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Hi Jim,
I think I understand your searches, been there, did that many times. I remember well how, I myself searched for information on the CDO back around 2004........There was Nothing...:) You and the few others searching for more plans, I suggest that you start with what is available. I along with, I'm sure others, do not fully understand exactly what your meaning is by "Cookie Cutters". If by chance you are referring to the Woods or Moore's replica carriages, you are using the wrong terminology...These are legends. Many of the senior builders today, started or, so to speak, "Cut their teeth" on these.
The plans available today, were done only after a carriage prototype was built first. The J. Woods & Everett Moore's carriages, were designed & built before plans could be drawn up & that is expensive. I myself have researched during my vacation travels & was fortunate enough to be allowed to measure original full sized carriages owned by individuals or in two cases, museums. I have built three so far, just to draw up a set of workable plans on them, for builders & I can tell you it is time consuming & very expensive to do, but I do it for the love of the hobby. As much as I love to build, I for one,can not afford to produce plans this way, on every horseless carriage that was originally built.
I only wish others would try & obtain measurements, drawings & pictures of other original carriages out there. If this was done, with the CAD programs available today, more working plans could be developed. I have the programs to do the job & information on other carriages collected, but not enough hours in the day to do it. My only advice to go with what plans are available today & they are on Mr. Moore's, Mr. Woods or my own, all on the HCR Site. If there were any other plans out there, I can assure you, they would be advertized here...:)
Respectfully,
Lee
----- Original Message -----From: Jim DavisSent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:37 PMSubject: Re: [HorselessCarriageReplicas] other plans???????(electric)
Good evening Lee. . I have been looking for A 1900 horseless carriage ,Like I said in a earlier email no cookie cutters , What can you tell me about the 1905 Woods 214A brougham or the baker electric? Jim
From: "Lee Roy "Lee" Thevenet" <thev@centurytel.net >
To: HorselessCarriageReplicas@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 10:55:08 AM
Subject: Re: [HorselessCarriageReplicas] other plans???????

Hello Jim,Did not mean to cut in on you & Bobs conversation, but if you go to www.horselesscarria gereplicas. com , on the Home page it explains about the different levels (tiers) of building.Lee----- Original Message -----From: Jim DavisSent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:05 AMSubject: Re: [HorselessCarriageR eplicas] other plans???????
Good morning . What are the tier 2and 3 . I think my mechanical and creative skills are adequate,I worked for kw truck in Seattle , also had a wood shop . built church organs, Thank you all. Jim
From: Robert and Kathryn Kapela <rkapela@verizon. net>
To: HorselessCarriageRe plicas@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 7:33:57 AM
Subject: Re: [HorselessCarriageR eplicas] other plans???????
Hello Jim. Depending on your mechanical and creative skills, for a first time builder, I would certainly recommend Jimmy Wood's plans. You may have to do a little creative work to build something that appeals to you. You can build a Jimmy Wood's design vehicle as simple or as complex as you wish. Some first time builders stick strictly to the plans, while many others deviate, especially on the body. Just be sure to stick with the basic parameters to be safe. If you go through the sixty some issues of "Engine & Wheels", you will see many examples of how builders have put their individual ideas into practical use. I built several vehicles, all based on the design. Look at them in issues #37, 43, and 54, and you will see how different each one is, but the basic frame design is the same on all. There are only so many plans available because it is a lot of work for the builder to document and make plans available. There is little, if any profit involved, just the satisfaction of helping other builders. If you do decide to build a machine using your body design, be sure to document it well with photos, measurements, and sketches, so you can be one of the few people offering plans.The Jimmy Wood's design, if the builder sticks completely to the plans, can be considered to be a "tier one" project in terms of skill and machinery required to build. There are other similar plans. As I stated earlier, depending on your own mechanical and creative skills, and available machinery, I would recommend a "tier one" set of plans. If you have the confidence, by all means tackle the "tier two or three" plans.Best of luck. Bob K.----- Original Message -----From: Jim DavisSent: Friday, November 06, 2009 8:42 PMSubject: [HorselessCarriageR eplicas] other plans???????
Hi Guys & Gals I have yet too build a carriage. I have looked at Jimmy Woods plans , But nothing seem to grab me if you know what I mean. Is there anyone out there that knows of more plans? I love the pie wagon ,but . I need some in put on plans. thank you for all your help. Jim Davis . Kearny AZ.
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