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Having theme material from the archives available for costume panels is an
excellent idea, and would greatly assist and enhance costume panels.  Panels
showing slides and video of costumes have always been popular, even with
non-costumers.

   Costuming is a visual medium.  We are buying a projector to use at both our
Creative Costumer's Network gatherings, and for panels at conventions, to show
both slides and video of masquerades.  For example, at The Creative Costumer's
Convention at Polaris in July, we are using the 18th century as a theme for
historical panels, and putting up a display of both historical and SF/F costumes
that use 18th century design lines.  A slide show of costumes to tie in with
this would be a popular panel, or a part of the costume display.

   Something I have seen done at worldcons in the early 1980's, was to set up a
slide show beside the costume exhibits.  This showed the costumes on people as
well as on the display manikins.

   Last year at Polaris, we set up a screen and projector to show clips from our
previous masquerades, as part of the exhibits.  In the past we have also set up
TVs to show masqurade videos at the masquerade desk.  With the new flat screen
TVs this becomes even easier to do.

   Regarding the questions below:

   1. Yes.

   2. Yes.

   3. 50 minutes for a panel, or 5 minutes for a looping clip on a permanent
display as part of a costume exhibit.

   4. Yes.

   5. Yes, see comments above.

   6.  Themes to tie in with panels and exhibits, almost unlimited number of
ideas for this use.

   Barb


Bruce & Nora Mai <casamai@...> wrote:
           As we get the Archive holdings organized, we are beginning to think in
ways
that we can make them more available to the membership (and for that matter,
a wider audience as a way to promote the Guild). In order to do this the
most effectively and interestingly, please take the time to answer the
questions below. (It doesn't matter if you're a member or not.)

1. Would you attend a panel or presentation of some of the contents of the
Archives?

2. Would you be interested in a "slideshow" of photos or video clips of
presentations?

3. How long would you be willing to sit watching one of these
presentations?

4. Would you be interested in viewing older (10 + years) costume examples,
or more recent ones ?

5. Would you be more interested in viewing images arranged in a theme (all
costumes with wings, best examples of dragon costumes, best novices, etc.),
or view all the costumes from a particular event?

6. If you would prefer thematic presentations, what themes would you like
to see?

We look forward to your answers, and any other thoughts you may have.

Bruce Mai
Assistant Archivist






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Just received a link for twisted balloon fashions.  For anyone interested in the
bizarre costumes that can be made with balloons check out the following:

   http://www.secondose.com/twisted-balloons-fashion/


   Barb


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? Nuclear Steam Punk....
Vicki
yes it's what I do to pay for costuming.
   -----Original Message-----
   From: ICG-D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ICG-D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
Bruce & Nora Mai
   Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:59 AM
   To: ICG-D@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [ICG-D] Superfluous goggles and persona discussions


   I think my original statement was misinterpreted. I didn't' say goggles
   wouldn't be appropriate so long as they were applied to your profession.
   What I was addressing was the number of photos I've seen of young ladies
   wearing basically frilly stuff and a bowler and calling it "Steampunk".
   There comes a point where one is just stretching belief a little to far to
   justify some things.

   What I keep noticing (primarly on Steam Fashion) is a rather slapdash
   approach - there's a percentage of people who just thorw things together
   because they think they're cool - they just wind up with a hodgepodge of
   ideas that don't' hang together as a theme at all.

   I rather liked some of Bill's ideas for non-tech/tech Steampunk
   personae(sp?) - there are some really fascinating corners one could
explore
   with some of them. I forget if it was specifically commented here, but
Nora
   pointed out that for our group that is coming together, it's easier to
base
   at least some persona elements on our own real personalities and
vocations.

   Bruce






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Dear Barb:

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and you said everything I was thinking about and more.  Thank you.

Peace
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birthday on Monday last. He is also now six foot, six two in his runners, and
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Previously sent under incorrect subject line.  Apologies to Bruce Mai.

   The following is for anyone  who wants to see more balloon costumes.

   Barb

Barb Schofield <wilberforcebarb@...> wrote:

Just received a link for twisted balloon fashions. For anyone interested in the
bizarre costumes that can be made with balloons check out the following:

http://www.secondose.com/twisted-balloons-fashion/


Barb

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Hello fellow costumers!

