and it is getting cold here in southern ontario.
> > How much play is ok as far as you know in the Rudder?
> > Hanas.
> >
>

#178 From: Roy Briscoe <roysail@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:42 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Racing Tips?
roysail3
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John, thanks for the info. I was wondering how close the tuning would be to the J30, I'm a little familar with that. We bought #29, Ruffian, which will be trucked down the coast to NH in a week or so. We briefly considered sailing it down, but it would probably take 3-4 days and I'd rather save my vacation time till the summer.
 
Being a late entry to the group, why did you move the batteries forward? Was it for weight? I need to do some repair work in the battery area (basically rebuild the box) and was wondering if it would be worth moving them.
 
Do you have an autohelm? Do you disconnect it for racing? Ruffian has an Autohlem 6000 with all the hardware is below decks. The wheel seems a bit sluggish for racing. The surveyor mentioned that we might want to just disconnect it by pulling the pin and it should be easy enough to reconnect for cruising or our annual single handed race.
 
Roy
#29
 

To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
From: jfws88@...
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:30:49 +0000
Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Racing Tips?

 
Roy, I race my boat all summer and set the rig up almost to the tuning guides for the j30 the two rigs are very similar and it feels pretty good. I fly a used j30 spinaker.

What hull # did you buy?

John

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, Roy Briscoe <roysail@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the info. That's a good point.
>
>
>
> Do you know what a good starting point is for shroud tension? On the Colgate is was 500 lbs. I raced on a J30 a bit this summer it was around 1000 lbs and up.
>
>
>
> Roy
>
>
>
> To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> From: misailor@...
> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:35:25 +0000
> Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Racing Tips?
>
>
>
>
>
> Pat and Roy,
>
> The upper shrouds on a J/28 attach to the mast just above the fractional fore stay. A mast head spinnaker would likely put too much lateral load on the upper mast. Look at the shrouds on a boat set up with a full rig (J/35). The shrouds on these boats go to the top of the mast.
>
> Bruce
>
> --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "roysail3" <roysail@> wrote:
> >
> > We are new to the group and have just about completed the process of moving from a Colgate 26 (7 years) to a J28. The boat will be located on the Maine side of the Maine/NH border in the Kittery/Portsmouth area. The reason for the upsizing? There are just a few more luxuries on the J28 than the Colgate.
> >
> > Are there any good sites or information around on how to setup the J28 for the racing in the local PHRF fleet?
> >
> > Has anyone outfitted their J28 with a masthead asymetrical?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Pat and Roy
> >
>



#179 From: "J. Smith" <jason3317@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:52 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Racing Tips?
jason3317_04
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Roy,
First, congratulations on your purchase. As you likely already know, the J/28 will be a fantastic upgrade to the Colgate. So, welcome to the group.

John has given you good advice to follow the J/30 tuning as a base setup. As far as moving the batteries, it is to get weight out of the stern (the boat drags its butt).

Again, welcome to the J family.

Jason
From: Roy Briscoe <roysail@...>
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:42:36 +0000
To: <j28sailors@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [J28Sailors] Re: Racing Tips?

 

John, thanks for the info. I was wondering how close the tuning would be to the J30, I'm a little familar with that. We bought #29, Ruffian, which will be trucked down the coast to NH in a week or so. We briefly considered sailing it down, but it would probably take 3-4 days and I'd rather save my vacation time till the summer.
 
Being a late entry to the group, why did you move the batteries forward? Was it for weight? I need to do some repair work in the battery area (basically rebuild the box) and was wondering if it would be worth moving them.
 
Do you have an autohelm? Do you disconnect it for racing? Ruffian has an Autohlem 6000 with all the hardware is below decks. The wheel seems a bit sluggish for racing. The surveyor mentioned that we might want to just disconnect it by pulling the pin and it should be easy enough to reconnect for cruising or our annual single handed race.
 
Roy
#29
 


To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
From: jfws88@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:30:49 +0000
Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Racing Tips?

 
Roy, I race my boat all summer and set the rig up almost to the tuning guides for the j30 the two rigs are very similar and it feels pretty good. I fly a used j30 spinaker.

