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Stephen Schwartz wrote:
> THIS SHOULD SURPRISE ALL YOUR CORRESPONDENTS WHO CONSIDER ME AN ENEMY OF CIVIL
LIBERTIES.
>
> THE WEEKLY STANDARD
>
> Innocent of Treason
> Everything you've heard about Tokyo Rose is wrong.
> by Stephen Schwartz
> 01/14/2002, Volume 007, Issue 17
>
TREASON TRIALS are in the air, as U.S. authorities seek a solution to the case
of John Walker Lindh, the Taliban fighter from Fairfax, California. Predictably,
misinformation is rife, with amateur experts weighing in on a topic most
Americans have enjoyed the luxury of ignoring for the past 50 years.
But Article III, section 3 of the U.S. Constitution is both inclusive and
specific in its definition: "Treason against the United States, shall consist
only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them
aid and comfort." Two witnesses or a confession in open court are required for
conviction. Assisting the Taliban gun in hand, with many witnesses, should be
enough to qualify John Walker Lindh as a traitor.
While the nation awaits a decision in the "Caliban" case, three World War II
treason trials have returned to public atten! tion. Max Haupt, resident of
Chicago, was the father of Nazi saboteur Herbert Haupt. The son was convicted by
a military court in 1942 and executed. The elder Haupt was found guilty of
harboring his offspring, knowing he intended to commit sabotage, but the parent
was spared execution.
The case of Tomoya Kawakita was more distasteful. American born, Kawakita went
to Japan in 1939 to visit relatives and stayed, though without renouncing his
U.S. citizenship. Once he returned to the United States after the war, he was
identified as a brutal tormenter of American prisoners and found guilty of
treason in 1952. His death sentence was commuted to life imprisonment.
The third case was that of Iva Toguri d'Aquino, widely though misleadingly
known as "Tokyo Rose." Her 1949 trial for her role in wartime broadcasts on
Japanese radio is a study in irresponsible journalism more than in the
application of laws against treason. D'Aquino was the victim of an outrageous
injusti! ce.
Iva Toguri was an American who went to Japan in the summer of 1941 to visit a
sick relative. She was a graduate of the University of California and spoke no
Japanese. Trapped on the wrong side of the Pacific after Pearl Harbor, she was
pressured by the imperial authorities to take Japanese citizenship but firmly
rejected that option. She was refused evacuation from Japan. Though the U.S.
government would not confirm her citizenship, the Japanese considered her an
enemy alien.
Because of her loyalty to the United States, it was difficult for Toguri to
get work in wartime Japan, but eventually she was hired as an English typist at
Radio Tokyo.
There she encountered a group of Allied prisoners of war, who had been ordered
to broadcast in English under threat of death. They included an American,
Captain Wallace Ince, a Filipino, Lieutenant Norman Reyes, and an Australian,
Major Charles Cousens. Cousens refused to work on the radio until ordered to by
a fellow prisoner who was a superior officer. The group was assigned to "Zero
Hour," a program limited to entertainment. Ince, Reyes, and Cousens subverted
the broadcasts by including satirical references that the Japanese would not
understand but Allied combatants would recognize.
Iva Toguri went to work on "Zero Hour" but declined to serve as an announcer
until persuaded by Cousens. Once she started broadcasting, she identified
herself on the air as "Orphan Ann." She would always insist she never made
anti-Allied remarks. Nevertheless, she was labeled with the moniker "Tokyo
Rose," a generic nickname applied by Allied servicemen in the Pacific to any
number of women who broadcast music and light commentary on Japanese radio, some
of whom also read propaganda.
Not one of the scripts for "Zero Hour" was written by Toguri--or d'Aquino, as
she became after her marriage to the Japanese-Portuguese Felipe d'Aquino--and
none of the prisoners of war who worked with her ! was effectively prosecuted
after the war. (Ince was never charged, and although Cousens was tried in
Australia, the proceeding was quashed.) Yet d'Aquino got caught up in a
nightmare.
The nonexistence of any single "Tokyo Rose" did not faze two writers for the
Hearst press: Clark Lee, a newspaper reporter, and Harry Brundidge, a writer for
Cosmopolitan. These two traveled to Japan after the surrender and learned that
of dozens of American-born staffers in the Japanese radio services, d'Aquino was
the only one who had refused to renounce her U.S. citizenship. In a bizarre
irony, this affirmation of allegiance to the Stars and Stripes left her
vulnerable to a charge of treason if it could be shown she had knowingly
broadcast anti-American statements. Lee named d'Aquino "the one and only Tokyo
Rose" in a piece for the Los Angeles Examiner. Brundidge prevailed on the
American military authorities in Japan to arrest her, but she was exonerated
after a full U.S. Army investi! gation. The U.S. Department of Justice sustained
her innocence.
After her release from military detention in 1946, d'Aquino had only one wish:
to get home to Los Angeles and start a family. That was her undoing. Radio
personality Walter Winchell caught wind of her attempts to return to the United
States and pilloried her as "Tokyo Rose." Brundidge returned to the chase; he
went back to Japan and extorted her signature on a fraudulent "confession." She
was then indicted for treason by the Justice Department and flown to California
to stand trial.
The American Civil Liberties Union and the Japanese American Citizens League
refused to touch her case, which was taken up by an extraordinary civil
liberties champion, an authentic liberal named Wayne Mortimer Collins. Collins
had represented the plaintiffs in three challenges to the wartime relocation of
Japanese Americans (Korematsu, Hirabayashi, and Endo). He represented d'Aquino
pro bono, with assistance from a conservative Republican named Theodore Tamba
and a labor lawyer of occasional Communist sympathies, George Olshausen.
Ince and Cousens appeared as witnesses for the defense, along with numerous
Allied veterans who testified that "Orphan Ann" had played popular music and
indulged in disc-jockey chatter with no propaganda content. The jury was
deadlocked 10-2 in favor of conviction, but was ordered to reach a decision
because of the high cost of the proceeding.
Finally, d'Aquino was cleared on seven of eight counts, and found guilty only
on count six: that she had broadcast, in the fall of 1944, the approximate words
"Orphans of the Pacific, you really are orphans now. How are you going to get
home now that all your ships are sunk?" D'Aquino denied ever saying this;
Cousens denied including it in any broadcast; and none of the scripts or
recordings in the prosecution's possession included such phrases--besides,
virtually every Allied soldier and sailor in the Pacific knew it wasn't true.
Two Japanese-American witnesses, however, testified that the sentences had
been inserted by hand and that they had heard her speak them. D'Aquino was
sentenced to ten years' imprisonment. She served six years and two months, and
after her release was subjected to an attempted deportation to Japan, blocked by
the dedicated Collins. But she was badgered for a $10,000 fine, which she could
not pay until the early 1970s.
In 1977 Iva Toguri d'Aquino was pardoned fully and unconditionally by
President Gerald Ford, who, in his last official act, restored her citizenship.
She was the only American ever pardoned after being convicted of treason.
Her case offers some lessons: Treason proceedings are sensitive, and may go
wrong. The media--or parts of it--can be stunningly irresponsible. On the other
hand, American justice can right its mistakes. And, lest we forget, Iva Toguri
d'Aquino did not take up arms against this country. The ambiguities of her
situation are absent from that of John Walker Lindh.
Stephen Schwartz is completing a book entitled "The Two Faces of Islam."
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This is a brilliant analysis to ponder as one looks in the mirror especially
after the New Age Dotty.Commie Trash Crash! ;-)
Stephen Schwartz wrote:
> Let me explain something to you and all your correspondents about fascism and
the misuse of the term.
>
> Fascism was a mass movement of the disfranchised and disgruntled middle
classes in Europe, whose position was threatened by social instability: that of
the Italian regime in the face of proletarian revolution after World War I, in
the case of Mussolini's movement, and by the economic hardships in Germany
following the collapse of the empire in the same war, in the case of Hitler.
>
> Konrad Heiden, an anti-Stalin leftist and the first great biographer of
Hitler, wrote the earliest really useful social analysis of fascism. He
described its beginning as a movement of "armed intellectuals," then becoming a
movement of the "armed bohemia." Trotsky carried this analysis forward, but
being blunter, described fascism as "the panicked radicalism of the ruined and
crazed petit bourgeoisie," a movement composed of "human dust." (Of course Butt
Packer thinks Heiden is a poor historian...)
>
> "Human dust." Let us examine what this term and "armed bohemia" mean.
>
> Beginning in the 19th century, with the exponential growth of the great
European cities, interesting sociological developments are noticeable.
>
> Prior to then, society was composed of fairly stable classes: the aristocracy
and church, the commercial bourgeoisie, the trade and craft productive class,
the peasantry, and, weak but noticeable, the preindustrial wage-working class.
Trade and craft workers were paid for their products; wage workers for their
time.
>
> With the new rise of the cities, the decline of the old ruling and trade/craft
classes, the growth of the commercial and protoindustrial bourgeoisie, ruination
of the peasantry, and the continuing development of the protoindustrial working
class are all visible. But other sociological phenomena are also perceptible.
A new caste or class emerges -- the inferior section of the petit bourgeoisie,
consisting of:
>
> aspiring state office holders;
>
> parasitical entrepreneurs unable to establish a firm place in the new economy;
>
> "overeducated" but mediocre placeseekers in the liberal professions, including
academia and what we now call media;
>
> ruined trade and craft workers and peasants, devastated by the new economy;
>
> those who migrated from the country to the city and became demoralized, along
with other declassed elements, by the pace and difficulty of urban life, to a
point of unemployability, alcoholism, criminality, and mental incompetence.
>
> This vast array of unstable elements formed the bohemian class in the cities.
>
> They seldom had fixed jobs. They were filled with resentment at their failure
to establish themselves in society. Some of them were also enraged at the
social and economic changes that had deprived them of their place in society.
But most of them just hated the position they were in; they could not reach the
point of analyzing their predicament. So they turned to conspiratorial
explanations.
>
> Sound familiar? No stable profession or job? B../D.../P.../...berg. 50
years old without a hope for the future. Filled with anger? The same group of
disgruntled nobodies.
>
> Human dust.
>
> It is the special characteristic of this class -- the urban bohemia -- that it
cannot think straight. It always seeks a scapegoat for its failures, and its
thinking is always conspiratorial.
>
> The declassed bohemia of 19th century Catholic Europe blamed its misfortunes
on a Jewish-Masonic conspiracy.
>
> The declassed bohemia of post-1918 Italy blamed its misfortunes on the
"antipatriotic" socialists.
>
> The declassed bohemia of post-1918 Germany blamed its misfortunes on a
Jewish-Masonic-Bolshevik conspiracy.
>
> The declassed elements of Spain in the 1930s blamed its misfortunes on a
Jewish-Masonic-Communist-anarchist conspiracy.
>
> The declassed bohemia of collapsing Serboslavia blamed its misfortunes on a
Catholic-Muslim-NATO conspiracy. The sociological profile is exact: aspirants
to employment in the raggedy-assed Tito bureaucracy, wannabe entrepreneurs who
become Belgrade mafiosi; "overeducated" placeseekers in the liberal professions,
including academia and what we now call media -- Yugoslavia had more unemployed
film critics than any country in history, and the Serbian press was and is as
bad as it was a century ago; ruined trade and craft workers and peasants -- the
Balkans had a hell of a lot of these; those demoralized by the pace and
difficulty of urban life to a point of unemployability, alcoholism, or mental
incompetence -- the Balkans were also full of these.
>
> There is even a declassed "bohemian" stratum in the Islamic countries --
indeed, it is enormous. In some countries they are known as the "teahouse
class." This class consists of those who fail to gain state employment, or to
start businesses, or who have too much education and no prospects, or whose
peasant holdings or trade and craft work have collapsed, or who cannot contend
with urban life. And of course they blame their misfortunes on the Jews and
America.
>
> The declassed bohemia of North Beach blames its misfortunes on the CIA-Nazi
conspiracy, and occasionally takes up the cudgels for Serboslav or Islamic
conspiratorialism. The teahouse class in Cairo = the coffeehouse class in San
Francisco.
>
> The situation has been much aggravated by the rise of the universities as,
essentially, glamorous diploma mills -- the mass fabrication of doctorates, etc.
-- and by the incredible overexpansion of the state bureaucracies worldwide
after 1945.
>
> .....o is a classic example of the semivagabond whose entire life is summed up
in a job checking ....limits for a bogus state institution. There were millions
of these types in Imperial Germany and Austria-Hungary. They had no real
education, no serious profession, but they got themselves parasitical posts in a
ridiculously overgrown state administration. Look at Hitler's father, the
petty customs collector. These jobs don't even exist today. ...
>
> Dildinski is there among the lackeys of the failed entepreneurs. No stable
profession, but marginal jobs for marginal enterprises that bloom in periods of
speculative accumulation and then collapse. Millions of such people were thrown
out of work in Germany under Versailles. They marched right into the Nazi
party.
>
> The Bay Area is loaded with overeducated placeseekers; its leftism is really
fascism.
>
> All of these types are filled with resentment. Resentment that they do not
have better jobs, that they are not recognized for their genius, etc. The
junior version is John W. Lindh.
>
> A century ago the socialist labor movement offered an alternative to all this:
the industrial workers had a productive position in society, and they embraced a
rational, nonconspiratorial radicalism. But that class no longer exists, and as
Franz Borkenau noted in the 1930s, German Communism turned from organizing the
workers to competing with the Nazis for votes from the armed bohemia. That was
the end of that, and it explains why the Commies of today have become fascists
-- defending Serbia, for example.
>
> The classic example of the "intellectual" as human dust: Hirschman.
>
> I fear the real Orwell/PKDick future will consist of a handful of serious
professionals -- those able to establish themselves in "letters and science" --
surrounded by a vast, limitless human desert of fakes, poseurs,
conspiratorialists, perverts, failures, losers, and scum.
>
> UFOmania is another example of this phenomenon: the declassed Americans and
Europeans baffled and besieged by the world look for yet another conspiratorial
escape hatch. Faced with too much science for them to understand, they flee
into pseudoscience.
>
> Not a pretty picture. The widow McVeigh and Dildinski do more to establish
fascism in America with every cappuccino they drink than an army of a million
Byelorussian exiles, bankrolled by General Motors, General Mills, and General
Foods, and commanded by General MacArthur, could ever have accomplished.
>
> Stephen Schwartz
--
"What I cannot create. I do not understand." Richard Feynman
We need to distinguish legitimate UFO research such as yours and NIDS from the
huge amount of disinformation and misinformation on the subject from the "human
dust" that Schwartz describes. The "UFO" issue is complex and is part of a psy
ops from different states and groups as is "esp". It's not science as usual but
involves politics and intelligence matters.
bruce maccabee wrote:
> Ayatollah(?) Schwartz wrote
> >> The classic example of the "intellectual" as human dust: Hirschman.
> >
> > I fear the real Orwell/PKDick future will consist of a handful of serious
> professionals -- those able to establish themselves in "letters and
> science" -- surrounded by a vast, limitless human desert of fakes, poseurs,
> conspiratorialists, perverts, failures, losers, and scum.
> >
> > UFOmania is another example of this phenomenon: the declassed Americans
> and Europeans baffled and besieged by the world look for yet another
> conspiratorial escape hatch. Faced with too much science for them to
> understand, they flee into pseudoscience.
> >
>
We see this with for example Rense.com. It also wrecked Joe Firmage as I
witnessed first hand.
>
>
> Regardless of the impact of UFO sightings on fascist tendencies of
> witnesses and others ("hearers of the word,")
> let me just make it clear that the observational evidence is not a result
> of wishful thinking by religious or political "nuts."
>
> How the observational evidence is USED by religious or political nuts
> (psychoceramics or "cracked pots") is, however,
> related to the arguments raised here. All one has to do is note how UFO
> sightings/observations have been embraced by hopeful new agers (space
> brothers and all that).
Yes, that's part of what Steve is alluding to I think. Also note how UFO mania
has been hijacked by Danny Sheehan as part of his anti-Bush anti-militarization
of space. First Danny hooks up with Steve Greer and is now with Carol Rosin who
has apparently hoodwinked Arthur C Clarke and Ed Mitchell into Danny's "bait and
switch" shell game in which
Peace with ET => US Naked and Defenseless in Space
--
"What I cannot create. I do not understand." Richard Feynman
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Stephen Schwartz wrote to Bruce Meland:
> Sorry, wrong answer.
>
> The use of the term "corporate fascism" to describe present day U.S.
capitalism is an infallible sign of a person who has never seriously studied
economics or history.
>
> To begin with, it is necessary to make distinctions. That is, one must
understand that not everything one dislikes or resents is fascism. Fascism is a
special phenomenon: the open police dictatorship of a single ideological ruling
party resting on the middle class.
>
> American lefty dumbasses argue this way:
>
> "The media is characterized by a tendency toward a single viewpoint, and since
the imposition of a single viewpoint would be fascism, well, it's kinda like
fascism, and I in my ignorance think it's inevitably leading to fascism, so it
must be the same as fascism."
>
> "The corporations are powerful enough to at times suppress opposition, and
since power is the object of fascism, and it all seems to be heading in that
direction, it must be fascism."
>
> No amount of bullshit conspiracy rhetoric can make the FBI the same as the
Gestapo, no matter how many people psych themselves up to believe it's the same
by watching the X-Files or reading the widow McVeigh.
Whose main source for that stuff is Jeff Rense.
>
> No amount of bullshit conspiracy theory can make the Republican party the same
as the Nazi party, no matter how many people jerk themselves off with exile Nazi
emigre fantasies a la Dildinski.
>
> The FBI does things people don't like but it is accountable, and juries in the
U.S. find against prosecutions in FBI-run cases all the time.
>
> In Nazi Germany, fascist Italy and Spain, the secret police was not
accountable, and there were almost no court trials that resulted in the
repudiation of police evidence.
>
> The Republican party has to win elections. The Nazi party did not have to win
elections after Hitler took over.
>
> A person who does not perceive the difference between ordinary,
business-as-usual capitalism in the industrial democracies, and fascism, is not
only stupid. Such a person is dangerous, and in most cases is himself a
fascist.
That's the truth. I second that insight.
>
>
> I challenge anybody to define for me the difference between so called
"corporate fascism" as it exists in America today and capitalism as it has
existed everywhere since the depression, i.e. with state controls of various
kinds. Better, I withdraw the challenge. I don't need 100 email screeds from
idiots.
>
> The merest moron should be able to notice the difference between capitalism
today where corporations are constantly held up to public investigation and
exposure, and capitalism in, say, 1900, when the writ of the railroad, oil, and
other corporations was law in much of the U.S.
>
> An even stupider person should be able to recognize the difference between
voting in America and not voting in Nazi Germany -- spare me the exaggerated
comparisons. Bullshits won't fill the gap here.
>
> If you don't know the difference between ordinary capitalism and fascism you
will not be useful in opposing fascism.
Another key insight! Bravo!
>
>
> Indeed, when I look at the widow McVeighs, Dildinskis, and other people
shouting that Bush is a fascist I conclude it is the shouters who are the
fascists. They fantasize that Bush has a power they will never have but wish
they had. The powerless thus dream of total power. Total power obviously
explains their powerlessness. (Widow) McVeigh and Paul Dildinski have more of
the characteristics of the fascist personality -- conspiratorialism, seething
resentment, impotence, lack of a stable profession -- than anybody in the Bush
administration.
>
> Huey Long said when fascism comes to America it'll be called antifascism.
Obviously, he was right. Fascist [Widow McVeigh] and [Dildinski] claim to be
antifascists while promoting fascist conspiratorialism
>
> "Corporate fascism" should be used exclusively to refer to a specific state
form in which the constitution is explicitly based on official bodies of
representatives drawn from industry, the professions, etc.
>
> Terminology exists in politics to clarify, not confuse distinctions.
>
> Stephen Schwartz
> bruce meland <etimes@...> wrote:
>
> Yes Stephen what you wrote below is true but the big enemy of the people
> today is Corporate Fascism. Enron and the Bush connection is a classic
> example. Monsanto and its human and environmental poison products that it
> is thrusting on the masses today is another example. Bruce
> www.electrifyingtimes.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jack Sarfatti
> Newsgroups: sci.skeptic
> To: Stephen Schwartz
> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 5:35 PM
> Subject: Fascism Today
>
>
> bcc list sent to all the usual suspects
>
> This is a brilliant analysis to ponder as one looks in the mirror
especially
> after the New Age Dotty.Commie Trash Crash! ;-)
>
> Stephen Schwartz wrote:
>
> > Let me explain something to you and all your correspondents about
fascism
> and the misuse of the term.
> >
> > Fascism was a mass! movement of the disfranchised and disgruntled
middle
> classes in Europe, whose position was threatened by social instability:
that
> of the Italian regime in the face of proletarian revolution after World
War
> I, in the case of Mussolini's movement, and by the economic hardships in
> Germany following the collapse of the empire in the same war, in the case
of
> Hitler.
> >
> > Konrad Heiden, an anti-Stalin leftist and the first great biographer of
> Hitler, wrote the earliest really useful social analysis of fascism. He
> described its beginning as a movement of "armed intellectuals," then
> becoming a movement of the "armed bohemia." Trotsky carried this analysis
> forward, but being blunter, described fascism as "the panicked radicalism
of
> the ruined and crazed petit bourgeoisie," a movement composed of "human
> dust." (Of course Butt Packer thinks Heiden is a poor historian...)
> >
> > "Human dust." Let us examine what this term and "armed bo! hemia" mean.
> >
> > Beginning in the 19th century, with the exponential growth of the great
> European cities, interesting sociological developments are noticeable.
> >
> > Prior to then, society was composed of fairly stable classes: the
> aristocracy and church, the commercial bourgeoisie, the trade and craft
> productive class, the peasantry, and, weak but noticeable, the
preindustrial
> wage-working class. Trade and craft workers were paid for their products;
> wage workers for their time.
> >
> > With the new rise of the cities, the decline of the old ruling and
> trade/craft classes, the growth of the commercial and protoindustrial
> bourgeoisie, ruination of the peasantry, and the continuing development
of
> the protoindustrial working class are all visible. But other sociological
> phenomena are also perceptible. A new caste or class emerges -- the
> inferior section of the petit bourgeoisie, consisting of:
> >
> > aspiring st! ate office holders;
> >
> > parasitical entrepreneurs unable to establish a firm place in the new
> economy;
> >
> > "overeducated" but mediocre placeseekers in the liberal professions,
> including academia and what we now call media;
> >
> > ruined trade and craft workers and peasants, devastated by the new
> economy;
> >
> > those who migrated from the country to the city and became demoralized,
> along with other declassed elements, by the pace and difficulty of urban
> life, to a point of unemployability, alcoholism, criminality, and mental
> incompetence.
> >
> > This vast array of unstable elements formed the bohemian class in the
> cities.
> >
> > They seldom had fixed jobs. They were filled with resentment at their
> failure to establish themselves in society. Some of them were also
enraged
> at the social and economic changes that had deprived them of their place
in
> society. But most of them just hated the po! sition they were in; they
could
> not reach the point of analyzing their predicament. So they turned to
> conspiratorial explanations.
> >
> > Sound familiar? No stable profession or job? B../D.../P.../...berg. 50
> years old without a hope for the future. Filled with anger? The same
group
> of disgruntled nobodies.
> >
> > Human dust.
> >
> > It is the special characteristic of this class -- the urban bohemia --
> that it cannot think straight. It always seeks a scapegoat for its
> failures, and its thinking is always conspiratorial.
> >
> > The declassed bohemia of 19th century Catholic Europe blamed its
> misfortunes on a Jewish-Masonic conspiracy.
> >
> > The declassed bohemia of post-1918 Italy blamed its misfortunes on the
> "antipatriotic" socialists.
> >
> > The declassed bohemia of post-1918 Germany blamed its misfortunes on a
> Jewish-Masonic-Bolshevik conspiracy.
> >
> > The declassed elements of Spain! in the 1930s blamed its misfortunes on
a
> Jewish-Masonic-Communist-anarchist conspiracy.
> >
> > The declassed bohemia of collapsing Serboslavia blamed its misfortunes
on
> a Catholic-Muslim-NATO conspiracy. The sociological profile is exact:
> aspirants to employment in the raggedy-assed Tito bureaucracy, wannabe
> entrepreneurs who become Belgrade mafiosi; "overeducated" placeseekers in
> the liberal professions, including academia and what we now call media --
> Yugoslavia had more unemployed film critics than any country in history,
and
> the Serbian press was and is as bad as it was a century ago; ruined trade
> and craft workers and peasants -- the Balkans had a hell of a lot of
these;
> those demoralized by the pace and difficulty of urban life to a point of
> unemployability, alcoholism, or mental incompetence -- the Balkans were
also
> full of these.
> >
> > There is even a declassed "bohemian" stratum in the Islamic countries
--
> indeed! , it is enormous. In some countries they are known as the
"teahouse
> class." This class consists of those who fail to gain state employment,
or
> to start businesses, or who have too much education and no prospects, or
> whose peasant holdings or trade and craft work have collapsed, or who
cannot
> contend with urban life. And of course they blame their misfortunes on
the
> Jews and America.
> >
> > The declassed bohemia of North Beach blames its misfortunes on the
> CIA-Nazi conspiracy, and occasionally takes up the cudgels for Serboslav
or
> Islamic conspiratorialism. The teahouse class in Cairo = the coffeehouse
> class in San Francisco.
> >
> > The situation has been much aggravated by the rise of the universities
as,
> essentially, glamorous diploma mills -- the mass fabrication of
doctorates,
> etc. -- and by the incredible overexpansion of the state bureaucracies
> worldwide after 1945.
> >
> > .....o is a classic example of the semiv! agabond whose entire life is
> summed up in a job checking ....limits for a bogus state institution.
There
> were millions of these types in Imperial Germany and Austria-Hungary.
They
> had no real education, no serious profession, but they got themselves
> parasitical posts in a ridiculously overgrown state administration. Look
> at Hitler's father, the petty customs collector. These jobs don't even
> exist today. ...
> >
> > Dildinski is there among the lackeys of the failed entepreneurs. No
> stable profession, but marginal jobs for marginal enterprises that bloom
in
> periods of speculative accumulation and then collapse. Millions of such
> people were thrown out of work in Germany under Versailles. They marched
> right into the Nazi party.
> >
> > The Bay Area is loaded with overeducated placeseekers; its leftism is
> really fascism.
> >
> > All of these types are filled with resentment. Resentment that they do
> not have better jobs, t! hat they are not recognized for their genius,
etc.
> The junior version is John W. Lindh.
> >
> > A century ago the socialist labor movement offered an alternative to
all
> this: the industrial workers had a productive position in society, and
they
> embraced a rational, nonconspiratorial radicalism. But that class no
longer
> exists, and as Franz Borkenau noted in the 1930s, German Communism turned
> from organizing the workers to competing with the Nazis for votes from
the
> armed bohemia. That was the end of that, and it explains why the Commies
of
> today have become fascists -- defending Serbia, for example.
> >
> > The classic example of the "intellectual" as human dust: Hirschman.
> >
> > I fear the real Orwell/PKDick future will consist of a handful of
serious
> professionals -- those able to establish themselves in "letters and
> science" -- surrounded by a vast, limitless human desert of fakes,
poseurs,
> conspiratorialists, perverts! , failures, losers, and scum.
> >
> > UFOmania is another example of this phenomenon: the declassed Americans
> and Europeans baffled and besieged by the world look for yet another
> conspiratorial escape hatch. Faced with too much science for them to
> understand, they flee into pseudoscience.
> >
> > Not a pretty picture. The widow McVeigh and Dildinski do more to
> establish fascism in America with every cappuccino they drink than an
army
> of a million Byelorussian exiles, bankrolled by General Motors, General
> Mills, and General Foods, and commanded by General MacArthur, could ever
> have accomplished.
> >
> > Stephen Schwartz
>
>
--
"What I cannot create. I do not understand." Richard Feynman
I will pass this on to the usual suspects. :-)
Professor Mosca, like Professor Schwartz, has, in the former, and does, in the
latter, consult in the US Intelligence Community at important anti-terrorist
policy-making levels. Both are experts in Russian literature.
Note: Life is complex - too complex for many who retreat into conspiratorial
pseudoscientific quasi religions e.g. "UFO MANIA" and "over-unity free energy"
This is a big big problem as recently seen in the very rapid disappearance of
millions of dollars with little to show for it from a well meaning person who
fell for a lot of Cargo Cult malarky. Note "UFO MANIA" is not same as serious
scientific work on alleged anomalous phenomena of all kinds as done for example
by Bruce Maccabee, NIDS, USAF and a few other sober competent reliable groups
like Roger D. Nelson and Dick Bierman in the paranormal field. However, the
signal to noise ratio in fringe fields is much too low. Schwartz and I have been
raising the bar much higher than hitherto. It's time to separate the wheat from
the chaff. This issue is considered, though not completely and not in enough
depth (another book), in my new book "Destiny Matrix" (soon to be released) from
a Schwartzian perspective. Destiny Matrix is primarily a
personal playful impressionistic memoir not a scholarly or scientific book,
though it has important scholarly and scientific ideas in it not found in any
other book. More traditionally written serious books are in the works to follow.
A free preview is at http://stardrive.org/Jack/Book.pdf 11 megabytes secure
embedded pdf - cannot be printed. Needs Acrobat Version 5 or newer to decrypt.
mosca wrote:
> Wow, once again the clear, steel trap logic of Steve Schwartz cuts to the
> core and gives such a refreshing and succinct view on the reality of
> political life today. The problem is it keeps me lazy because don't feel I
> have to bother responding when I know, eventually, Mr Schwartz will like the
> "Assyrians coming down like a wolf on the fold" arrive to rout the
> intellectually hapless. Now I know many may be put off by the fact that, to
> put it mildly, Mr. Schwartz does not suffer what he considers fools lightly.
> His rhetoric in these exchanges is in no way velvet gloved. But the stakes
> are high after all. Unless we can get a grip on how things are actually
> evolving, we can never have a prayer of pulling together truly useful,
> pragmatic responses that will save a free and hopefully prosperous future
> for all of humankind. So I suppose Mr. Schwartz is in a way being cruel to
> be kind, a sort of "tough love" approach that may shake the assumptions of
> some who are satisfied to feed on the nutritionally deprived brews of
> illusion and wishful thinking.
> By the by, Schwartz is a careful scholar whose point of view is not
> really well represented in his unsparing challenges to those who live on
> shibboleths alone. While his new book, The Two Faces of Islam" is not yet
> available[as least as far as I know] , a great read is "From West to East:
> California and the Making of the American Mind." I recommend it because
> there you will find a reasonable, truly liberal, in the classic sense of the
> word, scholar describing the growth of the American ethos and keeping always
> as his primary orientation a passion for individual freedom and a profound
> respect for the constitution and the evolving, precious entity known as the
> rule of law, which however imperfectly realized in our courts, is all that
> stands between us and the ravaging desertification of totalist ideological
> perspectives such as communism, fascism and the fundamentalist movements of
> our age. Beyond that he has a number of fine works on the Balkans, Kosovo,
> the situation in Chechnya etc., which only speak again to his patience at
> ferreting out the facts and trying to present a rational picture of how
> humans have moved toward or away from that elusive goal of individual
> freedom, respect for life and the establishment of the rule of law and what
> the painful consequences of those actions have been over time. For those of
> you who won't take the time, you can continue to see him as some caricatured
> right wing fanatic. For the few who may listen and look more deeply, be
> prepared to drop at least a few of your present illusions. Regards, Frank
> Mosca.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack Sarfatti" <sarfatti@...>
> Newsgroups: sci.skeptic,alt.politics.british
> To: "Stephen Schwartz" <karastjepan@...>
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 7:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Fascism Today PLEASE REDISTRIBUTE
>
> > to bcc list
> >
> > Stephen Schwartz wrote to Bruce Meland:
> >
> > > Sorry, wrong answer.
> > >
> > > The use of the term "corporate fascism" to describe present day U.S.
> capitalism is an infallible sign of a person who has never seriously studied
> economics or history.
> > >
> > > To begin with, it is necessary to make distinctions. That is, one must
> understand that not everything one dislikes or resents is fascism. Fascism
> is a special phenomenon: the open police dictatorship of a single
> ideological ruling party resting on the middle class.
> > >
> > > American lefty dumbasses argue this way:
> > >
> > > "The media is characterized by a tendency toward a single viewpoint, and
> since the imposition of a single viewpoint would be fascism, well, it's
> kinda like fascism, and I in my ignorance think it's inevitably leading to
> fascism, so it must be the same as fascism."
> > >
> > > "The corporations are powerful enough to at times suppress opposition,
> and since power is the object of fascism, and it all seems to be heading in
> that direction, it must be fascism."
> > >
> > > No amount of bullshit conspiracy rhetoric can make the FBI the same as
> the Gestapo, no matter how many people psych themselves up to believe it's
> the same by watching the X-Files or reading the widow McVeigh.
> >
> > >
> > > No amount of bullshit conspiracy theory can make the Republican party
> the same as the Nazi party, no matter how many people jerk themselves off
> with exile Nazi emigre fantasies a la Dildinski.
> > >
> > > The FBI does things people don't like but it is accountable, and juries
> in the U.S. find against prosecutions in FBI-run cases all the time.
> > >
> > > In Nazi Germany, fascist Italy and Spain, the secret police was not
> accountable, and there were almost no court trials that resulted in the
> repudiation of police evidence.
> > >
> > > The Republican party has to win elections. The Nazi party did not have
> to win elections after Hitler took over.
> > >
> > > A person who does not perceive the difference between ordinary,
> business-as-usual capitalism in the industrial democracies, and fascism, is
> not only stupid. Such a person is dangerous, and in most cases is himself a
> fascist.
> >
> > That's the truth. I second that insight.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I challenge anybody to define for me the difference between so called
> "corporate fascism" as it exists in America today and capitalism as it has
> existed everywhere since the depression, i.e. with state controls of various
> kinds. Better, I withdraw the challenge. I don't need 100 email screeds
> from idiots.
> > >
> > > The merest moron should be able to notice the difference between
> capitalism today where corporations are constantly held up to public
> investigation and exposure, and capitalism in, say, 1900, when the writ of
> the railroad, oil, and other corporations was law in much of the U.S.
> > >
> > > An even stupider person should be able to recognize the difference
> between voting in America and not voting in Nazi Germany -- spare me the
> exaggerated comparisons. Bullshits won't fill the gap here.
> > >
> > > If you don't know the difference between ordinary capitalism and fascism
> you will not be useful in opposing fascism.
> >
> > Another key insight! Bravo!
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Indeed, when I look at the widow McVeighs, Dildinskis, and other people
> shouting that Bush is a fascist I conclude it is the shouters who are the
> fascists. They fantasize that Bush has a power they will never have but
> wish they had. The powerless thus dream of total power. Total power
> obviously explains their powerlessness. (Widow) McVeigh and Paul Dildinski
> have more of the characteristics of the fascist personality --
> conspiratorialism, seething resentment, impotence, lack of a stable
> profession -- than anybody in the Bush administration.
> > >
> > > Huey Long said when fascism comes to America it'll be called
> antifascism. Obviously, he was right. Fascist [Widow McVeigh] and
> [Dildinski] claim to be antifascists while promoting fascist
> conspiratorialism
> > >
> > > "Corporate fascism" should be used exclusively to refer to a specific
> state form in which the constitution is explicitly based on official bodies
> of representatives drawn from industry, the professions, etc.
> > >
> > > Terminology exists in politics to clarify, not confuse distinctions.
> > >
> > > Stephen Schwartz
> > > bruce meland <etimes@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes Stephen what you wrote below is true but the big enemy of the
> people
> > > today is Corporate Fascism. Enron and the Bush connection is a
> classic
> > > example. Monsanto and its human and environmental poison products
> that it
> > > is thrusting on the masses today is another example. Bruce
> > > www.electrifyingtimes.com
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Jack Sarfatti
> > > Newsgroups: sci.skeptic
> > > To: Stephen Schwartz
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 5:35 PM
> > > Subject: Fascism Today
> > >
> > >
> > > bcc list sent to all the usual suspects
> > >
> > > This is a brilliant analysis to ponder a...
> > >
> > > Stephen Schwartz wrote:
> > >
> > > > Let me explain something to you and all your correspondents about
> fascism
> > > and the misuse of the term.
