Just a heads up: I don't want to bust anyone's balloon here, but I hope people noticed that the two paintings of women on this page are copies that were done...
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Susan B. Farmer
jerusha_kilgore
Mar 29, 2007 10:15 pm
While we're on the subject of New To Me paintings ... http://silverstah.livejournal.com/669036.html Does that gown look familiar to anybody? jerusha...
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otsisto
alfrdis
Mar 29, 2007 10:32 pm
I had not noticed that, like a magpie "oh pretty new picture" and didn't think to read the fine print. :P Irritating that they list it under Bronzino. The...
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Heather Rigaud
hlmarkle
Mar 29, 2007 11:26 pm
It's tricky, and I've been fooled. <ggg> There is one up on Bella's site that I really doubt is by who 'they' are claiming it to be by: ...
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Bella
bella_lucia_...
Mar 29, 2007 11:41 pm
It may be difficult to tell the work of two Renaissance artists apart without lots of in-depth and scientific scrutiny, but I believe it is much easier to tell...
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Anabella (Bella) Wake
bella_lucia_...
Mar 29, 2007 11:50 pm
Hi all, in the last two days I have added two new galleries of men's clothing - the 1560s and 1570s. You can link to them via The Wardrobe page: ...
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otsisto
alfrdis
Mar 29, 2007 11:57 pm
It actually it is Paris Bordone. Definitly his style. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:ParisBondone.YoungWoman01.jpg ...
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otsisto
alfrdis
Mar 29, 2007 11:58 pm
When I first saw it, it was the bodice and the wasp looking waistline. Then the face and the skin tone. De ... It may be difficult to tell the work of two...
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Heather Rigaud
hlmarkle
Mar 30, 2007 12:57 am
It is clearly his style, but I think it's the work of someone imitating it. I've compared his works before and right now I have a bunch staring at me. <g> So...
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Diana Habra
sybilvonbora
Mar 30, 2007 1:38 am
He was certainly fascinated by boobs, wasn't he? I also thought the "new" painting was Victorian based on how the face was painted. However, after seeing...
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Diana Habra
sybilvonbora
Mar 30, 2007 1:46 am
Uh....sorry! I thought we were talking about a different painting. I agree with Catalina that this bodice is not like anything I have seen. She may look...
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Bella
bella_lucia_...
Mar 30, 2007 2:36 am
http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/wardrobe/BordoneHandkerchief.jpg You make some good points. If I may give my thinking regarding those points? ... that...
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otsisto
alfrdis
Mar 30, 2007 3:11 am
Someone posted this http://pics.livejournal.com/silverstah/pic/00048kht/s640x640 if the dress was familiar. I am not sure what is being asked but I found this...
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otsisto
alfrdis
Mar 30, 2007 3:23 am
Bella, I think you are correct in that the painting should be in the 1540s or later. Similar style of dress and neckline and she is wearing jewelry ...
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Bella
bella_lucia_...
Mar 30, 2007 3:47 am
I said: http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/wardrobe/BordoneHandkerchief.jpg "The embroidery on the bodice can be seen in another Italian gown, but I...
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Susan B. Farmer
jerusha_kilgore
Mar 30, 2007 3:51 am
... Actually, the dress I was thinking of is the one that toured with the "Wonders of Florence" exhibit. I'm not finding it on the web, but here are a couple...
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Heather Rigaud
hlmarkle
Mar 30, 2007 4:10 pm
Bella, Thank you for sharing your sources. It's really hard to argue with Sotheby's <g>. I am very pleased to have this painting moved to the 1540-1550's...
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Ailith Mackintosh
macailith
Mar 30, 2007 10:37 pm
It's very similar in cut to the famous portrait of Eleanora. The sleeves have the same small roll at the top, but do not have the panes that Eleanora's gown...
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Susan B. Farmer
jerusha_kilgore
Mar 30, 2007 11:41 pm
... What I was thinking of is the red extant gown (not the burial dress) allegedly of Eleanora's. It's in Moda a Firenze ..... susan ... Susan Farmer ...
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Susan B. Farmer
jerusha_kilgore
Mar 31, 2007 1:07 am
... much good stuff snipped ... Thanks! jerusha ... Susan Farmer sfarmer@... University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology ...
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Kat
kat_d_b
Mar 31, 2007 3:58 am
Yes, have been eyeing this off. This is similar to the 'Red velvet Pisa dress' found in La Moda. The material is similar to the Unknown Florentine woman by...
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Bella
bella_lucia_...
Mar 31, 2007 4:08 am
... From: otsisto <otsisto@...> To: Italian Renaissance <Italian_Renaissance_Costuming@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, 30 March, 2007 12:41:02 PM ...
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otsisto
alfrdis
Mar 31, 2007 6:30 am
My monitor shows a red and gold brocade like trim ... Someone posted this http://pics.livejournal.com/silverstah/pic/00048kht/s640x640 <<<<< < The trim looks...
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Oonagh ONeill
oonaghsown
Mar 31, 2007 10:04 am
... The full information listed for this portrait is as follows. Creator Michele Tosini, called Michele di Ridolfo del Ghirlandaio Florence 1503-1577 Lot Title...
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Susan B. Farmer
jerusha_kilgore
Mar 31, 2007 7:29 pm
... If you're wanting paintings ... Florentine http://festiveattyre.com click on research -- she has them divided up into 25 year periods. Venetian ...
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Cilean_69
Mar 31, 2007 7:35 pm
It is always nice to see another view or a portrait no one Yep I think it is burned velvet as well, it has that look. This will be placed on my back burner...
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otsisto
alfrdis
Mar 31, 2007 8:55 pm
If people remember, could you post the url of the portrait being discussed if you are only going to post a reply so that some of us can refresh our memories or...
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Oonagh ONeill
oonaghsown
Apr 1, 2007 12:26 am
... that ... Kat and I have both included a wide range of images references for out creations, as well as a host of research into the production of recreations...
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Kat
kat_d_b
Apr 1, 2007 2:54 am
More info for you to look at. If you go to http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lfsearch/LargeImage.aspx?image=/lotfinder/lotfinderimages/d48928/d4892873x.jpg ...
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Anabella (Bella) Wake
bella_lucia_...
Apr 1, 2007 4:25 am
Wow - this is pretty! I bring you Lady Ysabeau Tiercelin of the Barony of Endless Hills, Aethelmearc ((Phoebe Sharp of Carbondale, Pennsylvania, USA) in a...