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#4588 From: "redkimba2003" <redkimba2003@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:23 pm
Subject: Re: The right to hold a belief that isn't systematically classified as a myth
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Been quietly following this thread.  My observation is that if it's not your
beliefs, then it's a myth.

I don't call other people's beliefs that; this is just my personal observation. 
(I also don't let it twist my knickers in a wad either)

Kimberly


--- In HeathenHomestead@yahoogroups.com, "PatrickD" <pduffy7@...> wrote:
>
> But, no one does except those who like to play games. That's the point. It's
also why I don't call it Christian/Hinu/Buddhist/etc Mythology. If I want my
Beleifs to be Respected, I have to do the same for Others. Agree NO.Fight
against, YES. Respect that which Utgarders themselves Beleive, YES. I'm too old
to play "Tweaking the Mundanes" by a few decades....
> Truth,
> Pat

#4587 From: Jeremy <ravenlaughing@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: 501(c)3 status paper work ?s
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Fey,
You can also work under an umbrella church such as Universal Life
church<http://www.themonastery.org/?destination=main>
.--Jeremy

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Fey Raine <feyraine@...> wrote:

>
>
> I'm about to embark on the tax exempt church paperwork for our Kindred.
>
> Anyone who has done this with any words of advice on how to tame this
> beast?
>
> Also, I'm wondering how long the process took to get approval so I can have
> a realistic time frame...
>
> Thanks
> Fey Raine
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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#4586 From: "PatrickD" <pduffy7@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:48 pm
Subject: Re: The right to hold a belief that isn't systematically classified as a myth
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But, no one does except those who like to play games. That's the point. It's
also why I don't call it Christian/Hinu/Buddhist/etc Mythology. If I want my
Beleifs to be Respected, I have to do the same for Others. Agree NO.Fight
against, YES. Respect that which Utgarders themselves Beleive, YES. I'm too old
to play "Tweaking the Mundanes" by a few decades....
Truth,
Pat
--- In HeathenHomestead@yahoogroups.com, S <drakaran@...> wrote:
>
> Well, I'd rather someone said Heathen mythology (or mythos), than I
> would Heathen dogma. hehehehe

#4585 From: S <drakaran@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:10 pm
Subject: Re: 501(c)3 status paper work ?s
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Probably would be easier to get nonprofit status (or you might try that
if you can't get designated as a church).

S

Fey Raine wrote:
>
>
> I'm about to embark on the tax exempt church paperwork for our Kindred.
>
> Anyone who has done this with any words of advice on how to tame this
> beast?
>
> Also, I'm wondering how long the process took to get approval so I can
> have a realistic time frame...
>
> Thanks
> Fey Raine
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> _

#4584 From: S <drakaran@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:05 pm
Subject: Re: The right to hold a belief that isn't systematically classified as a myth
drakaran
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Well, I'd rather someone said Heathen mythology (or mythos), than I
would Heathen dogma. hehehehe

S

Pat Duffy wrote:
>
>
> It doesn't matter what scholars do with their Word Games. "Myth" and
> "Story"
> have been used at least in the Western World for more than a millennia to
> separate "true" material from made ups stuff by Ignorant Foreigners and
> Country Folk. When someone calls my Beliefs "Myths, I Know EXACTLY
> what they
> mean. Esp. since I call theirs the same and they get Pissed. BTW,
> Neopagans
> oft do the same thing. After all, the Regin arte "Just Aspects of their
> Goddess and God";>..
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pat
>

#4583 From: Ilse Plaisance <ilseplaisance@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:01 pm
Subject: Re: 501(c)3 status paper work ?s
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I looked into it for our kindred.  did find out if you have less then $5,000.00
in contributions or assets you do not have to file.
Ilsa

--- On Fri, 11/20/09, Fey Raine <feyraine@...> wrote:


From: Fey Raine <feyraine@...>
Subject: [HeathenHomestead] 501(c)3 status paper work ?s
To: "HeathenHomestead@yahoogroups.com" <HeathenHomestead@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 1:06 PM


 



I'm about to embark on the tax exempt church paperwork for our Kindred.