I've just joined the list. I love making costumes! I've done theater,
dance, film. I am currently making custom wedding gowns--Lots of silk!!

I am teaching a theater arts class to elementary school students. We
are making the costumes and props for a production of Alice in
Wonderland.

I would like to coat foam rubber enough to seal it to paint. It needs
to be non toxic and inexpensive. I've used Sculpt-or-Coat in the past.
I was thinking latex-based wallpaper paste, or white glue.

Covering the costumes (mostly cards) with white lycra may be the most
inexpensive treatment.

I would love some suggestions!

Kari -
White glue would probably work, but how about Gesso?  Dick Blick has
their house brand for $23.19 a gallon qty 1 and might have abetter price
for schools.

Marty

kari perkins wrote:
>
> Hello fellow costumers!
>
> I've just joined the list. I love making costumes! I've done theater,
> dance, film. I am currently making custom wedding gowns--Lots of silk!!
>
> I am teaching a theater arts class to elementary school students. We
> are making the costumes and props for a production of Alice in
> Wonderland.
>
> I would like to coat foam rubber enough to seal it to paint. It needs
> to be non toxic and inexpensive. I've used Sculpt-or-Coat in the past.
> I was thinking latex-based wallpaper paste, or white glue.
>
> Covering the costumes (mostly cards) with white lycra may be the most
> inexpensive treatment.
>
> I would love some suggestions!
>
>
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Hmmmmm, I didn't see a reply to your request on the list, so......

I have used fahsionfabricsclub.com.  The generally deliver within the week
and they have a lot of low cost fabrics with good descriptions and
pictures.  But don't have your heart set on having the exact color you want
when ordering anything online.  No matter how good the picture, the shade
can always be a little off.

A cast of 60???  I would seriously consider checking out thrift stores for
things that can be modified to be made to look like they came from the
1930's just o save time and expense.  A lot of shirts and pants and some
dresses can be made to look from that era with little work.




At 07:14 PM 2/28/2008 +0000, you wrote:
>I am currently costuming a high school show - cast of 60 - small
>budget but want period costumes so construction is the direction.
>(1930's)  I was wondering if you had any suggestions of RELIABLE and
>relatively Reasonable sources of Fabric On Line.

========================================
The United States is a secular nation.
   -- Anne Davenport      kjaneway@...

Thanks! I'll give it a try.

Martin Gear <MartinGear@...> wrote:                               Kari -
  White glue would probably work, but how about Gesso?  Dick Blick has
  their house brand for $23.19 a gallon qty 1 and might have abetter price
  for schools.

  Marty

  kari perkins wrote:
  >
  > Hello fellow costumers!
  >
  > I've just joined the list. I love making costumes! I've done theater,
  > dance, film. I am currently making custom wedding gowns--Lots of silk!!
  >
  > I am teaching a theater arts class to elementary school students. We
  > are making the costumes and props for a production of Alice in
  > Wonderland.
  >
  > I would like to coat foam rubber enough to seal it to paint. It needs
  > to be non toxic and inexpensive. I've used Sculpt-or-Coat in the past.
  > I was thinking latex-based wallpaper paste, or white glue.
  >
  > Covering the costumes (mostly cards) with white lycra may be the most
  > inexpensive treatment.
  >
  > I would love some suggestions!
  >
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Kari Perkins
Estrella Bridal Art
Austin, Texas

www.estrellabridal.com
512-689-8835



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If these are "cards", using foam core boards (which are light) or
cardboard sounds easiest. They won't be flexible though.  However a foam
core board is already a white colored.  You probably want to add a
backing/support to protect it from damage (corrugated cardboard (or the
lighter/plastic corrugate cardboard))  come to mind.



If you are using foam rubber because it is flexible but light then you
may have to experiment. Many gessos will coat but  crack if bent.  There
are mediums/acrylic paints that may work, but coating the foam will
weigh things down a lot.  There are some acrylic based spray paints for
both undercoats.  You can then spray more acrylic paint in desired
colors over it.  You will not have a smooth/flat surface, but that might
not show at a distance.



Some Lycra might not be that cheap but there are often cheap/stretchy
fabrics available in the dollar-a-yard bins if you are going for
flexible. Any cheap cloth that you can paint on and then glue onto the
foam might work.



