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I just got this email today (see below), and nothing looks quite right
to me.  But I might have missed something.  I assume somebody here
might know.

Charles



We share the ICG-D group. I want to add you as a friend in Grouply so
you can see my profile with my pictures, my groups, and my favorite
group messages.

Here is the link:
http://www.grouply.com/register?r=3103037&vt=73002805 .

j

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Block Grouply Invites | Mark as SPAM
To block all emails from Grouply, click here or send an email to
blocklist@... with subject
"unsubscribe-Lj0Lhy9Za8rQkrsMCLMFDYJ3rmqtAQ%3D%3D".
Grouply, 495 Seaport Court, Suite 103, Redwood City, CA  94063

cgalway@... wrote:
> I just got this email today (see below), and nothing looks quite right
> to me.  But I might have missed something.  I assume somebody here
> might know.
>

It's not a phish, but don't answer it. Grouply is a legitimate service,
but it does seriously compromise the security of private yahoogroups
(yeah, this is a public group, so that's not a real issue) by
republishing group messages and it spams the other subscribers of
yahoogroups when someone subscribes.

I request that <rubberpike@...> be unsubscribed and banned from
the ICG-D group for adding our group to Grouply.

andy

I received it, too. It's what you think it is. *DELETE*

Kate McClure

________________________________

From: ICG-D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ICG-D@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
cgalway@...
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 4:45 PM
To: ICG-D@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ICG-D] spam-phish?





I just got this email today (see below), and nothing looks quite right
to me. But I might have missed something. I assume somebody here
might know.

Charles

We share the ICG-D group. I want to add you as a friend in Grouply so
you can see my profile with my pictures, my groups, and my favorite
group messages.

Here is the link:
http://www.grouply.com/register?r=3103037&vt=73002805
<http://www.grouply.com/register?r=3103037&vt=73002805>  .

j

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Block Grouply Invites | Mark as SPAM
To block all emails from Grouply, click here or send an email to
blocklist@... <mailto:blocklist%40grouply.com>  with subject
"unsubscribe-Lj0Lhy9Za8rQkrsMCLMFDYJ3rmqtAQ%3D%3D".
Grouply, 495 Seaport Court, Suite 103, Redwood City, CA 94063






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At 04:49 PM 5/4/2009, Andrew Trembley wrote:
>I request that <rubberpike@...> be unsubscribed and banned from
>the ICG-D group for adding our group to Grouply.
>
>andy

Isn't that a little harsh without even asking for an explanation?

He may not even be aware of the spam invite. After all, it is not
like there is anyone on this list who is so perfect that they have
never made a mistake before.

Stephanie






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>Yahoo! Groups Links
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>

To be fair... all but one mod has been a bit busy at CC, and we're all just
barely getting home. While the hotel did/does have free wifi, that doesn't mean
anyone has much time to use it. And our chief mod (Ann) has been quite
pre-occupied all weekend as a Historic Judge.

what I can tell you about the offender is that they only just joined May 3, the
address is out of UK (whether it is a legit address or a faked one, I couldn't
say). I think we all got the grouply spam, and I found a request in the pending
box about listing all said person's grouply groups. I deleted it. As Andy said:
grouply is a legit service which in theory is great, but in reality is very
risky for anyone who joins, and any of their friends they email/spam and any
group that gets caught into it.

          -Judy Mitchell

--- In ICG-D@yahoogroups.com, Stephanie L Bannon <laetitia@...> wrote:
>
> At 04:49 PM 5/4/2009, Andrew Trembley wrote:
> >I request that <rubberpike@...> be unsubscribed and banned from
> >the ICG-D group for adding our group to Grouply.
> >
> >andy
>
> Isn't that a little harsh without even asking for an explanation?
>
> He may not even be aware of the spam invite. After all, it is not
> like there is anyone on this list who is so perfect that they have
> never made a mistake before.
>
> Stephanie
>
>
>
>
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> >------------------------------------
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

I have not even had time to download my photos, and some people already have
reports and photos up:
http://conventionfans.today.com/2009/05/04/costume-con-27-convention-report/
http://community.livejournal.com/steamfashion/1729244.html

I had a great time at CC27!

-Mary Alice

I just got this one, and rather than reply to it to decline,, I just
del;eted it.  I don't join this stuff and I do not doubt it is very
wrong.