What hull # did you buy?

John

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, Roy Briscoe <roysail@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the info. That's a good point.
>
>
>
> Do you know what a good starting point is for shroud tension? On the Colgate is was 500 lbs. I raced on a J30 a bit this summer it was around 1000 lbs and up.
>
>
>
> Roy
>
>
>
> To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> From: misailor@...
> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:35:25 +0000
> Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Racing Tips?
>
>
>
>
>
> Pat and Roy,
>
> The upper shrouds on a J/28 attach to the mast just above the fractional fore stay. A mast head spinnaker would likely put too much lateral load on the upper mast. Look at the shrouds on a boat set up with a full rig (J/35). The shrouds on these boats go to the top of the mast.
>
> Bruce
>
> --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "roysail3" <roysail@> wrote:
> >
> > We are new to the group and have just about completed the process of moving from a Colgate 26 (7 years) to a J28. The boat will be located on the Maine side of the Maine/NH border in the Kittery/Portsmouth area. The reason for the upsizing? There are just a few more luxuries on the J28 than the Colgate.
> >
> > Are there any good sites or information around on how to setup the J28 for the racing in the local PHRF fleet?
> >
> > Has anyone outfitted their J28 with a masthead asymetrical?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Pat and Roy
> >
>



#180 From: "John" <jfws88@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:12 pm
Subject: Re: Racing Tips?
jfws88
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I would have guessed you bought Lenny's boat.

Moving the batteried was strictly for weight. These boat are stern heavy and I
was trying the get the weight forward. I don't miss the lost stoage under the
bunk and I use the storage were the batteries were so, I win.

BTW I tune to 90% of the J30 guide just because at the j30 numbers the rig seems
too tight. I can tell you I never have slack in the leward shrouds no matter
what the wind and the backstay adjustment is a great tool.

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, Roy Briscoe <roysail@...> wrote:
>
>
> John, thanks for the info. I was wondering how close the tuning would be to
the J30, I'm a little familar with that. We bought #29, Ruffian, which will be
trucked down the coast to NH in a week or so. We briefly considered sailing it
down, but it would probably take 3-4 days and I'd rather save my vacation time
till the summer.
>
>
>
> Being a late entry to the group, why did you move the batteries forward? Was
it for weight? I need to do some repair work in the battery area (basically
rebuild the box) and was wondering if it would be worth moving them.
>
>
>
> Do you have an autohelm? Do you disconnect it for racing? Ruffian has an
Autohlem 6000 with all the hardware is below decks. The wheel seems a bit
sluggish for racing. The surveyor mentioned that we might want to just
disconnect it by pulling the pin and it should be easy enough to reconnect for
cruising or our annual single handed race.
>
>
>
> Roy
>
> #29
>
>
>
>
> To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> From: jfws88@...
> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:30:49 +0000
> Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Racing Tips?
>
>
>
>
>
> Roy, I race my boat all summer and set the rig up almost to the tuning guides
for the j30 the two rigs are very similar and it feels pretty good. I fly a used
j30 spinaker.
>
> What hull # did you buy?
>
> John
>
> --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, Roy Briscoe <roysail@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the info. That's a good point.
> >
> >
> >
> > Do you know what a good starting point is for shroud tension? On the Colgate
is was 500 lbs. I raced on a J30 a bit this summer it was around 1000 lbs and
up.
> >
> >
> >
> > Roy
> >
> >
> >
> > To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> > From: misailor@
> > Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:35:25 +0000
> > Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Racing Tips?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Pat and Roy,
> >
> > The upper shrouds on a J/28 attach to the mast just above the fractional
fore stay. A mast head spinnaker would likely put too much lateral load on the
upper mast. Look at the shrouds on a boat set up with a full rig (J/35). The
shrouds on these boats go to the top of the mast.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "roysail3" <roysail@> wrote:
> > >
> > > We are new to the group and have just about completed the process of
moving from a Colgate 26 (7 years) to a J28. The boat will be located on the
Maine side of the Maine/NH border in the Kittery/Portsmouth area. The reason for
the upsizing? There are just a few more luxuries on the J28 than the Colgate.
> > >
> > > Are there any good sites or information around on how to setup the J28 for
the racing in the local PHRF fleet?
> > >
> > > Has anyone outfitted their J28 with a masthead asymetrical?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Pat and Roy
> > >
> >
>