> > > >
> > > > Fascism was a mass! movement of the disfranchised and disgruntled
> middle
> > > classes in Europe, whose position was threatened by social
> instability: that
> > > of the Italian regime in the face of proletarian revolution after
> World War
> > > I, in the case of Mussolini's movement, and by the economic
> hardships in
> > > Germany following the collapse of the empire in the same war, in
> the case of
> > > Hitler.
> > > >
> > > > Konrad Heiden, an anti-Stalin leftist and the first great
> biographer of
> > > Hitler, wrote the earliest really useful social analysis of
> fascism. He
> > > described its beginning as a movement of "armed intellectuals,"
> then
> > > becoming a movement of the "armed bohemia." Trotsky carried this
> analysis
> > > forward, but being blunter, described fascism as "the panicked
> radicalism of
> > > the ruined and crazed petit bourgeoisie," a movement composed of
> "human
> > > dust." (Of course Butt Packer thinks Heiden is a poor historian...)
> > > >
> > > > "Human dust." Let us examine what this term and "armed bo! hemia"
> mean.
> > > >
> > > > Beginning in the 19th century, with the exponential growth of the
> great
> > > European cities, interesting sociological developments are
> noticeable.
> > > >
> > > > Prior to then, society was composed of fairly stable classes: the
> > > aristocracy and church, the commercial bourgeoisie, the trade and
> craft
> > > productive class, the peasantry, and, weak but noticeable, the
> preindustrial
> > > wage-working class. Trade and craft workers were paid for their
> products;
> > > wage workers for their time.
> > > >
> > > > With the new rise of the cities, the decline of the old ruling
> and
> > > trade/craft classes, the growth of the commercial and
> protoindustrial
> > > bourgeoisie, ruination of the peasantry, and the continuing
> development of
> > > the protoindustrial working class are all visible. But other
> sociological
> > > phenomena are also perceptible. A new caste or class emerges -- the
> > > inferior section of the petit bourgeoisie, consisting of:
> > > >
> > > > aspiring st! ate office holders;
> > > >
> > > > parasitical entrepreneurs unable to establish a firm place in the
> new
> > > economy;
> > > >
> > > > "overeducated" but mediocre placeseekers in the liberal
> professions,
> > > including academia and what we now call media;
> > > >
> > > > ruined trade and craft workers and peasants, devastated by the
> new
> > > economy;
> > > >
> > > > those who migrated from the country to the city and became
> demoralized,
> > > along with other declassed elements, by the pace and difficulty of
> urban
> > > life, to a point of unemployability, alcoholism, criminality, and
> mental
> > > incompetence.
> > > >
> > > > This vast array of unstable elements formed the bohemian class in
> the
> > > cities.
> > > >
> > > > They seldom had fixed jobs. They were filled with resentment at
> their
> > > failure to establish themselves in society. Some of them were also
> enraged
> > > at the social and economic changes that had deprived them of their
> place in
> > > society. But most of them just hated the po! sition they were in;
> they could
> > > not reach the point of analyzing their predicament. So they turned
> to
> > > conspiratorial explanations.
> > > >
> > > > Sound familiar? No stable profession or job?
> B../D.../P.../...berg. 50
> > > years old without a hope for the future. Filled with anger? The
> same group
> > > of disgruntled nobodies.
> > > >
> > > > Human dust.
> > > >
> > > > It is the special characteristic of this class -- the urban
> bohemia --
> > > that it cannot think straight. It always seeks a scapegoat for its
> > > failures, and its thinking is always conspiratorial.
> > > >
> > > > The declassed bohemia of 19th century Catholic Europe blamed its
> > > misfortunes on a Jewish-Masonic conspiracy.
> > > >
> > > > The declassed bohemia of post-1918 Italy blamed its misfortunes
> on the
> > > "antipatriotic" socialists.
> > > >
> > > > The declassed bohemia of post-1918 Germany blamed its misfortunes
> on a
> > > Jewish-Masonic-Bolshevik conspiracy.
> > > >
> > > > The declassed elements of Spain! in the 1930s blamed its
> misfortunes on a
> > > Jewish-Masonic-Communist-anarchist conspiracy.
> > > >
> > > > The declassed bohemia of collapsing Serboslavia blamed its
> misfortunes on
> > > a Catholic-Muslim-NATO conspiracy. The sociological profile is
> exact:
> > > aspirants to employment in the raggedy-assed Tito bureaucracy,
> wannabe
> > > entrepreneurs who become Belgrade mafiosi; "overeducated"
> placeseekers in
> > > the liberal professions, including academia and what we now call
> media --
> > > Yugoslavia had more unemployed film critics than any country in
> history, and
> > > the Serbian press was and is as bad as it was a century ago; ruined
> trade
> > > and craft workers and peasants -- the Balkans had a hell of a lot
> of these;
> > > those demoralized by the pace and difficulty of urban life to a
> point of
> > > unemployability, alcoholism, or mental incompetence -- the Balkans
> were also
> > > full of these.
> > > >
> > > > There is even a declassed "bohemian" stratum in the Islamic
> countries --
> > > indeed! , it is enormous. In some countries they are known as the
> "teahouse
> > > class." This class consists of those who fail to gain state
> employment, or
> > > to start businesses, or who have too much education and no
> prospects, or
> > > whose peasant holdings or trade and craft work have collapsed, or
> who cannot
> > > contend with urban life. And of course they blame their misfortunes
> on the
> > > Jews and America.
> > > >
> > > > The declassed bohemia of North Beach blames its misfortunes on
> the
> > > CIA-Nazi conspiracy, and occasionally takes up the cudgels for
> Serboslav or
> > > Islamic conspiratorialism. The teahouse class in Cairo = the
> coffeehouse
> > > class in San Francisco.
> > > >
> > > > The situation has been much aggravated by the rise of the
> universities as,
> > > essentially, glamorous diploma mills -- the mass fabrication of
> doctorates,
> > > etc. -- and by the incredible overexpansion of the state
> bureaucracies
> > > worldwide after 1945.
> > > >
> > > > .....o is a classic example of the semiv! agabond whose entire
> life is
> > > summed up in a job checking ....limits for a bogus state
> institution. There
> > > were millions of these types in Imperial Germany and
> Austria-Hungary. They
> > > had no real education, no serious profession, but they got
> themselves
> > > parasitical posts in a ridiculously overgrown state administration.
> Look
> > > at Hitler's father, the petty customs collector. These jobs don't
> even
> > > exist today. ...
> > > >
> > > > Dildinski is there among the lackeys of the failed entepreneurs.
> No
> > > stable profession, but marginal jobs for marginal enterprises that
> bloom in
> > > periods of speculative accumulation and then collapse. Millions of
> such
> > > people were thrown out of work in Germany under Versailles. They
> marched
> > > right into the Nazi party.
> > > >
> > > > The Bay Area is loaded with overeducated placeseekers; its
> leftism is
> > > really fascism.
> > > >
> > > > All of these types are filled with resentment. Resentment that
> they do
> > > not have better jobs, that they are not recognized for their
> genius, etc.
> > > The junior version is John Lindh.
> > > >
> > > > A century ago the socialist labor movement offered an alternative
> to all
> > > this: the industrial workers had a productive position in society,
> and they
> > > embraced a rational, nonconspiratorial radicalism. But that class
> no longer
> > > exists, and as Franz Borkenau noted in the 1930s, German Communism
> turned
> > > from organizing the workers to competing with the Nazis for votes
> from the
> > > armed bohemia. That was the end of that, and it explains why the
> Commies of
> > > today have become fascists -- defending Serbia, for example.
> > > >
> > > > The classic example of the "intellectual" as human dust:
> Hirschman.
> > > >
> > > > I fear the real Orwell/PKDick future will consist of a handful of
> serious
> > > professionals -- those able to establish themselves in "letters and
> > > science" -- surrounded by a vast, limitless human desert of fakes,
> poseurs,
> > > conspiratorialists, perverts! , failures, losers, and scum.
> > > >
> > > > UFOmania is another example of this phenomenon: the declassed
> Americans
> > > and Europeans baffled and besieged by the world look for yet
> another
> > > conspiratorial escape hatch. Faced with too much science for them
> to
> > > understand, they flee into pseudoscience.
> > > >
> > > > Not a pretty picture. The widow McVeigh and Dildinski do more to
> > > establish fascism in America with every cappuccino they drink than
> an army
> > > of a million Byelorussian exiles, bankrolled by General Motors,
> General
> > > Mills, and General Foods, and commanded by General MacArthur, could
> ever
> > > have accomplished.
> > > >
--
"What I cannot create. I do not understand." Richard Feynman
Paul Zielinski wrote:
> Jack Sarfatti wrote:
>
> [deleted]
>
> > mosca wrote:
> >
> > > Wow, once again the clear, steel trap logic of Steve Schwartz cuts to the
> > > core and gives such a refreshing and succinct view on the reality of
> > > political life today. The problem is it keeps me lazy because don't feel I
> > > have to bother responding when I know, eventually, Mr Schwartz will like
the
> > > "Assyrians coming down like a wolf on the fold" arrive to rout the
> > > intellectually hapless.
>
[Paul]
> To those familiar with Schwartz's "thinking", and with the most rudimentary
> acquaintance with the facts at issue, it must appear that with the above
"Professor"
> Mosca has just shot himself in the head.
[Jack]
We must distinguish Steve in Caffe Trieste playing with you, or Kim, and any of
us, with his professional writing. Professor Mosca is a heavyweight. You can see
that from his writing. He is one of Steve's peers and he is judging Steve's
professional writing. For any of us, Kim, you, and even me, to challenge Steve
in his expertise is like Joe Mirage trying to tell me how physics really works
and what the important issues are. It is simply fatuous to do so. I am keenly
sensitive to the limits of my own expertise - indeed this is needed to get a
Ph.D. in theoretical physics, or in any field, from a good university. Being
objective, and like Professor Mosca putting Steve's humorous caricatures like
"widow McVeigh" and "Dildinski" in perspective - great characters for a play BTW
along with Joe Mirage (Steve prefers Joe Garbage), Damnation Smith, Wacky Jacky,
Mata Hari Rosinberg, Danny Sheehit, Gary Suckoff etc.etc. of course. Like any
good caricature, Steve has aptly amplified one tendency
in the actual person into a cartoon character that illustrates a deep truth. I
do not think Professor Mosca has shot himself in the head. His writing is
superb. One must be objective and not be blinded by petty Caffe psychodramatic
squabbles.
> Professor Mosca wrote:
>
> > >Now I know many may be put off by the fact that, to
> > > put it mildly, Mr. Schwartz does not suffer what he considers fools
lightly.
> > > His rhetoric in these exchanges is in no way velvet gloved. But the stakes
> > > are high after all. Unless we can get a grip on how things are actually
> > > evolving, we can never have a prayer of pulling together truly useful,
> > > pragmatic responses that will save a free and hopefully prosperous future
> > > for all of humankind. So I suppose Mr. Schwartz is in a way being cruel to
> > > be kind, a sort of "tough love" approach that may shake the assumptions of
> > > some who are satisfied to feed on the nutritionally deprived brews of
> > > illusion and wishful thinking.
>
[Paul]
> So "Professor" Mosca and "Professor" Schwartz, having awarded themselves
> medals and commendations, now slap each other on the back and try to make
> it look like they are actually saying something.
[Jack]
Paul, you are not being objective here. Both of these men have good credentials.
Steve publishes in major media like the Wall Street Journal and appearson major
policy issues on major TV News, he is not merely shouting from a table in the
Caffe Trieste.
> [Paul]
> This is a defining characteristic of pseudo-scholarship.
[Jack]
Paul, I commented on their standing. They did not. You are not being rational
here. I know things about Professor Mosca that I cannot reveal. You are simply
making a fool of yourself, like Joe Mirage, on this one corroborating Steve's
caricature. You should back off on this issue - remember our last conversation
in Trieste what you wanted to get into? It is you who is shooting yourself in
the head because your emotions vis a vis your interaction with Steve in North
Beach is blinding your perception. Just stick to the text like graduate students
in the humanities are taught to do. Both my wives were grad students in English
literary criticism so I am speaking from those memories. Remember Steve is able
to live well on his intellectual work and hob nobs with the powerful in
Washington DC and New York City - this should give you pause. Look at the
reality of his situation and yours and think objectively what it means and
whether or not Steve's descriptions are not essentially accurate? I
am attempting to be an objective and fair witness here. Facts are facts. Steve
is paid by important institutions for his political opinions and recognized
expertise. Are you? There is significance in this. Ponder it.
>
>
> > > By the by, Schwartz is a careful scholar whose point of view is not
> > > really well represented in his unsparing challenges to those who live on
> > > shibboleths alone.
>
[Paul]
> Yes, Schwartz is such a "careful scholar" that he has categorically dismissed
a set
> of objectively verifiable historical facts that have been extensively reported
in print
> by several widely respected authors, and are largely a matter of public
record, as --
> and I quote -- "a bullshit conspiracy theory".
>
> Note that in this hagiographic exercise, Mosca nowhere touches on the facts
> at issue -- a sure sign of abject intellectual exhaustion in this debate.
>
> This is the problem with kept "scholars" and court historians.
>
> > While his new book, The Two Faces of Islam" is not yet
> > > available[as least as far as I know] , a great read is "From West to
East:
> > > California and the Making of the American Mind." I recommend it because
> > > there you will find a reasonable, truly liberal, in the classic sense of
the
> > > word, scholar describing the growth of the American ethos and keeping
always
> > > as his primary orientation a passion for individual freedom and a profound
> > > respect for the constitution and the evolving, precious entity known as
the
> > > rule of law, which however imperfectly realized in our courts, is all that
> > > stands between us and the ravaging desertification of totalist ideological
> > > perspectives such as communism, fascism and the fundamentalist movements
of
> > > our age. Beyond that he has a number of fine works on the Balkans, Kosovo,
> > > the situation in Chechnya etc., which only speak again to his patience at
> > > ferreting out the facts and trying to present a rational picture of how
> > > humans have moved toward or away from that elusive goal of individual
> > > freedom, respect for life and the establishment of the rule of law and
what
> > > the painful consequences of those actions have been over time. For those
of
> > > you who won't take the time, you can continue to see him as some
caricatured
> > > right wing fanatic. For the few who may listen and look more deeply, be
> > > prepared to drop at least a few of your present illusions. Regards, Frank
Mosca.
>
> Oh yes, Schwartz is such a dedicated liberal -- that's why he shouts down with
wild
> personal insults and noisy rodomontades anyone who has the temerity to
question
> his sycophantic opinions.
[Jack]
Paul, you are confusing Caffe Trieste Schwartz blowing off steam in R&R with the
boys from Professional Schwartz immersed in the Power Elite that really runs the
country. I have seen Steve in both of these situations. You are underestimating
the man I assure you. My critics also underestimate me, so I know how it is. ;-)
Do not confuse Henry in his Falstaff days in the Pub with Henry as King.
Capiche?
>
> Sorry -- not impressed.
[Jack]
You should be.
>
>
> But at least Schwartz now has a reference for his next job application to the
Ministry
> of Truth...
>
> Z.
>
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jack Sarfatti" <sarfatti@...>
> > > Newsgroups: sci.skeptic,alt.politics.british
> > > To: "Stephen Schwartz" <karastjepan@...>
> > > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 7:48 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Fascism Today PLEASE REDISTRIBUTE
> > >
> > > > to bcc list
> > > >
> > > > Stephen Schwartz wrote to Bruce Meland:
> > > >
> > > > > Sorry, wrong answer.
> > > > >
> > > > > The use of the term "corporate fascism" to describe present day U.S.
> > > capitalism is an infallible sign of a person who has never seriously
studied
> > > economics or history.
> > > > >
> > > > > To begin with, it is necessary to make distinctions. That is, one
must
> > > understand that not everything one dislikes or resents is fascism.
Fascism
> > > is a special phenomenon: the open police dictatorship of a single
> > > ideological ruling party resting on the middle class.
> > > > >
> > > > > American lefty dumbasses argue this way:
> > > > >
> > > > > "The media is characterized by a tendency toward a single viewpoint,
and
> > > since the imposition of a single viewpoint would be fascism, well, it's
> > > kinda like fascism, and I in my ignorance think it's inevitably leading to
> > > fascism, so it must be the same as fascism."
> > > > >
> > > > > "The corporations are powerful enough to at times suppress opposition,
> > > and since power is the object of fascism, and it all seems to be heading
in
> > > that direction, it must be fascism."
> > > > >
> > > > > No amount of bullshit conspiracy rhetoric can make the FBI the same as
> > > the Gestapo, no matter how many people psych themselves up to believe it's
> > > the same by watching the X-Files or reading the widow McVeigh.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > No amount of bullshit conspiracy theory can make the Republican party
> > > the same as the Nazi party, no matter how many people jerk themselves off
> > > with exile Nazi emigre fantasies a la Dildinski.
> > > > >
> > > > > The FBI does things people don't like but it is accountable, and
juries
> > > in the U.S. find against prosecutions in FBI-run cases all the time.
> > > > >
> > > > > In Nazi Germany, fascist Italy and Spain, the secret police was not
> > > accountable, and there were almost no court trials that resulted in the
> > > repudiation of police evidence.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Republican party has to win elections. The Nazi party did not
have
> > > to win elections after Hitler took over.
> > > > >
> > > > > A person who does not perceive the difference between ordinary,
> > > business-as-usual capitalism in the industrial democracies, and fascism,
is
> > > not only stupid. Such a person is dangerous, and in most cases is himself
a
> > > fascist.
> > > >
> > > > That's the truth. I second that insight.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I challenge anybody to define for me the difference between so called
> > > "corporate fascism" as it exists in America today and capitalism as it has
> > > existed everywhere since the depression, i.e. with state controls of
various
> > > kinds. Better, I withdraw the challenge. I don't need 100 email screeds
> > > from idiots.
> > > > >
> > > > > The merest moron should be able to notice the difference between
> > > capitalism today where corporations are constantly held up to public
> > > investigation and exposure, and capitalism in, say, 1900, when the writ of
> > > the railroad, oil, and other corporations was law in much of the U.S.
> > > > >
> > > > > An even stupider person should be able to recognize the difference
> > > between voting in America and not voting in Nazi Germany -- spare me the
> > > exaggerated comparisons. Bullshits won't fill the gap here.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you don't know the difference between ordinary capitalism and
fascism
> > > you will not be useful in opposing fascism.
> > > >
> > > > Another key insight! Bravo!
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Indeed, when I look at the widow McVeighs, Dildinskis, and other
people
> > > shouting that Bush is a fascist I conclude it is the shouters who are the
> > > fascists. They fantasize that Bush has a power they will never have but
> > > wish they had. The powerless thus dream of total power. Total power
> > > obviously explains their powerlessness. (Widow) McVeigh and Paul
Dildinski
> > > have more of the characteristics of the fascist personality --
> > > conspiratorialism, seething resentment, impotence, lack of a stable
> > > profession -- than anybody in the Bush administration.
> > > > >
> > > > > Huey Long said when fascism comes to America it'll be called
> > > antifascism. Obviously, he was right. Fascist [Widow McVeigh] and
> > > [Dildinski] claim to be antifascists while promoting fascist
> > > conspiratorialism
> > > > >
> > > > > "Corporate fascism" should be used exclusively to refer to a specific
> > > state form in which the constitution is explicitly based on official
bodies
> > > of representatives drawn from industry, the professions, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Terminology exists in politics to clarify, not confuse distinctions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stephen Schwartz
> > > > > bruce meland <etimes@...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes Stephen what you wrote below is true but the big enemy of the
> > > people
> > > > > today is Corporate Fascism. Enron and the Bush connection is a
> > > classic
> > > > > example. Monsanto and its human and environmental poison products
> > > that it
> > > > > is thrusting on the masses today is another example. Bruce
> > > > > www.electrifyingtimes.com
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Jack Sarfatti
> > > > > Newsgroups: sci.skeptic
> > > > > To: Stephen Schwartz
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 5:35 PM
> > > > > Subject: Fascism Today
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > bcc list sent to all the usual suspects
> > > > >
> > > > > This is a brilliant analysis to ponder a...
> > > > >
> > > > > Stephen Schwartz wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Let me explain something to you and all your correspondents
about
> > > fascism
> > > > > and the misuse of the term.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fascism was a mass! movement of the disfranchised and
disgruntled
> > > middle
> > > > > classes in Europe, whose position was threatened by social
> > > instability: that
> > > > > of the Italian regime in the face of proletarian revolution after
> > > World War
> > > > > I, in the case of Mussolini's movement, and by the economic
> > > hardships in
> > > > > Germany following the collapse of the empire in the same war, in
> > > the case of
> > > > > Hitler.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Konrad Heiden, an anti-Stalin leftist and the first great
> > > biographer of
> > > > > Hitler, wrote the earliest really useful social analysis of
> > > fascism. He
> > > > > described its beginning as a movement of "armed intellectuals,"
> > > then
> > > > > becoming a movement of the "armed bohemia." Trotsky carried this
> > > analysis
> > > > > forward, but being blunter, described fascism as "the panicked
> > > radicalism of
> > > > > the ruined and crazed petit bourgeoisie," a movement composed of
> > > "human
> > > > > dust." (Of course Butt Packer thinks Heiden is a poor
historian...)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Human dust." Let us examine what this term and "armed bo!
hemia"
> > > mean.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Beginning in the 19th century, with the exponential growth of
the
> > > great
> > > > > European cities, interesting sociological developments are
> > > noticeable.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Prior to then, society was composed of fairly stable classes:
the
> > > > > aristocracy and church, the commercial bourgeoisie, the trade and
> > > craft
> > > > > productive class, the peasantry, and, weak but noticeable, the
> > > preindustrial
> > > > > wage-working class. Trade and craft workers were paid for their
> > > products;
> > > > > wage workers for their time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With the new rise of the cities, the decline of the old ruling
> > > and
> > > > > trade/craft classes, the growth of the commercial and
> > > protoindustrial
> > > > > bourgeoisie, ruination of the peasantry, and the continuing
> > > development of
> > > > > the protoindustrial working class are all visible. But other
> > > sociological
> > > > > phenomena are also perceptible. A new caste or class emerges --
the
> > > > > inferior section of the petit bourgeoisie, consisting of:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > aspiring st! ate office holders;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > parasitical entrepreneurs unable to establish a firm place in
the
> > > new
> > > > > economy;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "overeducated" but mediocre placeseekers in the liberal
> > > professions,
> > > > > including academia and what we now call media;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ruined trade and craft workers and peasants, devastated by the
> > > new
> > > > > economy;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > those who migrated from the country to the city and became
> > > demoralized,
> > > > > along with other declassed elements, by the pace and difficulty
of
> > > urban
> > > > > life, to a point of unemployability, alcoholism, criminality, and
> > > mental
> > > > > incompetence.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This vast array of unstable elements formed the bohemian class
in
> > > the
> > > > > cities.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They seldom had fixed jobs. They were filled with resentment at
> > > their
> > > > > failure to establish themselves in society. Some of them were
also
> > > enraged
> > > > > at the social and economic changes that had deprived them of
their
> > > place in
> > > > > society. But most of them just hated the po! sition they were in;
> > > they could
> > > > > not reach the point of analyzing their predicament. So they
turned
> > > to
> > > > > conspiratorial explanations.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sound familiar? No stable profession or job?
> > > B../D.../P.../...berg. 50
> > > > > years old without a hope for the future. Filled with anger? The
> > > same group
> > > > > of disgruntled nobodies.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Human dust.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is the special characteristic of this class -- the urban
> > > bohemia --
> > > > > that it cannot think straight. It always seeks a scapegoat for
its
> > > > > failures, and its thinking is always conspiratorial.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The declassed bohemia of 19th century Catholic Europe blamed
its
> > > > > misfortunes on a Jewish-Masonic conspiracy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The declassed bohemia of post-1918 Italy blamed its misfortunes
> > > on the
> > > > > "antipatriotic" socialists.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The declassed bohemia of post-1918 Germany blamed its
misfortunes
> > > on a
> > > > > Jewish-Masonic-Bolshevik conspiracy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The declassed elements of Spain! in the 1930s blamed its
> > > misfortunes on a
> > > > > Jewish-Masonic-Communist-anarchist conspiracy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The declassed bohemia of collapsing Serboslavia blamed its
> > > misfortunes on
> > > > > a Catholic-Muslim-NATO conspiracy. The sociological profile is
> > > exact:
> > > > > aspirants to employment in the raggedy-assed Tito bureaucracy,
> > > wannabe
> > > > > entrepreneurs who become Belgrade mafiosi; "overeducated"
> > > placeseekers in
> > > > > the liberal professions, including academia and what we now call
> > > media --
> > > > > Yugoslavia had more unemployed film critics than any country in
> > > history, and
> > > > > the Serbian press was and is as bad as it was a century ago;
ruined
> > > trade
> > > > > and craft workers and peasants -- the Balkans had a hell of a lot
> > > of these;
> > > > > those demoralized by the pace and difficulty of urban life to a
> > > point of
> > > > > unemployability, alcoholism, or mental incompetence -- the
Balkans
> > > were also
> > > > > full of these.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is even a declassed "bohemian" stratum in the Islamic
> > > countries --
> > > > > indeed! , it is enormous. In some countries they are known as the
> > > "teahouse
> > > > > class." This class consists of those who fail to gain state
> > > employment, or
> > > > > to start businesses, or who have too much education and no
> > > prospects, or
> > > > > whose peasant holdings or trade and craft work have collapsed, or
> > > who cannot
> > > > > contend with urban life. And of course they blame their
misfortunes
> > > on the
> > > > > Jews and America.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The declassed bohemia of North Beach blames its misfortunes on
> > > the
> > > > > CIA-Nazi conspiracy, and occasionally takes up the cudgels for
> > > Serboslav or
> > > > > Islamic conspiratorialism. The teahouse class in Cairo = the
> > > coffeehouse
> > > > > class in San Francisco.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The situation has been much aggravated by the rise of the
> > > universities as,
> > > > > essentially, glamorous diploma mills -- the mass fabrication of
> > > doctorates,
> > > > > etc. -- and by the incredible overexpansion of the state
> > > bureaucracies
> > > > > worldwide after 1945.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > .....o is a classic example of the semiv! agabond whose entire
> > > life is
> > > > > summed up in a job checking ....limits for a bogus state
> > > institution. There
> > > > > were millions of these types in Imperial Germany and
> > > Austria-Hungary. They
> > > > > had no real education, no serious profession, but they got
> > > themselves
> > > > > parasitical posts in a ridiculously overgrown state
administration.
> > > Look
> > > > > at Hitler's father, the petty customs collector. These jobs don't
> > > even
> > > > > exist today. ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dildinski is there among the lackeys of the failed
entepreneurs.
> > > No
> > > > > stable profession, but marginal jobs for marginal enterprises
that
> > > bloom in
> > > > > periods of speculative accumulation and then collapse. Millions
of
> > > such
> > > > > people were thrown out of work in Germany under Versailles. They
> > > marched
> > > > > right into the Nazi party.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Bay Area is loaded with overeducated placeseekers; its
> > > leftism is
> > > > > really fascism.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All of these types are filled with resentment. Resentment that
> > > they do
> > > > > not have better jobs, that they are not recognized for their
> > > genius, etc.
> > > > > The junior version is John Lindh.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A century ago the socialist labor movement offered an
alternative
> > > to all
> > > > > this: the industrial workers had a productive position in
society,
> > > and they
> > > > > embraced a rational, nonconspiratorial radicalism. But that class
> > > no longer
> > > > > exists, and as Franz Borkenau noted in the 1930s, German
Communism
> > > turned
> > > > > from organizing the workers to competing with the Nazis for votes
> > > from the
> > > > > armed bohemia. That was the end of that, and it explains why the
> > > Commies of
> > > > > today have become fascists -- defending Serbia, for example.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The classic example of the "intellectual" as human dust:
> > > Hirschman.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I fear the real Orwell/PKDick future will consist of a handful
of
> > > serious
> > > > > professionals -- those able to establish themselves in "letters
and
> > > > > science" -- surrounded by a vast, limitless human desert of
fakes,
> > > poseurs,
> > > > > conspiratorialists, perverts! , failures, losers, and scum.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > UFOmania is another example of this phenomenon: the declassed
> > > Americans
> > > > > and Europeans baffled and besieged by the world look for yet
> > > another
> > > > > conspiratorial escape hatch. Faced with too much science for them
> > > to
> > > > > understand, they flee into pseudoscience.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not a pretty picture. The widow McVeigh and Dildinski do more
to
> > > > > establish fascism in America with every cappuccino they drink
than
> > > an army
> > > > > of a million Byelorussian exiles, bankrolled by General Motors,
> > > General
> > > > > Mills, and General Foods, and commanded by General MacArthur,
could
> > > ever
> > > > > have accomplished.
> > > > > >
> >
> > --
> > "What I cannot create. I do not understand." Richard Feynman
--
"What I cannot create. I do not understand." Richard Feynman
What is the true legacy of the Esalen inspired Human Potential Movement?
1. Gary Zukav on Oprah
2. Ira Einhorn in prison for murder.(see William Irwin Thompson "The Edge of
History" for Ira at Esalen)
3. ex-EsalenPhysics of Consciousness Fuhrer, Nick Herbert, preaching the
philosophy of people like Nazi apologist historian, David Irving and other
anti-Israel propagandists.
4. The rapid rise and fall of the pampered Mormon Prince, Joe Firmage, choked by
toxic cosmologies and his belief in his own infallibility.
5. John Lindh, the pampered New Age Marin High School teen seduced by al Qaeda
to make war on his own country.
6. Mata Hari Rosinberg and Danny Sheeit invoking benevolent ETs and Nazi War
Worker,Werner Von Braun, as the moral force for "Peace in Space" whose real
effect would be to leave the Free World naked and defenceless. Note that the
GPS system is very vulnerable right now.
Hankskids@... wrote:
> In a message dated 1/8/02 6:49:06 PM, sarfatti@... writes:
>
> << Mr. Schwartz will like the
>
> > > > "Assyrians coming down like a wolf on the fold" arrive to rout the
>
> > > > intellectually hapless. >>
>
> I will take that Challenge. Steve's approach is traditional and refreshing at
> the same time. Since I am fortunate enough to know one of his literary
> secrets I can track him like a goose tracks rain. We will be seeing him more
> on TV now and less on the streets...I see a political role soon, somewhat
> like a home grown Kissinger type of dude, I guess the Bohemian Club has done
> its work...that said, please note that Steve never talks out of his areas of
> expertise, unlike myself. But then the TTT (Trieste Think Tank) makes room
> for all kinds. Love Hank
The Caffe Trieste is The Cuckoo's Nest. It is am Elite Lunatic Asylum in Bohemia
that we have all, like John Nash "A Beautiful Mind", checked ourselves into. ;-)
I spend very little time there these days as I am too busy in the "real world".
I understand Steve's feelings about North Beach as a fantasy land. It is not the
"real world". Steve is increasingly in the "real world" especially since
September 11, and so am I. Caffe Trieste conspiratorial fantasies are in the
same category as Joe Mirage's wannabe Punditry and Nick Herbert's Santa Cruz
Poetry Readings as "Dr. Jabir", and Gary Suckoff as Phantom of the Oprah- more
New Age Cargo Cult Ersatz Bogus Spiritualismo spewing out toxic cosmologies as
bad as Monsanto's toxic chemicals. Time to wake up. One's real productive
accomplishment varies inversely with the time spend bullshitting the same old
same old with the same people in the Caffe. The good times in North Beach were
in the mid-70's to early-80's - now it's mainly a place for
has beens and wannabees who have not yet checked themselves out on their own
recognance. ;-)
"The times they are a changin." Adapt or be irrelevant.
>
>
> PS I will be in a party mood in town with Limousine won in a poker game on
> 11th of January for Macintosh final. Ask Al Cohen
>
> Hank Harrison
--
"What I cannot create. I do not understand." Richard Feynman
some typo corrections
Jack Sarfatti wrote:
> What is the true legacy of the Esalen inspired Human Potential Movement?
>
> 1. Gary Zukav on Oprah
>
> 2. Ira Einhorn in prison for murder.(see William Irwin Thompson "The Edge of
History" for Ira at Esalen)
>
> 3. ex-Esalen Physics of Consciousness Fuhrer, Nick Herbert, preaching the
philosophy of people like Nazi apologist historian, David Irving and other
anti-Israel propagandists.
>
> 4. The rapid rise and fall of the pampered Mormon Prince, Joe Firmage, choked
by toxic cosmologies and his belief in his own infallibility.
>
> 5. John Lindh, the pampered New Age Marin High School teen seduced by al Qaeda
to make war on his own country.
>
> 6. Mata Hari Rosinberg and Danny Sheeit invoking benevolent ETs and Nazi War
Worker,Werner Von Braun, as the moral force for "Peace in Space" whose real
effect would be to leave the Free World naked and defenseless. Note that the GPS
system is very vulnerable right now.
>
> Hankskids@... wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 1/8/02 6:49:06 PM, sarfatti@... writes:
> >
> > << Mr. Schwartz will like the
> >
> > > > > "Assyrians coming down like a wolf on the fold" arrive to rout the
> >
> > > > > intellectually hapless. >>
> >
> > I will take that Challenge. Steve's approach is traditional and refreshing
at
> > the same time. Since I am fortunate enough to know one of his literary
> > secrets I can track him like a goose tracks rain. We will be seeing him more
> > on TV now and less on the streets...I see a political role soon, somewhat
> > like a home grown Kissinger type of dude, I guess the Bohemian Club has done
> > its work...that said, please note that Steve never talks out of his areas of
> > expertise, unlike myself. But then the TTT (Trieste Think Tank) makes room
> > for all kinds. Love Hank
>
> The Caffe Trieste is The Cuckoo's Nest. It is an Elite Lunatic Asylum in
Bohemia that we have all, like John Nash "A Beautiful Mind", checked ourselves
into. ;-) I spend very little time there these days as I am too busy in the
"real world". I understand Steve's feelings about North Beach as a fantasy land.
It is not the "real world". Steve is increasingly in the "real world" especially
since September 11, and so am I. Caffe Trieste conspiratorial fantasies are in
the same category as Joe Mirage's wannabe Punditry and Nick Herbert's Santa Cruz
Poetry Readings as "Dr. Jabir", and Gary Suckoff as Phantom of the Oprah- more
New Age Cargo Cult Ersatz Bogus Spiritualismo spewing out toxic cosmologies as
bad as Monsanto's toxic chemicals. Time to wake up. One's real productive
accomplishment varies inversely with the time spent bullshitting the same old
same old with the same people in the Caffe. The good times in North Beach were
in the mid-70's to early-80's - now it's mainly a place for
> has beens and wannabees who have not yet checked themselves out on their own
recognizance. ;-)
>
> "The times they are a changin." Adapt or be irrelevant.
>
> >
> >
> > PS I will be in a party mood in town with Limousine won in a poker game on
> > 11th of January for Macintosh final. Ask Al Cohen
> >
> > Hank Harrison
>
> ---
"What I cannot create. I do not understand." Richard Feynman
bcc list
I agree with Steve 100% - his vivid images and ideas makes sense to me both as
political theater and as a sober warning of things to come. But what do I know?
I am just a blue collar post-quantum mechanic in the star gate warp engine room
trying to crank the damn thing up to tunnel to the universes next door.
Stephen Schwartz wrote:
> Yo, dumbasses.
>
> First, eugenics was originally a socialist movement.
>
> Second, there ain't no protofascism. That's the bullshit I was talking about.
There's capitalism in power, which is unpleasant for marginal types without
professions, but they get to sit around in coffeehouses pretending they have
brains and are somebody, and vote in elections and serve on juries, and write
their confused crap and spew conspiratorial nonsense and rail against the
system. And there's fascism in power, where the marginal types (like the widow
McVeigh and Dildinski) put on uniforms and torture to death the working
journalists and physics professors and union officials and members of targeted
minorities, with no elections and no open trials and no freedom to write or
publish. Like I say, you can bullshit from now till doomsday and you still
can't make the one into the other.
>
> My attempt to educate you did not intend to suggest that the difference
between capitalism and fascism has mainly to do with the nature of fascist
movements. That you would think so shows how slow your brain works. Fascism in
power is exactly the point. If you can't see the difference you've had too many
espressi.
>
> "Coordinated manipulation of mass opinion by the controlled broadcast media
and controlled national press, all in the hands of a tiny plutocratic and
military-industrial-intel elite, is incompatible with open debate and true
liberal democracy."