Yours inc ostumign, Lisa A>

On Mon, 04 May 2009 17:44:43 -0600 cgalway@... writes:
> I just got this email today (see below), and nothing looks quite
> right
> to me.  But I might have missed something.  I assume somebody here
>
> might know.
>
> Charles
>
>
>
> We share the ICG-D group. I want to add you as a friend in Grouply
> so
> you can see my profile with my pictures, my groups, and my favorite
>
> group messages.
>
> Here is the link:
> http://www.grouply.com/register?r=3103037&vt=73002805 .
>
> j
>
> ====================
>
> Block Grouply Invites | Mark as SPAM
> To block all emails from Grouply, click here or send an email to
> blocklist@... with subject
> "unsubscribe-Lj0Lhy9Za8rQkrsMCLMFDYJ3rmqtAQ%3D%3D".
> Grouply, 495 Seaport Court, Suite 103, Redwood City, CA  94063
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

No it is NOT harsh.  There isn't NEARLY enough explanation given by the
originator to  ligitimate his/her request.  It is clearly an invitation
to disaster.

Yours in costuming, L;isa A.

On Mon, 04 May 2009 17:23:00 -0700 Stephanie L Bannon
<laetitia@...> writes:
> At 04:49 PM 5/4/2009, Andrew Trembley wrote:
> >I request that <rubberpike@...> be unsubscribed and banned
> from
> >the ICG-D group for adding our group to Grouply.
> >
> >andy
>
> Isn't that a little harsh without even asking for an explanation?
>
> He may not even be aware of the spam invite. After all, it is not
> like there is anyone on this list who is so perfect that they have
> never made a mistake before.
>
> Stephanie
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
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>
>
>

--- In ICG-D@yahoogroups.com, "rookwoods" <judymitch@...> wrote:
>
> To be fair... all but one mod has been a bit busy at CC, and we're all just
barely getting home. While the hotel did/does have free wifi, that doesn't mean
anyone has much time to use it. And our chief mod (Ann) has been quite
pre-occupied all weekend as a Historic Judge.
>

Stop trying to make me feel guilty about stepping down, dammit. :)

Link:
http://conventionfans.today.com/2009/05/04/costume-con-27-convention-report/


Marty

Hi -



We ended up with a small pair of orange handled scissors after the Historical
Masquerade.  We think that Gypsy got them for us, but don't know who she might
have borrowed them from for us.  If they're yours, send us and address and we
will return them.



Thanks -



Trudy

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Marty- that is a wonderful review- and completely accurate and well deserved
too!  Yays to ALL of you who worked so hard at putting on such a great
convention this year!

JoAnn in VA



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mysite.verizon.net/drgandalf/CC27DVD.pdf

I received it too. My e-mail software sent it straight to the spam  filter.

Randall


In a message dated 5/5/2009 11:07:15 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
lisa58@... writes:





I just got this one, and rather than reply to it to decline,, I  just
del;eted it. I don't join this stuff and I do not doubt it is  very
wrong.

Yours inc ostumign, Lisa A>

On Mon, 04 May  2009 17:44:43 -0600 _cgalway@..._
(mailto:cgalway@...)   writes:
> I just got this email today (see below), and nothing looks  quite
> right
> to me. But I might have missed something. I  assume somebody here
>
> might know.
>
>  Charles
>
>
>
> We share the ICG-D group. I want to  add you as a friend in Grouply
> so
> you can see my profile  with my pictures, my groups, and my favorite
>
> group  messages.
>
> Here is the link:
> _http://www.grouply.http://www.grhttp://ww&<WBR>vt=730_
(http://www.grouply.com/register?r=3103037&vt=73002805)   .
>
> j
>
> ============ =======
>
> Block Grouply Invites | Mark as SPAM
> To block all emails from  Grouply, click here or send an email to
> _blocklist@..._ (mailto:blocklist@...)  with  subject
>  "unsubscribe-  "unsubscrib  "unsubscri  "u
>  Grouply, 495 Seaport Court, Suite 103, Redwood City, CA 94063
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  ------------  ----  ----  -
>
> Yahoo!  Groups Links
>
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At Costumecon, Pierre Pettinger said that he'd sent me an email, but I don't
seem to have received it, and don't have his eddy. Helloooo?

Had a great time at the con, by the way. Good job all around. Special kudos to
the tech crew.

Devra




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Gentlebeings:


> I received it too. My e-mail software sent it straight to the spam filter.


     Same here.  At least it's not from a prince in exile.



Peace

Alixandra

eddana1@...

eddanatobias@...

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Does anyone have a list of the judges and the winners of the various
competitions at CostumeCon 27?

--Radar

I'll see what I can do - I was one of the historical judges.

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Jennifer <jenniferwylie@...> wrote:

> Does anyone have a list of the judges and the winners of the various
> competitions at CostumeCon 27?
>
> --Radar
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
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--
Carolyn Kayta Barrows
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Blank paper is God's way of saying it ain't so easy being God.
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Where can we order the still pictures?  Is there a site where we can look at
these?