#181 From: "Kurt" <kbianculli@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:30 pm
Subject: Re: Racing Tips?
kbianculli
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Lenny sold his boat?  Did something happen or did he move up to something else? 
If this is too nosy a question just ignore it but being a J-28 owner for 14
seasons now I can't imagine selling mine.

Kurt
J-28 #71 Evangeline II

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, Roy Briscoe <roysail@...> wrote:
>
>
> John, thanks for the info. I was wondering how close the tuning would be to
the J30, I'm a little familar with that. We bought #29, Ruffian, which will be
trucked down the coast to NH in a week or so. We briefly considered sailing it
down, but it would probably take 3-4 days and I'd rather save my vacation time
till the summer.
>
>
>
> Being a late entry to the group, why did you move the batteries forward? Was
it for weight? I need to do some repair work in the battery area (basically
rebuild the box) and was wondering if it would be worth moving them.
>
>
>
> Do you have an autohelm? Do you disconnect it for racing? Ruffian has an
Autohlem 6000 with all the hardware is below decks. The wheel seems a bit
sluggish for racing. The surveyor mentioned that we might want to just
disconnect it by pulling the pin and it should be easy enough to reconnect for
cruising or our annual single handed race.
>
>
>
> Roy
>
> #29
>
>
>
>
> To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> From: jfws88@...
> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:30:49 +0000
> Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Racing Tips?
>
>
>
>
>
> Roy, I race my boat all summer and set the rig up almost to the tuning guides
for the j30 the two rigs are very similar and it feels pretty good. I fly a used
j30 spinaker.
>
> What hull # did you buy?
>
> John
>
> --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, Roy Briscoe <roysail@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the info. That's a good point.
> >
> >
> >
> > Do you know what a good starting point is for shroud tension? On the Colgate
is was 500 lbs. I raced on a J30 a bit this summer it was around 1000 lbs and
up.
> >
> >
> >
> > Roy
> >
> >
> >
> > To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> > From: misailor@
> > Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:35:25 +0000
> > Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Racing Tips?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Pat and Roy,
> >
> > The upper shrouds on a J/28 attach to the mast just above the fractional
fore stay. A mast head spinnaker would likely put too much lateral load on the
upper mast. Look at the shrouds on a boat set up with a full rig (J/35). The
shrouds on these boats go to the top of the mast.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "roysail3" <roysail@> wrote:
> > >
> > > We are new to the group and have just about completed the process of
moving from a Colgate 26 (7 years) to a J28. The boat will be located on the
Maine side of the Maine/NH border in the Kittery/Portsmouth area. The reason for
the upsizing? There are just a few more luxuries on the J28 than the Colgate.
> > >
> > > Are there any good sites or information around on how to setup the J28 for
the racing in the local PHRF fleet?
> > >
> > > Has anyone outfitted their J28 with a masthead asymetrical?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Pat and Roy
> > >
> >
>

#182 From: "J. Smith" <jason3317@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:32 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Racing Tips?
jason3317_04
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Lenny is monitoring the forum, so I am sure he will reply...but he traded up to a spectacularly fine looking J/40.
From: "Kurt" <kbianculli@...>
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:30:21 -0000
To: <J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Racing Tips?

 

Lenny sold his boat? Did something happen or did he move up to something else? If this is too nosy a question just ignore it but being a J-28 owner for 14 seasons now I can't imagine selling mine.