> Strangely enough, this has been the character of capitalist society since the
middle of the 19th century, if one leaves out the broadcast angle, which has an
effect but not a determining one. This was the situation against which the
Roosevelt-era Progressives fought their fight. And was there no improvement?
American labor laws and the SEC meant nothing? The New Deal never happened?
You are the one who ignores history, butthead.
>
> So capitalism was always fascist? That means there is no difference and it
doesn't matter whether we let real fascists take over or not, which of course is
exactly what the widow McVeighs and the Dildinskis want, since they'll get to
march out of the coffeehouses and persecute those who actually do productive
things.
>
> "IMO such control fulfills many of the same functions as a charismatic leader
in the classic fascist states. It's all about manufacturing uninformed consent."
>
> IMO -- in your opinion? But your opinion counts for nothing. You are a
nobody sitting in a coffeehouse waiting for someone to buy him an espresso. Why
should your opinion mean anything? You've demonstrated by your vomiting into
the e-mail system that your grasp of history, economics, and sociology is nil.
>
> As to the content of the nonsense above, it represents a non sequitur. It
means about as much as saying my toenail is the Milky Way.
>
> "it won't take much to make the FBI the essentially same as
> the Gestapo."
>
> Dildinski, I have to get personal here since you are so fucking dumb.
>
> The Gestapo rounded up and executed my relatives in Ukraine during the
Holocaust, for the mere "crime" of being Jews. This happens to be one of the
reasons I am the argumentative and irritable person I am.
>
> The FBI harassed my parents and me for our association with the Communist
party.
>
> If you cannot see the difference between my relatives being lined up,
machine-gunned, and thrown in a ditch, and my parents and myself being
interviewed by pleasant bureau agents, occasionally molested in our jobs, etc.,
then you are truly pathetic. Let me tell you something: since you have no guts
or balls, you will never be in such a situation. You are free to sit in the
coffeehouses fantasizing about difficulties you will never have to contend with.
I have not had that freedom. I put myself on the line for my beliefs when I was
a communist, al union activist, a support of the Balkan Muslims and Albanians,
and I am putting it on the line now. You have put nothing on the line. You
don't even pay for your own espresso. That is why I know the difference between
ordinary capitalism and fascism and you don't.
>
> "This placed some limits on corporate monopoly
> power."
>
> I'm surprised you noticed. Being so logical and all, you should also have
noticed that this doesn't exactly spell fascism. So when were the limits on
corporate monopoly power removed? If you can't understand that fascism is a
regime of corporate monopoly power without limits, you are even dumber than I
thought.
>
> "I'm worried that they are going to get
> worse -- much
> worse.":
>
> Gee, Paul Dildinski, jobless and brainless in the coffeehouses of San
Francisco's pseudointellectual version of the Tenderloin, is worried. So
fucking what?
>
> "And remember the Reichstag fire?"
>
> This from the moron who recommends that I, who have published six major books
on the history of the left, should go to a library to study history. Hey
stupid, it's been established for a long, long time that the setting of the
Reichstag fire was done by a lone leftist extremist. The Nazis took advantage
of it but they did not actually do it. That's the kind of thing actual, real
historians know, as opposed to unemployables pushing the dust around coffeehouse
floors looking for money someone dropped.
>
> Then we see the true Dildinski touch:
>
> I'm "syphilitic"? No, the word is "published." I am published and read.
You are unknown and ignored and always will be.
>
> Normal Doggydoo's question-mark armband?
>
> Gee, I plead guilty to having curiosity and the nerve to change my opinions.
I know when you don't know anything except urban legends it's hard to understand
how actual intellectuals form and change their analyses of things, especially
things you are too stupid to know about.
>
> Stephen Schwartz
> --
"What I cannot create. I do not understand." Richard Feynman
Hankskids@... wrote:
> In a message dated 1/9/02 10:51:12 PM, sarfatti@... writes:
>
> << what is meant by "corporate fascism" -- which Steve and Mosca studiously
> ignore. >>
>
> Freedom is the right to choose loneliness, the right to act alone, the right
> to experiment hermetically and work ones way through to an educated
> opinion... without reprisals! Steve's game is to redefine a concept (any
> concept) revisionist that he is, and then set up a soapbox on that topic,
> great New York publishing trick. Call it free speech, but only when it is
> predictable, Vanilla and Controlled. Tell the truth and die in print, Publish
> AND perish ...
>
> Steve wake up, you have a bully pulpit, but there is more actual free speech
> in Dublin.
>
> Steve is not really empirical or even phenomenological. He is analytical.
> Steve does not test hypothesis he observes (sometimes accurately) and then
> reports.
> Steve, who is now rising as one of our best writers, dangerously
> redefines Fascism as a "Pop," movement, thus apologizing for it ...
> dismissing it. Neitzche counter Wagner comes to mind.
>
> Schwartz' new definition of fascism runs very close to the fascism of
> Nietzche's sister... not the real deal Fred, but a real "cool" Mel Brooks
> kind of Fascism. This comes fast on the heels of the reanimated success of
> "The Producers." Fascism is now a copated "funny thing." Steve sees an almost
> acceptable, "Springtime for Hitler" in Osama and the Mullahs and it creeps in
> his analysis of the Serbians.
I don't see that at all in what Steve writes unless you mean his allusions to
"widow Mc Veigh" and "Dildinski"? But I see no humor in his piece on Serbian
atrocities.
>
>
> This, may I define a word, "Coolprop" (as opposed to "agitprop") is
> unacceptable to me. Here I am, sixty-two, unpublished, a wreck of a man, and
> yet I still know propaganda when I see it. You can sugar coat camel dung, you
> can call it hashish until you take a toke, then suddenly it reverts to its
> true source, it came from the bowles of Dromedaries.
>
> Why do I react this way? My dad and uncle were old fashioned "Jew hating"
> fascists, my stepfather was a fucking Nazi who thought Curtis LeMay was god.
> My dad met Hitler in Berlin in 1936 when he was presented with his silver
> medal in Gymnastics. Steve's' mom and dad were, I have it on good authority,
> old pals of Harry Bridges and Vinnie Halinan. Correct me if I am wrong, but
> both Nazis and Marxists use the same moral platform to make judgements...
> they are puritanical. They are the witch hangers, Like the Catholics and the
> Presbyterians they are in constant competion to see who can kill the most
> witches. Freedom is uinnecessary if everybody agrees right? Wrong. Fascism,
> in any form, is tediusly stupid. It breeds Scientologists and Est holes by the
> basket.
I second that last statement. The Esalen-est New Age is essentially an American
Fascist I'm an Ass Hole, You're an Ass Hole, and it's OK Movement. Scientology
was there at the beginning. Werner Erhard stole a lot from it. It's no accident
that Nick Herbert supports the ideas of David Irving.
>
>
> Please note nobody is talking about the real fascism, the neon sign flashing
> in our face. Nazi, Nazi, Nazi... the old form is now back in spades. Nobody
> is saying anything about the old Rand Scenario – except a growing phalanx of
> alienated right wing gun fighters and Alinsky Radicals forming in the center
> left.
>
> The liberals are, of course going along with the loss of civil rights because
> they never used them in the first place. This abides the theory that you will
> never miss your prick if you've never had sex.
>
> The fascism which Steve is redefining is in my opinion, unhip, bubble gum
> pop. He makes it sound like we are all in an after school club. He is right
> in that it does exist, one need only look at how hip heroin has become, to
> see whose pushing the dope. But when the kiddy cadets wind up with enough
> power to suspend the Bill of Rights I blow the whistle. Trouble is there's
> nobody left to hear the damned whistle. Dinosaurs like me are pure
> solipsists. Nobody left in the woods to hear the tree fall so any
> explanation, sound vas no sound, is acceptable.
>
> Here is my redefinition of Fascism... Fascism is the agreement amongst
> constituents of a given group to deny certain "Unalienable rights," to those
> who have the audacity to think they should have them.
>
> Steve's writing is brilliant, ornate, and stylistically believable, but Truth
> is tautological no matter how it is painted. It breaks the surface, adding a
> third and even fourth textural dimension. Steve's work does not offer this.
> One cannot learn to write like Francis Yates by simply reading her books. One
> can only claim to be a Yatesian if he or she includes the Dames fundamental
> rule, one she only told her students in private sessions. "Only write about
> truth, opinion, no matter how it is disguised, is forever dross."
>
> Hank Harrison
> Warburg Institute Fellow 1977-79-80
--
"What I cannot create. I do not understand." Richard Feynman
This is a wonderfully sane message on an emotional subject from Dr. Mosca.
Bravo. Two thumbs up! :-)
mosca wrote:
> Jack, below are some comments I meant to send to you/the list but
> absentmindedly obviously sent to Paul alone. While I am sure he will share
> it, I thought to send it to you as well. Thanks as always and just note how
> fascinating the science work is beyond this hopeless enterprise of
> convincing anybody of anything really :-). Frank
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mosca" <mosca@...>
> To: "Paul Zielinski" <pzielins@...>
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:24 AM
> Subject: Re: Fascism Today: A Review of Schwartz's Seminal Lecture
>
> > Just a few comments on what Paul Zielinski has said pertaining to my
> > remarks.
> > First, as Jack noted, I was strictly referring to Steve Schwartz's
> > general remarks about fascism, not to any earlier issues which may have
> > prompted them. I tune into this dialogue from time to time and was
> focusing
> > exclusively on what I considered a rational, well defined review of what >
> fascism really is about, both historically and structurally and how that
> > differed in fact from again both the historical and structural evolution
> of
> > our own society.
> > My ebullience over what I considered the succinctness of those remarks
> > obviously comes from my agreeing with Mr. Schwartz'a comments. I can
> > certainly understand that there are other points of view and indeed
> scholars
> > who take a very different stance on the evolution of these events and what
> > they might mean for the United States and its domestic and foreign
> policies.
> > What I was indirectly addressing, and what may to some extent have
> been
> > unclear because I did not address this thread in its immediate context,
> was
> > that what so often gets lost in these free for all intellectual brawls is
> > precisely the distinctions that are the underpinnings of any attempt to
> make
> > a coherent argument. Calling people fascists on the flimsiest pretexts is
> > akin to Seinfeld calling the soup vendor the "soup Nazi." Funny, yes, but
> > such lack of proper distinctions leads precisely to the condition I
> > understand Mr. Zielinski is decrying, i.e., a sort of watering down of the
> > actual truth of what it means to have a police state running things and
> the
> > horrific consequences for individual liberty and the rule of law when that
> > comes to pass.
> > Now as to the specifics of the issue of what is called "corporate
> > fascism" I can only reply what do you mean? If you mean that there are
> > always people in a society who would support a totalistic solution to the
> > difficult process of evolving liberty, that there are people who dread
> their
> > freedom and would be happy to run into the shadows of Grand Inquisitorial
> > strategies for "fixing what's wrong with society," well, yes of course.
> That
> > a proportion of these folks are found among the rich, the privileged, the
> > power brokers whether in industry or politics, well, yes. So what's the
> > point? Corporations and other institutions have cooperated and will
> > cooperate with totalistic regimes to preserve their prerogatives. How does
> > that amount to a thing called Corporate Fascism? Schwartz dealt with that
> in
> > the piece on fascism very clearly.
> > Again, we can call anything, anything we wish. I can call my landlord
> a
> > fascist because she wants to collect the rent and I don't like that. But
> if
> > we lose all boundaries and distinctions then we have lost the first
> > requirement for any kind of useful discourse, i.e., a common enough frame
> of
> > reference to communicate with any hope of at least being understood.
> > Schwartz, however impolitic his language might seem to those on the
> > receiving end of his barbs, had the respect for the dialogue sufficient to
> > take the time to make those distinctions. Mr. Zielinski agreed with those
> > distinctions, however he felt they missed the mark relative to the context
> > in which he was discussing fascism. Okay, his following remarks about the
> > internal politics of the Nazi party may have some relevance, but they have
> > relevance, I would submit, only to the extent that those distinctions made
> > by Schwartz established enough of a common frame of reference to begin a
> > more specific examination of the facts.
> > Finally, and I know this is speaking to the wind as it were, the
> actual
> > truth is as of this moment, again however imperfectly realized, we are not
> a
> > fascist state. Whatever elements with their secret agendas and totalistic
> > schemes may be plotting or hoping for, the constitution, individual
> liberty
> > and the rule of law still stand and again, however imperfectly, voices are
> > raised in protest against perceived injustices. How else would we have
> > arrived at this point with our advances in personal liberty and racial
> > justice? I know, I know the voices will immediately kick in protesting
> that
> > all this is a mirage etc. Well, so be it. The price of liberty is eternal
> > vigilance. I believe Schwartz's distinctions advance the cause of that
> > vigilance; other voices can do the same with a different tenor and an
> > altered perspective on how best to maintain that vigilance. I am assuming
> > that this is what these discussions are about and not merely that we are
> > informing one another of conspiratorial fait accompli's that make such
> > vigilance superfluous. I do not believe that, Jack does not, nor does
> Steve
> > Schwartz. I hope others will share at least that level of optimism while
> > maintaining their postures of legitimate dissent. Respectfully, Frank
> Mosca.
>
--
"What I cannot create. I do not understand." Richard Feynman
Done via bcc
Stephen Schwartz wrote:
> Please distribute this to the morons who are engaged with Dildinski on the
matter of so called corporate fascism.
>
> A few postings ago one of the doofus posts included a slur against James
Burnham, comrade of Leon Trotsky, Bill Buckley, and Lawry Chickering, and mentor
to myself.
>
> If these illiterates knew anything, they would know that the most intelligent
criticism in English of the overgrowth of the state in the 20th century was a
book by Burnham called THE MANAGERIAL REVOLUTION. This book came out in 1941
and very brilliantly described the similarities between fascism, Stalinism, and
the New Deal, not as repressive systems, but as varying forms of a single social
development: the rise of the management and administrative class to power. It
was a bestseller in its time but has been relegated to the void because Burnham
became a "right-winger."
>
> If you want to understand the necessary critique of the state power in our
time, you have to begin with Burnham. Jack, here is something that should
really interest you: Burnham wrote a book called THE MACHIAVELLIANS in which he
analyzes the great philosophers of state power, Machiavelli, Vilfredo Pareto,
Gaetano Mosca, Robert Michels, and Georges Sorel. A reviewer on Amazon.com
describes them as "five of the most scientifically rigorous of all political
thinkers." The book is hard to find but you could try alibris.com, which has
out of print books.
>
> Another irony of this is that the ranting against the corporate state indulged
in by the doofuses is much closer to the anti-big-government views of
conservative Republicans than to any traditional leftist.
>
> IMO -- and my opinion, unlike that of Dildinski & Co., is based on 35 years of
serious analysis, writing, and publication -- the three most significant
political philosophers of modern times are Marx, Kropotkin, and Ribert Michels.
>
> Marx grasped that under certain conditions the working class could take power
away from the bourgeoisie. It didn't happen the way he expected, but the
insight as to the potential was important.
>
> Kropotkin explained why it didn't happen the way Marx predicted: because the
radical left parties would seek power for themselves, not for their
working-class constituents.
>
> Michels analyzed this power-seeking as part of an inherent social tendency
toward oligarchy.
>
> People interested in why our society functions in the way it does, especially
the apparently constant increase of state control (I say only "apparently"
because I don't think it's immutable) should be reading these works, not the
scribblings of coffeehouse panhandlers.
>
> Stephen Schwartz
>
--
"What I cannot create. I do not understand." Richard Feynman
This virus came from Danny Sheehan's and Carol Rosinberg's UFO Disclosure
Project branch of Fifth Column Propaganda Web in their latest list mailing a
few days ago. Also the SnowWhite and the Seven Dwarves virus from Lord Ha Ha is
being sent around.
If you are Mac or Linux no problem.
If your antivirus software is up to date it is not serious PROVIDED that you
have checked preference box to delete infected email.
If not you are screwed. My Norton anti-virus is up to date and is set to catch
email virus. I will check later to see if it's in my system. Never open
attachements you are not expecting.
Steven Kaeser wrote:
> I'm not sure how I got into this discussion (although I have also
> received about a dozen copies of the infected email message), but as
> long as I'm here:
>
> This virus (more accurately a "semi-polymorphic worm") is a rather old
> one. It was detected in the 4th quarter of 2000, and virus detection
> software was modified to detect it. If we have systems pumping out
> these email messages, then someone isn't keeping their virus protection
> software up to date.
>
> For a description of this threat, you could go to
>
> http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_HYBR
> IS.A
>
> Being old doesn't mean that it's harmless, and it makes modifications to
> the networking components of an infected system, so this shouldn't be
> taken lightly. It contains its own SMTP engine to generte and package
> email messages and monitors email addresses as they pass through the
> networking layer, rather than rely on the existing email system (i.e.
> the INBOX, SENT ITEMS, ADDRESS BOOK, etc).
>
> It was also noted by some that their Linux and MACs weren't impacted,
> but there are threats that they should prepare for as well. But because
> of the popularity of the WinTel platform, it appears to be the most
> popular target for those who create these threats.
>
> Just a few thoughts.
>
> Steve Kaeser
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-DPUpdates@...
> > [mailto:owner-DPUpdates@...] On Behalf Of
> > Jack Sarfatti
> > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 2:13 AM
> > To: Mardon Soiruk
> > Cc: antonio@...;
> > DPUpdates@...; Reed Murray (E-mail); Paul
> > Crawford (E-mail); Jeff Altman (E-mail); artbell@...
> > Subject: Re: Warnig - VIRUS!!!!
> >
> >
> > Thaty's because they are al Qaeda patsies!
> >
> > Mardon Soiruk wrote:
> >
> > > You never reply to a virus by sending an attatchment in
> > reply. But I
> > > got it twice from the same source;
> > > owner-DPUpdates@...
> > >
> > > Be Well,
> > > Mardon
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Antonio @ DP <antonio@...>
> > > To: <DPUpdates@...>; Reed Murray (E-mail)
> > > <pr@...>; Paul Crawford (E-mail)
> > > <pcrawford@...>; Jeff Altman (E-mail)
> > > <Jeff@...>
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 12:25 AM
> > > Subject: Warnig - VIRUS!!!!
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Antonio C. Pinto
> > > > Disclosure Project
> > > > antonio@...
> > > > www.disclosureproject.org
> > > >
> > > > "Condemnation without Investigation is the Height of Ignorance!"
> > > > Albert Einstein
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > "What I cannot create. I do not understand." Richard Feynman
> >
> >
> >
--
"What I cannot create. I do not understand." Richard Feynman
IF Greer has his way all current energy systems will
be replaced.
HAHAHAHAHA
in case you didn't see this:
These marching morons are also sending around e-mail viruses.
....................
Disclosure Project Email Update
1-11-2002
---------------------------------
Dear Supporters of the Disclosure Project,
The past year has been an extraordinary time for The Disclosure Project
and the world.
We had the most successful and best attended press conference in 20
years on May 9, 2001 at the National Press Club. The truth about UFOs,
illegal covert projects and the promise of a new civilization made
possible by the release of new energy and propulsion systems
hogwash
was heard
by over a billion people in the past 7 months. Thousands of people
have
attended Campaign for Disclosure
events and a grass roots movement is growing to push for Disclosure.
lies, all lies from Danny Sheehan and his motley crew
Thousands of letters were sent to dozens of members of Congress - and
some have begun to take the matter seriously and are even asking for
affidavits from select witnesses.
Of course, the tragedy of 9/11 has dominated the media and Congress.
But
at the same time it has underscored the folly of an unnecessary
dependence on imported oil as the main source of energy for America
and
the world. Increasingly, people are beginning to understand the true
high price of oil.
We are in the process of implementing a grass roots extension of the
Campaign for Disclosure
AKA "fifth column"
by creating the official Disclosure Project Representatives program.
Under this program, people will be able to sponsor and conduct
Disclosure Project town
hall meetings in their local area, showing either the May 9, 2001
National Press Club video or the Disclosure Video. Through this effort,
an unlimited number of people can be empowered to spread the truth
and
organize locally for full Disclosure. Please check the web site for
updates on this which should be posted shortly.
In other website news we have a new guestbook up on the web site, which
we would encourage
all of you to sign, if you haven't done so already, and get your friends
to sign.
Some of our recent efforts have been focused on an outgrowth of Dr.
Greer's 11 years of intense research into this subject. We have
identified a number of prospective civilian scientists and inventors
who
appear to have uncovered important new electromagnetic energy and
propulsion technologies. We have concluded that the time has come to
form an
entity to definitively identify, test, disclose and mass- produce such
a
device to replace the internal combustion engine and the need for fossil
fuels. I have no doubt that we now possess the strategic capability
to
do this once a bona fide technology is identified and tested by
independent facilities.
To this end, Dr. Greer has formed a corporation: Space Energy Access
Systems, Inc.,
or SEAS. This entity will identify, test, secure, disclose, finance
and
produce systems to replace
all current energy sources currently in use. It will have a significant
associated Foundation to fund and support Disclosure, world peace,
outer
space relations, environmental protection and the alleviation of human
poverty and suffering.
I would like to thank you for everything you have done to support The
Disclosure Project in the past year. It would have been impossible
to
accomplish the historic events of the past year or two without your
dedication, support and love.
Now it is on to 2002: The year the technologies behind UFO energy and
propulsion systems will begin to be released to a long-suffering world.
God bless you and thank you for everything!
Sincerely,
The Disclosure Project
UFO Disclosure Project is a disinformation and misinformation project
making fraudulent claims about secret US Black technologies that do not
yet exist. The project needs to be investigated by the Feds.
--
"What I cannot create. I do not understand." Richard Feynman
forwarded without comment as one writer's view on background related to Ira
Einhorn story.
From: <CloudRider@...>
To: <sarfatti@...>
Cc: <snipped>
Subject: Stargate, "The Nine," $, Einhorn, Sarfatti, Jones, Esalen; CIA etc.
2/2/02
Date: Saturday, February 02, 2002 8:43 AM
(If duplicate, disregard. This is to Sarfatti's "slander" list. Take a
'moment.' ;-)
"By their fruits..."
http://www.themastersgroup.org/schedule.html (Truth is what is believed?)
See where they ran? Good people having little idea "which gods they serve?"
"Nine" to Earth! (References to Sarfatti, Jones, Hoagland, et al., in this
narrative.)
Cross-references bibliography, for other researchers:
"The Stargate Conspiracy: Revealing the Truth Behind Extraterrestrial
Contact, Military Intelligence and the Mysteries of Ancient Egypt," by Lynn
Picknett and Clive Prince. Little, Brown & Co., London. 1999. Published in
the US by Berkley Books, paperback, released 4 September 2001, with a
slightly (but strategically) redacted title, and lost in the rubble of
September 11th. Make of that what you will. Order it:
"The Stargate Conspiracy: the Truth About Extraterrestrial Life and the
Mysteries of Ancient Egypt." (Omitting "Military Intelligence" ;-) ISBN
0-425-17658-4. $15.00.
(Paperback version has no index, but pages match hardback version, which
does.)
Other references (their own outlets), "Council of Nine" re stimuli &
programming:
"Uri," by Andrija Puharich. 1974. Available in libraries.
"The Mythic Imagination," by Stephen Larsen, Ph.D. Bantam New Age Books, New
York. 1990. Paperback. ISBN 0-553-34877-9. Web search him via a search
engine
"Overture.com," to find his Center for Symbolic Living @ <www.mythmind.org>
and his Stone Mountain Counseling Center @ <www.mythmind.com>. NOTE: That is
Larsen, with an "e." Primary source for "Nine" cult programming as developed
with funding from Laurance Rockefeller, et al., at a "wholesale ET
transformation" level.
"Cyberbiological Studies of the Imaginal Component in the UFO Contact
Experience," Dennis Stillings, editor. Archaeus, vol. 5, 1989. Archaeus
Project. The editor describes: "Is the UFO phenomenon 'real' or 'unreal,' or
somewhere in between? Are aliens 'good' or 'evil'? When a subject breaks
into
opposed points of view, it indicates that something archetypal has been
touched upon. (DF note: Or is being STIMULATED!) Such a strong evocation
"clouds men's minds," and should signal to the investigator that all may not
be as it seems, and that none of it is as it is told." (Essayists included:
Hilary Evans; Carl Raschke; Dennis Stillings; Martin S. Kottmeyer; Peter M.
Rojcewica; Michael Grosso; Tony Nugent; Alvin H. Lawson; Michael A.
Persinger.) Editorial Board: George P. Hansen; Jack Houck; Roger S.
Jones,Ph.D.; Karen P. Olness, MD, FAAP; Otto H. Schmitt, Ph.D.; Berthold
Schwarz, MD; Walter H. Uphoff, Ph.M; Reah H. White (producer of PsiLine
database and founder of Parapsychology Sources of Information, PSI). See her
in next ref.*
"Proceedings: Symposium on Applications of Anomalous Phenomena," C. B. Scott
Jones, editor. Papers from a symposium held Nov. 30 - Dec. 1, 1983,
Leesburg,
VA. Published by Kaman Tempo (division of Kaman Sciences Corp, Alexandria,
VA
& Santa Barbara, CA). Presenters: Jones; Jahn, Dunne & Nelson of Princeton;
H. E. Puthoff; Ed May; Robert L. Morris; Z. V. Harvalik; S. A. Schwartz;
Willis Harmon; K. Osis; W. G. Roll & E. A. Montagno; E. F. Kelly; Russell
Targ & Keith Harary.
Maybe a "cure" for the mind-virus/soul parasites these guys have let loose?
"UFOs and Mental Health," by Bob Teets. Headline Books, Inc., Terra Alta,
WV.
1997. Includes original "Matrix of UFO Beliefs" prepared for Clinton UFO
initiative.
"CE-VI: Close Encounters of the Possession Kind (a different kind of
interference by Otherworldly beings)," by William Baldwin, Ph.D. 1999.
Center
for Human Relations, published by Headline Books, Inc. BOTH AVAILABLE. See
first chapters and other information at:
<http://www.headlinebooks.com/metaphys.shtml>
NINE CULT, etc.:
See "The Stargate Conspiracy," US edition, for context of Nine ET cult
penetration of New Science, meditation and a New Age reliance on
"channelled"
material and the dissociation of mediums to bring in "higher vibratory"
programming to Earth politics, including "est," UFO
abductions/contact/"hybrid" psychological stimuli (5th Column), and related
components of "Global Mind Scenario" developed at SRI International in the
1970s and underpinning most contemporary "transformational UFOlogy" now.
Examples, quoting from the US Edition of "The Stargate Conspiracy."
pp. 231-237: selected excerpts (in the author's discussion of imprisoned UFO
guru Ira Einhorn, convicted murderer and fugitive now in federal jail in
Pennsylvania as he waits for another trial; this is partly why Nine cultists
remain "hiding in plain sight.")
"Significantly, just three weeks before his arrest, Ira Einhorn gave a
lecture in Philadelphia in which, according to Steven Levy (author of "The
Unicorn's Secret," a 1989 book about Ira and his alleged murder of former
girlfriend, Holly Maddux):
' He said that for years he had been primarily interested in the relation of
nonphysical entities to the physical world. This led him to revelations, he
explained, that had startling consequences for our civilization.' (115)
"Levy also said of Einhorn's strange quest:
'As he delved deeper into the world of the paranormal, he became
increasingly
convinced that recent psychic revelations [presumably a reference to the
Nine's communications] could have significant global impact. In some
scenarios, these could have alarming consequences.' (116... references to
Picknett/Prince notes.)
"He (Levy) goes on to stress Einhorn's role in bringing about major changes
through acceptance of the unexplained:
'Through his relationship with Andrija Puharich and others, (i.e., Bearden,
Sarfatti, et al.) in what he jokingly called a "psychic mafia," the Unicorn
(Einhorn's name for himself, punning on his name) assumed a key role in the
task of alerting our people about the implications of the revolution ... in
Einhorn's universe, those factors included the undeniability of UFOs, the
startling discoveries in quantum physics, and the inevitability of the new
world order -- shaken loose by the Aquarian Transformation.' (117)
(Picknett & Prince, again): "Such apocalyptic beliefs were shared by others
on the Puharich-Einhorn scene. Lieutenant Colonel Thomas Bearden, Einhorn's
close friend and former "war games" analyst at the Pentagon, appeared --
along with Puharich -- at a conference organised by Einhorn on "Mind Over
Matter" at Penn State University in 1977. (Bearden wrote the obituary for
Puharich in the Newsletter of PACE, the Planetary Association for Clean
Energy, in 1995.) Since retiring from the Army, Bearden has dedicated
himself
to researching alternative energy sources. He has written:
(Bearden): 'I believe that the accelerated time schedule for the 'New World
Order' -- now set for the year 2000 -- is as the result of the imminent
advent of (1) superluminal [faster-than-light] communication ... and (2)
overunity electrical energy systems. (118)
(Picknett & Prince): "Bearden was on the board of the Astron Corporation, a
communications research and development contracted to the Defense Department
and NASA. (119) The vice president (and president at the time of Bearden's
involvement) is Dr. Joseph Jahoda, who has been involved in the ARE/Schor
Foundation excavations at Giza (Great Pyramid, Egypt) since 1978.
(Farley note: This is a point-of-linkage with Dr. C. B. Scott Jones, et al.,
via the ARE, the Association for Research and Enlightenment, in Virginia
Beach, VA. ARE was the organization established by psychic freemason Edgar
Cayce, also known as "The Sleeping Prophet," who channelled primarily
purported "Egyptian" knowledge from the 1920s until his death in 1945. The
ARE has been "taken over" by 9-Cult.)
(Stargate/Picknett & Prince, pp. 232-233): "Einhorn's strange career puts
the
events surrounding the Nine in the 1970s into a much wider context,
unfolding
against the emergence of radical new developments in the fields of
psychology, parapsychology and quantum physics. A new generation of
scientists was beginning to explore subjects previously considered as
smacking too much of the lunatic fringe even to be worthy of consideration.
At the heart of this new wave was an impulse to understand more about the
nature -- and limits -- of human consciousness and its relationship to the
physical universe. This work encompassed research into such areas as the
subconscious mind and altered states of consciousness, including the effects
of hallucinogenic drugs such as LSD, exploring new discoveries in the weird
realms of quantum physics, potential new sources of energy, and
parapsychology. From this family of brave new ideas came such classic and
influential studies as Fritjof Capra's "The Tao of Physics," which explored
the relationship between quantum physics and Eastern mysticism; David Bohm's
"Wholeness and the Implicate Order;" Joseph Campbell's "The Masks of God,"
on
the psychology of myth; Stanislav Grof's "Realms of the Human Unconscious,"
on LSD research; and many others.
(Stargate) "Muchyy of this ground-breaking work took place in California
with
a loosely knit network of research institutes and foundations among which
was
a great sharing of ideas and much overlapping membership. Among these
establishments was, of course, SRI at Menlo Parkk, where Targ and Puthoff's
pioneering work into remote viewing was conducted, at the same time that SRI
(investigators) were also active at Giza.
"The Esalen Institute, at Big Sur, which had another establishment in San
Francisco, was a prime mover into this scene. Dubbed the California capital
of the self-realization movement (120), it was founded in 1964 by Michael
Murphy and Richard Price on land formerly inhabited by the Esselen Indians,
with the aim of holding seminars on psychology, religion, parapsychology,
quantum physics and related subjects. In the late 1960s and early 1970s it
regularly sparked controversy, not always for the intended reasons. Naked
students often claimed the lion's share of local headlines, rather than the
pioneering seminars of the great thinkers of the day. Also a centre for
research into psychedelic drugs, it became a focus for the counterculture of
the day. More surprisingly, it has been enormously influential beyond its
time and place.
(Stargate, p.234): "Ira Einhorn led seminars at Esalen, and it was there
that
the Nine, channelled by Jenny O'Connor, were listed as members of the staff.
According to Einhorn, 'she took over running Esalen through the Nine,' (121)
and such as the influence of the Nine that they ordered the sacking of its
chief financial officer and reorganized the entire management structure.
(122) IN the late 1970s the Esalen Soviet Exchange programme was developed,
initially to share parapsychology research, in which the rising Soviet stars
of academia and politics were invited to the United States. this was to have
enormous, far-reaching influence on world politics, as many of the Soviets
who went to Esalen in the 1980s were to become instrumental in the shakeups
that would end the Cold War and bring about the fall of communism. It is
reasonable to assume that an organisation whose members made regular trips
to
Moscow in the days of the Cold War must (italics in the text) have been made
use of by US intelligence, or at least have been monitored. Almost
incredibly, several Soviet officials who would later rise to high office in
the Gorbachev regime attended Jenny O'Connor's Nine seminars, together with
psi enthusiasts Congressman Charlie Rose and Ira Einhorn.
(Stargate, p. 234): "The Esalen Institute now runs the Gorbachev
Foundation/USA, created by the former Soviet President in 1992 to facilitate
a smooth transition from the Cold War days to a better future for all the
world. One of its objectives is to work with the development of emerging
political and religious paradigms. The Institute sponsored and funded (DF's
note: Rockefeller money and other similar grants) by Boris Yeltsin before he
became Russian President, and members of the Esalen Soviet Exchange
programme
were the go-betweens for Richard Hoagland and Soviet Mars researchers in the
mid-1980s.
"The story moves in one quantum leap from a tale of dubious channelling and
its disciples to another level. The Nine, through their channellers and
hangers-on, have a more or less direct line to some of the world's most
important men, whose decisions affect millions of lives. This is an
astonishing scenario.
"Another 'sister' school in this movement was, if anything, more
controversial than the Esalen Institute. This was est (Erhard Sensitivity
Training), the organization founded in 1971 by Werner Erhard, a former
Scientologist -- and used car salesman -- who decided to exploit and adopt
some of Scientology's concepts and techniques for his own self-improvement
system. The now notorious est held seminars that attracted such celebrities
as Buzz Aldrin (former astronaut), Yoko Ono, John Denver and the future UFO
abduction researcher, John Mack (DF note: Mack as also on the board of
est.),
but it wasn't long before est became a dirty word. Attendees were disturbed
by the fascistic regime and zombielike demeanour of members, as well as
Erhard's own dictatorial control of the organisation. Media disapproval was
intense, and soon est was relegated to the scrapheap of dangerous cults.
Erhard himself fled from the United States after press revelations about his
private life and financial affairs. He is now believed to be living
somewhere
in Russia. (DF note: Erhard's wife and daughter accused him of physical
abuse, etc., according to published reports.)
(Stargate, p. 235): "Tellingly, Erhard's real name was John Rosenberg, but
it is said that he changed his name 'to replace Jewish weakness with German
strength.' (123) (His father was Jewish, but had converted to Episcopal
Christianity.) Erhard had close links with the Esalen Institute and gave
funds to SRI's remote viewing project. (124) More disturbingly, Jenny
O'Connor (the Nine channeller at Esalen) had been introduced to est in 1977,
by Sir John Whitmore, before she moved on to Esalen. (DF note: Sir John
Whitmore, of the UK, was a primary "impresario" for the Nine, and more is
chronicled about this in the Nine's own manifesto: "The Only Planet of
Choice," (first edition) edited by Palden Jenkins, as channelled by Phyllis
Schlemmer, an Israeli mystic who has residences in Israel and Florida, with
links in Atlanta and Washington, of course. ;-)
"A further integral part of this movement was the Institute of Noetic
Sciences at Palo Alto, which was founded by Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar
Mitchell in March 1973, and is 'dedicated to research and education in the
processes of human consciousness to help achieve a new understanding and
expanded awareness among all people.(125) ('Noetics' comes from the Greek
for
'mind'.) They were heavily involved in the psi testing of the 1970s, partly
funding the (Uri) Geller experiments at SRI and, until the CIA came clean
about their involvement in t he remote-viewing experiment in the mid-1990s,
it was the Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS) that claimed to have funded
the initial programme. (126) At the very least, this shows that the
Institute
allowed itself to be used as a cover for the CIA, and perhaps even as a
conduit for the funding of the agency's more controversial experiments. (DF
note: the Board of IONS is revealing.)