--
Carolyn Kayta Barrows
--
Blank paper is God's way of saying it ain't so easy being God.
--


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Have any other costumers heard about or experienced this problemÉ
 
My niece in Winnipeg, who participates in historical re-enactments for The
 
 
 
I would be interested to know if any other historical re-enactment groups are
experiencing problems with have items stolen from their sites and displays.
 





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Have any other costumers heard about or experienced this problemÉ
 
My niece in Winnipeg, who participates in historical re-enactments for The
Festival
 
 
 
I would be interested to know if any other historical re-enactment groups are
experiencing problems with have items stolen from their sites and displays.
 





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Have any other costumers heard about or experienced this problemÉ
 
My niece in Winnipeg, who participates in historical re-enactments for The
Festival du
 
 
 
I would be interested to know if any other historical re-enactment groups are
experiencing problems with have items stolen from their sites and displays.
 





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Oh heck yeah.

There is a reason our group had a fence around our encampment and
escorted all visitors when they were invited in.

JohnO

Barb Schofield wrote:
>
> Have any other costumers heard about or experienced this problem
>
> My niece in Winnipeg, who participates in historical re-enactments for
> The Festival du
>
> I would be interested to know if any other historical re-enactment
> groups are experiencing problems with have items stolen from their sites
> and displays.

Sorry about the partial message.  My computer keyboard had a temporary fit.
 
Correct message below:
 
Have any other costumers heard about or experienced this.
 
My niece, who participates in historical re-enactments at The Festival du
Voyageur in Winnipeg, has told me that they are experiencing a lot of problems
of theft of their  items used in demonstrations.  One example was a carpenter
who had some of his tools stolen while demonstrating historical woodworking
techniques.  These tools are either valuable historical items or expensive
reproductions.  They are now considering that if everything must be put in cases
to prevent theft, how do they demonstrate anything.
 
Apparently this Feb was the first year this has ever been a problem, and they
are wondering if it has something to do with the depressed economy.  I think it
may have something to do with the fact that almost anything can be sold on line.
 
Appreciate any thoughts on this.
 
Barb
 


 



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I know SCA'ers who have had their armor stolen from the beds of their
trucks.  I feel that dealing with the public in any environment, you
need to keep an eagle eye on everything.  I lost most of my Future
Fashion Folios while having them on display at guild tables at local
cons (I have since been able to replace them all).  People seem to
think they're catalogs of costumes they can order.  It's been a while
since I've done a guild table, but I stop putting things out that
people would probably walk away with.

Bruno

More photo links and comments here:
http://www.cosplay.com/forumdisplay.php?f=133

--- In ICG-D@yahoogroups.com, "maladd" wrote:
>
> I have not even had time to download my photos, and some people already have
reports and photos up:
> http://conventionfans.today.com/2009/05/04/costume-con-27-convention-report/
> http://community.livejournal.com/steamfashion/1729244.html
>
> I had a great time at CC27!
>
> -Mary Alice

At 07:51 AM 5/5/2009, Lisa A Ashton wrote:
>No it is NOT harsh.  There isn't NEARLY enough explanation given by the
>originator to  ligitimate his/her request.  It is clearly an invitation
>to disaster.

Actually I believe you will find that once someone joins Grouply,
which touts itself as a way to read all your groups in one place
on-line thus making it attractive to people who are on Yahoo and
G-groups and lords knows what else and read on-line, that Grouply
itself sends out the automated invite to all your groups unless you
find something in the small fine print to decline it.

At least, that is the explanation given on a few other groups where
the person in whose name the invite was sent was just as surprised at
it popping up as anyone else.  *shrug*

Of course, your tolerance for people making innocent mistakes may be
much less than mine as people vary..... I've never been a big fan of
the "one strike you are out and no we won't even let you explain"
attitude, particularly since it is so unevenly applied. We all know
that if the invite had come from one of the regular posters the
assumption would have been a mistake and a ban never would even have
been thought of, much less suggested and the condemnation is mostly
because this was not a long term member or someone who is know
personally to you all *shrug*

Stephanie


>Yours in costuming, L;isa A.
>
>On Mon, 04 May 2009 17:23:00 -0700 Stephanie L Bannon
><laetitia@...> writes:
> > At 04:49 PM 5/4/2009, Andrew Trembley wrote:
> > >I request that <rubberpike@...> be unsubscribed and banned
> > from
> > >the ICG-D group for adding our group to Grouply.
> > >
> > >andy
> >
> > Isn't that a little harsh without even asking for an explanation?
> >
> > He may not even be aware of the spam invite. After all, it is not
> > like there is anyone on this list who is so perfect that they have
> > never made a mistake before.
> >
> > Stephanie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >------------------------------------
> > >
> > >Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Because I have/had a really rocking clerk, I can give this to you! (Jan, you da
bomb!!!)