Kurt
J-28 #71 Evangeline II

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, Roy Briscoe <roysail@...> wrote:
>
>
> John, thanks for the info. I was wondering how close the tuning would be to the J30, I'm a little familar with that. We bought #29, Ruffian, which will be trucked down the coast to NH in a week or so. We briefly considered sailing it down, but it would probably take 3-4 days and I'd rather save my vacation time till the summer.
>
>
>
> Being a late entry to the group, why did you move the batteries forward? Was it for weight? I need to do some repair work in the battery area (basically rebuild the box) and was wondering if it would be worth moving them.
>
>
>
> Do you have an autohelm? Do you disconnect it for racing? Ruffian has an Autohlem 6000 with all the hardware is below decks. The wheel seems a bit sluggish for racing. The surveyor mentioned that we might want to just disconnect it by pulling the pin and it should be easy enough to reconnect for cruising or our annual single handed race.
>
>
>
> Roy
>
> #29
>
>
>
>
> To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> From: jfws88@...
> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:30:49 +0000
> Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Racing Tips?
>
>
>
>
>
> Roy, I race my boat all summer and set the rig up almost to the tuning guides for the j30 the two rigs are very similar and it feels pretty good. I fly a used j30 spinaker.
>
> What hull # did you buy?
>
> John
>
> --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, Roy Briscoe <roysail@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the info. That's a good point.
> >
> >
> >
> > Do you know what a good starting point is for shroud tension? On the Colgate is was 500 lbs. I raced on a J30 a bit this summer it was around 1000 lbs and up.
> >
> >
> >
> > Roy
> >
> >
> >
> > To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> > From: misailor@
> > Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:35:25 +0000
> > Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Racing Tips?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Pat and Roy,
> >
> > The upper shrouds on a J/28 attach to the mast just above the fractional fore stay. A mast head spinnaker would likely put too much lateral load on the upper mast. Look at the shrouds on a boat set up with a full rig (J/35). The shrouds on these boats go to the top of the mast.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "roysail3" <roysail@> wrote:
> > >
> > > We are new to the group and have just about completed the process of moving from a Colgate 26 (7 years) to a J28. The boat will be located on the Maine side of the Maine/NH border in the Kittery/Portsmouth area. The reason for the upsizing? There are just a few more luxuries on the J28 than the Colgate.
> > >
> > > Are there any good sites or information around on how to setup the J28 for the racing in the local PHRF fleet?
> > >
> > > Has anyone outfitted their J28 with a masthead asymetrical?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Pat and Roy
> > >
> >
>


#183 From: "J. Smith" <jason3317@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:34 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Racing Tips?
jason3317_04
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Kurt...did you get the last hull they built? Mine is #69.
From: "Kurt" <kbianculli@...>
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:30:21 -0000
To: <J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Racing Tips?

 

Lenny sold his boat? Did something happen or did he move up to something else? If this is too nosy a question just ignore it but being a J-28 owner for 14 seasons now I can't imagine selling mine.

Kurt
J-28 #71 Evangeline II

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, Roy Briscoe <roysail@...> wrote:
>
>
> John, thanks for the info. I was wondering how close the tuning would be to the J30, I'm a little familar with that. We bought #29, Ruffian, which will be trucked down the coast to NH in a week or so. We briefly considered sailing it down, but it would probably take 3-4 days and I'd rather save my vacation time till the summer.
>
>
>
> Being a late entry to the group, why did you move the batteries forward? Was it for weight? I need to do some repair work in the battery area (basically rebuild the box) and was wondering if it would be worth moving them.
>
>
>
> Do you have an autohelm? Do you disconnect it for racing? Ruffian has an Autohlem 6000 with all the hardware is below decks. The wheel seems a bit sluggish for racing. The surveyor mentioned that we might want to just disconnect it by pulling the pin and it should be easy enough to reconnect for cruising or our annual single handed race.
>
>
>
> Roy
>
> #29
>
>
>
>
> To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> From: jfws88@...
> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:30:49 +0000
> Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Racing Tips?
>
>
>
>
>
> Roy, I race my boat all summer and set the rig up almost to the tuning guides for the j30 the two rigs are very similar and it feels pretty good. I fly a used j30 spinaker.
>
> What hull # did you buy?
>
> John
>
> --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, Roy Briscoe <roysail@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the info. That's a good point.
> >
> >
> >
> > Do you know what a good starting point is for shroud tension? On the Colgate is was 500 lbs. I raced on a J30 a bit this summer it was around 1000 lbs and up.
> >
> >
> >
> > Roy
> >
> >
> >
> > To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> > From: misailor@
> > Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:35:25 +0000
> > Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Racing Tips?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Pat and Roy,
> >
> > The upper shrouds on a J/28 attach to the mast just above the fractional fore stay. A mast head spinnaker would likely put too much lateral load on the upper mast. Look at the shrouds on a boat set up with a full rig (J/35). The shrouds on these boats go to the top of the mast.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "roysail3" <roysail@> wrote:
> > >
> > > We are new to the group and have just about completed the process of moving from a Colgate 26 (7 years) to a J28. The boat will be located on the Maine side of the Maine/NH border in the Kittery/Portsmouth area. The reason for the upsizing? There are just a few more luxuries on the J28 than the Colgate.
> > >
> > > Are there any good sites or information around on how to setup the J28 for the racing in the local PHRF fleet?
> > >
> > > Has anyone outfitted their J28 with a masthead asymetrical?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Pat and Roy
> > >
> >
>