(Stargate, p. 236): "Arthur M. Young's highly influential Institute for the
Study of Consciousness at Berkeley, founded in 1972, also provided a forum
for some of the most daring thinkers of the day. It was here that Richard
Hoagland had his meeting with Paul Shay of SRI, and also where he gave his
first lecture about Cydonia (the "Face on Mars," and proto-civilization
allegedly on Mars), in 1984. Later he was to acknowledge Arthur Young's
personal influence. (127) (Young, present at the Nine's debut at the Round
Table Foundation in 1953, was in fact more heavily involved in the running
of
the Foundation than he wanted to be known, as Puharich's 'second-in-command'
there. (128) Young also kept secret his presence at the meeting of Puharich,
Hurkos (Peter Hurkos, a psychic of some notoriety at the time) and the
Laughheads in Mexico in 1956, although shortly before his death in 1995, he
admitted to researcher Terry Milner that he had been present. (129)
"Institutes and foundations only succeeded because of the individuals who
breathed life into them. One of the key figures on this scene was
avant-garde
physicist Jack Sarfatti, the first director of the Physics/Consciousness
Research Group at the Esalen Institute, which was funded by Werner Erhard
and
money covertly channelled through from the Pentagon. (130) His seminars were
attended by Stanislav Grof, Russell Targ, Timothy Leary, physicist Saul-Paul
Sirag (who became director after Sarfatti), Robert Anton Wilson, Fritjof
Capra and Ira Einhorn, who was Sarfatti's literary agent.
"The work carried out by this interlinked network of organisations was
imaginative and innovative, presenting a serious challenge to the previous
arrogant certainties of the scientific world. It was undertaken in genuine
pioneering spirit, largely born of the idealism of the youth culture of the
1960s and a desire to change the world for the better. However, a dark
shadow
was cast over this early idyllic promise by the involvement of the Pentagon,
CIA and other security and intelligence agencies, who soon realised that the
breakthroughs of these idealists had great potential for their own spheres,
such as remote viewing. And they did not fail to note that research into
altered states of consciousness, including the use of LSD and other drugs,
also had darker applications in the various techniques of mind control. So
often this research was encouraged and funded -- although often covertly,
through other channels -- by organisations such as the CIA and the Pentagon.
One of the pioneers of LSD and consciousness research, John C. Lilly, worked
at the Esalen Institute for several years, as well as for the CIA (DF note:
and for the Navy, and the National Institute of Mental Health, for whom
Lilly's dolphin work with LSD was conducted in the 1950s.), but only on the
condition that his research remained unclassified. This made things
difficult
for him professionally, because nearly all other researchers in the field
were also working on classified projects, so he was unable to share data
with
them or vice-versa. (131)
(Stargate, p. 237): "Another case of behind-the-scenes agendas in this
milieu
involved Dr. Brendan O'Regan, research director of Edgar Mitchell's
Institute
of Noetic Sciences and a consultant for SRI, as well as research director
for
the scientist-philosopher R. Buckminster Fuller. O'Regan arranged the
experiments into the strange talents of Uri Geller at Birkbeck College,
London, in 1975 and was also closely involved with the Puharich - Whitmore
circle, surrounding the Nine. And, since O'Regan's death in 1992, Jack
Sarfatti has claimed that he was also working with the CIA at this time,
writing:
(Citing a Sarfatti posting on his web site, 1996): "I was then [1973] simply
a young inexperienced 'naive idiot' in a very very sophisticated and
successful covert psychological warfare operation run by the late Brendan
O'Regan of the Institute of Noetic Sciences and the late Harold Chipman who
was the CIA station chief responsible for all mind-control research in the
Bay Area in the 1970s. (132)
(Stargate, p. 237): "As with the Nine's communication -- which were
intimately connected with the extraordinary cutting-edge research taking
place primarily in California -- the shadow of the intelligence agencies
looms large."
The issue:
And "Stargate's" authors pose a question, on page 239: "Was it Puharich's
own
idea to try and contact the space gods, or did it come from his superiors in
the intelligence community? Senior CIA (and other) operatives may wall have
taken the possibility of extraterrestrial contact seriously enough to
explore
ways of opening a stargate. Certainly, intelligence agencies around the
world
were aware of the potential of psychic abilities and were in possession of
abundant data that suggested strongly that shamanic-style skills
successfully
invite contactee-type experiences."
(End quote, "The Stargate Conspiracy.")
CloudRider (Dick Farley) closing comment: By its nature and by design of
those on Earth who have been and still are involved in these murky areas of
"almost science," the applications of "Anomalous Phenomena" for political,
psychosexual and biowar non-lethal spacewarfare paranoia seeding
counterintelligence for global fascism, a battle for the minds (some say the
"souls") of humanity and our future on our home planet (if it really IS our
home planet ;-) is underway. Billy Graham, a friend of Mr. Rockefeller's,
who
has funded much of what is described in the foregoing narrative, is "in the
loop." Likewise some former presidents, world leaders and "who knows who"
now. What is going on is a battle for "control of the bridge of Spaceship
Earth." At the level where this stuff may be or may not be "real," as we
objectively may define reality, it's all just an academic exercise. But
beliefs kill, as events of September 11 have shown us. Reliance on yet
another set of "revealed truths" from "hidden sky gods" is unlikely to
advance humanity's collective intelligence sufficiently or in time for us to
avoid, or resist, the planned depopulation and global takeover the oligarchs
who have funded this clearly have planned for "the rest of us." Mr.
Rockefeller is said to believe, because one of the channellers of the Nine
told him so, that he has been born again on Earth, (reincarnated), into his
position of wealth and global influence, because he was once a Pharaoh, and
before that a ruler of Atlantis. The "search" underway for artifacts of
ancient Egypt, which these people believe is descended from the Lost
Continent of Atlantis, which reputedly had contacts with ETs and in some
fashion may have been caught up in a "War in the Heavens," as Billy Graham
and others have called it (in print, variously), is the oligarchs quest for
Legitimacy.
They believe they were sent "back down here" to help Earth correct and avoid
the mistakes of the long distant past, revealed to us now only in the fogs
of
myth and legends. Shamanically, using hallucinogens secreted from Nazi
Germany before the end of the Second World War, these men (mostly men, at
the
beginning) believed that Hitler was on the right path, but his own
megalomania corrupted and sunk him in his efforts to impose a Teutonic
resurgence to world rule. This is what THEY believe!
To them, having stumbled into their "nest" and subsequently researched their
own listerature, doctrine and in literally thousands of hours of research
and
conversation with them, I have said. "Your plan will not work. You will have
to 'show your talons' in order to impose your rule over humanity, because of
core traits in human character. We love freedom; without it we die. But not
all of us. You will never conquer us all."
And to them, and to you, I add this: "The degree of tyranny necessary to
govern Earth in the future is inversely proportional to how effective we
(and
"They) can be as teachers."
By their fruits, shall ye know them.
Let's be careful "Out There."
Dick Farley <cloudrider@...>
Washington, DC USA
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Keep doing it until you get it right!
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The mind control problem is fast becoming one of the largest and most menacing faces of that many-headed beast called The Conspiracy. It's been blamed for everything from the Kennedy assasination to alien abductions. Here Adam Gorightly delves deep into this murky world, and doesn't like what he finds there.
Interestingly, in a recent communication, Adam told me that Martin Cannon, author of the seminal samizdat essay "The Controllers" (1989), has, in a new book version of this work, been forced to reconsider many of his original conclusions (that alien abductions are a front for mind control operations) after finding that some of his sources were suffering from mental illness.
Magonia will keep you microwaved as to the ongoing situation.
PKD, THE UNICORN AND OPERATION MIND CONTROL
By Adam Gorightly
In December '93 I penned a piece entitled PKD, The Unicorn and Soviet Psychotronics, which addressed--among other things--Soviet mind control experiments utilizing technologies discovered by Serbian inventor Nikola Tesla around the turn of the century.
PKD, of course, was Philip K. Dick, the late great speculative fiction novelist, who believed many strange things had happened to his head during the seventies, one such event being an alien invasion with just this type of Tesla technology. Phil later came to believe this Soviet mind control experiment upon his temporal lobe had developed into something far more stranger (if that was at all possible) when an alien entity consisting of pure information skyjacked these psychotronically produced Soviet projections, using them to beam extraterrestrial messages of a benevolent nature into Phil's oft befuddled mind.
"The Unicorn"--as he was known to friends and fellow researchers--was none other than Ira Einhorn, a prominent figure in the New Age Counterculture of the late sixties and seventies. Phil and Ira became acquainted through the auspices of CoEvolution Quarterly, later renamed The Whole Earth Review, a by-product of former Merry Prankster Stewart Brand's revolutionary brainchild, The Whole Earth Catalog. Within the letter section of CoEvolution Quarterly, Dick and Einhorn initiated a dialogue on Soviet psychotronics & mind control, and it's far reaching implications. Shortly afterwards, Einhorn's girlfriend and fellow researcher, Holly Maddux's dismembered body parts were discovered in a steamer trunk in Einhorn's Philadelphia apartment, and Einhorn charged with her murder.
In PKD, The Unicorn and Soviet Psychotronics I presented what at that time was nothing more than a visceral theory which posited that Einhorn might've been set up to take the rap of Holly's murder to silence him at a juncture when he was bringing to the forefront Tesla's hidden technologies, and the profound impact these technologies would have upon humankind if they were to ever become widely known. Now, just recently, an affirmation of my gut feeling/theory has been seconded by Walter Bowart in a revised and updated edition of his classic Operation Mind Control( OMC), recently reissued by Flatland.
In Chapter 29: Invisible Warfare, Bowart discusses areas of mind control that--at the time of the first printing of OMC in the late seventies--were just beginning to come to the attention of cryptocracy/conspiracy researchers. A more advanced technology of mind control--according to Bowart--had taken the place of such traditional covert modus operandi as mind altering drugs and hypnosis, supplanting them with the insidious use of various psychotronic technologies such as ELF waves, microwaves and other forms of electromagnetic manipulation, whereby waves tuned to a certain frequency could induce a subject to become more prone to auto-suggestion, and perhaps even induce depressive or overly aggressive ASC's. (Some of these weapons have been referred to as Non-Lethal in recent military literature.) Besides affecting the human mind and body, some have suggested, certain forms of electromagnetic waves could also effect weather patterns from great distances.
One of the chief proponents in exposing the use of these covert technologies is Lt. Colonel Thomas Beardon, USAF(Ret.), a close friend and former associate of the aforementioned "Unicorn". A former military intelligence officer, Beardon publishes Specula, a magazine devoted to "psychotronics" and "bio-energetics". In the mid eighties, Bill Jenkins hosted a radio program on AM KFI in Los Angeles which on a weekly basis dealt with subjects of the paranormal. The first time I tuned into Jenkin's show his guest was none other than Col. Beardon, who spoke of a mysterious "woodpecker" signal, which during that era had become quite the hot topic among ham operators around the world. The so-called "woodpecker" signal could be replicated by tapping a pencil on a table between eight and fourteen times each second. Beardon claimed this signal emanated from the Soviet Union and had been traced to an alleged "Tesla Generator" in the cities of Riga and Gomel, and that the "woodpecker" signal was responsible for weather modification wars covertly waged upon an unsuspecting United States citizenry by the wily and unscrupulous Russians. These manipulations of U.S. weather patterns created a drought in the western states which ostensibly caused severe effects on farming and the economy in 1976, the same year the infamous "woodpecker" signal was first discovered. Such discoveries as these--shared with, and dispersed by, The Unicorn--are what many believe led to his subsequent fall from grace, when the figurative horn fell from his head, as he shed his Unicorn identity, sinking into the shadows of anonymity, to escape the dragnet of Big Brother.
Einhorn--prior to his arrest and subsequent flight from the authorities--was what Bowart termed "a dangerous free thinker." He'd become a one man army dedicated to information proliferation, setting up a vast network to disseminate the cutting edge ideas promulgated by a legion of new age physicists and researchers of whom he'd become associated, making available the actual blueprints of Tesla's inventions to any one who requested them, for a nominal fee. In so doing, Einhorn created a network along the lines of forums now accessible on The Internet. Eventually--had he not been "Put down, smudged, smeared, framed" as Bowart asserts--Einhorn and his ideas would probably be reaching a far wider audience through today's computer forums than what was possible in the late seventies via snail mail. These dangerous ideas consisted of information and designs of "free energy machines" along the lines of what Tesla had invented, as well as information on the various PSYOPS to which the military and intelligence agencies had been covertly applying these technologies.
As previously stated in PKD, The Unicorn and Soviet Psychotronics, Einhorn first came to the attention of the American public as Master of Ceremonies for the first Earth Day Celebration in 1970. Over the ensuing years, this event has unfortunately become a cooperate sponsored shadow of it's former self. Where the earlier versions were known for their radical and activist agendas, more recent incarnations of "Earth Day" have become increasingly soft pedaled and watered down by the cooperate elite; like a Burger King, for instance, who promote the use of recyclable products, while at the same time hacking away at what's left of the Earth's rapidly diminishing rain forests.
TAmong his many contacts, friends and acquaintances Einhorn counted such luminaries as Michael Murphy of Esalen Institute, astronauts Buzz Aldrin and Edgar Mitchell, Uri Geller and Andrija Puharich, Arthur C. Clarke, Arthur Koestler, Stewart Brand, UFO authority Jacques Vallee, Steven Speilberg and George Lucas, EST founder Werner Erhard, not to mention leading edge Quantum physicists Fred Wolf and Jack Sarfatti--of whom, for both--Einhorn even served for awhile as literary agent.
Being tapped into, as he was, this so-called cutting edge pipe line of new age thinkers, Einhorn--because of his vast knowledge of the latest discoveries and happenings in the rapidly developing communications industries, and other technologies--worked on retainer as a consultant for several large corporations, among them AT&T.
Einhorn also served for a time as an aid to Congressman Charlie Rose (D-N.C.), who himself was keenly interested in Tesla's inventions, and other suppressed high-tech. Elsewhere in OMC, Bowart chronicles a meeting between Congressman Rose and a Canadian inventor in the late seventies who had developed a helmet--that when placed upon the head--would take it's wearer into another world, much like the VR eyegear-unit postulated in the movie Brainstorm.
One such virtual reality scenario played out upon the wearer's of said helmet was a mock alien abduction. Congressman Rose put on the helmet and was run through this virtual reality/alien abduction programme. Much to his amazement, the simulated scenario seemed incredibly realistic. This device sounds quite similar to Michael Persinger's much touted "Magic Helmet", which has been receiving a fair amount of press recently. Although Bowart doesn't name the inventor of the helmet, chances are it was Persinger to whom he was referring. Persinger's name has also been bandied about by mind control investigator, Martin Cannon--in his treatise The Controllers--as a behind the scenes player in intelligence operations related to MK-ULTRA. The Controllers main premise is that alien abductions are screen memories to conceal covert mind control operations employed by Intelligence Agencies.
Bowart goes further to illustrate this so-called "dangerous free thinking" of Einhorn's in quoting from Sarfatti's Illuminati, which appeared on the INTERNET in '92, mentioning Einhorn frequently within it's text..
Jack Sarfatti was a prominent member in Einhorn's inner circle of "cosmic conspiracy" allies. In Sarfatti's Illuminati, Sarfatti described a meeting which once took place with other illuminaries of this "free thinking" scene in Uri Geller's hotel room. Those in attendance consisted of Sarfatti, Uri and his mentor Andrija Puharich, Brendan O'Regan of The Stanford Research Institute, and Einhorn. At this time Sarfatti remembers startling "...Uri by asking him if he could trigger a nuclear weapon by psychokinesis. I later found out from Ron McRae (author of Mind Wars) that some of our intelligence people were greatly concerned about that possibility. I may have initiated that concern..." Later Sarfatti says:"Former naval Intelligence and Jack Anderson reporter Ron McRae told me that the Navy had been fooled by phony data on remote viewing of Soviet submarines because someone had leaked the actual data to phony psychics. McRae seems to have omitted this story from his book...Barbara Honegger said that policy decisions on the basing of MX missiles were made by Reagan staff under the belief that remote-viewing worked. Harold Chipman believed that it worked and told me that he had used it successfully in his business..."
What I find most interesting is the interrelationship between so-called "psychic energy", and electromagnetics. Is the transmission of psychotronic thought projections into a subject's mind via low frequency waves the same phenomenon that occurs with telepathy or telekinesis? Remote viewing is basically astral projection; the transportation of one's spirit energies through time and space, and the astral body is often described as an electrical-type energy. In my own very brief and limited excursions into the astral plane, there was always the sensation of electrical energy moving through and transporting my astral body. Do all of these phenomena derive from the same elemental force; an unseen energy that can manifest within various frequencies and spectrums?
The shaman uses his astral body to heal the sick. Conversely, the psychic spook uses these powers to spy on the enemy. Are these currents of energy which Healers generate, the very same electromagnetic, biomagnetic or psychotronic energies that nowadays can be harnessed into portable microwave weapons with uses and unlimited applications for purposes good or ill?
As a writer & researcher directing his energies into the areas of UFO's, conspiracies and paranormal phenomena, I receive a lot of high weirdness by mail. Some solicited; others transmorgifying from The Great Beyond. (The Truth is Out There.) One curious item I received via US mail was an advertisement for a Remote Viewing seminar, which I found out later had been sponsored by some ex-military type spook. And why was I chosen to receive this remote-viewing mailer? To this, I've arrived at a couple crank theories. 1) They got my name from some other fringe mailing list, or 2) They somehow discovered--that sometime in the past--I'd personally experienced astral projection, thereby making me a prime candidate to attend these sessions, as I could be used later & covertly as a remote-viewing intelligence asset.
Aside from friends and fellow researchers--with whom I'd shared my astral projection experiences--these astral rantings of mine were also sent to the shadowy cast of characters who ran a short-lived Paranormal/UFO magazine. The editor of said mag wrote me requesting a look at some of my UFO-related writings, so I sent him various stuff, naively thinking that I might one day see my by-line blazoned gloriously upon it's slick and glossy cover. Curiously enough, this magazine folded around the same time that they were also initiating this spurious contact with me, thereby arousing my suspicion that the main ulterior motive for their communique was to gather intelligence on yours truly, for sinister aims unknown. Of course, this may purely be my own private paranoia rearing it's overly-inventive head. Nonetheless, at least one writer for this short-lived and largely circulated magazine, was an admitted disinformationalist with alleged ties to the intelligence community. (Not to mention it's publisher, who is probably one of the more bizarre figures in the history of the medium, whom other researchers have claimed is himself an unfortunate victim of mind control.)
Some have suggested (such as John Judge and David Emory) that the Alien Abduction phenomenon sweeping these United States--and the planet as a whole--are in essence mind control matrixes used by intelligence organizations for various means, one being a method for creating mind controlled assassins along the lines of John Hinkley, Jr., or Sirhan Sirhan.
Bowart finds these theories quite plausible, and throughout OMC cites several specific instances where the Alien Abduction Phenomenon and/or The Satanic Ritual Abuse Syndrome were used as vehicles to facilitate Mind Control programmes upon unwitting subjects.
In the late seventies, one such incident of hypnotic regression centered around a small alien costume, much like the one used in Speilberg's ET, filmed a few years afterwards. The eyewitness account of this hypnotically regressed subject claimed to have seen a young child dressed in this outfit, portraying an alien as part of a mind programming scenario. (A recent episode of the X-Files also used this theme.) None of this, of course, dismisses outright the UFO phenomenon; nor does it mean we have not been visited by EBE's. Nevertheless, it's implications are staggering when one considers the impact and subsequent commercialization of the Alien Abduction Phenomenon, and how it has challenged and reshaped the belief systems and psyches of millions upon millions of the planet's inhabitants, in essence creating a new paradigm that prior to thirty years ago was virtually non-existent.
In his audiotape series UFO Phenomenon and ET Myth David Emory listed--in reference to Whitley Strieber and ET Contact--a number things, that we as humans, need to be wary of: "...One, being mind control. Somebody could be placed under hypnosis, and have somebody come in with a suit. Or the other is holograms; holographic projections. And also, genetic engineering, and also the use of those things in combination with each other in terms of actual contact with ET's--real or imagined--and as far as the phenomenon itself: If real flying saucers come down, people are going to be ready to believe in something from outer space...There's so many things in the possession of humans at this time which could be used to simulate that phenomenon...The Whitley Strieber material could be the result of mind control, or the applications of any one of those things."
When Emory refers to real flying saucers coming down, he means man-made terrestrial craft, owned and operated by Big Brother/Uncle Sam. Allegedly, these are very same saucers the Nazi's had developed towards the end of World War 2, that were among the hidden technologies snuck into the good 'ol U.S. of A under the auspices of Project Paperclip, when such notorious Third Reichers as Spymaster Reinhard Gehlen, and Rocket-Boy Werner von Braun--among scores of others--were given asylum in exchange for wartime secrets. With them as well came much useful information in the areas of mind control, rocketry and chemical warfare, which at that time were state of the art in the hands of former Nazi Scientists.I would also at this time like to add my own two bits to Emory's comments: That the idea of holographic projections--in the creation of a mind control hoax--is a scenario I find most compelling, as time goes by. Like Phil Dick pondering VALIS, I've spent many a wee hour contemplating the ultimate meaning of my own UFO encounter; and the idea of holographic projections used in combination with a powerful mind altering chemical like LSD--orchestrated under the direction of some MK Ultra/MIB task force--is certainly something I can buy into. (But like Phil Dick, I'll probably wake up at 3 AM, and come up with another theory that will work equally well, replacing my current thesis of hallucinogenic/holographic mind manipulation with perhaps something tenfold bizarre.
Though at times some of Bowart's claims in OMC seem to border on the outlandish, and push the envelope of credulity (such as Bob Hope's role as a covert controller of a hypnotically programmed Candy Jones-type courier & sex slave) the observations he makes regarding the ET Phenomenon ring true to this observer, running parallel to certain theories presented by the highly respected UFO researcher Jacques Vallee, namely Vallee's Messenger of Deception Hypothesis. One aspect of Vallee's theory postulates that intelligence agents, secret societies and religious cults (or a combination of all three) are behind the UFO phenomenon, orchestrating abductions and manipulating the reality as erroneously perceived by UFO percipients and other assorted dupes and self proclaimed authorities alike, who inhabit the U-fool-ology Community (as Jim "Saucer Smear" Moseley calls it.)
In the conclusion of his 1990 book, Revelations, Vallee felt compelled to quote Phil Dick, whom he seems to regard as a prime example of someone caught in the confusing conundrum of Extraterrestrial Contact: "I will never really know what did in fact happen. Some living, highly intelligent entity manifested itself inside me and around me, but what it was, what it's purpose was, where it came from--I have tried a thousand theories, and all work equally well, but at the same time each theory leaves some data unexplained...and I know this is not going to change. I have the impression that a master gameplayer and magician and trickster is involved."
It was my pet theory, presented in the earlier article, that Phil Dick had--somewhere along the line--been the unwitting recipient of a brain implant, and that this brain implant was used as a receptor for the Zebra/VALIS transmissions.Admittedly, I didn't have much to base this assumption on except for my own somewhat limited knowledge of those 'wavies' who've claimed victimization via similar mind control implants. (I later discovered, in an interview with Greg Rickman, Phil had stated he suspected a brain implant had been placed in his head, and that the Xerox Missive was supposedly a trigger to set off the implant, but failed. For more on this see PKD:THE LAST TESTAMENT by Greg Rickman.) Acting upon my presumption that psychotronic mind control could be enacted only upon brain implanted subjects, I followed my theory (vis-a-vis Phil Dick & VALIS) to a somewhat erroneous conclusion, at least as far as the necessity of inter-cranial implants are concerned.
Now--according to Bowart's OMC --there are numerous sources, which he cites in abundance, that provide overwhelming documentation that the practitioners of mind control technology don't necessarily require remote-controlled implants embedded in their subjects to enable the beaming of missives and other forms of mental harassment and psychological torture, such as intense feelings of anxiety and the inducement of trance states which engender the receiver to post hypnotic suggestion, for example. The human brain itself appears to be a suitable receptor. Much in the same fashion that telepathy would be received, so presumably can the electromagnetic projections of psychotronic engineers, albeit unwillingly on the part of the targeted victims.
At the end of Chapter 28 of OMC, Bowart makes his one and only reference to PKD, while commenting upon the best selling books of the so-called Cyberpunk literary movement. (Many consider Dick, along with William S. Burroughs, the precursors of Cyberpunk fiction.) Bowart claims that "Cyberpunk" writers such as William Gibson, Bruce Sterling and others "romanticize a cybernetic reality." Having read Neuromancer, and a few other titles, I don't necessarily pick up the same sense of romanticism as does Bowart. From the small amount of Cyberpunk fiction I have read, I think these authors are doing what all good science fiction writers through the decades have attempted; to send out red flares to this and future generations, alerting us to the potential pitfalls that can arise from the misuse of science and technology, and it's possible deleterious effects upon human free will. Bowart mentions PKD in brief, focusing on Dick's autobiographical novel, VALIS, describing it as a "highly literate description of the things the "survivors" of the so-called MTS are describing." (Elsewhere in OMC, Bowart provides documentation on the Mental Telepathy System (MTS), a CIA sponsored mind control experiment revolving around the use of psychotronics.) Bowart then proceeds to quote Dick from VALIS on this phenomenon: "...A perturbation in the reality field in which a spontaneous self-monitoring negentropic vortex is formed, tending progressively to subsume and incorporate its environment into arrangements of information. Characterized by quasi-consciousness, purpose, intelligence, growth and an armillary coherence..."
In an excerpt from his newsletter MK Quarterly, self proclaimed mind control victim Bernie Nelson relates his own ominous tale, which sounds resoundingly familiar to the countless other stories of alleged mind control victims found in Bowart's OMC, and other related publications such as Cannon's The Controllers.
While Bernie's brain was being butt-fucked by malevolent psychotronic beams to the verge of insanity in a hotel room in Austin TX, a mysterious voice in his head told him that one of the "Chicago 8" (Abbie Hoffman) was likewise being bombarded ala MK-ULTRA with the same sort of technology aimed at driving the late Mr. Hoffman over the edge, which is apparently what very well might've happened when dear departed Abbie allegedly committed suicide by swallowing 150 phenobarbital capsules, washing them down with alcohol. By doing himself in, perhaps this was Abbie's way of refusing to be controlled. Or, on the other hand, maybe this was the reason Abbie was being psychotronically harassed in the first place; i.e. to get rid of him 'cause he'd become a pain in the arse to the Establishment.
After emerging from the underground in the early eighties and surrendering himself to the long arm of the law, Abbie soon found himself once again in the thick of radical/activist causes, protesting with Amy Carter the on-campus recruitment at Columbia U. of prospective CIA employees. This case was taken all the way to the Supreme Court, where Hoffman, Carter et al. won a ruling in their case.
Abbie's last great cause was his war on "The War on Drugs" with his controversial book Steal This Urine Test in which he took to task the hypocritical stance of Herr Reagan and Bush and their phony "War", as all the while the likes of Ollie North turned a blind eye to the illegal transportation of weapons and drugs going back and forth between the United States and Nicaragua in planes piloted by a seamy underground network of U.S. affiliated rogue spooks and soldiers of fortune.
Some friends of Abbie say manic depression led to his suicide, while others say this was bullshit and that Abbie was another in a long line of political assassinations which has marred this country with it's dark bloody stain for several decades now.
With Abbie's passing from the earthly plane, The Chicago 8 instantaneously became the Chicago 7. Now, with Jerry's Rubin's recent unfortunate and curious separation of the mortal coil--being run down by a car in L.A.--it's now the Chicago 6 , and going fast.
Some contend (among them the brilliant conspiracy theorist and equally dead--by mysterious means--Mae Brussell) that Jerry and Abbie were agent provacatuers working hand in glove with the American Intelligence Community to infiltrate and subvert the counterculture movement of the late great sixties. ("Never trust anybody over thirty," Jerry Rubin once proclaimed. He just happened to be over 30 when he uttered that famous pronouncement.) If not for Rubin and Hoffman performing their function as leaders of the YIPPIES in organizing the protest of the 1968 Democratic National Convention, could perhaps The Chicago riots been averted and the Democratic Party not have been stigmatized by the negative press resulting from the gestapo-like tactics of Mayor Daley and his brownshirts in the streets of Chicago? Furthermore, if the siege of Chicago hadn't gone down, might Tricky Dick have lost the '68 Presidential Race, and with a Democratic administration in place then would we have seen a quicker resolution to the war in Vietnam? Obviously, these are questions that can never be fully answered unless one finds a passageway into a parallel world where bad things like the offing of the Brothers Kennedy never happened; or a better world where Vietnam never escalated into horrific proportions, in addition to becoming the training ground for a new generation of mind controlled assassins, as Bowart contends in Chapter 2 of OMC: Only One Mind For My Country, which tells the story of a lad using the alias of David.
David, though he didn't serve in Vietnam, enlisted in the military in 1969 and was recruited by Air Force Intelligence. After David returned from duty, his time spent in the military as a warehouseman seemed almost a dream. David served not only in California, North Dakota, but also Guam, yet it all seemed like a hazy blur to him, and there was much "missing time" he could not account for.
Eventually David went to a psychiatrist to unlock these hidden memories, which were causing him extreme psychological and emotional distress. The discoveries David's psychiatrist unearthed were mind blowing and revelatory, revealing that David had become a Manchurian Candidate victim of mind control, the effects of which he is still recovering from to this day. This aspect of "missing time" (a phrase coined by Budd Hopkins in regards to ET's) once again brings us back to Alien Abductions, where missing time is a recurring theme, as it is in so-called Satanic Ritual Abuse. What Bowart discovered in his research was that these various phenomena (alien abductions, ritual abuse, or even something more mundane like performing the duties of an airforce warehouseman) were simply cover stories for what was really going on deep down in the psyche of mind control victims. The mind controlled Psyche--like a onion--needs to be peeled back layer by layer until finally the deprogrammer is able to arrive at the real story of what has taken place within the scarred minds of these purported MK-ULTRA victims. And--as the psychiatrists who have been involved in this work have shared with Bowart--this is no easy process. It may, in fact, take several years of therapy--with a single patient--of peeling back all these mental layers and, in some cases, but not all, finally discovering the exact and well-hidden triggers that open up the various doors upon doors within their minds, at last leading to the hidden truth. Sometimes, this is a dangerous proposition, indeed; for not only the patient, who if given the wrong trigger might be programmed to self-destruct; but for the therapists as well, who have found many of their lives threatened by unlocking secrets that, more often than not, lead back to American Intelligence or rogue agents and other spooky mind controllers--including cults with intelligence connections--who are involved in this vast conspiracy of mind control, referred to by those in the know as Operation Monarch.
In retrospect, I believe Jerry Rubin probably was an agent provacatuer, though I have my doubts about Abbie being a provacatuer; at least a witting one. It's also worth noting that Abbie and Ira Einhorn were revolutionary pals before Abbie went underground due to a coke sting in the early seventies, ostensibly set up by Government Narcs. Around the time Abbie emerged from the underground, The Unicorn had began his own nefarious descent into the nether regions of safe houses, forged passports and funky disguises, submerging into a life on the lam. It never ceases to amaze this reporter, when you look at some of the most influential figures of the sixties--those who really did the most to shape, influence and inspire the "peace and love" generation--that most of them are now dead and buried, or missing in action like Ira "The Unicorn" Einhorn. Abbie & Jerry, case in point. The Kennedy's, blasted by blood splattering bullets to their respective brains. Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, and the most important members of the Black Panther Party all gone, kaput, mortalities of COINTELPRO. The three J's: Jim, Janis and Jimi--also coincidentally targeted by the FBI--now sing the blues in Rock N' Roll Heaven. John Lennon pumped full of hot lead outside the Dakota by a mind-controlled baby faced assassin. Lenny Bruce, like dead fat Elvis, a blue bloated corpse on a bathroom floor with underwear wrapped around cold ankles. Huey Newton, shot dead over a alleged drug deal gone sour. Emmet Grogan--the main man behind the Haight Ashbury Diggers--O.D.'d on the subway in New York. Jack Kerouac and Neal Cassady, the two most seminal influences from the Beat fifties that influenced the psychedelic sixties--dead by '69, passing with the decade. Phil Ochs--the anti-war activist/folk singer and YIPPIE--found dangling dead, hung on a rope, victim of an apparent suicide. More recently Frank Zappa--a powerful and intelligent political voice--succumbing to prostate cancer. Bob Marley, the voice of Rastafarianism and Jamaican Liberation, falling victim to brain cancer. Peter Tosh--founding member of The Wailers along with Marley--shot dead. Now Kurt Cobain--a voice of a new generation--performing the near impossible task of shooting himself into oblivion while performing fellatio on a shotgun. The same old pattern and questions have arisen from his tragic demise. The list is endless. And who has taken their places? The Black Movement is now full of political opportunists and anti-Semites like Al Sharpton and Louis Farrakhan. Although the Kennedy's were far from perfect (what politician ever is?) who have we seen for a very long time within the political arena that even come close to meeting the potential of the Brothers K? Who's the new John Lennon?
It may appear that I've swerved away from the general topic at hand of mind control and psychotronics, into several tangential conspiracies that only tenuously intertwine and relate to one another. But it's my contention that all of these arcane theories into which I've dangerously delved are interrelated, and are just various tentacles that lead back to the very same "Octopus" that reached out and touched Danny Consolaro, when Consolaro got to close to the Truth.
UFO's, Mind Control, Political Assassinations, et al. are all connected and originate from the same shadowy source. "Is the American Intelligence Community responsible for these conspiracies!!??" you might skeptically inquire, with a perceptible edge to your voice. Well, to some degree, Yes, but that's only a small piece of the puzzle. Other world governments, agencies and secret societies--whose mysterious memberships often overlap into such groups as the Knights of Malta, the P2 Lodge and the Trilateral Commission, to name just a few--are also involved, including front organizations and rogue elements of intelligence agencies that sometimes work autonomously or subcontract to the highest bidder; whatever the weather allows. Although these groups might not have the same exact agenda--and although the various conspiracies they are propagating may in actuality be competing conspiracies --they all work together (although frequently oblivious of one another, or in apparent conflict--either real of perceived) to form one continuous whole that maintains an ultimate power control group, keeping those select few in power who hide in the shadows pushing the buttons and pulling the levers, manipulating the events of the world--just like the mystery man behind the purple velvet curtain in the Merry old land of Oz. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
Each of these groups taken singularly do not represent the whole. In this manner all these agencies and secret societies often overlap and intersect. The Octopus, The Conspiracy, or whatever one chooses to call It , is a synthesis of all these various and competing conspiracies that form a unified field theory. Though each and every competing conspiracy involved may have a different set agenda, they all eventually intersect somewhere in the belly of that great metaphorical Beast 666, that for want of a better name I call the Octopus, but which could also be called The One World Government, The New World Odor, or the Illuminaughty. You can point an accusing finger at such diverse entities as Wall Street Bankers, The Communist Conspiracy, CFR, The Freemasons, or British Royalty--the list goes on and on. But pinning the blame on such disparate conspiratorial scapegoats as these is far too simple, for the sum is greater than the parts. The left hand doesn't always know what the right hand is doing. For as long as these competing conspiracies do not come in conflict with those "handful of manipulative pimps" (as Dick Gregory likes to call them) that stand in the shadows--pulling the strings of us meat puppets--then such strange phenomena and conspiracies as presented in this sometimes rambling and paranoia-fueled treatise will continue on, ad nauseum, until that faraway day when the curtain is finally drawn to reveal The Great and Powerful Oz, cowering in the shadows, naked and unmasked. Hopefully that day will eventually dawn.
I would like to wrap up this long winded and unwieldy rant with a quote from the recently published 50 Greatest Conspiracies of All Time by Vankin & Whalen. In the final chapter Vankin and Whalen conclude their collection of conspiracies with the Mother of them all: the continually perplexing and infinitely tragic JFK Assassination. I present the following paragraph because it sums up in a few words what I've just spent several paragraphs clumsily trying to outline; that being a theory of competing conspiracies; a thesis echoed by others, like Ishmael Reed in his book Mumbo Jumbo, and the always controversial John Judge.
"So who killed JFK? The CIA? Anti-Castro fanatics? The Mafia? The military? A cabal of wealthy right-wing extremists? Or were they all somehow in league? There is evidence for any of the above. And all. Perhaps there were multiple plots against Kennedy that coalesced into one gigantic coverup with each party protecting it's own interests but not necessarily cognizant of it's counterparts' involvement."
I believe the above quote is only a microcosm in the macrocosm of conspiracy politics; as mind control, psychotronics, and the "War On Drugs" are simply a few of the various weapons being used to wage war upon human free will, and the individual sovereignty of our minds.