There were 23 entries! Of which  we had 11 Novices, 5 Journeymen, and 7 Masters.
The judges were Ann Catelli, Kayta Barrows & Sue Toker, with Jan Price as
Judge's Clerk Extraordinaire. What a show!!
  -Judy Mitchell (Director)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
In the NOVICE Division:

For DOCUMENTATION-

Best in Class
Leigh Alexander
"Diamond Fairy"

For WORKMANSHIP-

Best Supporting Role for Underpinnings
Jamila Sisco
"Newly Into Money: Lady on the Town"

Exceptional Wig Craft
Pretice Beckett
"Miss Gideon's Moment" and "A Hunting We Will Go"

Excellence in Beading
Sarah Skinner
"Salome's Sins"

Excellence in Fork Pleating
Morgan Hatfield
"The Winter Evening Affair"

Excellence in Couching
Elizabeth Caldwell
"Eleanor of Toledo"

For PRESENTATION-

Best in Class
Stephanie Pool
"Madame Guillotine"

Honorable Mention - "Good Catch"
Gaia Eirich
"Miss Gideon's Moment"

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
In the JOURNEYMAN Division:

For WORKMANSHIP-

Best in Class
Anne-Marie Morin-Berard, Lucie Fontaine, Maxime Pinard
"Where's Watson?"

Best Costuming for the Theater
Bethany Padron
"English Court Dress"

Excellence in Hand Detailing
Ellen Sheffield Wilds
"Betsy and Tacy"

Excellence in Cascade Pleating
Tarisa Walker
"A Longing Glance"

For PRESENTATION-

Best in Class
Anne-Marie Morin-Berard, Lucie Fontaine, Maxime Pinard
"Where's Watson?"

Best Period Manners
Tarisa Walker
"A Longing Glance"

Best Characterizations
Erin and Katherine Delaney
"Betsy and Tacy"
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

In the MASTER Division:

For DOCUMENTATION

Honorable Mention
Patricia Anne Buard
"Christian Dior for Vogue Patterns, 1959"


For WORKMANSHIP

We Like Your Pants
Michael Bruno
"The Beautiful People"

Exceptional Frills and Furbelows
Katherine Caron-Greig
"A Walk in the Park, 1869"

For Her "Bonney" Coat
Chrism Kronick
"The Killer Bs"


For PRESENTATION

Most Compelling
Jennifer Lima
"Anne, Uncrowned"

Best in Class
Clair Whitworth, Trudy Leonard, Fiona Leonard, Chrism Kronick, Caran Wilbanks,
Bill Kronick
"Killer Bs"
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

BEST IN SHOW (Tie)
Patricia Anne Buard
"Christian Dior for Vogue Patterns, 1959"

Leigh Alexander
"Diamond Fairy"

BEST IN SHOW - DOCUMENTATION
Sandy Swank
"Notes on America's Favorite Pastime"

Here Are the Quilt Contest winners:

Best Non-Traditional Quilt:  "Snow Bound"  Jacqui Ward
Best Recycled and Traditional Pieced Quilt: "The Shirt Off His Back"
Vicki Warren
We Hate You We Hate You We Hate You Award for Technical Proficency and
Amazing Draftsmanship:  "The Hedge Maze"  Roger Murray
Bobby Gear Memorial Quilt Award:  "Windows on Costume Con"  Jacqui Ward
Best In Show/Best Body of Work/ How are we supposed to choose between
these 4 amazing quilts?:  Diane Kovalcin
I would also like to thank ALL of our quilters who entered.  It was
tremendously gratifying that, knowing how busy you all were putting
together complex competition and hall costumes, and preparing for your
panels, workshops and demos, that you still took the time to make an
extra something, to honor one of ours in this way.  Bobby would have been
moved to tears, I know--and also very proud of you.  I know that for
some, it was a first quilt attempt.  It was a lovely display, and is
being put into a slide who as we speak!!

Look forward to seeing at least some of you at Worldcon, and thank you
again for a marvelous exhibit/contest.  Thanks also to JoAnn Abbott, who
stepped in almost at the last moment to judge our entries.  There was an
award for the Best in Show entry, generously donated by Vicki Warren.
It's my fault that I forgot to bring it to hte con (I probably would have
forgotten to give it to the winner), but it will be mailed soon.

Yours in costuming, Lisa a>

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