#185 From: "j28sailor50" <misailor@...>
Date: Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:21 pm
Subject: Owner's Manual
j28sailor50
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Does anyone have a copy of the J/28 owner's manual that could be scanned and
posted?

#186 From: "Lenny" <lsreich@...>
Date: Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:50 pm
Subject: Yes, I sold my J/28
lenny_reich
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I didn't want to say anything until the sale was final, and that just happened
two days ago on the 25th.  Roy and Pat, who live in southern New Hampshire,
bought my J/28 and will be taking it a good ways down the Maine coast -- almost
to Massachusetts, as we Mainers say. They have already joined the forum, and I
wish them great sailing for many years to come.  I know that they won't be
disappointed in this boat.

And, yes, I now have a gorgeous J/40, which we have named "Watermusic." There
have been five previous boats by that name in the family, dating back to 1981.

The fact that I went for a J/40 is in fact a strong vote of confidence in the
J/28, as the boats were in production at the same time, are very similar in
design, with the main exception being the masthead rig on the J/40.  And, of
course, the J/40 is just a wee bit bigger ;-)

I honestly had no intention of moving to a larger boat so soon. I was just
beginning to look into serious cruising boats for my retirement in three to five
years when this beauty came on the market at an attractive price, and very
nearby in Camden, Maine. I only went to have a look -- no harm in that, right?
Then my wife only went to see the boat in order to appease me, as she was set
against doing anything so foolish quite so soon. After 10 minutes aboard, her
tune changed entirely, and within a few weeks, we owned it. You can see a couple
of photos at at the bottom of this web page:
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/sded/gallery.htm

So, there you have it. I will certainly keep lurking about on the J/28 forum and
put in a thing or two if it seems helpful. Jason Smith has kindly agreed to take
over as moderator, so if you have any complaints -- please direct them to him!

Best to all -- Lenny

#187 From: Roy Briscoe <roysail@...>
Date: Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:35 pm
Subject: RE: Owner's Manual
roysail3
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I think I have a manual on the boat, but won't have access to it until next week. I should be able to scan it next weekend, if that helps.
 
Pat and Roy
#29
 

To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
From: misailor@...
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:21:08 +0000
Subject: [J28Sailors] Owner's Manual

 
Does anyone have a copy of the J/28 owner's manual that could be scanned and posted?



#188 From: "J. Smith" <jason3317@...>
Date: Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:56 pm
Subject: Re: Owner's Manual
jason3317_04
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Lenny - do you have this in electronic format. If so, maybe you can post?

Thx.
Jason
From: Roy Briscoe <roysail@...>
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:35:22 +0000
To: <j28sailors@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [J28Sailors] Owner's Manual

 

I think I have a manual on the boat, but won't have access to it until next week. I should be able to scan it next weekend, if that helps.
 
Pat and Roy
#29
 


To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
From: misailor@aol.com
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:21:08 +0000
Subject: [J28Sailors] Owner's Manual

 
Does anyone have a copy of the J/28 owner's manual that could be scanned and posted?