Global Emergency Alert Response as bcc 2002 action info overview
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/an-american-peace-movement
J-W, Thanks, I got the videotapes a day or so after your last email. Any
suggestions how I go about getting my 5-10min MFPE '98 talk from Hi8 tape
digitized and up on the net at some url? Do you know a website where I can
inquire about this? That March for Peaceful Energy talk pretty much covered
the topics in my Global Emergency Alert Response (~'99?) article for Student
Environmental Action Coalition national Threshold magazine a couple of years
ago (not sure they printed it after editor requested it) posted at
http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000/gear.html
Are you set up where you are still active on the internet?
Interesting stuff happening last week in a classic case of new-energy
invention suppression with the imprisonment of Bob Lantz in Reno NV, and the
3-rd Strike being faced by Sister Somayah in her trial starting Feb.28 for
medical marijuana over her sickle cell anemia which has her now in the
hospital apparently due to pending trial disallowance of her use of medical
cannabis. Each of these cases could use letters of support to get coverage
of their stories by media listed in recent posts to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bob-lantz and
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sister-somayah Somayah is LA coordinator for
harm reduction MMM annual march event on anti-addiction and ending the
marijuana fraud http://www.cures-not-wars.org 136 cities globally so far
this year early May.
Also, let your contacts in CA know about initiative to amend 3-strikes law
http://www.Amend3Strikes.org needing petitioners now being coordinated by
Californians Against Violent Crime. Got to spend a couple days with Woody
Harrelson on his Simple Organic Living Tour last year in CA
http://www.voiceyourself.com and gave him another copy of Jeane Manning's
book "The Coming Energy Revolution" which he said he was interested to read.
Next months campaign with O'Leary et al as "Global Citizens for a
Sustainable Existence Now!" after 3 monthly meetings in LA area include
focus 'til June 13 on a Global Treaty Banning Space Based Weapons
http://www.peaceinspace.com (with some of key folks from disclosure
projects, actor/activists, etc), a 2-day retreat upcoming in May this year
about
creating a global government system like a global green democracy
to transcend national government limitations, eg, in solving energy and
environmental problems, and a simultaneous policy concept which I am pushing
to influence elections this November with a campaign to see nobody gets
elected
who does not adopt the american-simultaneous-policy agenda (links below)
After 27 years, I got to deliver my first public speech* on my Tetron
Thesis,
at my alma mater, Cal State University Northridge on Sept.10 at my 3rd
Global Crisis Solutions Conference, that session w/ Drs. O'Leary and
Wood, Jack Herer, et al. *
http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/gcsc-csun/message/6
The 2nd session 1999 at UC Berkeley was MC'd by Plunker who I know from
Rainbow Gatherings described at http://www.welcomehome.org and included
O'Leary, Wood, Chris Conrad, Mike Ruppert, Yamato, et al.
http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000/gcsc2.html
The CA energy czar cancelled O'Leary's appointment last month to brief him
and I'm not sure what to do next on that case but pressure CA energy
authorities via media lobbying on this story?. Also working on a testing
protocol for Joseph Newman's machine to "control" the experiment for
"variable observer effect". Posts on these subjects are at
new-energy-solutions list shown below. O'Leary, Wood, Hal Fox et al went
with me to Governor Davis' office and California Energy Commission to
initiate new-energy briefings for them early August last year and nobody yet
reports they have responded with interest. Governor Davis is up for
election this year.
Tell me you want to and have time to be an active part of my email
networking/outreach campaigns and I will copy you posts as I send them out.
Miss your collaboration as we did with MFPE. I've been keeping in touch of
course with Thomas who got '98 Energy letter from DOE http://www.prop1.org,
and Remy Chevalier (both bcc above) has http://www.endsecrecy.com where
he posted your photo of me at MFPE at bottom of page and he has a nice list
at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/endsecrecy where he regularly posts
interesting
multi-issue stuff. He is also working on development of Hemp Protein Powder
Isolate as a business project. We've been a little out of touch in recent
months but before that have had some intense exchanges of good info and
shared some hassles on an advanced theoretical physics group which also took
some flak from UMD hacks a year or so back http://www.stardrive.org by
"post-quantum physics of consciousness" theoretician Jack Sarfatti whose
list includes lots of (ex-?) spooks from "psychic mafia" and CIA
mind-control experiments days in '70's. Jack says my "theory" is "new-age
psychobabble" and he doesn't understand or agree with what I call the
"variable observer effect" but I'm in touch with some interesting folks
separately who I
met on his list such as Hal Puthoff who I'm trying to arrange to test
Newman's machine http://www.josephnewman.com as Hal has said
he wants to, and my friend Foxfire from the Rainbow Gatherings witnessed
with positive results yesterday in Phoenix. We may do a walk in the
Spring from a regional gathering in AZ to Flagstaff and Hopi on the
new-inventions mutual-prophecy-fulfillment theme.
You should check out Thomas Bearden's website started fairly recently with
help from a good webmaster and now lots of great articles including
discussion of his functional solid-state "ZPE generator"
http://www.cheniere.org . Have been in contact with "infamous" Ira Einhorn
of Sarfatti's network who was championing Bearden's work in the '70's and
the alphabet-spook skullduggery apparently got him framed for murder as he
was finally extradited from France and now in PA prison awaiting new trial
which should be major event publicity to bring out related psi-weapons,
mind-control, new-energy tech, etc, issues in coming months -- a big
publicity deal in Philly since Ira as the "Unicorn" was big in 60's-70's
there in movement activism, Sarfatti's book agent, etc.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ira-einhorn Looks like he was framed like
Bill Tyree to shut him up about US-spook-related skullduggery. Do site
search for Tyree story at http://www.copvcia.com . Also see site of one
Einhorn acquaintance, former GHWBush HUD assistant secretary Catherine
Austin Fitts at http://www.solari.com for amazing insights into overall
behind-the-scenes global economic system problems and remedies (Enron
example of "reverse pop").
Not too long after 9-11, I went to K-Mart and got new outfit, all woodlands
camo stuff which I'm wearing all the time now with rainbow braids etc
portraying, as I told Jun-san the nun doing the 2002 Hiroshima Flame
Interfaith Pilgrimage from Seattle to the UN Jan.15-May12 Seattle to UN
http://www.dharmawalk.org -- as the "Rainbow Warrior" look :-)
Someone last Friday said "you look supercamoflagilistic" :-)
Your friend,
David
David Crockett Williams III, C.L.U., B.S.
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Tehachapi, California (d.o.b. 05-17-45)
(formerly, Santa Barbara '74-~'97, San Fernando Valley '49-'74)
For the direct cause of true peace with harmony among all life and
free natural abundance as paradise on Earth via a future global
computer network psibernetics program called Torahk.
http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000/vision.html
Global Emergency Alert Response
http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000
Science and Technology in Society and Public Policy
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dcwilliamshttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/new-energy-solutions
American Simultaneous Policy Committee
Cultures and Community Advice
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/american-simultaneous-policy
Global Citizens for a Sustainable Existence Now!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gcsenhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/an-american-peace-movement
Trombly's personal history dates and info, timeframe of his claimed "who
knew what when" seems to support themes regarding Einhorn being framed
during "dangerous 70's" of scientific national insecurity?
http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/feb2/trombly.htm
Vol 2 Feb 2002
The Truth
About ZP
Technology
A Wake-Up Call to
the American People
an interview with Adam Trombly
by Celeste Adams
Adam Trombly is one of the top scientists in the world in the development
and creation of Zero Point Energy technology. Devices that he built are
working today in other parts of the world. And yet, instead of using Zero
Point Energy, Adam Trombly's own house in Maui is being fitted with a bank
of expensive solar panels.
Why can't Trombly use his own expertise to fuel his own home? Trombly has
spent most of his professional life under one gag order or another. But he
decided, he told us, "that if I was going to give an interview for this
particular publication, I wasn't going to pull any punches."
If much of this seems overly negative, keep reading. Trombly wants to wake
us up, and to shine a light upon things that have been kept dark. But his
grounding is deeply spiritual. It's just that the Divine forces that seek to
assist us cannot do so unless we call upon them. "Now, in this moment," he
tells us, "we must come out and ask for help. When we can ask for help, we
get it."
Adam Trombly's revelations will shock you to the depths. But it is his hope,
and ours, that it will help you to awaken, or to assist you in your task of
awakening others.
Trombly's ultimate vision is the "redreaming of the American Dream."
Adams: How did you become interested in free energy?
Trombly: I was raised as a scientist and I have spoken the language of
science all of my life. My mother was a blood specialist, my father was a
biochemist, and my sister was at one time a biophysicist.
When my father had just gotten his Ph.D. in biochemistry from Purdue
University - I was a young child - he was enlisted as a biochemist, by a
fellow Purdue alumnus named Frank Olsen, into a U.S. Air Force/CIA joint
project. He was stationed at the biological warfare laboratory in Fort
Detrick, Maryland. This was in 1952 during the Korean Conflict. He had been
a highly decorated U.S. Army Air Corp officer in World War II, but the
government felt that he had a skill of strategic importance to the national
security.
At Fort Detrick, he and Olsen, along with a couple of other scientists, were
working on a very compartmentalized project. Since he died when I was in the
eighth year of this body, I knew very, very little about what this project
involved. On the seventh anniversary of his death (4/3/1967) I was in my
mother's attic, putting out mousetraps, when I discovered a couple of boxes
that contained journals my father had kept during his time at Detrick. You
weren't supposed to keep journals, but he did.
One of the things he wrote about in his journals was his exposure to alien
technology that totally defied what were considered, at that time and even
still to this day, the laws of physics.
He wrote a letter to Dr. Quackenbush, who was on his dissertation board at
Purdue, saying that what he had seen challenged even his "most vivid
imagination." This was right after he got there.
After he had been there about a year, the notes he wrote got really
interesting. He specifically described various technologies which he stated
plainly were of "alien origin." He described not only flying disk-shaped
craft and their related energy and propulsion systems, but Extraterrestrial
Biological Entities. His work was actually concerned with them.
On November 19, 1953, my father (along with Dr. Frank Olson and a couple of
other colleagues) was taken by Dr. Sidney Gottlieb to a summer camp near
Baltimore. While there, he and his colleagues were involuntarily given large
doses of LSD in their cocktails; doses on the order of 10,000 to 15,000
micrograms. Olsen knew about the experiment, and out of concern for my
father told him, "Harvey you have been given a psychoactive drug and you are
beginning to feel its effects. Don't worry."
Olsen had also taken a large dose of acid, and later freaked out because he
said he had, "blown the experiment." It was supposed to be a double-blind
experiment for all of the participants other than Olsen. He was supposed to
keep silent.
Frank Olsen continued to feel unsettled, and was rushed by CIA personnel to
New York for psychiatric examination. Something terrible happened instead.
Frank was bludgeoned in the head and then thrown from his hotel room window.
He was murdered. This, at least, was the conclusion of forensic pathologists
hired by Frank's son Eric in 1994.
My father filed an internal protest demanding an investigation of his
friend's and colleague's death, and that was what ultimately triggered the
events that killed him.
In January of 1954, under the illusion that he was being immunized from a
new retroviral biological warfare agent, he was injected instead with a live
virus that he had discovered during his research. He became extremely ill.
In his notes, he indicated that he immediately knew. "They killed Frank," he
said, "and now they have killed me. The difference is that I will die
slowly, very slowly."
He died in 1960, from a form of lymphoma as eleven government labs did
morphological workups of his cells.
When I discovered that his death had not been an accident of nature, I was
heartbroken. I despaired of life. I sat with a knife a quarter inch into my
chest, with blood already trickling down, begging whoever was present at
Infinity to reveal the truth of existence.
And in the next moment, I suddenly had no doubt of God or, if you prefer,
the Buddha Nature, and I saw things with great clarity.
Adams: Do you believe that we're in denial about the involvement of aliens
in the affairs of this planet?
Trombly: The American public has been lied to for so long, they wouldn't be
able to recognize the truth if Jesus told them personally.
It's very difficult for the American public to know what is going on. In
many ways, we are a nation in denial, and all too often a nation of
alcoholics and drug addicts. We are in incredible mass denial.
People see what are referred to as flying saucers and UFOs. Sometimes they
are not saucers but triangles. Sometimes they're small, and sometimes
they're huge and look like buildings.
It doesn't matter how many people in remote places or in cities see them, or
photograph or videotape them. The perceptions are simply shut out.
There are amazing mind-control projects going on. People literally cannot
maintain their attention span. More than once I have stood and watched
crafts 100 or 200 feet over my head and had people say things like, "Well
that's not an airplane," or "Oh, my God, are we actually seeing this?" "Is
that real?"
But by the next day, the whole chemistry of denial has set in and those same
people say, "Wow, that was a strange airplane, it was going really slow, or
really fast, and how did it make that right turn?"
This is what got me started in free energy technology - though I hate the
term free energy, because it's anything but free. Many have paid dearly for
its advent. I don't even know what term I like at this point. I use the term
Zero Point Fluctuation Technology - ZP Technology.
I used to have a company called Zero Point Technology. As soon as you put
something like that on your shingle, you discover just how unacceptable this
concept is to those whose growth stopped so long ago.
People are being bombarded with subliminal messages that tell them that
aliens don't exist. Even The "X-Files," which is a joke (thank God they're
canceling it), was originally intended, by Chris Carter, to be something
more than just random amusement. It was intended to be groundbreaking. But
there's government interference. And this is a huge subject. People don't
understand that the "other U.S. government" has had contact for decades with
cultures that aren't from this planet.
We're like the aboriginal people of New Zealand, or Papua, New Guinea, or
any other remote tribe. When they see an airplane, they think that it is a
God - or they at least, they used to. Of course, now they think that it's
just people who are more primitive than they are, but who have technology.
We are the same way with "alien" cultures. We are the same way with really
clean and advanced electrical technologies that could begin to help us
understand just how wonderful and abundant Being - simply being - is.
When I got involved in ZP in 1979, I was warned by Buckminster Fuller that
if we were successful there'd be hell to pay. If we were actually
successful, then it could develop into a real nightmare, because the humans
we're dealing with are a species that has been kept in the dark. We've been
treated like mushrooms (which are kept in the dark and fed a lot of feces --
there's no nice way of putting this).
The extremes to which these people are willing to go to make your life
miserable are phenomenal. They go out of their way to torment those who
challenge their utter mediocrity.
Then there are certain people who hang around in the so-called free energy
field, who speak at conferences and who have never discovered, engineered,
or invented anything in their entire lives that is worthy of note. What they
have done is mediocre at best. I won't name them, but they just haven't
produced. These are the people who say, "No one has ever bothered me."
These are the same people who - behind my back and behind the backs of those
who have actually produced functional technologies - say, "Well I've never
seen anything that he's produced."
Adams: Can you tell us more about this alien agenda?
Trombly: I know that there's an alien agenda because my father wrote this in
his journals. He said he had discovered that the U.S. government had become
involved in its implementation. He went further to say that this alien
agenda, in his opinion, was contrary to the good of the human species and
the planet.
He believed that a sector of the military/industrial complex was involved in
a program, basically, to transform our atmosphere, which is benign to our
species and other Earth species, into one that is greatly reduced in terms
of its oxygen content.
So this is a force which doesn't have good intentions for us. It is a force
that would gladly exterminate us. And yet human beings act as agents for
this force. The "human" species is exterminating itself, by its own hands.
My father spoke of alien agendas in his most secret thoughts. This was not
something he spoke of in public. He would never have given this interview,
I'll tell you that much.
Adams: What species is this alien force?
Trombly: I can't say, but I can say that the species that are trying to harm
us are a tiny minority of a vast host of alien species. My father knew of a
couple. It wasn't just one, even back then. This sounds very far fetched - I
know it sounds nuts. But I decided if I was going to give an interview for
this particular publication, I wasn't going to pull any punches.
Adams: Many of the people who read this will share your belief system.
Trombly: Well, this is not about a belief system. I don't like belief
systems! This is about reality! We are the ones who are collectively
destroying the womb of the Earth in which our species gestates, in which we
evolve.
There are real terrorists in Washington, and even, I dare say, in the White
House. And we are very rapidly approaching the time when that statement will
be considered criminal. The incident we call 9-11 was a mockery. Now, every
time someone dials 911 they'll think of the evil demon Osama bin Laden who
in fact is someone we helped to create.
Alkhaida was largely financed by the U.S. government. We gave the Taliban
128 million dollars last year to suppress the growth of opium in
Afghanistan. Where do you think that money came from? Where do you think it
went?
Everyone thinks the 9-11 was caused by Osama bin Laden and his cronies.
There's no doubt that some of his money comes from Saudi Arabia, but the
fact is that the U.S. government is the primary source of funding for the
Taliban. Why? Because Dick Cheney and his cohorts want to build an oil
pipeline through Afghanistan.
Adams: What has happened to the free-energy technologies that you've
produced?
Trombly: Every single technology that I have either invented or co-produced
is no longer in my possession. There's one in Arizona that has supposedly
become a national security issue.
A former colleague of mine once went off on his own with a design that he
and I had come up with. He built a device that was very successful - and is
now in a can, and he is a shell of his former self.
Forget about whatever technologies I have had a hand in reducing to
practice. We have heard from very credible sources that these are nothing
compared to the technologies already being produced by certain prime
contractors right here in the United States.
Why is it a national security issue? Why is a generator that generates
several times more output than input a security issue? Why is it that the
American people cannot enjoy what their tax dollars are paying for? Why is
it that we have a government that is willing to deny the American people
access to the very technologies they themselves are secretly producing?
It's not a joke. Our government has produced technologies, with our tax
dollars, that could immediately begin to reverse the damage done by the
irresponsible use of fossil fuels, and they are not allowed to be used.
They continue to pollute this atmosphere, and they continue to reduce the
amount of metabolically available oxygen. Who could possibly benefit from
that? What species do you know of that is actually better off today than,
say, fifty years ago?
What is it that we do when we burn these fuels? We make fire. What is fire?
Fire is a rapid oxidation process that releases heat. The real destroyers of
the equatorial rain forest are forest fires, because of the incredibly poor
husbandry. There's nothing good you can say about what's being done to this
planet!
There are far too many people in the U.S. government and other national
governments who are acting in a way that is completely moronic and
self-destructive. It is not a human agenda! This is what I'm trying to get
you to see. There is this whole other thing happening.
We are exploited by a corporate structure - by the "military/industrial
complex" Dwight Eisenhower warned us against in his farewell address to the
nation. Eisenhower got the term "military/industrial complex" from
Mussolini, who was describing Fascism. These are words you don't want to use
in our society.
At Project Earth we get mail from all over the world, and the one word that
keeps coming up since our last so-called presidential election - about that
debacle, that tragedy - is the word "coup." From the perspective of the vast
majority of the human species, it was a coup. They say this in India, Japan,
South Korea, France, Holland, Spain - everywhere. In spite of the fact that
we never posted an article on our website that said or even suggested that
we had a coup, people write to us and say, "How come the American people
don't realize that they just had a coup?"
Then, following on that coup, we have 9-11. Everybody is terrified, but
people don't want to talk the way I'm talking now. They think it's
self-destructive.
I tell you truly, it is our collective silence that is truly destructive.
The United States of America is a sacred idea. It is a sacred thought-form.
What was America to the people who risked and frequently lost their lives to
create it? It was the New Jerusalem. The spiritual foundation of the United
States of America is an absolute necessity of our spiritual dimension. It
was founded on the basis of the absolute need of the human spirit for
freedom.
But freedom brings with it great responsibility and demands great
intelligence.
We do not want to live in hell, but we are creating hell for ourselves. We
are tormenting each other and ourselves. We're doing these things as if we
have no choice. We are truly brainwashed.
The real ultimate cult that's going on in America is this one of jingoistic,
flag-waving, unquestioning patriotism. We can get ourselves all hyped up on
Zoloft, and that still doesn't change the fact that we as a nation have lost
an incredible amount of prestige and trust because of what happened in 2000.
No matter how much money we put into the military budget, we will not be
able to restore that trust in our own people or in the rest of the world
until, through grace or the incarnation of the Divine Process, our democracy
is resurrected from its present contrived state. It is a travesty.
When Dick Cheney refuses to turn over documents to investigators, he gives
comfort to our enemies. Truly dangerous and deranged people in truly
difficult countries like Pakistan cite the actions of our corrupt public
officials as justification for their actions.
If we say to the world that we represent Freedom and Democracy, then by God
we have an obligation to be Free and Democratic.
In the meantime, the world laughs, because perfectly capable intelligence
officers in the United States are oppressed for the sake of short-term
political agendas.
The Central Intelligence Agency attempted to warn the White House before
September 11. The entire affair was handled with what can only be called
incompetence. While three-letter agencies spent our tax dollars listening to
my calls, true terrorists were going to flight. And in spite of over an
18-minute warning crash, a second full-size passenger jet went into the
World Trade Center.
Even so, we are all supposed to fall into line and cheer.
Once, in 1986, I was introduced to a man in Toronto, Canada, who turned out
to be a major Soviet technology spy. When he offered me a lot of money and a
lot of benefits if I would turn over mechanical drawings for an electrical
generating technology I had co-invented, I told that agent to go screw
himself. I told him I was under a gag order, and that I would not violate
that order.
He responded by saying, "What loyalty do you owe to your country? They have
done nothing to help you or your work. If you cooperate with us we will
appreciate you and take good care of you and your family. Three hundred
million people will benefit from your technology. Who cares if a shaft is
made in Leningrad or if assembly occurs near Moscow?"
Once again, I told him to go screw himself, to go back to the totalitarian
hell that he came from - and then I got the hell out of his office.
In September of 1986, I turned this man in to the FBI - and as a
consequence, I ended up under investigation myself!
In February of 1987, the counter-intelligence unit of the FBI contacted me.
During my second so-called "interview," one of the special agents who
interviewed me was Robert Hanson, now known as a famous spy for the former
Soviet Union.
Hanson interviewed me about whether or not I was a spy. But he knew I wasn't
a spy, because he was!
It's not just the U.S. government that's suppressing all this stuff, it's
the whole theater of this species. The "human" species has rarely
demonstrated qualities that say that it should be maintained or can be
sustained.
This species has never acted in a way that is consistently to its own
benefit. For thousands of years, this species has acted in a manner that can
only be described as both sadistic and masochistic, and on a planetary
scale. It has not acted intelligently.
At the same time, there is no decision to change, because the vast majority
of the human species don't even realize that we have a choice to do that.
They don't realize that we have the choice live intelligently. They don't
even know or what that would entail.
My protests to the "powers above" are consistently related to this central
fact: "I know there's a choice, you know there's a choice, but the general
population on this planet has no clue that there's a choice. We can choose
to live in a completely abundant and pollution-free environment. We can make
that choice and have more abundance, and not less abundance. We can stop
spending money for fuel. The capital expenditure for fuel could be
completely eliminated. That would free up trillions of dollars annually,
globally, from the world budget, from the planetary budget."
If you want to know why I got involved in this technology, it's because we
have a way to generate almost boundless levels of electrical power without
any pollution or fuel, without even the need for solar panels or wind power.
It's ridiculous that I am installing solar panels in my home, when I have
spent the last 23 years of my life in the field of ZP Fluctuation Technology
research and development and have one more than one occasion successfully
demonstrated it along with colleagues who have also learned the same hard
lessons that I have.
Adams: Can we still restore this planet?
Trombly: We can if we act with great clarity and great speed. No obstacle
could stand in our path.
We could even reclaim the Sahara Desert. It didn't used to be a desert. It
was destroyed by people who cut down the forest and overgrazed the
grasslands that were once there. Now the same thing is happening in Brazil,
Indonesia, China and South East Asia.
These forests and grasslands are like your skin. What does the skin do? It
keeps us from becoming dehydrated. When a person gets third-degree burns,
one of the leading causes of death is dehydration. The same thing is true of
the forests and grasslands.
It's about maintaining that tissue and understanding that it is very
vulnerable. These membranes are being taken away.
We can also reclaim the desert that is forming in the northeastern corner of
Brazil, where there was rainforest a hundred years ago. The Brazilian desert
exists because the Brazilian people won't stop cutting down their own trees.
I say this very bluntly. If the Brazilian people want to demonstrate that
they have some intelligence, then they'll stop cutting down the rainforest,
which is the equatorial life support of our planet.
If the United Nations and if the American government want to demonstrate
their intelligence, then they will suggest that we should give credits to
these countries for their oxygen production.
We can reclaim the deserts by these new technologies, by taking the water
out of the oceans and using it on the desert.
Where you run into the logjam, over and over with all these issues, is the
question of energy.
How can we heal the ozone layer? It's going to take a tremendous amount of
energy to do that. We have to replenish the oxygen that's not getting into
the stratosphere.
One of the fundamental points that I try to make is about chlorine. It is a
molecular demon once it gets into the ozone layer. One chlorine ion can
interfere with the production of 100,000 molecules of ozone. So we have to
eliminate as much free chlorine and bromine as possible.
But even if we entirely eliminated chlorine and bromine production, that
would still not be enough to heal the stratospheric ozone layer.
Another significant cause of ozone depletion, one that is often overlooked,
is the reduction in the amount of oxygen that should be transported into the
stratosphere over the equatorial rainforests. Project Earth has been trying
to educate people to this fact since the mid-eighties. The oxygen source has
literally been cut off by deforestation. But we can heal that by
reintroducing a tremendous amount of oxygen up there, and replanting the
forest down here, on Earth.
It will take energy. Lots of it.
Adams: Can you describe how your life has been endangered because of your
perspectives on free energy?
Trombly: If I had described my life to you since 1980, it would be a long,
long story, and it would sound like a bad spy novel.
I've had a number of attempts on my life through really serious poisonings.
My wife has had to revive me and give me CPR.
So we've had a whole nightmare component to our life. But we don't live in a
nightmare at all. It's quite the opposite.
However, I must say that it has been almost unimaginable at times.
Once, in 1988, I was visited by a couple of scientists at my home in
Colorado. One of them was Bob Dratch, a man who has done a lot of work in
creating microwave detection equipment, which is widely used by the
Department of Defense.
Basically, I was standing in my office, which was a large room, 27 feet
long, and Bob Dratch was shaking change in his pocket, to demonstrate that
his very sensitive microwave detector could pick up the signal this jingling
generated. The signal would appear on the meter and the printout.
I pointed the horn of the device at Dratch to measure the effect. And then,
as I pointed the horn away, I kept my finger on the trigger and happened to
point it out the window of my office. To our surprise, the alarm went off on
the machine! The red light went on, and the meter peaked.
My office was being microwaved!
We walked into my back yard and found the place where the signals were being
broadcast. It was right behind my house, in a little forest, right next to
an engineering company that is well known for making satellite antennas.
We clipped the cable to the antenna that was broadcasting microwaves at my
house, and I called the FCC in Denver and I said told them that this was
illegal and I wanted it stopped now. I said, "Stop microwaving me." I
already had cancer.
Within three weeks, this engineering company was totally gone. I assume they
themselves had something to do with the broadcast, or they wouldn't have
left so suddenly.
So dozens of people had to relocate to Kansas, or whereever.
But why were they trying to kill this body? We are perplexed at times by the
strange modus operandi of this group.
The world is not going around very well right now, because people aren't
loving. When people love, they become geniuses. Intelligence isn't about
thinking, it's about feeling. I don't care how many times the force of
darkness, which resists love, has attacked you and made you feel separate.
I don't care how difficult anyone's life has been. I guarantee you, I can
match it. But suffering is finite, it's limited, it's not eternal. You can
transcend suffering through love.
The resurrection we are called to is our resurrection. Once Jesus stood in
front of Lazarus' tomb, and commanded, "Lazarus, come out." And we are told
that Lazarus came out.
That is similar to what is happening right now. Surrounding this planet,
there is a gathering which is inviting the human species into a new
dimension. They are saying, "Lazarus come out, come out of your subjective
tomb and out of your corruption. Come out of your doubt of God and out of
your doubt of Love. In the midst of Infinity and Eternity, We command you."
Now, in this moment, we must come out and ask for help. When we can ask for
help, we get it.
People don't understand that you become realized by incarnating love. We
live only as expressions of love, in eternity. The only thing that is
eternal is Love. Love as the presence of consciousness is eternal and
infinite.
Time and space are subsets of eternity and infinity. Space and time are
subjective states, and they have nothing to do with limiting the ultimate
reality of consciousness, not even a little bit. They have to do with the
gnarled subjective states of the contracted world.
Scientists talk about the accelerating expansion of the universe, but it's
not that, it's the unremitting transformation of the universe that's
happening, the inescapable transformation of the universe.
You don't have a choice about it this time. It isn't the same as it was two
thousand years ago. We are in the midst of the time of the resurrection. It
involves you and me and everyone on this planet, I don't care who they are.
There will be miracles everywhere. The most powerful thing is love. The
whole astrophysical community is now acknowledging this power, but they call
it the "dark energy." They give it this Darth Vader quality, because they
don't know how to relate to the Light. It is the contraction of form and the
denial of the Infinite Divine that causes the appearance of darkness.
Adams: How long has there been a conspiracy to prevent the development of
free energy?
Well, if you are referring to the technological side of things, I guess you
could say it started with Nikola Tesla. (Although the crucifixion was really
an attempt to stop Free energy as well.)
Nikola Tesla was given the vision of infinite electrical power, without
fuel, in the 1880s. He demonstrated it in 1886 and 1889, and then throughout
the 1890s. He tried to give this gift, but the fossil fuel boys decided he
couldn't give it. The fossil fuel boys decided that maybe they could make
use of him, so they didn't kill him right away. They killed Tesla in 1943.
One of the detectives approached me in 1981, at a conference. This man told
me that Tesla had been murdered. So I guess you could say that it all began
right there. When I was a kid in school, nobody knew about Tesla. Tesla was
the father of alternating current electricity. Tesla said he was inspired by
aliens, beings from other dimensions. He was anathematized because he
refused to kowtow; he refused to attend the same temple that the others
worshipped in.
Adams: How can we make free energy available to the planet?
Trombly: There is no such thing as free energy without enlightenment and
liberation. The technologies point to free energy. We are the technology. We
are the free energy.
Great yogis like Sri Babaji demonstrate this. Yogananda talked about him. He
was the physical demonstration of free energy. He was the physical
demonstration of what the Tibetans called the Rainbow Body. He was
transparent and transfigured in God realization, the realization of the
Buddha Nature.
There are alien cultures and cultures in other universes who happen to be
attentive to the events on this planet because this is one of the last
archetypal moments. This will not continue anymore. This entire kind of
universe is obsolete and will not occur again, because it would be masochism
and sadism to allow it to be perpetuated.
There's a transformation that is occurring. It is about the liberation of
all the energy that has been bound up in all of these worlds that are
subject to corruption. That is the real physics. This is what is really
important.
In the meantime, by understanding that this is true, we can tap into a field
that we call Zero Point Vacuum Fluctuation or the quantum ether, and we can
generate electrical power. Electrical power exists in complete abundance,
without any capital cost for fuel.
Solar technology is so very expensive. We have 108 solar panels in our two
facilities on Maui and it takes up a great deal of space. I would love to
have ZP Technology here, but the fact of the matter is, if I had that
working right now, this place would become a target.
The other side of this story is always the same thing. Just when Light
appears on this planet, the subjective forces of darkness manifest with
great tenacity. This government was overthrown and nobody knows anything
about it. People are silent about it.
On the cover of Newsweek, on September 11, was an article about the secret
vote that made Bush president. The article was about a conspiracy in the
Supreme Court. Newsweek at that time was willing to challenge the Supreme
Court. The Executive Branch of the United States government was about to
fall, because it was going to be exposed.
But then the planes hit the World Trade Center.
If Al Gore had been elected, I know the man well enough to know that we
would have been in a different economy after four years. We would've begun
to implement these technologies.
The United States government has, right now, the technology to eliminate the
energy crisis. This consoling gesture that George Bush made the other day,
about developing hydrogen fuel-cell technology, is just a carrot that he's
dangling before the American people.
Now there are military people who have come forward and are talking about
the presence of aliens and alien technology on this planet. They are even
talking about the fact that we are making our own flying saucers. This
Disclosure Project is extremely important for people to know about (see
Secrets from the Stars elsewhere in this issue).
We could be having the greatest economic boom in the history of history. We
could actually do that. The technology exists. As early as the 1970s, Henry
Kissinger, George Bush, Richard Nixon - all kinds of these guys - knew about
this physics. But the downside is that we are on the brink of oblivion.
Parents are paying all this money to educate their children into the lie of
physics instead of the truth of physics. Meanwhile, they are taking Prozac.
We have legalized the anesthetization of our species. Depression is
appropriate.
Adams: What is the purpose of your organization, Project Earth.
Trombly: The original foundation of Project Earth was to reveal to the human
species the actual condition of our planet. We're not being told the truth
about it. For the most part, the scientific community doesn't know the truth
and has been so disempowered by their so-called education that they've lost
vision.
Vision is the only thing that will save us. You have to be able to see where
you're going.
The agreement that I made with the Divine is one that Bucky and I talked
about. We would never just illuminate the problem, we would always offer a
solution. If we talked about an energy crisis, we would talk about it only
in the context of the fact that there is no energy crisis.
Electrical power is already abundantly available, pollution free. We like
electricity. We can power our cars and flying saucers with infinite
electrical power. We could have so much fun that living on earth wouldn't be
a drag, but would be really great.
Your eyes would be so open that you would walk out the door and you wouldn't
see the smog in Los Angeles, but you'd see the clear, sacred air.
Project Earth is not just about communicating the problems. It's about the
transformation of humanity.
Adam Trombly, Director of Project Earth, is an internationally acknowledged
expert in the fields of Physics, Atmospheric Dynamics, Geophysics, Rotating
and Resonating Electromagnetic Systems, and Environmental Global Modeling.
Taking the advice of his friend and mentor R. Buckminster Fuller, Adam has
maintained a "synergistic, global view" within a multi-disciplinary
scientific background. From this perspective, Adam offers unique insights
into the changes humankind has effected on our environment, and the
adjustments our future requires of us.
For further information about Project Earth, please visit
http://www.ProjectEarth.com.
Trombly and Celeste Adams spoke on January 21, 2002.
"a forward to Dr. Vader from my sister Leah" :-)
"...on the email list of Dr. Jack Sarfatti..."
What happened to Dan Smith that emails to his address are bouncing recently?
Below could have been forwarded as an "I told you so" from Ira Einhorn? :-)
David Corn is the Washington editor of The Nation:
The Loyal Opposition:
The 9/11 X-Files
E-Conspiracy Theories Deserve To Be Debunked
"Perhaps there's a Pentagon or CIA office that churns out this material. Its
mission: distract people from the real wrongdoing."
[excerpts from parts of forwarded email below:]
"1. CIA links to WTC bombing:
A day or two after the WTC attack, I got an email from a friend of mine, a
Mr. Dan Smith, who is a member of a group called the Aviary. He informed me
and a rather large group of individuals on the email list of Dr. Jack
Sarfatti (whom as you may know was the physicist who was the advisor to
Pres. Ronald Raegan and one of the individuals who convinced him of the need
of the Star Wars project) of the following: that on the morning of WTC he
had gotten a phone call from one of the other Aviary members to immediately
come to a meeting. At the meeting the WTC attack was discussed, wherein he
was told that it had been a 'crypto-Ghandian' attack (i.e a pre-emptive
strike) by insiders within the intelligence community. A few days later --
if I recall correctly -- he stated that these individuals were now in a bit
of a dillema in that they now had a "PR" problem. I imagine the PR problem
was 'how do we tell the American people?" This is common knowledge for a
large group of people, even many in the mainstream media. However, nobody
seems willing to investigate the issue, since -- as you can imagine -- it is
quite delicate! Maybe you would want to!"
"Also you may wish to read the statement by
Special Forces Sgt. Mr. Stan Goff, regarding his views as to the WTC
bombings -- he says it was 'insiders' within the intelligence community and
his evidence to that is pretty convincing"
"Why won't any journalist ask President Bush whether he knew what he was
watching?"
------
"No, the Toronto Star did not confirm Vreeland's story. The Canadian court
system did. And the fact that he wrote a warning of the 9-11 attacks a month
before they happened and that it was sealed away from his access by his
jailers who admit that no one else had custody is a shameful and
incriminating fact that not even your sophistry can gloss over. Rational
people will want to know how this man knew of the attacks and why the US
government and The Nation are trying so hard to kill this story."