Good luck!



Susan

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From: ICG-D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ICG-D@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
kari perkins
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 9:53 AM
To: ICG-D@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ICG-D] coating foam costumes



Hello fellow costumers!

I've just joined the list. I love making costumes! I've done theater,
dance, film. I am currently making custom wedding gowns--Lots of silk!!

I am teaching a theater arts class to elementary school students. We
are making the costumes and props for a production of Alice in
Wonderland.

I would like to coat foam rubber enough to seal it to paint. It needs
to be non toxic and inexpensive. I've used Sculpt-or-Coat in the past.
I was thinking latex-based wallpaper paste, or white glue.

Covering the costumes (mostly cards) with white lycra may be the most
inexpensive treatment.

I would love some suggestions!





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Kari,

Please keep us posted.  So far, Sculpt-or-coat is what I have found
works.  Of course, it does cost, which is why you are looking for
something else.  The problem is that it was designed for the very needs
you have.

If you come up with a functional alternative, I would love to know.

Thanks,
Dana





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     Hello fellow costumers!

     I've just joined the list. I love making costumes! I've done theater,
     dance, film. I am currently making custom wedding gowns--Lots of silk!!

     I am teaching a theater arts class to elementary school students. We
     are making the costumes and props for a production of Alice in
     Wonderland.

     I would like to coat foam rubber enough to seal it to paint. It needs
     to be non toxic and inexpensive. I've used Sculpt-or-Coat in the past.
     I was thinking latex-based wallpaper paste, or white glue.

     Covering the costumes (mostly cards) with white lycra may be the most
     inexpensive treatment.

     I would love some suggestions!

Tonight is the final and I think one out of the three designers who
made it should be there.

This was one weird Project Runway and some of the judges choices had
me almost throwing things at the TV.

What was y'all's opinion and who do you think will win?

I think Chris would have gone to the final over Rami.  He would have
put on a much better show.  However, as Christian and Chris were both
doing a "dark gothic" line, I think the went with Rami for something
different.  I think it will be a toss up between Christian and the
girl (just blanked on her name).  He's done consistently well and she
really came into her own near the end.

There is a disclaimer at the end of the show that the judges decisions
are not solely based on scores and other factors are taken into
account.  They're basically casting a show every week and need to
continue having a good show.


Bruno


Quoting puppetmaker36 <puppetmaker@...>:

> Tonight is the final and I think one out of the three designers who
> made it should be there.
>
> This was one weird Project Runway and some of the judges choices had
> me almost throwing things at the TV.
>
> What was y'all's opinion and who do you think will win?
>
>

Her name is Jillian.  My name, by the way, isn't.  It's just close.

I think she should win.  She didn't make much drama over the course of
the show, but her designs were good to excellent.

This year was marked by the contestants pretty much liking each
other.  Not good TV for the masses.  But, good vibes all around for
the designers.

Smiles,

Jill

On Mar 5, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Bruno wrote:

   I think it will be a toss up between Christian and the
girl (just blanked on her name). He's done consistently well and she
really came into her own near the end.

Well, I am still a Chris fan even if he didn't win.  He did some
wonderful pieces in at least 4 of the challenges that would, arguably
have beaten the chosen winner.  I was surprised at the collection he did
(I looked at it after he was Auft) and I had not expected him to go so
dark, as he has a gift for color.



Actually I was astonished, based on what we saw during Tim's visits to
their homes to see how dark they all went.  It was some sort of "group
think-alike" rather then some of the more exuberant collections of
Runway's passed.  I was surprised that Jullian kept with the
Armor/warrior trend and that Rammi pretty much copied that with Joan of
Arc.  Then it looks like Chris and Christian both fell into the Dark
Goth vampire trend.   I was hoping for more color from Chris, at least.



Well I love this show, no matter what and I am looking forward to the
fashion shows.  I know I could cheat, but I decided to let the show be a
treat to look forward to.  I believe we have to wait another week to
find out the actual winner.  If you haven't gone to the BRAVO site and
seen the Online Challenge contest, you should.  It is NOT a spoiler for
the Project Runway final and it has entries from some of the people Auft
early on.  Kind of a "what if" look at other contenders.  I have a
feeling that if Jack had stayed, the top contenders might have been
different.