#189 From: "Kurt" <kbianculli@...>
Date: Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:23 pm
Subject: Re: Racing Tips?
kbianculli
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In a nutshell, I am not completely sure. :-)

When J-boats first posted their J-28 page they stated that they had built 68 of
them.  Since I knew that was wrong (and since you have #69 you also know that
was wrong) I sent an email to J-boats to say that I owned hull 71 and that I had
previously spoken to Nan Hall at Hall Spars who said they had built 74 rigs for
the 28.  Neither Nan or Alan Johnstone could verify whether all the rigs went
into boats or not so, as Alan said, until somebody says they have a higher hull
number he was going to use 71 as the last one built.  Unless somebody else in
this forum pipes up to say they have a later number I guess I do have the last
one built.

I sail out of Marblehead, MA although the last four years have been extremely
quiet on the sailing front for me due to my four year old son and two year old
daughter.  I hope to do more next season since my son has now started to show a
real interest in sailing.

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "J. Smith" <jason3317@...> wrote:
>
> Kurt...did you get the last hull they built?  Mine is #69.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Kurt" <kbianculli@...>
> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:30:21
> To: <J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Racing Tips?
>
> Lenny sold his boat?  Did something happen or did he move up to something
else?  If this is too nosy a question just ignore it but being a J-28 owner for
14 seasons now I can't imagine selling mine.
>
> Kurt
> J-28 #71 Evangeline II
>
> --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, Roy Briscoe <roysail@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > John, thanks for the info. I was wondering how close the tuning would be to
the J30, I'm a little familar with that. We bought #29, Ruffian, which will be
trucked down the coast to NH in a week or so. We briefly considered sailing it
down, but it would probably take 3-4 days and I'd rather save my vacation time
till the summer.
> >
> >
> >
> > Being a late entry to the group, why did you move the batteries forward? Was
it for weight? I need to do some repair work in the battery area (basically
rebuild the box) and was wondering if it would be worth moving them.
> >
> >
> >
> > Do you have an autohelm? Do you disconnect it for racing? Ruffian has an
Autohlem 6000 with all the hardware is below decks. The wheel seems a bit
sluggish for racing. The surveyor mentioned that we might want to just
disconnect it by pulling the pin and it should be easy enough to reconnect for
cruising or our annual single handed race.
> >
> >
> >
> > Roy
> >
> > #29
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> > From: jfws88@
> > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:30:49 +0000
> > Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Racing Tips?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Roy, I race my boat all summer and set the rig up almost to the tuning
guides for the j30 the two rigs are very similar and it feels pretty good. I fly
a used j30 spinaker.
> >
> > What hull # did you buy?
> >
> > John
> >
> > --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, Roy Briscoe <roysail@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the info. That's a good point.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Do you know what a good starting point is for shroud tension? On the
Colgate is was 500 lbs. I raced on a J30 a bit this summer it was around 1000
lbs and up.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Roy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: misailor@
> > > Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:35:25 +0000
> > > Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Racing Tips?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Pat and Roy,
> > >
> > > The upper shrouds on a J/28 attach to the mast just above the fractional
fore stay. A mast head spinnaker would likely put too much lateral load on the
upper mast. Look at the shrouds on a boat set up with a full rig (J/35). The
shrouds on these boats go to the top of the mast.
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > > --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "roysail3" <roysail@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > We are new to the group and have just about completed the process of
moving from a Colgate 26 (7 years) to a J28. The boat will be located on the
Maine side of the Maine/NH border in the Kittery/Portsmouth area. The reason for
the upsizing? There are just a few more luxuries on the J28 than the Colgate.
> > > >
> > > > Are there any good sites or information around on how to setup the J28
for the racing in the local PHRF fleet?
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone outfitted their J28 with a masthead asymetrical?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Pat and Roy
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

#190 From: "J. Smith" <jason3317@...>
Date: Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:31 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Racing Tips?
jason3317_04
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71 it is, for now! Nice. Post some pix if you have some.
From: "Kurt" <kbianculli@...>
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:23:48 -0000
To: <J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Racing Tips?