"I am surprised that you did
not recall that during Iran-Contra a number of well documented intelligence
sources were controlled by their respective agencies through the use of
criminal charges connected to their areas of expertise"
"During Vreeland's extradition hearings Canadian
authorities have acknowledged, under oath, that they had sole possession of
the sealed letter for one month prior to the attacks."
"All of this was accurately reported by me in a From The Wilderness story
dated January 25th and available on my web site at www.copvcia.com. Either
you did not have the thoroughness to read the story or your investigative
abilities are severely impaired. But then you state only that the CIA has
used drug dealers and avoid the full (and well documented) truth that they
have dealt drugs directly for decades."
------"UFO/ET-Disclosure Policy Splits Covert Network"
From: "Lara Johnstone" <flackotar@...>
To: <flackotar@...>
Subject: Copy of Response to 'Nation' criticism of 'From the Wilderness
Publications'
Date: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 11:28 AM
George East, Cape
Republic of South Africa
5 March 2002
Dear Mr. Corn (dcorn@...)
Nation Magazine
CC: Pres. Bush, Pres. Mbeki, CIA, APFN, Hon. Mr. Kucinich (D-OH),
www.defendamerica.mil website, various media, Mr. Michael Ruppert, etc.
RE: Your letter to Mr. Michael Ruppert, editor of "From the Wilderness
Publications"
I noticed the letter you wrote to Mr. Ruppert on his website:
www.copvcia.com and your criticisms of his statements. I do not know you,
but I do know Mr. Ruppert, which naturally makes me a little biased. I am
not writing to tell you that you are wrong, simply to tell you that from
what I know of Mr. Ruppert -- he is one of the most uncompromising people
when it comes to printing the truth, that I know. He is -- sometimes in my
opinion -- obsessed with checking his sources, with making sure he has more
than one source, and more than anything if he ever finds that he has made
even a small error, it is immediately printed as a correction in his
newsletter. The man's integrity is beyond reproach. He also does not care
much for partisanship between exposing the wrongs of whichever party or
whomever. His focus is -- the truth -- as much as he is able!
If you have any evidence as to any of what he has said to be incorrect, I am
sure he would be only too happy to take a look at it. But what he says and
what he prints he meticulously researches. Naturally anyone can make a
mistake or get a source that is not reliable, and I have no doubt that Mr.
Ruppert will be the first person to re-evaluate his work, IF YOU PROVIDE HIM
WITH EVIDENCE. However most of your letter to him does not quote
individuals, or any evidence, and your allegations to him about Mr. Vreeland
clearly show that you probably did not read his article -- which if you did,
you would have noted that his 'evidence' came from court documents, as well
as the phone call to the Pentagon.
I don't like to speculate as to people's intentions, however, your lack of
professionalism as a journalist writing to denounce another journalist (who
has spent 21 years investigating these issues, and gone through huge
hardships because of his lack of willingness to 'bend the rules' and get
hired by some news agency who would not allow him to print all that he knows
and has evidence for) seems to have strange or a little insidious motives.
Are you jealous of Mr. Ruppert? Or is the Nation attempting an intentional
disinformation and smear campaign against Mr. Ruppert? Surely if you have an
issue with any of his statements, then the professional thing to do -- as a
journalist -- is to address the particular claims that you are questioning
-- not to simply write a vague opinion piece, which itself is seriously
lacking in fact? I apologize if I am incorrect in my assumptions to your
motive. I would, however, like to know what your motive is for the letter
that you did write to him -- if you don't mind sharing it with me.
Your actions remind me of the response by the New York Times at the time of
the San Jose Mercury's articles by Gary Webb. Is the Nation upset that your
journalists do not have the dedication and courage that Mr. Ruppert has to
print the truth, as he has evidence for?
I hope you will reconsider your position and reread your letter again, and
if you do have serious factual criticisms of Mr. Rupperts work to share it
with him. I have no doubt he will look at any evidence you may have. Such is
the man that he is.
Also, considering that you seem to have so much time on your hands, that you
are able to write long letters of complaint (lacking fact) to a journalist
such as Mr. Ruppert who spends sometimes upto 16 or 18 hours a day working,
writing, researching and investigating. Here are some other coverup ideas
your magazine may wish to take a look at.
WTC, Pres. Bush etc:
You may wish to be aware that there are two statements where President
George Bush -- in an answer to a 5 year and an 8 year olds questions --
actually admits that he saw the first plane hit the tower BEFORE he entered
the classroom. As you may be aware -- if that was the case -- then he had to
be watching the first plane hit the WTC tower LIVE. I don't imagine he was
watching AL JAZEERA -- do you? Probably CNN -- they are the only mainstream
television station that uses military satellites. President Bush only says
that he saw the first plane hit the building -- what is not clear is whether
he knew that he was watching an actual terrorist plot, or whether he thought
it was a movie. And naturally if he was watching it LIVE, people at CNN (if
that is the television channel he was watching) knew what they were
watching, and other questions need to be asked? If they were watching it
live, why did they not do anything about it? Allegedly the FAA notified the
Air Force, and allegedly the Air Force were told to 'stand down'. Allegedly
FEMA were sent upto New York the day before in anticipation of 'some event'?
There are many other such leads, for those who are interested in
investigating the truth. I am not a journalist, but it seems that very few
journalists are willing to ask these questions. Why?
Why won't any journalist ask President Bush whether he knew what he was
watching? Maybe instead of attacking Mr. Ruppert -- you may wish to ask the
White House the details regarding the event.
These statements were made in a town hall meeting in Florida on 4 December
2001, and in San Bernadino County on 5 January 2002. No mainstream media
said much about it except for CNN who reprinted the entire speech of 4
December, except deleted the part where he stated he had seen the first
plane hit the building before he entered the classroom. The person who did
the report on the town hall meeting was White House correspondent Mr. John
King.
The statements used to be on the www.whitehouse.gov website, but I just
searched the site and can't seem to be able to find them. I am not sure if
they have been removed or if I just am not able to find them. I had the
exact URL for both of the town hall meeting statements on my laptop
computer, but it is in 'evidence' that I am currently in an attempt to get
back from the INS, (and have reported to the Office of the Inspector
General) who deported me for my attempts to inform them of various terrorist
related information. Some of the information on my laptop computer includes
the following:
1. CIA links to WTC bombing:
A day or two after the WTC attack, I got an email from a friend of mine, a
Mr. Dan Smith, who is a member of a group called the Aviary. He informed me
and a rather large group of individuals on the email list of Dr. Jack
Sarfatti (whom as you may know was the physicist who was the advisor to
Pres. Ronald Raegan and one of the individuals who convinced him of the need
of the Star Wars project) of the following: that on the morning of WTC he
had gotten a phone call from one of the other Aviary members to immediately
come to a meeting. At the meeting the WTC attack was discussed, wherein he
was told that it had been a 'crypto-Ghandian' attack (i.e a pre-emptive
strike) by insiders within the intelligence community. A few days later --
if I recall correctly -- he stated that these individuals were now in a bit
of a dillema in that they now had a "PR" problem. I imagine the PR problem
was 'how do we tell the American people?" This is common knowledge for a
large group of people, even many in the mainstream media. However, nobody
seems willing to investigate the issue, since -- as you can imagine -- it is
quite delicate! Maybe you would want to!
Who is the Aviary?
From an article by Dr. Richard J. Boyland Ph.D.
"UFO/ET-Disclosure Policy Splits Covert Network"
Since sometime in the 1970's, a small group of individuals with extremely
high security clearances, who were working on various aspects of UFO
research and policy, began to interact unofficially on a regular basis to
pool information. Their objectives were to coordinate data, see the big
picture, analyze the meaning of UFOs and extraterrestrial contact with
Earth, use this knowledge to gain access to additional information on the
hyper secret Majestic-12 (MJ-12, the government's ultimate UFO-information
control and policy group) and gain special influence through their
collective power. This elite group of roughly a dozen individuals working on
national security assignments gave themselves code names, using mostly bird
names. Collectively, they came to be called the "aviary."
Following is a list of reported Aviary members:
BLUE JAY: Dr. Christopher "Kit" Green, MD, Ph.D; Chief, Biomedical Sciences
Department, General Motors, former head of the CIA's UFO files at the "Weird
Desk."
* PELICAN: Ron Pandolfi, CIA Deputy Director for the Division of Science and
Technology and current custodian of UFO files at the "Weird Desk"; may be
involved in the White House initiative to promptly release UFO information
to the public.
* SEA GULL: Bruce Maccabee, Ph.D., research scientist in optical physics and
laser weapons applications at the U.S. Naval Surface Weapons Lab, Maryland;
MUFON physics/photo-interpretive consultant and prolific author of and
consultant expert on selected "leaked" or disinformational UFO cases/topics.
* OWL: Hal Puthoff, physicist with the Institute for Advanced Research in
Austin, Texas, who specializes in Zero-Point Energy, a quantum/resonance
physics phenomenon with reported potential for above-unity ("free") energy.
* PENGUIN: John Alexander, Ph.D. in Death Sciences; Lt. Col. U.S. Army
Intelligence and Security Command, which is undoubtedly the military cover
for the National Security Agency. Col. Alexander is director of the
Non-Lethal Weapons Department, Los Alamos National Laboratory, and has been
reportedly involved in counter-intelligence remote viewing, psychic warfare,
psychotronic and mind-control projects with military/security applications.
* CHICKADEE: Cmdr. C.B. Scott Jones, Ph.D., USN (Ret.), former officer with
the Office of Naval intelligence and other agencies; 30 years service in
U.S. intelligence overseas; involved in government research and development
projects for the Defense Nuclear Agency, Defense Intelligence Agency,
Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, and other organizations; former
aide to Sen. Clairborne Pell, who has had a long-standing interest in UFOs
and the paranormal and has tried to arrange Congressional hearings on UFOs.
* PARROT(?): Jacques Vallee, Ph.D., formerly an astrophysicist with GEPAN,
the French Government's UFO investigative agency, later moved to U.S. as
principal investigator with Defense Department computer network projects;
worked with famed astronomer Dr. J. Allen Hynek who left and denounced the
military's Project Blue Book as a disinformational smokescreen; prolific
author on UFO subject, lately turning to metaphysical explanations for the
phenomenon. [Note: although this may be the consensus of our esteemed
colleague, the erudite Dr. Richard J. Boylan, Ph.D., we at the Lodge retain
the Utmost Respect for our Dear Brother Jacques and his Delightfully
Iconoclastic and Wonderfully Heretical synthesis. -B:.B:.]
* CHICKEN LITTLE: Dan Smith, civilian UFO research/volunteer liaison among
sources within the Central Intelligence Agency, the Congressional
Intelligence Committees and civilian UFO researchers. Smith continually
exchanges information and networks with key UFO researchers, serves as their
interlocutor and shares their findings and his own with his sources at the
CIA and on Capitol Hill. Undoubtedly, other "assets" and low- profile
intermediaries of the Aviary operate for the UFO- interest community as its
ears and surrogate mouthpieces among the general public.
* CONDOR: Capt. Bob Collins, USAF (Ret.); Special Agent, Air Force Office of
Special Investigations, engaged in UFO-related intelligence operations,
reportedly appeared clandestinely on the 1988 Kodak-produced network
television disinformation program "UFO Cover-Up Live"
* BUZZARD(?): Gordon Novell, reportedly a free-lance man, and more recently
reportedly involved in New (Zero Point) Energy schemes, and tied to Bob
Bigelow, a shadowy Las Vegas casinos operator who reportedly is
investigating alleged ET energy technology and titanium aluminide mettalurgy
for their investment potential.
* FALCON; Sgt. Richard "Dick" Doty, USAF (Ret.); Special Agent, Air Force
Office of Special Investigations; reported to have engaged in UFO
disinformation projects, including reportedly hoaxing TV producer Linda Howe
concerning availability of a tape showing a UFO landing at Holloman Air
Force Base, N.M. and allegedly waging psychological warfare on Albuquerque
defense electronic contractor Paul Bennewitz.
* HARRIER(?): Dale Graff, UFO-related technology specialist [alleged by
Smith, Guiley, etc. to be a genuine DIA "Dark Side" bad-boy -B:.B:.]
reported by Dan Smith (cf. infra) to be head of the "military" UFO Working
Group at Los Alamos National Laboratory; rumored to be involved in
psychotronic and ESP programs at Los Alamos; formerly was contracts overseer
for the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) at Wright-Patterson Air Force
Base; then was chief of the DIA's Defense Technology/Special Programs
department, before reportedly being fired by the DIA. Currently Graff is
reported to be in contact with the human designate who communicates with an
extraterrestrial residing near Washington, DC in a subterranean facility.
* NIGHTINGALE(?): Jack Verona, shadowy liaison between Capitol Hill and Los
Alamos National Laboratory, before having recently 'disappeared'; reportedly
Dale Graff's supervisor: formerly involved in Project Sleeping Beauty, which
researched ways to disable enemy "target" personnel using directed
precise-frequency radiated electromagnetic-energy fields. (According to Dan
Smith, NIGHTINGALE is not Jack Verona, but rather may be George Wingfield, a
British UFO researcher, who has established a reputation as a careful
reporter of crop circle formations, UFO information, and, most recently, the
disappearance in 1993 of a U.S. carrier destroyer during NATO sea exercises,
during which a number of member countries' ships patrolled to find reported
huge carrier-sized Unidentified Submerged Objects (USOs), which raced
underwater at astounding speeds. Arguing against Mr.Wingfield being
NIGHTINGALE is the fact that after Wingfield disclosed the U.S. destroyer's
disappearance at a Nevada UFO Congress in December, 1994, he was beat up
outside the conference hall by two goons and told to shut up his mouth.)
* HAWK: Ernie Kellerstrauss, security cleared for UFO information; worked at
Wright-Patterson AFB in the 1970s and reportedly lived with an
extraterrestrial for a while -- reported to have worked with Dale Graff
(*HARRIER*?) and Captain Bob Collins (CONDOR), Air Force Intelligence, to
supply UFO information to USAF/AFOSI disinformation operative/"UFOlogist"
William Moore.
* WOODPECKER(?): Jaime Shandera, a small-time Hollywood film producer, who
reportedly is associated with William Moore. Shandera alleged that he had
mysteriously received film containing the "MJ-12 documents" at his door one
day from source(s) unknown. (Moore is considered by some to be the author of
the MJ-12 disinformation papers.) Shandera was featured on the 1989 Kodak
Television UFO documentary, 'UFO Cover-Up Live'. Shandera is reported to be,
along with Scott Jones and Dan Smith, one of the theologically-oriented and
pro-UFO-disclosure "Progressives" among the Aviary.
2. Oklahoma City Bombing Coverup:
Also, you may be aware (or not) that the Oklahoma City Bombing had more than
two participants (i.e. McVeigh and Nichols). Mr. McVeigh's commanding
officer from the United States Special Forces was also involved (and a whole
host of others) -- he admits to being John Doe #3. He was told by the Army
to 'dissapear' after the bombing. Timothy McVeigh was paid $5 million to
park the Ryder truck, and if caught to 'take the rap'. In exchange he would
not be executed, but would be given a new identity. He was not executed, he
is alive and well, and was seen by his Commanding Officer -- a friend of
mine -- not long after the 4th of July. I have shared this information with
numerous media, as well as the FBI, CIA, White House, Army Intelligence,
INS, and not one of their agencies were interested in questioning me
further! This information was also confirmed for me, by Mr. Steve West, as a
representative of Governor Gray Davis. Governor Davis' office told me that
they are NOT going to do anything about it. It is a matter that is not going
to be dealt with at "this level", said Mr. West. I imagine he meant it could
only be dealt with at the federal or Presidential level. Considering that
both President Clinton and President Bush gave Mr. McVeigh an unconditional
pardon -- that could be why Governor Davis did not wish to get involved in
the matter. But that is my speculation. I did not ask him why they were not
going to do anything about it. Maybe you would like to?
One of the most comprehensive websites I have seen on the Oklahoma City
Bombing coverup is at American Patriot Friends Network: Oklahoma Bombing
City Coverup, which is run by an ex-Navy Officer named Ken Vardon -- an
incredible guy! It is at: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/okc_coverup.htm
So, it seems that there are more than enough cover ups for journalists to
work on, if they so wish, without having to be attacking each other.
My friend -- John Doe #3 -- told me that if the truth came out about OKC, it
would lead eventually to those responsible for the assassination of
President John. F. Kennedy! Also you may wish to read the statement by
Special Forces Sgt. Mr. Stan Goff, regarding his views as to the WTC
bombings -- he says it was 'insiders' within the intelligence community and
his evidence to that is pretty convincing. You can read his statements at
www.narconews.com
Feel free to email me if you have any questions or complaints regarding my
email to your office.
Sincerely,
Lara Johnstone (Johnson)
PS. Have you seen Mr. Rupperts video: TRUTH & LIES ABOUT 9/11: FEATURING
SPECIAL APPEARANCES BY: Peter Dale Scott, Ph.D. (U.C. Berkeley); Former
Assistant HUD Secretary Catherine Austin Fitts; John Metzger, Ph.D.,
Michigan State University; The Hon. Cynthia McKinney (D), Georgia; The Hon.
Barbara Lee (D), CA; and the Hon. Ron Paul (R), TX.? I have been told it is
excellent and am hoping to get my own copy to show in South Africa as soon
as I can raise the money!
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From: http://www.copvcia.com/free/ww3/030402_cornreply.html
Email Mr. Corn and let him know what you think: dcorn@...
Dear Mr. Corn:
I read with great amusement your ill-supported attack on my work and was
surprised that, for a man of your supposed intellectual prowess, you had
such a blatant disregard for facts that you so incorrectly reported. Please
refer to the underlined passages of your missive below and I will show you
just where you have erred.
Your criticisms focus on the case of Delmert "Mike" Vreeland, a US Navy
intelligence officer imprisoned in Canada who, by admission -- in court --
of Canadian authorities, wrote an accurate warning of the September 11th
attacks. That warning, which is now an official part of the court record in
Canada, was placed into the sole custody of Canadian jailers on either
August 11 or 12th, a month before the attacks. A copy of it (obtained
directly from court records) is available on my web site at:
http://www.copvcia.com/free/ww3/01_28_02_vreeland.jpg.
The stamp admitting the document into evidence is clearly visible in the
upper right hand corner of the document. Therefore the document itself is a
bona fide source. During Vreeland's extradition hearings Canadian
authorities have acknowledged, under oath, that they had sole possession of
the sealed letter for one month prior to the attacks.
All of this was accurately reported by me in a From The Wilderness story
dated January 25th and available on my web site at www.copvcia.com. Either
you did not have the thoroughness to read the story or your investigative
abilities are severely impaired. But then you state only that the CIA has
used drug dealers and avoid the full (and well documented) truth that they
have dealt drugs directly for decades. I will be happy to debate you on this
one too, but I doubt if you'll accept the challenge.
In addition, you attempt to discredit Vreeland by innuendo. You state that
he is in jail on fraud charges. True enough, but did you also mention the
fact that it was his own credit card? For a man such as yourself, with such
great expertise on the CIA, who was Ted Shackley's chosen biographer (that
should be enough to discredit you right there), I am surprised that you did
not recall that during Iran-Contra a number of well documented intelligence
sources were controlled by their respective agencies through the use of
criminal charges connected to their areas of expertise. Vreeland had a per
diem of $19,000; ergo he was controlled through a fraud charge. Similar
victims during Iran-Contra included Scott Weekly (weapons), Steve Carr
(drugs), Jack Terrell (weapons), Bo Gritz (passport), Scott Barnes (fraud)
and Al Martin (fraud). There are others. While many of these men, to this
day, have questionable reputations, it is beyond doubt, as established by
official records, that they were intelligence operatives.
In addition, I have hired a Toronto correspondent who sits in on every court
date as "Mike" Vreeland fights extradition to the US and certain death. I am
traveling (again) to Toronto next week to meet both with Vreeland and his
attorneys. It will not be the first time that I have been there or sat in on
his court proceedings. Oh, yes, and you also forgot to mention that, in a
call placed on a speaker phone from open court, a Pentagon operator
confirmed Vreeland's Rank and office assignment at the Pentagon, This is a
part of the court record too.
No, the Toronto Star did not confirm Vreeland's story. The Canadian court
system did. And the fact that he wrote a warning of the 9-11 attacks a month
before they happened and that it was sealed away from his access by his
jailers who admit that no one else had custody is a shameful and
incriminating fact that not even your sophistry can gloss over. Rational
people will want to know how this man knew of the attacks and why the US
government and The Nation are trying so hard to kill this story.
No, you will not get $1,000 from me. The facts are good. The story is good.
My analysis is good and it is left for The Nation's readers to wonder whose
interests you really serve. Your feeble attack reminds of a quote from
Gandhi, "First they ignore you. Then they attack you. Then you win."
Let's see if The Nation will have the integrity to print my letter.
Michael C. Ruppert
Publisher/Editor
"From The Wilderness"
www.copvcia.com
-----------------------
The Loyal Opposition:
The 9/11 X-Files
E-Conspiracy Theories Deserve To Be Debunked
David Corn is the Washington editor of The Nation. His first novel, Deep
Background, a political thriller, was published recently by St. Martin's
Press.
Please stop sending me those e-mails. You know who are. And you know what
e-mails I mean.... Okay, I'll spell it out -- those forwarded e-mails
suggesting, or flat-out stating, the CIA and the U.S. government were
somehow involved in the horrific September 11 attacks.
There are e-mails about a fellow imprisoned in Canada who claims to be a
former U.S. intelligence office and who supposedly passed advance warning of
the attack to jail guards in mid-August. There are e-mails, citing an
Italian newspaper, reporting that last July Osama bin Laden was treated for
kidney disease at the American hospital in Dubai and met with a CIA
official. There are the e-mails, referring to a book published in France,
that note the attacks came a month after Bush administration officials, who
were negotiating an oil deal with the Taliban, told the Afghans "either you
accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of
bombs."
Get the hint? Washington either did nothing to stop the September 11 attacks
or plotted the assaults so a justifiable war could then be waged against
Afghanistan to benefit Big Oil. One e-mail I keep receiving is a timeline of
so-called suspicious events that "establishes CIA foreknowledge of [the
September 11 attacks] and strongly suggests that there was criminal
complicity on the part of the U.S. government in their execution."
I won't argue that the U.S. government does not engage in brutal, murderous
skulduggery from time to time. But the notion that the U.S. government
either detected the attacks but allowed them to occur, or, worse, conspired
to kill thousands of Americans to launch a war-for-oil in Afghanistan is
absurd. Still, each week e-mails passing on such tripe arrive. This crap is
probably not worth a rational rebuttal, but I'm irritated enough to try.
It's a mug's game to refute individual pieces of conspiracy theories. Who
can really know if anything that bizarre happened at a Dubai hospital? As
for the man jailed in Canada, he was being held on a credit card fraud
charge, and the only source for the story about his warning was his own
word. The judge in his case said, "There is no independent evidence to
support his colossal allegations." But a conspiracy-monger can reply,
"wouldn't you expect the government and its friends in Canada to say that?"
So let's start with a broad question: would U.S. officials be capable of
such a foul deed? Capable -- as in able to pull it off and willing to do so.
Simply put, the spies and special agents are not good enough, evil enough,
or gutsy enough to mount this operation. That conclusion is based partly on,
dare I say it, common sense, but also on years spent covering national
security matters. (For a book I wrote on the CIA, I interviewed over 100 CIA
officials and employees.)
Anyone with the most basic understanding of how government functions
realizes that the national security bureaucracies of Washington do not work
well together.
Not good enough: Such a plot -- to execute the simultaneous destruction of
the two towers, a piece of the Pentagon, and four airplanes and make it
appear as if it all was done by another party -- is far beyond the skill
level of U.S. intelligence. It would require dozens (or scores or hundreds)
of individuals to attempt such a scheme. They would have to work together,
and trust one another not to blow their part or reveal the conspiracy. They
would hail from an assortment of agencies (CIA, FBI, INS, Customs, State,
FAA, NTSB, DOD, etc.). Yet anyone with the most basic understanding of how
government functions (or, does not function) realizes that the various
bureaucracies of Washington -- particularly those of the national security
"community" -- do not work well together.
Even covering up advance knowledge would require an extensive plot. If there
truly had been intelligence reports predicting the 9/11 attacks, these
reports would have circulated through intelligence and policy-making circles
before the folks at the top decided to smother them for geopolitical gain.
That would make for a unwieldy conspiracy of silence. And in either scenario
-- planning the attacks or permitting them to occur -- everyone who
participated in the conspiracy would have to be freakin' sure that all the
other plotters would stay quiet.
Not evil enough: This is as foul as it gets -- to kill thousands of
Americans, including Pentagon employees, to help out oil companies. (The
sacrificial lambs could have included White House staff or members of
Congress, had the fourth plane not crashed in Pennsylvania.) This is a
Hollywood-level of dastardliness, James Bond (or Dr. Evil) material. Are
there enough people of such a bent in all those agencies? That's doubtful.
CIA officers and American officials have been evildoers. They have supported
death squads and made use of drug dealers overseas. They have assisted
torturers, disseminated assassination manuals, sold weapons to
terrorist-friendly governments, undermined democratically-elected
governments, and aided dictators who murder and maim. They have covered up
reports of massacres and human rights abuses. They have plotted to kill
foreign leaders. These were horrendous activities, but, in most instances,
the perps justified these deeds with Cold War imperatives (perverted, as
they were). And, to make the justification easier, the victims were people
overseas.
Justifying the murder of thousands of Americans to help ExxonMobil would
require U.S. officials to engage in a different kind of detachment and an
even more profound break with decency and moral norms. I recall interviewing
one former CIA official who helped manage a division that ran the sort of
actions listed above, and I asked him whether the CIA had considered
"permanently neutralizing" a former CIA man who had revealed operations and
the identities of CIA officers. Kill an American citizen? he replied, as if
I were crazy to ask. No, no, he added, we could never do that. Yes, in the
spy-world some things were beyond the pale. And, he explained, it would be
far too perilous, for getting caught in that type of nasty business could
threaten your career. Which brings us to....
Not gutsy enough: Think of the danger -- the potential danger to the
plotters. What if their plan were uncovered before or, worse, after the
fact? Who's going to risk being associated with the most infamous crime in
U.S. history? At the start of such a conspiracy, no one could be certain it
would work and remain a secret. CIA people -- and those in other government
agencies -- do care about their careers. Would George W. Bush take the
chance of being branded the most evil president of all time by countenancing
such wrongdoing? Oil may be in his blood, but would he place the oil
industry's interests ahead of his own? (He sure said sayonara to Kenneth Lay
and Enron pretty darn fast.) And Bush and everyone else in government know
that plans leak. Disinformation specialists at the Pentagon could not keep
their office off the front page of The New York Times. In the aftermath of
September 11, there has been much handwringing over the supposed fact that
U.S. intelligence has been too risk-averse. But, thankfully, some
inhibitions -- P.R. concerns, career concerns -- do provide brakes on the
spy-crowd.
There is plenty to be outraged over without becoming obsessed with "X
Files"-like nonsense.
By now, you're probably wondering why I have bothered to go through this
exercise. Aren't these conspiracy theories too silly to address? That should
be the case. But, sadly, they do attract people. A fellow named Michael
Ruppert, who compiled that timeline mentioned above, has drawn large crowds
to his lectures. He has offered $1000 to anyone who can "disprove the
authenticity of any of his source material." Well, his timeline includes
that Canadian prisoner's claim and cites the Toronto Star as the source. But
Ruppert fails to note that the Star did not confirm the man's account, that
the paper reported that some observers "wonder if it isn't just the ravings
of a lunatic," and that the Star subsequently reported the judge said the
tale had "no air of reality." Does that disprove anything? Not 100 percent.
There's still a chance that man is telling the truth, right? So I'm not
expecting a check.
Conspiracy theories may seem more nuisance than problem. But they do compete
with reality for attention. There is plenty to be outraged over without
becoming obsessed with "X Files"-like nonsense.
Examples? There's the intelligence services' failure to protect Americans
and the lack of criticism of the CIA from elected officials. Or, General
Tommy Franks, the commander of military operations in Afghanistan, declaring
the commando mis-assault at Hazar Qadam, which resulted in the deaths of 15
to 20 local Afghans loyal to the pro-U.S. government, was not an
intelligence failure. (How can U.S. Special Forces fire at targets they
wrongly believe to be Taliban or al Qaeda fighters, end up killing people
they did not intend to kill, and the operation not be considered an
intelligence failure?) More outrage material? A few months ago, forensic
researchers found the remains of people tortured and killed at a base the
CIA had established in the 1980s as a training center for the contras. The
U.S. ambassador to Honduras at the time is now the U.S. ambassador to the
United Nations, John Negroponte.
There are always national security misdeeds to be mad about. They may not be
as cinematic in nature as a plot in which shady, unidentified U.S. officials
scheme to blow up the World Trade Towers to gain control of an oil pipeline
in Central Asia. But dozens of dead Hondurans or 20 or so Afghans wrongly
killed ought to provoke anger and protest.
In fact, out-there conspiracy theorizing serves the interests of the
powers-that-be by making their real transgressions seem tame in comparison.
(What's a few dead in Central America, compared to thousands in New York
City? Why worry about Negroponte, when unidentified U.S. officials are
slaughtering American civilians to trigger war?) Perhaps there's a Pentagon
or CIA office that churns out this material. Its mission: distract people
from the real wrongdoing. Now there's a conspiracy theory worth exploring.
Doesn't it make sense? Doesn't it all fit together? I challenge anyone to
disprove it.
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Former award winning LAPD officer and now prominent investigative journalist on US government intel agency corruption, Mike Ruppert will appear on panel of experts in 5 upcoming air dates for Canadian TV with web access for transcript of program claiming US Government complicity in 9-11 attacks. Dr. Jackshift Sarfatti, with nominal physique of consciousness, says "it's all lies" (sight unseen) because The Schwartz told him so. What do you think?
Subject: 5 Airdates for One Hour Special Featuring Mike Ruppert on Canadian TV
5 Airdates for One Hour Special Featuring Mike Ruppert on Canadian TV
Canadian Mainstream TV to Air Roundtable of Experts, Gov’t Official, Discussing US Gov’t Complicity in 9-11 Attacks
by
Greta Knutzen, FTW Staff Writer
TORONTO, Mar. 10, 2002 (FTW) – Michael C. Ruppert, editor and publisher of From The Wilderness, raised more than a few eyebrows, during a televised debate, when he presented a scathing indictment of US government complicity in the attacks of September 11. The program, produced by Vision TV, is estimated to reach 7 million North American homes. Vision TV Insight presents the special one-hour long edition of Mediafile, entitled “9/11 Roundtable,” that will air on Thurs., Mar. 14, at 9 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET on the Vision TV network.
Special added screenings have been scheduled for Mar. 15 at 7 AM and 1 PM and for Saturday Mar. 16 at 8 PM. All times are Eastern Standard Time.
Six months after the attacks of September 11, the official explanation of events has been left largely unchallenged by mainstream North American media. The producers of Vision TV Insight have taken bold steps aimed at challenging the status quo, reminding us that the media does have a duty to inform and challenge its audience. The programme “9/11 Roundtable,” follows on the heals of Vision TV’s Medialfile host, Barrie Zwicker’s controversial six-part commentary which boldly examined the official narrative of the events of September 11 and found it to be “frankly implausible.” Zwicker’s series touched a nerve. The positive response it received indicates that there is a growing audience that does indeed want answers to the questions exposed by the official explanation of events of September 11 and its aftermath.
The groundswell of opposition to the official narrative of 9/11 is reflected by Ruppert’s increasingly popular lecture series, bourgeoning FTW subscription lists and massive sales of his video, “The Truth and Lies about 9/11.” Increasing numbers of people in all walks of life, are clearly eager for alternative analysis of the events of September 11 and unwilling to accept the official narrative any longer.
“9/11 Roundtable,” hosted by executive producer Rita Deverell, provides a forum for a long overdue yet refreshingly frank debate focusing on the question, what really happened on September 11? Ruppert faces an influential Canadian panel including Ron Atkey Q.C., former chairman of the Security Intelligence Review Committee, the agency responsible for CSIS (the Canadian intelligence community), journalist-educator Peter Desbarats, and ethicist Phyllis Creighton. Ruppert’s insightful analysis challenged the panel to tackle thorny issues such as the relationship between illicit drug trade, oil and U.S. foreign policy; the long history between the bin Laden and Bush families; questions raised by the actions and inaction of the U.S. government prior to, and on, September 11; and the lack of plausibility and logic in the U.S. governments official explanation of those events.
“9/11 Roundtable,” provides a valuable alternative to the passive and subservient post-9/11mainstream media coverage and deserves audience attention. Transcripts of the show and Zwicker’s controversial series can be obtained fromhttp://www.visiontv.ca/programs/insight/insight.htm
Panel bios:
Peter Desbarats was the Dean of Journalism at the University of Western Ontario from 1981-97. He sat on the Commission of Inquiry into the Deployment of Canadian Forces to Somalia and was later appointed as the Maclean Hunter Chair of Communications Ethics at Ryerson University.
Ron Atkey Q.C. was a former Conservative Solicitor General and minister in the government of Joe Clark. From 1984-89, he was the first chairman of he Security Intelligence Review Committee, the agency responsible for CSIS (the Canadian secret service).
Phyllis Creighton serves on the Health Canada board on reproductive technologies. She is a council member of the International Peace Bureau, the oldest peace organization in the world. She was a member of the group that produced “Just War? Just Peace!,” an educational resource for the Anglican and Lutheran churches.
-----------end forwarded post
Star Wars physics proponent Dr. Sarfatti's fantastics about his physics of consciousness and "the mind of God" are at http://www.stardrive.org along with latest draft of his almost-finished new book, "The Destiny Matrix" which might even get him on The Oprah Show with Gary Zukov for whom he ghost-wrote all the physics for "Dancing Wu Li Masters". The Jackshifter's earlier book agent was the "famous now infamous" and currently extradited from France and imprisoned in Pennsylvania ex-Philadelphia "hippie guru" Ira Einhorn of "Unicorn Killer" fame purportedly framed for a 1979 murder (like Bill Tyree perhaps, see http://www.copvcia.com) to discredit and shut him up about matters such as info at Ruppert's site which he was talking too much about in the 1970's while Sarfatti et al were working on CIA mind control theoretics and experiments and others in Einhorn info network purportedly worked on advanced electromagnetic energy weapons of mass destruction which some think are now nearly online http://www.cheniere.org or, as Sarfatti and Einhorn et. al. argue about, even perhaps reverse engineered or engineerable from crashed UFO's http://www.cseti.com , while the new energy technologies to replace nuclear and fossil fuel power available from this new science are apparently not being taken seriously in places like the California Energy Commission and CA Energy Czar's office which cancelled the appointment it made recently with Dr. Brian O'Leary for their briefing and have not responded in eight months since our visit to Governor Davis' office to deliver introductory materials on these technologies last August http://groups.yahoo.com/group/new-energy-solutions perhaps due to "national security concerns".
How to resolve? Truth-Amnesty-Reconciliation: Recognition and acceptance of the truth of the matter, sincere repentance of then understood wrong-doing/thinking, acceptance of pardon/amnesty, working together for the good thereafter http://groups.yahoo.com/group/truthamnestyreconciliation "Forgive them for they know not what they do" -- but let's soon awaken from denial and get onto the right track to global peace now.
This is a bunch of seditious nonsense and everything you say about me is
complete disinformation and misinformation distorted out of context to fit
your anti-American agenda. You belong in prison with the al Qaeda and the
Taliban. That's where Abe Lincoln would have put you in 1861.
David Crockett Williams wrote:
5 Airdates for One Hour Special Featuring Mike Ruppert on Canadian
TV
Former award winning LAPD officer and now prominent
investigative journalist on US government intel agency corruption, Mike
Ruppert will appear on panel of experts in 5 upcoming air dates for Canadian
TV with web access for transcript of program claiming US Government complicity
in 9-11 attacks. Dr. Jackshift Sarfatti, with nominal physique of consciousness,
says "it's all lies" (sight unseen) because The Schwartz told him so. What
do you think?
Subject: 5 Airdates for One Hour Special Featuring Mike Ruppert
on Canadian TV
5
Airdates for One Hour Special Featuring Mike Ruppert
on Canadian TV
Canadian
Mainstream TV to Air Roundtable of Experts, Gov
’t Official, Discussing
US Gov’
t Complicity in 9-11 Attacks
b
y
Greta Knutzen,
FTW Staff Writer
TORONTO, Mar.
