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Re: Kenfengill/Cenel n'Ailghile Tipperary or Offaly

Clare,

I remembered seeing something on medieval settlement in Eliogarty and
managed to dig it out. I think a deed mentioned in it gives the real
answer. It dates from between 1190 and 1195:

"Theobold Walter grants to Gilbert de Kentewell and his heirs for
homage and service of the fee of five knights in Helyohokerdi, to wit
the tuath of Kenelfenelgille [Drom] - towards the east as far as the
said tuath extends towards the tuath where the castle of Durles
[Thurles] is situated, and so extending to le Bernhely [Bernane-ely]
as far as the said tuath extends; and so from the land of
Gillissehodian towards the north...to the tuath of Kerketeni
[Templemore] ...to have and to hold...etc." Curtis, Ormond Deeds
1172-1350 no 34.

Curtis identifies Kenelfenegille with the civil parish of Drom to the
NW of Thurles and bounded by the Parishes of Barnane-ely, Inch,
Kilfithmone, Killoskehan, Loughmoe West and Templemore. The paper is
C.A. Empey's "The Anglo-Norman Settlement of Eliogarty".
Hope this makes sense to you.

Tony




Fri May 11, 2007 10:54 pm

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Am new to the group and would welcome any suggestions or help with identifying the location of Kenelfengill - Gaelic version Cenel n'Ailghile believed to be...
Clare Tuohy
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May 7, 2007
2:41 pm

The Ulster Place-Name Society will be holding its next biannual lecture on the evening of 31st May at Queen's University Belfast. The speaker will be Dr....
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May 10, 2007
4:11 pm

... identifying the location of Kenelfengill - Gaelic version Cenel n'Ailghile believed to be the 'tuath' of the Fogarty sept in pre-Norman times. The sept was...
Tony Lyons
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May 11, 2007
7:33 am

... in ... Onomasticon ... Fer. ... of ... Is ... Tony Many thanks for that information have to recheck my source but it looks most probable. Regards Clare...
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4:46 pm

Clare, I remembered seeing something on medieval settlement in Eliogarty and managed to dig it out. I think a deed mentioned in it gives the real answer. It...
Tony Lyons
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May 12, 2007
7:08 am

... and ... wit ... the ... Tony Thank you so much for taking all that trouble-I thought it might be further north but Drom certainly makes a lot of sense- > ...
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