 

In a nutshell, I am not completely sure. :-)

When J-boats first posted their J-28 page they stated that they had built 68 of them. Since I knew that was wrong (and since you have #69 you also know that was wrong) I sent an email to J-boats to say that I owned hull 71 and that I had previously spoken to Nan Hall at Hall Spars who said they had built 74 rigs for the 28. Neither Nan or Alan Johnstone could verify whether all the rigs went into boats or not so, as Alan said, until somebody says they have a higher hull number he was going to use 71 as the last one built. Unless somebody else in this forum pipes up to say they have a later number I guess I do have the last one built.

I sail out of Marblehead, MA although the last four years have been extremely quiet on the sailing front for me due to my four year old son and two year old daughter. I hope to do more next season since my son has now started to show a real interest in sailing.

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "J. Smith" <jason3317@...> wrote:
>
> Kurt...did you get the last hull they built? Mine is #69.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Kurt" <kbianculli@...>
> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:30:21
> To: <J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Racing Tips?
>
> Lenny sold his boat? Did something happen or did he move up to something else? If this is too nosy a question just ignore it but being a J-28 owner for 14 seasons now I can't imagine selling mine.
>
> Kurt
> J-28 #71 Evangeline II
>
> --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, Roy Briscoe <roysail@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > John, thanks for the info. I was wondering how close the tuning would be to the J30, I'm a little familar with that. We bought #29, Ruffian, which will be trucked down the coast to NH in a week or so. We briefly considered sailing it down, but it would probably take 3-4 days and I'd rather save my vacation time till the summer.
> >
> >
> >
> > Being a late entry to the group, why did you move the batteries forward? Was it for weight? I need to do some repair work in the battery area (basically rebuild the box) and was wondering if it would be worth moving them.
> >
> >
> >
> > Do you have an autohelm? Do you disconnect it for racing? Ruffian has an Autohlem 6000 with all the hardware is below decks. The wheel seems a bit sluggish for racing. The surveyor mentioned that we might want to just disconnect it by pulling the pin and it should be easy enough to reconnect for cruising or our annual single handed race.
> >
> >
> >
> > Roy
> >
> > #29
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> > From: jfws88@
> > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:30:49 +0000
> > Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Racing Tips?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Roy, I race my boat all summer and set the rig up almost to the tuning guides for the j30 the two rigs are very similar and it feels pretty good. I fly a used j30 spinaker.
> >
> > What hull # did you buy?
> >
> > John
> >
> > --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, Roy Briscoe <roysail@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the info. That's a good point.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Do you know what a good starting point is for shroud tension? On the Colgate is was 500 lbs. I raced on a J30 a bit this summer it was around 1000 lbs and up.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Roy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: misailor@
> > > Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:35:25 +0000
> > > Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Racing Tips?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Pat and Roy,
> > >
> > > The upper shrouds on a J/28 attach to the mast just above the fractional fore stay. A mast head spinnaker would likely put too much lateral load on the upper mast. Look at the shrouds on a boat set up with a full rig (J/35). The shrouds on these boats go to the top of the mast.
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > > --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "roysail3" <roysail@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > We are new to the group and have just about completed the process of moving from a Colgate 26 (7 years) to a J28. The boat will be located on the Maine side of the Maine/NH border in the Kittery/Portsmouth area. The reason for the upsizing? There are just a few more luxuries on the J28 than the Colgate.
> > > >
> > > > Are there any good sites or information around on how to setup the J28 for the racing in the local PHRF fleet?
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone outfitted their J28 with a masthead asymetrical?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Pat and Roy
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


#191 From: "Lenny" <lsreich@...>
Date: Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:38 pm
Subject: Re: Owner's Manual
lenny_reich
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No, I never did scan the owner's manual.  Roy and Pat have my copy, which is
aboard their new boat.