10, 2002(FTW)
– Michael C. Ruppert, editor and publisher of
From The Wilderness
, raised more than a few eyebrows, during a televised debate, when he presented
a scathing indictment of US government complicity in the attacks of September
11. The program, producedby Vision TV, is estimated
to reach 7 million North American homes. Vision TV Insight presents the
special one-hour long edition of Mediafile, entitled “9/11 Roundtable,” that
will air on Thurs., Mar. 14, at 9 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET on the Vision TV network.
Special added
screenings have been scheduled for Mar. 15 at
7 AM and 1 PM and for Saturday Mar. 16 at 8 PM. All times are Eastern Standard
Time.
Six months after
the attacks of September 11, the official explanation of events has been
left largely unchallenged by mainstream North American media. The producers
of Vision TV Insight have taken bold steps aimed at challenging the status
quo, reminding us that the media does have a duty to inform and challenge
its audience. The programme “9/11 Roundtable,” follows on the heals of Vision
TV’s Medialfile host, Barrie Zwicker’s controversial six-part commentary
which boldly examined the official narrative of the events of September
11 and found it to be “frankly implausible.” Zwicker’s series touched a
nerve. The positive response it received indicates that there is a growing
audience that does indeed want answers to the questions exposed by the official
explanation of events of September 11 and its aftermath.
The groundswell
of opposition to the official narrative of 9/11 is reflected by Ruppert
’s increasingly popular lecture series, bourgeoning
FTWsubscription lists
and massive sales of his video, “TheTruth and Lies
about 9/11.” Increasing numbers of people in all walks of life, are clearly
eager for alternative analysis of the events of September 11 and
unwilling to accept the official narrative any longer.
“9/11 Roundtable,”
hosted by executive producer Rita Deverell, provides
a forum for a long overdue yet refreshingly frank debate focusing on the
question, whatreally
happened on September 11? Ruppert faces an influential Canadian panel including
Ron Atkey Q.C., former chairman of the Security Int
elligence Review Committee, the agency responsible for CSIS (the Canadian
intelligence community), journalist-educator Peter Desbarats, and ethicist
Phyllis Creighton. Ruppert’
s insightful analysis challenged the panel to tackle thorny issues such
as therelationship between
illicit drug trade, oil and U.S. foreign policy; the long history between
the bin Laden and Bush families; questions raised by the actions and inaction
of the U.S. government prior to, and on, September 11; and the lack of plausibility
and logic in the U.S. governments official explanation of those events.
“9/11 Roundtable,”
provides a valuable alternative to the passive and subservient post-9/11mainstream
media coverage and deserves audience attention. Transcripts of the show
and Zwicker’
s controversial series can be obtained from
http://www.visiontv.ca/programs/insight/insight.htm
Panel bios:
Peter Desbarats
was the Dean of Journalism at the University of Wester
n Ontario from 1981-97. He sat on the Commission of Inquiry into the Deployment
of Canadian Forces to Somalia and was later appointed as the Maclean Hunter
Chair of Communications Ethics at Ryerson University.
Ron Atkey Q.C.
was a former Conservative Solicitor General and
minister in the government of Joe Clark. From 1984-89, he was the first
chairman of he Security Intelligence Review Committee, the agency responsible
for CSIS (the Canadian secret service).
Phyllis Creighton
serves on the Health Canadaboard on reproductive
technologies. She is a council member of the International Peace Bureau,
the oldest peace organization in the world. She was a member of the group
that produced “Just War? Just Peace
!,”
an educational resource for the Anglican and Lut
heran churches.
-----------end forwarded post
Star Wars physics proponent Dr. Sarfatti's fantastics
about his physics of consciousness and "the mind of God" are at
http://www.stardrive.org
along with latest draft of his almost-finished new book, "The Destiny Matrix"
which might even get him on The Oprah Show with Gary Zukov for whom he ghost-wrote
all the physics for "Dancing Wu Li Masters". The Jackshifter's earlier
book agent was the "famous now infamous" and currently extradited from France
and imprisoned in Pennsylvania ex-Philadelphia "hippie guru" Ira Einhorn
of "Unicorn Killer" fame purportedly framed for a 1979 murder (like Bill
Tyree perhaps, see http://www.copvcia.com
) to discredit and shut him up about matters such as info at Ruppert's site
which he was talking too much about in the 1970's while Sarfatti et al were
working on CIA mind control theoretics and experiments and others in Einhorn
info network purportedly worked on advanced electromagnetic energy weapons
of mass destruction which some think are now nearly online
http://www.cheniere.org
or, as Sarfatti and Einhorn et. al. argue about, even perhaps reverse engineered
or engineerable from crashed UFO's http://www.cseti.com
, while the new energy technologies to replace nuclear and fossil fuel
power available from this new science are apparently not being taken seriously
in places like the California Energy Commission and CA Energy Czar's office
which cancelled the appointment it made recently with Dr. Brian O'Leary
for their briefing and have not responded in eight months since our visit
to Governor Davis' office to deliver introductory materials on these technologies
last August
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/new-energy-solutions
perhaps due to "national security concerns".
It's spelled "Zukav" BTW. I make no such argument about "reversed engineering".
That's Colonel Phil Corso you fool not me. My work in this area is summarized
in
and it's all basically mainstream physics, no Tesla crap, no Einstein-bashing,
just kosher physics. Brian O Leary is a complete incompetent idiot whose
book is worthless. He has no understanding of physics. The book by Nick Cook
is also very dubious. There is a massive anti-American disinformation operation
using UFO Mania, Althernative Energy, and Ban Space Weapons to over excite
all the fatuous New Age Imbecile Leftists like yourself to rabble rouse in
the streets and be cannon fodder for more sinister forces allied with al
Qaeda.
How to resolve? Truth-Amnesty-Reconciliation: Recognition
and acceptance of the truth of the matter, sincere repentance of then understood
wrong-doing/thinking, acceptance of pardon/amnesty, working together for
the good thereafter
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/truthamnestyreconciliation
"Forgive them for they know not what they do" -- but let's soon awaken
from denial and get onto the right track to global peace now.
This is The Real Schwartz Report, not that New Sewage Rumor Mongering on Inanities by The Other Schwartz and by Jeff Rense who has no sense at all of "All The News That's FIT To Print".
A lot of these cruds are incensed when you won't let them be followers.
Stephen Schwartz
Karastjepa@... wrote:
Sheehan is whore number one.
Kucinich, with whom I have a lot of experience, not as a client, is whore number two.
Do not allow anybody to attack His Holiness the Dalai Lama and especially do not assist this vermin Farley in circulating KGB/Chicom disinfo against H.H. I have my own differences with the Dalai Lama but he is a major component in the worldwide alliance against evil.
The Tibetans are true sacred warriors for the freedom of their people and of all sentient beings. Tibetans are like Kosovars and Uzbeks -- they don't take shit, even if they are Buddhists. I would be thrilled to see Farley spout this crap to some Tibetans. They would knock his fucking block off, which is exactly what he deserves.
Stephen Schwartz
I believe with absolute and perfect faith that the loudmouth enemies of the Bush administration, ranging from Big White Anthro Chief Littledick to Paul Zielinski, are, knowingly or not, accomplices of terror. They believe that their need to spout disinformation in proving their anti-government creds is of greater importance to humanity today than the effort of Bush and colleagues -- myself and Jack Sarfatti included -- to prevent an eternal war between Judeo-Christian and Islamic civilization. Littledick is the worst example -- he really thinks everything is about him having an absolute right to spout off insults against our leaders. It isn't and he doesn't. But Zielinski is clearly unable to let go of his compulsive need to prove I was wrong lo, these many years ago, when I told him he was a nobody and his opinions about Kosovo were of no significance whatever. He is and they aren't.
I also believe that George W. Bush is one of the greatest presidents this republic was ever favored with. I thank God, Baruch Hashem and Alhamdilullah, that we have a leader like him in this time of trial. No, he isn't Lincoln, but he is Truman.
By the way, I don't need to mention it a lot but I was in the target zone on 9/11 and I was fucking scared. It was like being under the tread of a dinosaur. My hands shook and I kept asking myself, are we next? Will I die today? People around me were crying. I wrote about it the next day in THE NEW YORK POST -- perhaps my greatest honor as a journalist -- a real journalist -- was that the POST asked me to write a column on the afternoon of 9/11. All this is in my book. Littledick and the other pissants in places like Accidental College have no idea what that was like, or for that matter, what the anthrax scare, which I also went through, was like. Richard Torre can tell you that during the anthrax crisis I told him I had begun to think it was all over, that civilization as we knew it would end. At that point, I wasn't scared, but I was deeply depressed. I looked back at the life I had led, the books I wrote, the women I loved, my life with my son, the places I visited. I thought it was all over.
Bush gave me strength, and Rumsfeld gave me strength. You smart little professors who sit in your offices making fun of these men -- go for it. Nobody is going to stop you. But you will never know how grateful I was that our president in that hour was not a sophisticated Clinton or Gore who would fold in the face of such a threat. We have a president who is simple in his views and that is what we need. He knows the difference between good and evil. You don't and that's too bad for you.
I watched the 9/11 doc last night. That French kid who was in the south tower when it collapsed -- he used his video camera light to guide the firemen out. He was a hero beyond anything you can imagine. The firemen were strong and calm and mad
e their way to safety. There will never be greater heroes. I'm sure Littledick and Zielinski would have been of great use at that moment; they could have repeated all their insults against the president and spouted off about oil in Kosovo.
And the firemen would still have worked to save them, too, because that's how this country, my country, is.
No liberty for the enemies of liberty!
Stephen Schwartz
Another of the more interesting things about this list is the distinction between the obnoxious types like Jack and me, and our critics, in terms of content. I open Jack's docs and find physics and math. Open my docs and you will find serious discussion of major political issues. Of course, being irascible old guys, we throw a few insults here and there as well, especially when we have to put up with a steady stream of spam from the losers. When you read what Anthrochief, Schwann, Zielinski, Farley and the rest put out, there typically is no there there, especially when they delve into politics. Anthrochief really thinks that calling Bush a fool or referring to Lynne Cheney as a bitch (someone I am sure he has never met) is, like, real effective, man. Schwann burbles around a bunch of insults and gossip. Zielinski depends on wisecracks and misinformation. Farley is rumor all the way. There is never any coherence to it. There is no argument. Just babbling by people who never left the high school cafeteria.
Bottom line being that the trash talk to each other in this shorthand. Calling Bush dumb or Lynne Cheney a bitch, or yapping about oil in Kosovo, is not communication, it's a mutual recognition sign among the scum. It would make a good anthrolingo study; how dumbass, worthless, cowardly, stupid, lowlife lefties mutually reinforce each other's crap by repeating it as a litany. It resembles the mutual recog codes among gays.
Stephen Schwartz
This is why I hate anthros. Please redistribute.
Article URL is http://www.weeklystandard.com/content/public/articles/000/000/000/037tlvsy.asp
Margaret Mead was deeply involved in the penetration of American academia by the KGB. A shocking story in every respect. She enabled Mark Zborowski, Stalin's most dangerous assassin, to gain credentials as, what else, an anthropologist.
Sorry, no moral equivalence allowed. Stay in South Africa if you can't
understand the difference between Russian imperialism and American
imperialism. Even Trotsky described American imperialism as benevolent.
Stephen Schwartz
More response to Littledick.
I learned to fieldstrip and reassemble an M1 when I was in high school ROTC.
Hardly a major technical challenge.
Littledick's brain is mush. He wants the extermination of all Islamic
fundamentalists. Bush doesn't want that and neither do I. What we want is
to neutralize political support for terrorism. Not the same thing at all.
Then says he is a social democrat, vomits out a bunch of self-contradictory
crap about world economy, and finally comes right out with it -- believes in
UFOs a la John Mack. The idea that universities continue to shelter these
crazies is outrageous.
No more discussion with Littledick for me. Let him fly away on his UFO.
Schwartz
Big White Anthro Chief Littledick (hereafter BWAC) speak with forked tongue
again. Idiot boy thinks that Bush is too dumb to know anything and is being
fed lines by Powell. In fact, Powell is largely out of the loop in DC --
policy is being made by Bush and Rumsfeld with Powell as a spare wheel.
Most revealing -- BWAC says he wants Mecca and Medina nuked! The issue here
really is incoherence. Big Whitey doesn't know what his brain is for or how
to think. It does not occur to him that the point of the present policy,
which is set by Bush, is to make distinctions between the Islamic extremists
and mainstream Islam. Powell's policy is one of sucking up to the Saudis,
which is why there is a not-so-hidden split in the administration.
The U.S. academy is filled with these little pricks. Big White is supposedly
65 or 70 years old, or so one would presume from his claim to have fought in
Korea. Once again, we see Big White's incoherence -- he claims to defend all
sorts of nice intellectual dialogue and so forth and then makes it a matter
of macho challenges.
No, I didn't serve in the armed forces. But I have looked down plenty of gun
barrels as a revolutionary, a counter-revolutionary, a crime reporter, and a
journalist in the Balkans. I was there in 1991 when the Serbs first grabbed
territory in Croatia, and they were stopping cars and waving guns. But I
also make a living honestly, not as a witch doctor promoting a genocidal
pseudoscience called anthropology. Anthros kill. In fact, I know a
fascinating case of an indigenous Central American culture wiped out with the
complicity of Big White Anthro Chiefs. Someday I'll publish that. Anthros
do something even worse than the Stalinist physicists did. They claim to be
scientists and humanists and objective and bla bla but they use their
pseudoscience as a means of imposing genocidal ideologies on helpless people.
The perversion of politics by ideology is bad enough but the corruption of
science and art by ideology is worse.
Here's the point, which is as relevant to your physics project as to our book
and to my projects.
Nobody would argue that we should not guarantee the right of people to
express opinions. But what BWAC, Schwann, and Zielinski are doing is not
expressing opinions. Opinion would involve first knowing what's going on,
and then expressing differences or criticism of a policy. Rather, they come
into the public square with the claim that they have superior knowledge over
the rest of us. They don't try to change people's opinion. They try to take
over the debate and turn it into a platform for sedition. BWAC, who has no
idea what the relationship of positions and persons is in DC, constantly uses
this bombastic vocabulary to try to assert that he knows more about Bush and
the leadership than those of us who are here in DC. Schwann is similar,
claiming to know all sorts of things about you and me. Zielinski, who has
never done anything in his life except drink coffee and do petty grad student
research, says he knows more than I do about Balkan history. What I learned
about the Balkans involved a decade of study and travels in the area. And
even now, I constantly point out to people that my views change as I receive
new data. BWAC, Schwann, and Zielinski's opinions do not change because they
refuse to receive new data.
This isn't a matter of their opinions. It's rumormongering and propaganda
recycled by the enemy's dupes. They do not seek to express an opinion.
They seek to boost their own ego by claiming they know more than everyone
else, when they actually know nothing or next to nothing. Worse, they
constantly seek to undermine public confidence in our government. How can
one imagine Big White Anthro Chief Littledick at Accidental College actually
knowing anything about what's going on in DC?
I believe that when the republic is under attack we have to moderate the
(actually ridiculous) position that the number one American value is
guaranteeing freedom to the enemies of freedom. France and Canada have laws
prohibiting rumormongering and false reporting. France makes it a crime to
question the Holocaust. Canada has taken legal action against Holocaust
deniers. (Watch out, Hick Nurdbutt!)
I increasingly favor legal and academic standards that would prevent people
like Littledick from abusing their official academic e-mails to spew hatred
of our leaders. I was going to pillory him on one of the rightwing websites
for his infamous comment demanding to know who Johnny Spann was -- does him
credit as an alleged vet, I'm sure. But in looking at the messages he has
sent out I now think it would be better for me to file a complaint with his
dean. I suspect him of trying to feed a virus into my computer. I can only
imagine with the most extreme horror the kind of subversive guff he is
doubtless shoveling out to his students.
I am also in favor of legal restrictions on rumormongering.
This would mean a change in America that would make us more like Britain or
France and less of a looney bin filled with idiots who think they can say
anything they want under the protection of the constitution. It would
certainly lower the level of seditious noise. But as was once said, there
is no freedom to shout 'fire!' in a crowded theatre.
Stephen Schwartz
It's important to realize that this article appeared in a Bosnian Serb newspaper and was then translated on a U.S. Serb website. That is, there is no doubt of its veracity. -- Stephen Schwartz
Damir Glancer, a criminal police technician at the Police Station in Teslic,
whose father Viktor was arrested, tortured and murdered by "Mice" [A Serb death squad-SAS] in the Police prison, relates his memories for Nezavisne Novine from Israel, where he lives in exile
They Slapped me and Put me in Prison:
They Thought I was a Croat
Nezavisne Novine, Banja Luka, Srpska, B-H, October 6, 1999
I was born in Teslic in a family which treated this town as its home town. None of the family members ever paid any attention to ethnic origin. My wife is a Serb, from Ruzevac, my brother's wife a Croat, my parents come from mixed
marriages... Ethnic origin was never discussed in our house.
When it was requested in the Police that employees sign a loyalty oath to the
newly proclaimed Republic of Srpska, I signed since I felt that I belonged in this town and with its people. I think that only three of us non-Serbs, signed this oath... Of course, I never thought there could be a war. I heard first time about "Mice" when the "war" in Doboj started. I remember that Predo Markocevic and
Marinko Djukic talked about what "Mice" were doing in Doboj; they said that
"Mice" should come to Teslic to "introduce order". I remember the day when
"Mice" arrived to Teslic very well. I was returning from an investigation in Banja
Vrucica. Passing through the town I realized that something unusual was going
on. When we came in front of the Police Station, I saw that all employees had
been chased out of the building and forced to line up in front of it. I saw that Police Chief Dusan Kuzmanovic, commander Predo Markocevic and chief of serious crime department M! arinko Djukic were standing on one side. I was stopped by a stranger in uniform. He carried a gun and demanded to see my official identification papers and my weapons. When he saw my name, he said "a Croat" and asked "What are you doing here?". Then he started to hit me. Finally he handcuffed me and ordered that I be taken to the prison.
This was the most humiliating experience in my life. I cannot describe that... I was the first prisoner in the cellar of the Police Station, which would later be
converted into a prison. After a while, a colleague came down and asked me what I was doing there. After I told him what had happened, he went to beg Predo and Marinko to intervene. They did not do anything, so that the colleague went to talk to chief Kuzmanovic. I found out that Kuzmanovic then went to see one of "Mice" and told them that I wasn't a Croat but a Jew. After that I was released after about three hours in captivity.
I went home that day and did not say anything to anyone. I though that the whole thing was an accident and that it was just a passing phase. The following night at about three in the morning Predo called me to go on an investigation in Ruzevac. We finished our work without trouble and in the morning I went to work. At about 10am a group of Dobojlije [people from the town of Doboj] burst into the station together with my former colleague Milan Savic and inspector Dragan Gagovic. Savic approached me and said fairly politely. "Damir, you should go home". I turned over my official weapon, obtained a receipt and went home.
On June 7, my mother told me that the father had been arrested. I asked who had taken him away. When she said that our policemen had taken him away, I thought "that's good, they know me, they know dad..." I tried to get in touch with my colleagues, to see what was going on. I couldn't find anyone, no one could tell me anything.
Those days, life in Teslic was horrible. Curfew, I couldn't go anywhere, I could
hear swearing through the window, no one was coming to visit... I prepared a
propane bottle, to kill myself if they came to arrest me again.
When "Mice" were arrested, a colleague of mine came and said that Pile wanted to talk to us. I went and he asked me whether I would be willing to return to work. Since we had already heard that some prisoners had been killed, I asked him about my father and he said that he would check. I talked to my mother and uncle Drago Jazbec about the job offer and accepted to return to the Police. I did not even think that my father was murdered by Serbs, but by criminals.
I worked until the Police Station in Teslic again came under the jurisdiction of
Doboj. When the people who had collaborated with "Mice" returned to the
Station, I realized what could happen to me and started to weigh my options. I
knew that they knew what I knew. When they told me "you are going to Vozuca" [a Serb majority town south from Doboj, the site of a Bosniak-Muslim offensive in 1995] I decided to leave Teslic. When I returned alive from Vozuca, I picked up my papers and went to Belgrade and then to Israel.
Some people had told my father to leave before "Mice" arrived to Teslic. I
remember that he responded by saying: "Why should we run away when we
haven't wronged anyone, everyone knows me, they were all my pupils..." Once
uncle Drago told dad: "Viktor, you, I and Boro are all on the list..." Father did not believe him.
I heard that someone tried to hide father in an office when they were taking them from the prison to Borje and that policeman Aleksa Petrovic said that one
prisoner was missing... That man took many people to death. He took my father and Boro Pastuhovic to prison. I've been told that he was one of the main collaborators of "Mice".
Some of my colleagues swore that they did not know that my father was in
prison. I know that Vlado Trifunovic and Milan Nedic assisted some people. I
know that reserve policeman Aleksa Jovic was the only one to help prisoners as much as he could. I do not understand how and why no one was able to save my father.
I found my father after seven years and now I at least know where his grave is. I had a hard time dealing with the fact that he was horribly tortured. An autopsy
found out that he was missing half of his scull and that all of his ribs were
broken. He was really bestially tortured.
--
"What I cannot create. I do not understand." Richard Feynman http://stardrive.org/Jack/cover.jpg http://stardrive.org/Jack/Ohm.pdf http://stardrive.org/
>Thanks Saul-Paul. I will redistribute this.
>
>From: "S-P & M-M Sirag " <sirag@...>
>Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:20:54 -0800
>To: sarfatti@..., ibison@... >Subject: Re: Templeton Prize on God as Physicist
>
>
>Jack,
>
>Paul Davies wrote two books that got the attention of the Templeton Prize
>people. They both have quite a lot about God in them--not just on the cover.
>
"My best conundrum wasted!" King Gama in "Princess Ida" G & S
>
>
>*God and the New Physics* (Simon and Schuster, 1983) has the following
>chapters which discuss God and the nature of reality:
> 1. Science and religion in a changing world
> 3. Did God create the universe?
> 6. Mind and soul
> 10. Free will and determinism
> 12. Accident or design?
> 14. Miracles
> 17. The Physicist's conception of nature
>
>*The Mind of God: The Scientific Basis for a Rational World* (Simon and
>Schuster, 1992) discusses the God question in the following chapters:
> 1. Reason and belief
> 2. Can the universe create itself
> 7. Why is the world the way it is?
> 8. Designer universe
> 9. The mystery at the end of the universe
>
>Actually, these books philosophical rather than being theological; and they
>contain a fair amount of contemporary physics.
>
My answers to these questions are in http://stardrive.org/Jack/Casimir.pdf
http://wwwsys.informatik.fh-wiesbaden.de/weber1/melchior/melsnd.htm click on
Morgenlich leuchtend (prize song) (Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg,
Richard Wagner), Lauritz Melchior, London Symphony Orchestra, cond. by
John Barbirolli, 1931,
Briefly in terms of Wheelerisms
The Cipher of Genesis, Rabbi Sarfatti's Version (e.g. Solomon Ha
Zarfati, Troyes, France 1040-1105) http://stardrive.org/cartoon/MagicBean.html
(See John Updike's "Roger's Version" and "The Witches of Eastwick")
Wheeler's
"It From Bit"
What is "It"?
What is "Bit"?
You need Bohm's Version not Bohr's.
It's Time To Slay "The Smoky Dragon!"
The Emperor Has No Clothes.
"It" is classical "material". Geometry is "material" in this sense of
"It". "It" is a "system point" moving on a "landscape".
Got It?
Good.
"Bit" is really "Qubit" not Shannon classical or c-Bit. "Qubit" is
intrinsically "mental". It is the "pilot wave" landscape.
"It From Bit" is It getting "its marching orders from" Bit.
Examples
psi = |psi|e^itheta = Qubit Field of pure mentality -- physically real
but nonclassical, non material.
V = (h/m)Grad theta - (e/hc)A
is an example of It (V) From Bit (theta).
V is 3-vector velocity of "Bohm Hidden Variable" (particle) receiving
its marching orders from the phase theta of (pilot wave) psi and also
the 3-vector potential A if the particle carries electric charge e.
A more profound example of "It From Bit" is the 4-dimensional equation
guv(x) = (1/2)Lp^2{D*u,D*v}theta
Lp^2 = hG/c^3 = 1 Bekenstein "Bit" of area 10^-66 cm^2.
Detailed math definitions are in
http://stardrive.org/Jack/Casimir.pdf
psi is the Bose-Einstein condensate of virtual infrared Goldstone
tachyons in the macroscopic quantum phase transition from Flat World to
Curve World.
Flat World consists only of locally random virtual zero point
U(1)xSU(2)xSU(3) gauge force spin 1 massless bosons and massless spin
1/2 quanta along with spin 0 quanta of mass M. The macroscopic quantum
phase transition is when M moves from real positive to imaginary axis
through zero with an effective potential
V(psi*,psi) = M^2 psi*psi + b(psi*psi)^2
b > 0 always
M^2 > 0 -> M^2 < 0 is the macroscopic quantum phase transition from
virtual random spin 0 quanta to virtual nonrandom tachyonic
Bose-Einstein condensate with local order parameter psi(x). A local
order parameter has long range quantum phase coherence, i.e. theta(x)
field.
The Landau-Ginzburg "Bit From It" equation is
D^uDupsi + M^2psi + b|psi|^2psi = 0
M^2 < 0, b > 0
With scalar spin 0 nonlinear covariant D'Alembertian operator
D^uDu + M^2 + b|psi|^2
This solves Andre Sakharov's problem of 1967, i.e.
"It From Bit" + "Bit From It" = "Universe as Self-Excited Circuit?"
Einstein asked: "Did God had any choice when He created the universe?"
Hawking asked: "What is It that breathes life (fire) into the equations
of physics?"
Rabbi Sarfatti's answer: "God had no choice when He created the
universe. He made Himself an offer He could not refuse."
What else is there for an Omniscient Omnipotentate?
"My Object All Sublime, I shall achieve In Space-Time" http://math.boisestate.edu/gas/mikado/webopera/song17.html
http://math.boisestate.edu/gas/mikado/webopera/song17.mid
>
>Another philosophical book which deals with the God question has not
>aparently come to the attention of the Templeton people. This is *The Whys
>of a Philosophical Scrivener* by Martin Gardner --yes THE Martin Gardner ;-)
>Here is a list of the chapters in Gardner's book (published by Quill, New
>York, 1983, the same year as Davies first "God" book:
>
> 1. The World: Why I Am Not a Solipsist
> 2. Truth: Why I Am Not a Pragmatist
> 3. Science: Why I Am Not a Paranormalist
> 4. Beauty: Why I Am Not an Aesthetic Relativist
> 5. Goodness: Why I Am Not an Ethical Relativist
> 6. Free Will: Why I Am Not a Determinist or Haphazardist
> 7. The State: Why I Am Not an Anarchist
> 8. The State: Why I Am Not a Smithian
> 9. Liberty: Why I Am Not a Marxist
> 10. The Gods: Why I Am Not a Polytheist
> 11. The All: Why I Am not a Panthiest
> 12. The Proofs: Why I Do Not Believe God's Existence Can be Demonstrated
> 13. Faith: Why I Am Not an Athiest
> 14. Prayer: Why I Do Not Think It Foolish
> 15. Evil: Why?
> 16. Evil: Why We Don't Know Why?
> 17. Immortality: Why I Am Not Resigned
> 18. Immortality: Why I Do Not Think It Strange
> 19. Immortality: Why I Do Not Think It Impossible
> 20. Surprise: Why I Cannot Take the World for Granted
> 21. Faith and the Future: A Prologue
>
>There are extensive notes, and it is clear that Gardner has read very widely
>on these topics.
>
>You mentioned Margo St. James. I used to visit Margo at her flat on upper
>Grant (not far from the Trieste). She would always be standing at the top of
>the stairs--completely nude. That was in 1965 when I lived in North Beach.
>I never had sex with her. We just talked about our religious backgrounds and
>other topics in the news of the day. She like me was brought up as a
>Fundamentalist Christian. I used to share my missionary Mother's letters
>with her. The first day I met her was shortly after she had to give up her
>police dog--because it had bitten a policeman who had come to visit her.
>The only time I met Herb Caen was in her back yard. Herb wrote about Margo
>frequently in his column in the Chronicle. He called her "San Francisco's
>favorite call girl." He also described her New Year's eve parties, which
>were crowed with many of the "movers and shakers" of the city. This
>eventually evolved into the "Hooker's Ball." When I met Margo, she had a
>large law library, and was studying law so that she could form a legally
>constituted hooker's union.
>
>All for now.
>
>Saul-Paul (March 12, 2002)
>
>
--
"What I cannot create. I do not understand." Richard Feynman http://stardrive.org/Jack/cover.jpg http://stardrive.org/Jack/Ohm.pdf http://stardrive.org/
Nazi Hick Nurdbutt engages in the classic gambit of the venomous, evil, anti-Jewish reptile. Neither Sarfatti nor Schwartz has ever written on Israel or the Palestinians, except that Schwartz has reported on news emanating from that area in a purely journalistic manner. (In fact, Schwartz is known as a longtime advocate of improved Jewish-Muslim relations.) But naturally Hick presumes that if we are Jews, that is our "issue." So he sends out some bullshit about Israel and the Palestinians and then says it is way ahead of what we are doing. OK, fine. Then if I send out a recipe for carrot cake that answers Jack's physics and if Jack sends out a description of his new car, that answers my comments about Communism.
>From every indication Hick Nurdbutt is a person in serious need of a lesson about hatemongering. Namely, you attack the Jews with evil propaganda and you get punished. You promote hate, you get hate back. You incite violence, and violence strikes you. I do not refer here to the Palestinians and their difficulties. I refer to assholes in America who consider spreading anti-Jewish bile to be an acceptable contribution in the public square. Gladstone had it right. Sooner or later someone will go down to Boulder Crick, muscle Nurdbutt's Nazi boyfriends out of the way, and give him what he deserves.
Sarfatti and Schwartz do not live in Israel and have no reason to respond to idiotic polemics about the Middle East. Nazi Nick has no moral standing to become involved in any such discussion.
I don't get where all these Nazis come from. Farley has also sicked some weirdo Jewbaiter on me. I suggest Farley be cut off altogether. These people need to be quarantined.
Another of the more interesting things about this list is
the distinction between the obnoxious types like Jack and me, and our critics, in terms of content. I open Jack's docs and find physics and math. Open
my docs and you will find serious discussion of major political issues. Of
course, being irascible old guys, we throw a few insults here and there as
well, especially when we have to put up with a steady stream of spam from
the losers. When you read what Anthrochief, Schwann, Zielinski, Farley and
the rest put out, there typically is no there there, especially when they
delve into politics.
This is hilarious. We had a long e-mail debate about the new corporatism some weeks ago, before the
Enron shit really hit the fan. Now that the covert revolving-door corporatism of the Enron scandal (which grows
uglier and more malignant everyday) has been largely exposed, you make this
silly statement that there is "no
there there".
Wait, what Steve says about Schwann's Shallow Way is 100% accurate, What
he says about Dicky Bird Farley, The Do Do of The Aviary, is at least 90%
accurate. About you I do not know since I have not been reading that stuff
as it is beyond both my interests and definitely my competence I am not ashamed
to admit. Unlike many of the poseurs I do not pretend to know things I do
not know. I do wish you would study
Note two precognitions this week one close upon the other.
1. Referring to http://stardrive.org/Jack/Casimir.pdf as the "natural born
killer renormalization app" on Sunday only to read on Monday in SF Chron
Science on "supervaccines" using a more primitive part of immune system of
"natural born killer" cells.
2. Referring to Dicky Bird as a Do Do on Tues only to read on Wed of article
on the Do Do in NY Science Times from Tues.
Retrocausation of mental process - two closely spaced data points since I
never think of "natural born killer" or of "Do Do", though most of the remarks
of most of the poseurs like Schwann, Farley, Crowell, Hurdbutt are "Doo Doo".
So who do da doo doo? Da Do Do! Dat's who do da post-quantum voo doo. ;-)
Please stop sending me those e-mails. You know who
are. And you know what e-mails I mean.... Okay, I�ll spell it out -- those
forwarded e-mails suggesting, or flat-out stating, the CIA and the U.S. government
were somehow involved in the horrific September 11 attacks.
The fact is that the New Age Imbecile Left out of est and Esalen primarily
in the last 25 years is spreading these seditious rumors all over the Internet.
Abraham Lincoln did not tolerate sedition in 1861. Today we have a cultural
Civil War with a numerically small but media savvy hip chic agents of influence
spreading disinformation, misinformation and bald lies as if it were well
researched news. Well that IS like crying fire in the theater when in fact
there is no fire. Look I know many of these frauds since 1975. This is a
5th Column of Fatuous Seditors supporting the Axis of Evil. The fact is very
clear. Responsible dissent is to be respected always, but those who cannot
see the difference between responsible dissent and irresponsible rumor mongering
also cannot see the difference between George Bush and Osama Bin Ladin, they
cannot tell the difference between right and wrong, between good and evil.
That's what the bogus spiritualism of the New Age out of Esalen since the
70's has wrought. It's not a pretty picture. I was there from the beginning
on the inside. No fooling me. Ira Einhorn is not an isolated case. Look at
Margaret Mead, at Gary Zukav, at Werner Erhard, at Nick Herbert - a clear
progression of brain washing to create John Lindh as Marin County has been
The Center of the Psi Clones.
There are e-mails about a fellow imprisoned in Canada who claims to
be a former U.S. intelligence office and who supposedly passed advance warning
of the attack to jail guards in mid-August. There are e-mails, citing an
Italian newspaper, reporting that last July Osama bin Laden was treated for
kidney disease at the American hospital in Dubai and met with a CIA official. There are the e-mails, referring to a book published in France, that note the attacks came a month after Bush administration officials, who were negotiating an oil deal with the Taliban, told the Afghans "either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs."
Get the hint? Washington either did nothing to stop the September 11
attacks or plotted the assaults so a justifiable war could then be waged against
Afghanistan to benefit Big Oil. One e-mail I keep receiving is a timeline
of so-called suspicious events that "establishes CIA foreknowledge of [the
September 11 attacks] and strongly suggests that there was criminal complicity
on the part of the U.S. government in their execution." I won�t argue that
the U.S. government does not engage in brutal, murderous skulduggery from
time to time. But the notion that the U.S. government either detected the
attacks but allowed them to occur, or, worse, conspired to kill thousands of Americans to launch a war-for-oil in Afghanistan is absurd. Still, each week e-mails passing on such tripe arrive. This crap is probably not worth a rational rebuttal, but Im irritated enough to try.
It�s a mug�s game to refute individual pieces of conspiracy theories. Who can really know if anything that bizarre happened at a Dubai hospital? As for the man jailed in Canada, he was being held on a credit card fraud charge, and the only source for the story about his warning was his own word. The judge in his case said, "There is no independent evidence to support his
colossal allegations." But a conspiracy-monger can reply, "wouldn�t you expect
the government and its friends in Canada to say that?"
So let�s start with a broad question: would U.S. officials be capable of such a foul deed? Capable -- as in able to pull it off and willing to do
so. Simply put, the spies and special agents are not good enough, evil enough,
or gutsy enough to mount this operation. That conclusion is based partly
on, dare I say it, common sense, but also on years spent covering national
security matters. (For a book I wrote on the CIA, I interviewed over 100
CIA officials and employees.)
Anyone with the most basic understanding of how government functions realizes that the national security bureaucracies of Washington do not work well together.
Not good enough: Such a plot -- to execute the simultaneous destruction
of the two towers, a piece of the Pentagon, and four airplanes and make it
appear as if it all was done by another party -- is far beyond the skill
level of U.S. intelligence. It would require dozens (or scores or hundreds)
of individuals to attempt such a scheme. They would have to work together,
and trust one another not to blow their part or reveal the conspiracy. They
would hail from an assortment of agencies (CIA, FBI, INS, Customs, State,
FAA, NTSB, DOD, etc.). Yet anyone with the most basic understanding of how
government functions (or, does not function) realizes that the various bureaucracies
of Washington -- particularly those of the national security "community"
-- do not work well together.