Look Here for the Main Site: http://www.bravotv.com/ then click on
Project Runway



       Good Stuff is Tim Gunn's Blog comments on each challenge.

        The "It's Sew Not Over"  video's of the mini-challenge for the
Runway contestants.



        And as a Costume Con or Website idea.  A challenge for the fans
with different ones each week (or so) under the

               "Online Challenge".



As for the winner, who knows?  I have to see the actual fashion shows
first.  The judges never pick the ones I like, in any case!



Susan

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From: ICG-D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ICG-D@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
puppetmaker36
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:25 AM
To: ICG-D@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ICG-D] Project Runway Is anyone else watching it?



Tonight is the final and I think one out of the three designers who
made it should be there.

This was one weird Project Runway and some of the judges choices had
me almost throwing things at the TV.

What was y'all's opinion and who do you think will win?





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I thought Chris's use of human hair was fantastic.

I mean come on, people; if you insist on telling designers
they can't use fur from animals, you can't bitch about
them using "fur" from people - especially since they
aren't harmed in the process.

I wish I could root for one of the finalists, but I can't.
  Rami's an overly-earnest "I don't *do* that sort of
thing" one trick pony, Jillian needs a whack with the
confidence stick, and Christian just needs whacking -
because he's an arrogant little turd.  Very talented, yes,
but supremely, annoyingly full of himself.

Karen

Okay I'm going tochime in ehre, because I have a little experience in
airbrush painting directly on white or colored foam latex.  If you want a
rectabular shape with a bit of thickness, that an actor is going to wear,
(as a playing card), then why not cut the foam latex to the size and
shape you want, figure out the holes for the actors arms or whatever, and
paint on it directly?  I've been doing that for years, and can duplicate
many many things--I've done trees, vines and roots, sandstone blocks for
the Pyramid, the big standing stone henge stone, crystals, ceramic,
lapis, malachite.  It doesn't matter so much that the surface isn't
smooth, the way the paint goes in and on the foam, makes it far less
reflective, and because it absorbs more light, it is much more
color-saturated from stage.  I could imagine that painting a card face
onto foam would give a  GREAT looking paying card that was alive and
could move some.

Yours in csotuming, Lisa A>
not that I'm volunteering to paint, but if I had time, it sounds like a
kewl project....
and please don't let's get any further masquerades idea....


On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:26:07 -0500 "Toker, Sue \(US SSA\)"
<sue.toker@...> writes:
> If these are "cards", using foam core boards (which are light) or
> cardboard sounds easiest. They won't be flexible though.  However a
> foam
> core board is already a white colored.  You probably want to add a
> backing/support to protect it from damage (corrugated cardboard (or
> the
> lighter/plastic corrugate cardboard))  come to mind.
>
>
>
> If you are using foam rubber because it is flexible but light then
> you
> may have to experiment. Many gessos will coat but  crack if bent.
> There
> are mediums/acrylic paints that may work, but coating the foam will
> weigh things down a lot.  There are some acrylic based spray paints
> for
> both undercoats.  You can then spray more acrylic paint in desired
> colors over it.  You will not have a smooth/flat surface, but that
> might
> not show at a distance.
>
>
>
> Some Lycra might not be that cheap but there are often
> cheap/stretchy
> fabrics available in the dollar-a-yard bins if you are going for
> flexible. Any cheap cloth that you can paint on and then glue onto
> the
> foam might work.
>
>
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
> Susan
>
>   _____
>
> From: ICG-D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ICG-D@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of
> kari perkins
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 9:53 AM
> To: ICG-D@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ICG-D] coating foam costumes
>
>
>
> Hello fellow costumers!
>
> I've just joined the list. I love making costumes! I've done
> theater,
> dance, film. I am currently making custom wedding gowns--Lots of
> silk!!
>
> I am teaching a theater arts class to elementary school students.
> We
> are making the costumes and props for a production of Alice in
> Wonderland.
>
> I would like to coat foam rubber enough to seal it to paint. It
> needs
> to be non toxic and inexpensive. I've used Sculpt-or-Coat in the
> past.
> I was thinking latex-based wallpaper paste, or white glue.
>
> Covering the costumes (mostly cards) with white lycra may be the
> most
> inexpensive treatment.
>
> I would love some suggestions!
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

I can second that. Last spring I did an emergency costume project for
author Jay Lake, who was the toastmaster and wished to have an
ambulatory piece of toast over which to exert his mastery.