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "J. Smith" <jason3317@...> wrote:
>
> Lenny - do you have this in electronic format.  If so, maybe you can post?
>
> Thx.
> Jason
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roy Briscoe <roysail@...>
> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:35:22
> To: <j28sailors@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [J28Sailors] Owner's Manual
>
>
> I think I have a manual on the boat, but won't have access to it until next
week. I should be able to scan it next weekend, if that helps.
>
>
>
> Pat and Roy
>
> #29
>
>
>
> To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> From: misailor@...
> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:21:08 +0000
> Subject: [J28Sailors] Owner's Manual
>
>
>
>
>
> Does anyone have a copy of the J/28 owner's manual that could be scanned and
posted?
>

#192 From: "j28sailor50" <misailor@...>
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:56 pm
Subject: Re: Owner's Manual
j28sailor50
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Roy,

Anytime you get a chance to scan and post it would be great.  I have never seen
the manual and would like to have a copy.

Thanks,
Bruce

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "Lenny" <lsreich@...> wrote:
>
> No, I never did scan the owner's manual.  Roy and Pat have my copy, which is
aboard their new boat.
>
> --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "J. Smith" <jason3317@> wrote:
> >
> > Lenny - do you have this in electronic format.  If so, maybe you can post?
> >
> > Thx.
> > Jason
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roy Briscoe <roysail@>
> > Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:35:22
> > To: <j28sailors@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: RE: [J28Sailors] Owner's Manual
> >
> >
> > I think I have a manual on the boat, but won't have access to it until next
week. I should be able to scan it next weekend, if that helps.
> >
> >
> >
> > Pat and Roy
> >
> > #29
> >
> >
> >
> > To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
> > From: misailor@
> > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:21:08 +0000
> > Subject: [J28Sailors] Owner's Manual
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Does anyone have a copy of the J/28 owner's manual that could be scanned and
posted?
> >
>

#193 From: Philip Stathos <philipstathos@...>
Date: Wed Dec 2, 2009 2:56 am
Subject: Re: Re: Owner's Manual
philipstathos
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Just closed on the purchase of J28 #58 Spindrift last week.
 
Very excited about finding the J28 and discovering the forum which has great information.
 
Our odyssey to buy a boat began over a year ago and included consideration of  2 Sabre 30 Mark III's, 2 Frers 30's, Lenny's (of this Forum) J28 which was a great boat, and finally on Hull #58 J28 Spindrift which was sailed out of Marblehead since it was built in '87.
 
We plan on sailing out of Marion, MA where we have kept two previous boats, (a C&C 25 and a C&C 34).  Open invitation to J28 sailors visiting Buzzards Bay and Marion!
 
I have a crew of three small boys 10,7,5 so the goal is getting them out on the water before other activities try crowd out sailing.  We have motivated them through the Disney movie "Morning Light", which I highly recommend to all in the sailing community.
 
Have many projects to complete before spring and look forward to getting advice from the group.
 
Regards,
 
Phil


From: j28sailor50 <misailor@...>
To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 1:56:13 PM
Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Owner's Manual

 

Roy,

Anytime you get a chance to scan and post it would be great. I have never seen the manual and would like to have a copy.

Thanks,
Bruce

--- In J28Sailors@yahoogro ups.com, "Lenny" <lsreich@... > wrote:
>
> No, I never did scan the owner's manual. Roy and Pat have my copy, which is aboard their new boat.
>
> --- In J28Sailors@yahoogro ups.com, "J. Smith" <jason3317@> wrote:
> >
> > Lenny - do you have this in electronic format. If so, maybe you can post?
> >
> > Thx.
> > Jason
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roy Briscoe <roysail@>
> > Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:35:22
> > To: <j28sailors@yahoogro ups.com>
> > Subject: RE: [J28Sailors] Owner's Manual
> >
> >
> > I think I have a manual on the boat, but won't have access to it until next week. I should be able to scan it next weekend, if that helps.
> >
> >
> >
> > Pat and Roy
> >
> > #29
> >
> >
> >
> > To: J28Sailors@yahoogro ups.com
> > From: misailor@
> > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:21:08 +0000
> > Subject: [J28Sailors] Owner's Manual
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Does anyone have a copy of the J/28 owner's manual that could be scanned and posted?
> >
>



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