Even covering up advance knowledge would require an extensive plot. If there truly had been intelligence reports predicting the 9/11 attacks, these reports would have circulated through intelligence and policy-making circles before the folks at the top decided to smother them for geopolitical gain. That would make for a unwieldy conspiracy of silence. And in either scenario -- planning the attacks or permitting them to occur -- everyone who
participated in the conspiracy would have to be freakin� sure that all the
other plotters would stay quiet.
Not evil enough: This is as foul as it gets -- to kill thousands of
Americans, including Pentagon employees, to help out oil companies. (The sacrificial
lambs could have included White House staff or members of Congress, had the
fourth plane not crashed in Pennsylvania.) This is a Hollywood-level of dastardliness,
James Bond (or Dr. Evil) material. Are there enough people of such a bent
in all those agencies? That�s doubtful.
CIA officers and American officials have been evildoers. They have supported death squads and made use of drug dealers overseas. They have assisted torturers, disseminated assassination manuals, sold weapons to terrorist-friendly governments, undermined democratically-elected governments, and aided dictators who murder and maim. They have covered up reports of massacres and human rights
abuses. They have plotted to kill foreign leaders. These were horrendous activities,
but, in most instances, the perps justified these deeds with Cold War imperatives
(perverted, as they were). And, to make the justification easier, the victims
were people overseas.
Justifying the murder of thousands of Americans to help ExxonMobil would require U.S. officials to engage in a different kind of detachment and
an even more profound break with decency and moral norms. I recall interviewing one former CIA official who helped manage a division that ran the sort of actions listed above, and I asked him whether the CIA had considered "permanently neutralizing" a former CIA man who had revealed operations and the identities of CIA officers. Kill an American citizen? he replied, as if I were crazy to ask. No, no, he added, we could never do that. Yes, in the spy-world some things were beyond the pale. And, he explained, it would be far too perilous, for getting caught in that type of nasty business could threaten your career. Which brings us to....
Not gutsy enough: Think of the danger -- the potential danger to the
plotters. What if their plan were uncovered before or, worse, after the fact?
Who�s going to risk being associated with the most infamous crime in U.S.
history? At the start of such a conspiracy, no one could be certain it would
work and remain a secret. CIA people -- and those in other government agencies
-- do care about their careers. Would George W. Bush take the chance of being
branded the most evil president of all time by countenancing such wrongdoing?
Oil may be in his blood, but would he place the oil industry�s interests
ahead of his own? (He sure said sayonara to Kenneth Lay and Enron pretty
darn fast.) And Bush and everyone else in government know that plans leak.
Disinformation specialists at the Pentagon could not keep their office off
the front page of The New York Times. In the aftermath of September 11, there
has been much handwringing over the supposed fact that U.S. intelligence has
been! too risk-averse. But, thankfully, some inhibitions -- P.R. concerns, career concerns -- do provide brakes on the spy-crowd.
There is plenty to be outraged over without becoming obsessed with "X Files"-like nonsense. By now, you�re probably wondering why I have bothered to go through this exercise. Aren�t these conspiracy theories too silly to address? That should be the case. But, sadly, they do attract people. A fellow named Michael Ruppert, who compiled that timeline mentioned above, has drawn large crowds to his lectures. He has offered $1000 to anyone who can "disprove the authenticity of any of his source material." Well, his timeline includes that Canadian prisoner�s claim and cites the Toronto Star as the source. But
Ruppert fails to note that the Star did not confirm the man�s account, that
the paper reported that some observers "wonder if it isn�t just the ravings
of a lunatic," and that the Star subsequently reported the judge said the
tale had "no air of reality." Does that disprove anything? Not 100 percent.
There�s still a chance that man is telling the truth, right? So I�m not expe!
cting a check.
Conspiracy theories may seem more nuisance than problem. But they
do compete with reality for attention. There is plenty to be outraged over
without becoming obsessed with "X Files"-like nonsense.
Examples? There�s the intelligence services� failure to protect Americans and the lack of criticism of the CIA from elected officials. Or, General Tommy
Franks, the commander of military operations in Afghanistan, declaring the
commando mis-assault at Hazar Qadam, which resulted in the deaths of 15 to
20 local Afghans loyal to the pro-U.S. government, was not an intelligence failure. (How can U.S. Special Forces fire at targets they wrongly believe to be Taliban or al Qaeda fighters, end up killing people they did not intend to kill, and the operation not be considered an intelligence failure?) More outrage material? A few months ago, forensic researchers found the remains of people tortured and killed at a base the CIA had established in the 1980s as a training center for the contras. The U.S. ambassador to Honduras at the
time is now the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, John Negroponte. There
are always national security misdeeds to be mad about. They may not be as
cinematic in nature as a plot in which shady, unidentified U.S. officials scheme to blow up the World Trade Towers to gain control of an oil pipeline in Central Asia. But dozens of dead Hondurans or 20 or so Afghans wrongly killed ought to provoke anger and protest.
In fact, out-there conspiracy theorizing serves the interests of the
powers-that-be by making their real transgressions seem tame in comparison. (What�s a few dead in Central America, compared to thousands in New York City?
Why worry about Negroponte, when unidentified U.S. officials are slaughtering American civilians to trigger war?) Perhaps there�s a Pentagon or CIA office that churns out this material. Its mission: distract people from the real wrongdoing. Now there�s a conspiracy theory worth exploring. Doesn�t it make sense? Doesn�t it all fit together? I challenge anyone to disprove it.
Schwann wrote:
>Paul Zielinski to Steven Schwartz:::
>You are an intellectually bankrupt Cold War retread who is overdue
>for the scrapyard.
>
>Schwann:: This is very well put. When I heard Pres Bush on TV tonite
>saying how much he was looking forward to a closer relationship with
>Moscow, and compared it to Steven's statements on an imagined ongoing
>'Stalinist' plot, I'm wondering if Bush has lost it, or Steven.
>
>Actually, I think I'd vote for Bush if it came down to the two of
>them...Can you imagine what kind of book Sarfatti and Schwartz are
>writing? Springtime for Science?
>
>schwann
>
It won't be "Schwann's Way" (Subtitle, The Tao of Fatuity) I can promise
you that.
>
>
>
>
>
--
"What I cannot create. I do not understand." Richard Feynman
http://stardrive.org/Jack/cover.jpghttp://stardrive.org/Jack/Ohm.pdfhttp://stardrive.org/
>
> S-P & M-M Sirag wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Oppenheimer and Bohm: a reply to Stephen Schwartz
>>
>> Since the relationship between Oppenheimer and Bohm is central to
>> your Hidden Variables history, you and Steve need to have the dates
>> (and other items) straight. Steve's critique of the "popular" version
>> of the story is largely correct. However, he says, "he [Bohm] was
>> actually fired in a purge by Oppenheimer of 'Trotskyism in Physics'."
>> But this implies that Bohm's anti-Copenhagen papers of 1952, were the
>> cause of Oppenheimer's presumed actions against Bohm. The dates of
>> the events suggest a very different picture.
>>
>> 1943 -- Oppenheimer reports to Captain DeSilva a list of "what persons
>> at Berkeley were in his opinion truly dangerous. He named David Joseph
>> Bohm and Bernard Peters as being so." (p. 150, In the Matter of J.
>> Robert Oppenheimer, USAEC [herinafter called AEC hearings of 1954],
>> MIT press, 1971). In the 1954 hearing, when DeSilva's memo is quoted,
>> Oppenheimer denies having called Bohm a dangerous person (p. 151, of
>> AEC hearings).
>>
>> March 1943 -- Oppenheimer asks for a transfer of Bohm from Berkeley to
>> Los Alamos. The request is denied.
>>
>> 1943--Bohm recieves a PhD in physics from Berkeley. Oppenheimer was
>> one of his professors.
>>
>> 1946 -- Oppenheimer helps Bohm get an appointment to Princeton
>> Physics department as assistant professor. (AEC hearings, p. 151)
>>
>> May 1949 -- Bohm testifies before House Un-American Activities
>> Committee. He invokes the 5th Amendment right to decline to testify
>> when asked about Communist Party membership and activities. (AEC
>> hearings, p. 152)
>>
>> 1949-1950 -- Bohm is asked by Princeton to take a leave of absence
>> from teaching. However, he continues to receive his salary. He works
>> on the book, *Quantum Theory*. He also talks to Einstein and shows
>> him his manuscript of the book. Einstein declares that it is the
>> clearest description of Bohr's (Coopenhagen) interpretation of quantum
>> theory. It contains a long section on the Einstein-Rosen-Podolsky
>> thought experiment. Bohm recasts the experiment in terms of particle
>> spin rather than position and momentum. This is a crucial change
>> leading to the eventual work of John Bell and John Clauser, and Alain
>> Aspect in the testing deep aspects of quantum mechanics.
>>
>> 1950 -- Bohm's contract with Princeton is not removed. He gets an
>> appointment at Sao Paulo University in Brazil. Eugene Wigner, a very
>> close friend of Von Neumann, (both very imaginative Coopenhagenists,
>> and very patriotic American immigrants from Hungary) hosts a going
>> away party for Bohm.
>>
>> [Oppenheimer says that he had nothing to do with Bohm's getting the
>> Sao Paulo position. But he said -- if asked to write a letter of
>> reference for Bohm -- "I am quite sure I would have written a letter
>> of recommendation about his physics (AEC hearings, p. 152). Note that
>> this is 2 years after Bohm published his anti-Coopenhagen papers.]
>>
>> 1951 -- Bohm's *Quantum Theory* is published by Prentice Hall. He
>> says in the preface, "An appreciable part of the material in this book
>> was suggested by remarks made by Professor J.R. Oppenheimer in a
>> series of lectures on quantum theory delivered at the University of
>> California at Berkeley, and by notes on part of these lectures take by
>> Professor B. Peters. A series of lectures by Niels Bohr, entitled
>> 'Atomic Theory and the Description of Nature' were of crucial
>> imortance in supplying the general philosophical basis needed for a
>> rational understanding of quantum theory."
>>
>> [Remember that according the the AEC hearings (1954), Oppenheimer had
>> reported to Captain DeSilva that both Bohm and Peters were "truly
>> dangerous" persons. Further according to DeSilva's memo, "Oppenheimer
>> stated, however, that somehow he did not believe that Bohm's
>> temperment and personality were those of a dangerous person and
>> implied that this dangerousness lay in the possibility of his being
>> influenced by others. Peters, on the other hand, he described as a
>> 'crazy person' and one whose actions would be unpredictable. He
>> described Peters as being 'quite a Red' and stated that his background
>> was filled with incidents which indicated his tendency toward direct
>> action." In followup questioning, Oppenheimer denied ever having said
>> that Bohm was dangerous. As Oppenheimer put it: "I recall the
>> conversation, though I don't recall these as accurate words. I
>> remember only being asked by DeSilva, among these people, and I think
>> there were four, which do you thiink is the most dangerous, and saying
>> Peters." (AEC hearings, p. 150)]
>>
>>
>> BTW there is interesting information on the development of Bohm's
>> anti-Coopenhagen position in Max Jammer's book, *The Philosophy of
>> Quantum Mechanics* (Wiley, 1974) on page 279. Jammer makes the same
>> mistake about McCarthy and HUAC that Steve points to -- in fact this
>> passage may be the source of some of these mistakes, since this book
>> is the most detailed compendium on the philosophy of quantum theory.
>> Jammer writes concerning Bohm's *Quantum Theory* book of 1951:
>>
>> "Still, on closer inspection, the critical reader of Bohm's book
>> could not have failed to note that some explanations--in particular in
>> the treatment of the process of measurement--did not fully reflect the
>> spirit of Bohr's philosophy. Bohm sent copies to Einstein, Pauli, and
>> Bohr. 'Einstein liked the book,' Pauli likewise expressed his
>> appreciation, but Bohr remained silent!
>>
>> "At that time, as a result of the crusade launched by Senator
>> Joseph Raymond McCarthy, chairman [sic] of the United States
>> Congressional Committee on Un-American Acitivities, Bohm was suspended
>> from his position. Taking advantage of his involuntary vacation,
>> before leaving for the University of Sao Paulo in Brazil, he
>> 'experimented with physical concepts,' as he later liked to call it.
>> Stimulated by his discussions with Einstein and influenced by an essay
>> which, as he told the present author, was 'written in English' and
>> 'probably by Blokhintsev or some other Russian theorist like
>> Terletzkii,' and which criticized Bohr's approach. Bohm began to study
>> the possibility of introducing hidden variables. During the next few
>> weeks he wrote a paper on his suggested interpretation of quantum
>> mechanics, preprints of which he sent to his colleagues as well as to
>> Pauli. Pauli rejected the paper, saying that it is 'old stuff, dealt
>> with long ago.' Prompted by these remarks Bohm wrote a sequel paper in
>> which he proposed a new theory of measurement in conformity with his
>> hidden variable theory."
>>
>> [Reference: D.Bohm, "A suggested interpretation of the quantum theory
>> in terms of 'hidden variables,' Parts I and II," *Physical Review* 85,
>> 166-179; 180-193 (1952); received July 5, 1951.]
>>
>> According to a footnote by Jammer, it is not clear which paper Bohm
>> could have been referring to. However, Blokhinsev was definitely
>> anti-Coopenhagen. On pp. 176-7 of Jammer's book, we read:
>>
>> "In Reichenbach regarded hidden variables as a logically possible,
>> but physically inappropriate, assumption. Dimitry Ivanovich Blokhinzev
>> of Moscow's Lomonosov State University considered it an open question
>> to be decided by future research. In a paper published in Russian but
>> soon translated into French and German, in which he severly criticized
>> the 'subjective-idealistic conceptions' of the Coopenhagen school, he
>> also referred to von Neumann's proof [of the incompatibility of hidden
>> variables with quantum mechanics], calling it 'not satisfactory' since
>> it is based on the formalism of quantum mechanics. In his view a
>> consistent hidden variable theory may be established only if these
>> variables are not accommodated within the usual formalism of quantum
>> mechanics."
>>
>> Apparently Blokhinzev's anti-Coopenhagen views were widely held within
>> the Soviet Union. However, there were other eminent Soviet physicists
>> who supported Bohr's views--for example, Vladimir Foch and Lev Landau
>> (who in fact spent some time at Bohr's institute).
>>
>> Bohm's career after Princeton:
>>
>> 1950-1955 -- University of Sao Paulo, where he was visited by J.-P.
>> Vigier and R. Feynman.
>>
>> 1955-1957 -- Haifa Institute of Technology, where he began writing
>> papers with Yakir Aharonov.
>>
>> 1957 -- *Causality and Chance in Modern Physics* (published by
>> Routledge & Kegan Paul)
>>
>> 1957-1961 -- Bristol University, UK, where with Aharonov he wrote the
>> seminal Aharonov-Bohm
>> effect paper (1959)
>>
>> 1961-1983 -- Birkbeck College, University of London, where we wrote a
>> series of papers with Basil Hiley, culminating in the book, *The
>> Undivided Universe* published in 1993 after his death in 1992.
>>
>> 1964 -- John Stewart Bell, publishes his theorem building on the work
>> of Bohm and leading to the laboratory experiments of Clauser, Aspect,
>> etc. (This paper and Bohm's 1952 papers and many other relevant papers
>> are collected in *Quantum Theory and Measurement* edited by Wheeler
>> and Zurek (Princeton, 1983). J.S. Bell was a strong supporter of
>> Bohm's anti-Coopenhagenism, and his papers are collected in *Speakable
>> and Unspeakable in Quantum Mechanics* (Cambridge, 1987).
>>
>> In 1961 he met Krishnamerti and became an active supporter of his
>> teachings. This is reflected in some of his more mystical writings,
>> such as *Wholeness and the Implicate Order* (RKP, 1980)
>>
>> In 1987 a festshrift for Bohm's 70th birthday was published,
>> *Quantum Implications, edited by B.J. Hiley and F. David Peat. There
>> are two papers by Bohm himself as well as an introductory chapter on
>> Bohm's life and work. In that chapter there is a two paragraph
>> description of Bohm's political difficulties:
>>
>> "It was while writing this book [*Quantum Theory*] that he came
>> into conflict with what eventually became known as McCarthyism. A year
>> or so after arriving at Princeton he was called to appear befor the
>> Un-American Activities Committee, a committee of the House of
>> Representatives. He as asked to testify against colleagues and
>> associates. After taking legal advice he decided to plead the Fifth
>> Amendment. A year or so later, while he was in the middle of his book,
>> his plea was rejected and he was indicted for contempt of Congress.
>> While awaiting trial, the Supreme Court ruled that no one should be
>> forced to testify if the testimony is self-incriminating, provided no
>> crime had been committed. Since no crime had been committed the
>> indictment against Bohm was dropped.
>> "During this period the University advised Bohm to stay away, on
>> of the few benefits to emerge from this whole sordid affair. During
>> his enforced isolation he was able to complete the book far sooner
>> than he had anticipated. After that, however, with his contract at
>> Princeton expired, he was unable to obtain a job in the USA and was
>> advised by Oppenheimer to leave the country before the full force of
>> McCarthyism took effect. Fortunately he had some friends in Brazil
>> whe were able to offer him a professorship in the University in Sao
>> Paulo. He held this post from 1951 to 1955."
>>
>> Note that in 1950, Oppenheimer had no reason to try to "disprove Bohm"
>> since the book he was working on was largely based on Oppenheimer's
>> own Berkeley lectures, as well as Bohr's writings--and so was
>> considered as a strong, and clear, Coopenhagenist textbook.
>>
>> All for now.
>>
>> Saul-Paul (March 13, 2002, on the eve of Einstein's 123rd birthday)
>>
>> ----------
>> From: Jack Sarfatti <sarfatti@...>
>> To: Paul Zielinski <pzielins@...>, Jack Sarfatti
>> <sarfatti@...>
>> Subject: HIDDEN VARIABLES: THE SECRET HISTORY OF PHYSICS AND POLITICS
>> IN THE 20TH CENTURY.
>> Date: Wed, Mar 13, 2002, 9:40 AM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From a website article:
>>
>> "David Bohm: Princeton University; Fellow of the
>> Royal Society of London; a former student of
>> Oppenheimer. Bohm declined to testify at
>> Oppenheimer's hearing before Senator Joseph
>> McCarthy's House Un-American Activities Committee
>> in the 1950s for fear that his words might be
>> twisted against his former mentor and he emigrated
>> to England."
>>
>> 1. Bohm did not "decline to testify at
>> Oppenheimer's hearing before Senator Joseph
>> McCarthy's House Un-American Activities Committee
>> in the 1950s."
>>
>> a. No such hearings took place. Oppenheimer
>> hearings were held by the AEC. Bohm was not
>> called as a witness.
>>
>> b. Senators do not lead or sit on House
>> committees. This is one of the commonest
>> shibboleths found in the liberal/left media
>> today. Dozens of times I had to correct the
>> SFCHRONICLE on this. I always began the
>> discussion by asking: "Did you take civics in high
>> school? Do you grasp the difference between the
>> Senate and the House?"
>>
>> c. McCarthy never participated in the Senate
>> Internal Security Subcommittee, the Senate
>> equivalent of the House Committees. He held
>> hearings through the Permanent Investigations
>> Subcommittee of the Senate Committee on
>> Governmental Operations.
>>
>> d. Bohm did appear before the House Committee. He
>> refused to answer questions about a Communist
>> functionary and KGB agent, Steve Nelson. His
>> motivation was a need to conceal his own
>> relationship with this individual.
>>
>> From another site:
>>
>> "In 1952, the young Princeton physicist [Bohm]
>> presented a "hidden variables" formulation of
>> quantum mechanics. For various reasons, none of
>> the formulations were good. Bohm and his work were
>> both dismissed from the university. J. Robert
>> Oppenheimer had been Bohm's mentor, but he,
>> perhaps, more than any other physicist, was
>> responsible for Bohm's being "buried alive,"
>> according to Ms. Goldstein. Oppenheimer has been
>> quoted as suggesting "if we cannot disprove Bohm,
>> then we must agree to ignore him."
>>
>> "Bohm was an embittered man, betrayed by the
>> physics community though Einstein had early on
>> declared Bohm his successor, added Ms. Goldstein.
>> Bohm spent a great deal of his life in obscurity,
>> spending his last years teaching night college in
>> London."
>>
>> Line above in bold is pure Stalinism. Many
>> websites out there reporting that Bohm was fired
>> from Princeton for refusing to testify against
>> Oppenheimer, when he was actually fired in a purge
>> by Oppenheimer of "Trotskyism in physics."
>>
>> The point of our book will be to clean all this
>> crap out of the minds of the scientific public.
>> Obviously, the title should be HIDDEN VARIABLES:
>> THE SECRET HISTORY OF PHYSICS AND POLITICS IN THE
>> 20TH CENTURY.
>>
>> Stephen Schwartz
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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The meeting today in Princeton on "Ultimate Reality" by the religious Templeton Foundation, who put their mouth where their money is, is based on John Archibald Wheeler's Bohr based vision that Bohm showed was not necessary. Wheeler is, nevertheless, a great physicist and Bohr made great errors but also had many important insights. Copenhagen boasts two great Fairy Tale writers, Hans Christian Anderson and Niels Bohr.
>
> "Jack Sarfatti, Ph.D." wrote:
>
>
> S-P & M-M Sirag wrote:
> Jack, I have put in a few corrections and clarifications. Please distribute
> this version.
>
> ----------
> From: "S-P & M-M Sirag " <sirag@...>
> To: sarfatti@...
> Subject: Re: HIDDEN VARIABLES: THE SECRET HISTORY OF PHYSICS AND POLITICS IN
> THE 20TH CENTURY.
> Date: Wed, Mar 13, 2002, 6:02 PM
>
>
>
>
> On Oppenheimer and Bohm: a reply to Stephen Schwartz
>
> Since the relationship between Oppenheimer and Bohm is central to your Hidden
> Variables history, you and Steve need to have the dates (and other items)
> straight. Steve's critique of the "popular" version of the story is largely
> correct. However, Steve says, "he [Bohm] was actually fired in a purge by
> Oppenheimer of 'Trotskyism in Physics'." But this implies that Bohm's
> anti-Copenhagen papers of 1952, were the cause of Oppenheimer's presumed
> actions against Bohm. The dates of the events suggest a very different
> picture.
>
> 1943 -- Oppenheimer reports to Captain DeSilva a list of "what persons at
> Berkeley were in his opinion truly dangerous. He named David Joseph Bohm and
> Bernard Peters as being so." (p. 150, *In the Matter of J. Robert
> Oppenheimer*, USAEC hearings of 1954, MIT Press, 1971 [herinafter called AEC
> hearings]). In this hearing, when DeSilva's memo is quoted, Oppenheimer
> denies having called Bohm a dangerous person (p. 151, of AEC hearings).
>
> March 1943 -- Oppenheimer asks for a transfer of Bohm from Berkeley to Los
> Alamos. The request is denied.
>
> 1943--Bohm recieves a PhD in physics from U.C. Berkeley. Oppenheimer was one
> of his professors.
>
> 1946 -- Oppenheimer helps Bohm get an appointment to Princeton Physics
> department as assistant professor. (AEC hearings, p. 151)
>
> May 1949 -- Bohm testifies before House Un-American Activities Committee. He
> invokes the 5th Amendment right to decline to testify when asked about
> Communist Party membership and activities. (AEC hearings, p. 152)
>
> 1949-1950 -- Bohm is asked by Princeton to take a leave of absence from
> teaching. However, he continues to receive his salary. He works on the book,
> *Quantum Theory*. He also talks to Einstein and shows him his manuscript of
> the book. Einstein declares that it is the clearest description of Borh's
> (Coopenhagen) interpretation of quantum theory. It contains a long section on
> the Einstein-Rosen-Podolsky thought experiment of 1935. Bohm recasts the
> experiment in terms of particle spin rather than position and momentum. This
> is a crucial change leading to the eventual work of John Bell, John Clauser,
> and Alain Aspect in testing deep aspects of quantum mechanics.
>
> 1950 -- Bohm's contract with Princeton is not renewed. He gets an appointment
> to Sao Paulo University in Brazil. Eugene Wigner, a very close friend of Von
> Neumann, (both very imaginative Copenhagenists, and very patriotic American
> immigrants from Hungary) hosts a going away party for Bohm.
>
> [Oppenheimer says that he had nothing to do with Bohm's getting the Sao Paulo
> position. But he said -- if asked to write a letter of reference for Bohm --
> "I am quite sure I would have written a letter of recommendation about his
> physics (AEC hearings, p. 152). Note that this is 2 years after Bohm published
> his anti-Copenhagen papers.]
>
> 1951 -- Bohm's *Quantum Theory* is published by Prentice Hall. He says in the
> preface, "An appreciable part of the material in this book was suggested by
> remarks made by Professor J.R. Oppenheimer in a series of lectures on quantum
> theory delivered at the University of California at Berkeley, and by notes on
> part of these lectures take by Professor B. Peters. A series of lectures by
> Niels Bohr, entitled 'Atomic Theory and the Description of Nature' were of
> crucial imortance in supplying the general philosophical basis needed for a
> rational understanding of quantum theory."
>
> [Remember that according the the AEC hearings (1954), Oppenheimer had reported
> to Captain DeSilva that both Bohm and Peters were "truly dangerous" persons.
> Further according to DeSilva's memo, "Oppenheimer stated, however, that
> somehow he did not believe that Bohm's temperment and personality were those
> of a dangerous person and implied that this dangerousness lay in the
> possibility of his being influenced by others. Peters, on the other hand, he
> described as a 'crazy person' and one whose actions would be unpredictable.
> He described Peters as being 'quite a Red' and stated that his background was
> filled with incidents which indicated his tendency toward direct action." In
> followup questioning, Oppenheimer denied ever having said that Bohm was
> dangerous. As Oppenheimer put it: "I recall the conversation, though I don't
> recall these as accurate words. I remember only being asked by DeSilva, among
> these people, and I think there were four, which do you think is the most
> dangerous, and saying Peters." (AEC hearings, p. 150)]
>
>
> BTW there is interesting information on the development of Bohm's
> anti-Copenhagen position in Max Jammer's book, *The Philosophy of Quantum
> Mechanics* (Wiley, 1974) on page 279. Jammer makes the same mistake about
> McCarthy and HUAC that Steve points to -- in fact this passage may be the
> source of some of these mistakes, since this book is the most detailed
> compendium on the philosophy of quantum theory. Jammer writes concerning
> Bohm's *Quantum Theory* book of 1951:
>
> "Still, on closer inspection, the critical reader of Bohm's book could not
> have failed to note that some explanations--in particular in the treatment of
> the process of measurement--did not fully reflect the spirit of Bohr's
> philosophy. Bohm sent copies to Einstein, Pauli, and Bohr. 'Einstein liked the
> book,' Pauli likewise expressed his appreciation, but Bohr remained silent!
>
> "At that time, as a result of the crusade launched by Senator Joseph Raymond
> McCarthy, chairman [sic] of the United States Congressional Committee on
> Un-American Acitivities, Bohm was suspended from his position. Taking
> advantage of his involuntary vacation, before leaving for the University of
> Sao Paulo in Brazil, he 'experimented with physical concepts,' as he later
> liked to call it. Stimulated by his discussions with Einstein and influenced
> by an essay which, as he told the present author, was 'written in English' and
> 'probably by Blokhintsev or some other Russian theorist like Terletzkii,' and
> which criticized Bohr's approach, Bohm began to study the possibility of
> introducing hidden variables. During the next few weeks he wrote a paper on
> his suggested interpretation of quantum mechanics, preprints of which he sent
> to his colleagues as well as to Pauli. Pauli rejected the paper, saying that
> it is 'old stuff, dealt with long ago.' Prompted by these remarks Bohm wrote a
> sequal paper in which he proposed a new theory of measurement in conformity
> with his hidden variable theory."
>
> [Reference: D.Bohm, "A suggested interpretation of the quantum theory in terms
> of 'hidden variables,' Parts I and II," *Physical Review* 85, 166-179; 180-193
> (1952); received July 5, 1951.]
>
> According to a footnote by Jammer, it is not clear which paper Bohm could have
> been referring to. However, Blokhinsev was definitely anti-Coopenhagen. On pp.
> 276-7 of Jammer's book, we read:
>
> "If Reichenbach regarded hidden variables as a logically possible, but
> physically inappropriate, assumption, Dimitry Ivanovich Blokhinzev of Moscow's
> Lomonosov State University considered it an open question to be decided by
> future research. In a paper published in Russian but soon translated into
> French and German, in which he severly criticized the 'subjective-idealistic
> conceptions' of the Copenhagen school, he also referred to von Neumann's
> proof [of the incompatibility of hidden variables with quantum mechanics],
> calling it 'not satisfactory' since it is based on the formalism of quantum
> mechanics. In his view a consistent hidden variable theory may be established
> only if these variables are not accommodated within the usual formalism of
> quantum mechanics."
>
> Apparently Blokhinzev's anti-Copenhagen views were widely held within the
> Soviet Union. However, there were other eminent Soviet physicists who
> supported Bohr's views--for example, Vladimir Foch and Lev Landau (who in fact
> spent some time at Bohr's institute).
>
> Bohm's career after Princeton:
>
> 1950-1955 -- University of Sao Paulo, where he was visited by J.-P. Vigier and
> Richard. Feynman.
>
> 1954 &1957 -- 2 papers by Bohm and Vigier resulted from this visit:
> "Model of the Causal Interpretation of Quantum Theory in Terms of a Fluid with
> Irregular Fluctuations," Physical Review 96:1, 208-217 (1954).
> "Relativistic Hydrodynamics of Rotating Fluid Masses," Physical Review 109:6,
> 1882-1891 (1957).
> [Both of these papers are reprinted in the collection, *Jean-Pierre Vigier and
> the Stochastic Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics* edited by Stanley Jeffers,
> Bo Lehnert, Nils Abramson, and Lev Chebotarev, Apeiron, Montreal, 2000.]
All these people visited ISSO Science funded by Joe Firmage who is now essentially bankrupt.
ISSO Science still lives on in my and Saul-Paul Sirag's theoretical work and in Creon Levit's experimental work.
>
> 1955-1957 -- Haifa Institute of Technology, Israel, where he began writing
> papers with Yakir Aharonov.
>
> 1957 -- *Causality and Chance in Modern Physics* (published by Routledge &
> Kegan Paul)
>
> 1957-1961 -- Bristol University, UK, where with Aharonov he wrote the seminal
> Aharonov-Bohm effect paper, Physical Review 115, 485 (1959).
>
> 1961-1983 -- Birkbeck College, University of London, where Bohm wrote a series
> of papers with Basil Hiley, culminating in the book, *The Undivided Universe:
> an Ontological Interpretation of Quantum Theory* published in 1993 after his
> death in 1992.
>
> 1964 -- John Stewart Bell, publishes his theorem building on the work of Bohm
> and leading to the laboratory experiments of Clauser, Aspect, etc. (This paper
> and Bohm's 1952 papers and many other relevant papers are collected in
> *Quantum Theory and Measurement* edited by Wheeler and Zurek (Princeton,
> 1983). J.S. Bell was a strong supporter of Bohm's anti-Copenhagenism, and
> his papers are collected in *Speakable and Unspeakable in Quantum Mechanics*
> (Cambridge, 1987).
>
> In 1961 Bohm met Krishnamerti and became an active supporter of his teachings.
> This is reflected in some of his more mystical writings, such as *Wholeness
> and the Implicate Order* (RKP, 1980).
>
> [Note: In 1979 Saral Bohm told me that in 1961 in a London bookstore she had
> come across a book by Krishnamurti, called *The Observer and the Observed*,
> and showed it to David. They subsequently discovered that Krishnmurti lived in
> London, and that this helped David to decide to take the offer of a position
> at Birkbeck College rather than a rival offer of a position in Paris. I would
> guess that this latter offer was made by J.-P. Vigier.]
>
> In 1987 a festshrift for Bohm's 70th birthday was published, *Quantum
> Implications*, edited by B.J. Hiley and F. David Peat. There are two papers by
> Bohm himself as well as an introductory chapter on Bohm's life and work. In
> that chapter there is a two paragraph description of Bohm's political
> difficulties:
>
> "It was while writing this book [*Quantum Theory*] that he came into conflict
> with what eventually became known as McCarthyism. A year or so after arriving
> at Princeton he was called to appear befor the Un-American Activities
> Committee, a committee of the House of Representatives. He as asked to testify
> against colleagues and associates. After taking legal advice he decided to
> plead the Fifth Amendment. A year or so later, while he was in the middle of
> his book, his plea was rejected and he was indicted for contempt of Congress.
> While awaiting trial, the Supreme Court ruled that no one should be forced to
> testify if the testimony is self-incriminating, provided no crime had been
> committed. Since no crime had been committed the indictment against Bohm was
> dropped.
> "During this period the University advised Bohm to stay away, on of the few
> benefits to emerge from this whole sordid affair. During his enforced
> isolation he was able to complete the book far sooner than he had anticipated.
> After that, however, with his contract at Princeton expired, he was unable to
> obtain a job in the USA and was advised by Oppenheimer to leave the country
> before the full force of McCarthyism took effect. Fortunately he had some
> friends in Brazil whe were able to offer him a professorship in the University
> in Sao Paulo. He held this post from 1951 to 1955."
>
> Note that in 1950, Oppenheimer had no reason to try to "disprove Bohm" since
> the book Bohm was working on was largely based on Oppenheimer's own Berkeley
> lectures, as well as Bohr's writings--and so was considered as a strong, and
> clear, Copenhagenist textbook.
>
> All for now.
>
> Saul-Paul (March 13, 2002, on the eve of Einstein's 123rd birthday)
>
> ----------
> From: Jack Sarfatti <sarfatti@...>
> To: Paul Zielinski <pzielins@...>, Jack Sarfatti <sarfatti@...>
> Subject: HIDDEN VARIABLES: THE SECRET HISTORY OF PHYSICS AND POLITICS IN THE
> 20TH CENTURY.
> Date: Wed, Mar 13, 2002, 9:40 AM
>
>
>
>
> From a website article:
>
> "David Bohm: Princeton University; Fellow of the Royal Society of London; a
> former student of Oppenheimer. Bohm declined to testify at Oppenheimer's
> hearing before Senator Joseph McCarthy's House Un-American Activities
> Committee in the 1950s for fear that his words might be twisted against his
> former mentor and he emigrated to England."
>
> 1. Bohm did not "decline to testify at Oppenheimer's hearing before Senator
> Joseph McCarthy's House Un-American Activities Committee in the 1950s."
>
> a. No such hearings took place. Oppenheimer hearings were held by the AEC.
> Bohm was not called as a witness.
>
> b. Senators do not lead or sit on House committees. This is one of the
> commonest shibboleths found in the liberal/left media today. Dozens of times
> I had to correct the SFCHRONICLE on this. I always began the discussion by
> asking: "Did you take civics in high school? Do you grasp the difference
> between the Senate and the House?"
>
> c. McCarthy never participated in the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee,
> the Senate equivalent of the House Committees. He held hearings through the
> Permanent Investigations Subcommittee of the Senate Committee on Governmental
> Operations.
>
> d. Bohm did appear before the House Committee. He refused to answer questions
> about a Communist functionary and KGB agent, Steve Nelson. His motivation was
> a need to conceal his own relationship with this individual.
>
> From another site:
>
> "In 1952, the young Princeton physicist [Bohm] presented a "hidden variables"
> formulation of quantum mechanics. For various reasons, none of the
> formulations were good. Bohm and his work were both dismissed from the
> university. J. Robert Oppenheimer had been Bohm's mentor, but he, perhaps,
> more than any other physicist, was responsible for Bohm's being "buried
> alive," according to Ms. Goldstein. Oppenheimer has been quoted as suggesting
> "if we cannot disprove Bohm, then we must agree to ignore him."
>
> "Bohm was an embittered man, betrayed by the physics community though
> Einstein had early on declared Bohm his successor, added Ms. Goldstein. Bohm
> spent a great deal of his life in obscurity, spending his last years teaching
> night college in London."
>
> Line above in bold is pure Stalinism. Many websites out there reporting that
> Bohm was fired from Princeton for refusing to testify against Oppenheimer,
> when he was actually fired in a purge by Oppenheimer of "Trotskyism in
> physics."
>
> The point of our book will be to clean all this crap out of the minds of the
> scientific public. Obviously, the title should be HIDDEN VARIABLES: THE
> SECRET HISTORY OF PHYSICS AND POLITICS IN THE 20TH CENTURY.
>
> Stephen Schwartz
>
>
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