Very simple -- two slabs of foam, an electric carving knife, industrial
strength spray (foam compatible) adhesive and some ordinary foam/plastic
compatible spraypaint. Voila! Giant toast.
<http://pics.livejournal.com/kproche/gallery/0002q3bz>

If you need to hand-paint finer details, acrylic paints have the
advantage that they are water-based (no solvents) and dry to a flexible
state, so will probably adhere nicely to the foam.

Kevin

Lisa A Ashton wrote:
> Okay I'm going tochime in ehre, because I have a little experience in
> airbrush painting directly on white or colored foam latex.  If you want a
> rectabular shape with a bit of thickness, that an actor is going to wear,
> (as a playing card), then why not cut the foam latex to the size and
> shape you want, figure out the holes for the actors arms or whatever, and
> paint on it directly?  I've been doing that for years, and can duplicate
>
>

Gentlebeings:

    Anyone interested in Victorian London (drawings, literature, anything at
all), please check out http://www.victorianlondon.org/ , the home site of
mystery author, and Victorian historian, Lee Jackson.  (Site includes the full
text of "String of Pearls".)

Peace
Alixandra
effiejean@...

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--- In ICG-D@yahoogroups.com, "puppetmaker36" <puppetmaker@...> wrote:
>
> Tonight is the final and I think one out of the three designers who
> made it should be there.
>
> This was one weird Project Runway and some of the judges choices had
> me almost throwing things at the TV.
>
> What was y'all's opinion and who do you think will win?
>
I think they are going to pick Christian, but I think they should
coerce Chris & Christian to team together permanently.

Dina Flockhart
Northern Lights

Yes, I will be at Lunacon, and I will have the glowing hair thingies
to sell there.

Is the newsletter presently being issued? I haven't recieved one and I
know my address should be up to date.
Thanks

Kevin Roche wrote:
>
>
> I can second that. Last spring I did an emergency costume project for
> author Jay Lake, who was the toastmaster and wished to have an
> ambulatory piece of toast over which to exert his mastery.
>
> Very simple -- two slabs of foam, an electric carving knife, industrial
> strength spray (foam compatible) adhesive and some ordinary foam/plastic
> compatible spraypaint. Voila! Giant toast.
> <http://pics.livejournal.com/kproche/gallery/0002q3bz
> <http://pics.livejournal.com/kproche/gallery/0002q3bz>>
>

Did somebody eat the toast? (The gallery was empty.)

--

Steve Swope (aka phierma@...)

I received V-7 issue 1 last weekend.

     Jeanine in MA

carolscostuming3 wrote:
>
> Is the newsletter presently being issued? I haven't recieved one and I
> know my address should be up to date.
> Thanks
>
>


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oops. changed the gallery setting to public but forgot to change the
individual pictures. Try now.

Kevin


Steve Swope wrote:
>>
>
> Did somebody eat the toast? (The gallery was empty.)
>
>

> I  can second that. Last spring I did an emergency costume project for
>  author Jay Lake, who was the toastmaster and wished to have an
>  ambulatory piece of toast over which to exert his  mastery.


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So...what does everyone think about the Project Runway outcome.

Personally, I would have awarded either of the other two contestants vs. the
actual winner.

--Karen

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I loved the use of human hair, too.

I mean, c'mon--if people are willing to glue it to their heads as "extensions,"
why get icked out that it's on clothing?

What do you think of the final results?

--Karen

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Karen Heim
   To: ICG-D@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 3:26 PM
   Subject: Re: [ICG-D] Project Runway Is anyone else watching it?


   I thought Chris's use of human hair was fantastic.

   I mean come on, people; if you insist on telling designers
   they can't use fur from animals, you can't bitch about
   them using "fur" from people - especially since they
   aren't harmed in the process.

   I wish I could root for one of the finalists, but I can't.
   Rami's an overly-earnest "I don't *do* that sort of
   thing" one trick pony, Jillian needs a whack with the
   confidence stick, and Christian just needs whacking -
   because he's an arrogant little turd. Very talented, yes,
   but supremely, annoyingly full of himself.

   Karen





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