Anyone who has done this with any words of advice on how to tame this beast?

Also, I'm wondering how long the process took to get approval so I can have a
realistic time frame...

Thanks
Fey Raine

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#4582 From: "Pat Duffy" <pduffy7@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:19 pm
Subject: RE: The right to hold a belief that isn't systematically classified as a myth
oldenglishp
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It doesn't matter what scholars do with their Word Games. "Myth" and "Story"
have been used at least in the Western World for more than a millennia to
separate "true" material  from made ups stuff by Ignorant Foreigners and
Country Folk. When someone calls my Beliefs "Myths, I Know EXACTLY what they
mean.  Esp. since I call theirs the same and they get Pissed. BTW, Neopagans
oft do the same thing. After all, the Regin arte "Just Aspects of their
Goddess and God";>..

Cheers,

Pat





From: HeathenHomestead@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HeathenHomestead@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gregkaye
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:58 AM
To: HeathenHomestead@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HeathenHomestead] The right to hold a belief that isn't
systematically classified as a myth





Hi, I have a hunch that this may not be the most appropriate post to put up
on this board and yet, as I have posted it on the boards of a number of
religious groups, I thought it might be of interest here as well.

I am not in any way saying that various views should not be criticised. I'm
just saying that judgement should not be enforced before the relevant
threads of information have been considered. Anyway - here goes:

The word 'myth' carries meanings associated either with fictitious
narratives usually involving supernatural persons, actions, or events, with
untrue or popular tales or rumours or with fictitious or imaginary people or
objects.
(see: THE OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY, 2001)






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#4581 From: Fey Raine <feyraine@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:06 pm
Subject: 501(c)3 status paper work ?s
feyraine
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I'm about to embark on the tax exempt church paperwork for our Kindred.

Anyone who has done this with any words of advice on how to tame this beast?

Also, I'm wondering how long the process took to get approval so I can have a
realistic time frame...

Thanks
Fey Raine







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#4580 From: "PatrickD" <pduffy7@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:13 pm
Subject: Off the Grid...sort of!
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It's been two weeks without a computer. Didn't miss it as much as i thought. The
biggest has been since I got mine back from the shop. About half of my lists
don't work and many of the sites I frequent now require more software. Pttttp!.
Yahoogroups even closed my acct for lack of traffic. I got it back but I still
can't get anything through except from the site. Most annoying...
Other than this, things are pretty stable. Most Tender plants are in the
greenhouse and Winter veggies are Germinating well. Discovered a Blood Orange on
one of the container Citrus(those that can't handle our Winters even with
Protection). Hopefully, I'll have myself a Yule present!
Cheers,
Pat

#4579 From: "solarman" <lamar5292@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:20 pm
Subject: Solar system price update!
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I recently updated my solar system with a new 120 watt panel, power controller,
batteries, and small wind turbine. Total system is 470 watts plus 125 watt wind
turbine.

With the extra panel I am now completely charging two Trojan t105s and two MD80
batteries in 3 hours of sunshine.

In winter about three hours of good sunshine is all I can expect and that will
give me reserve power for 4 days or even longer if I conserve power.

In summer I could easily add 4 more batteries but I designed my system to handle
winter needs because I am rarely home to use power in the summer.

At today's prices you could get a system like mine for:

four 120 watt panels at $300 =  $1200

4 deep cycle batteries at $170 = $680

Mppt power controller            $130

1000 watt inverter               $150

Total cost                      $2160

And that does not include the 30% fed tax rebate or any state rebate.

Price of system $2160 price of freedom from a lifetime of utility bills-
priceless!

If you are looking for solar panels or other alternative energy equipment please
contact me off-line and I can direct you to the best prices from reputable
dealers. I do not sell equipment but I know where to get good stuff cheap!

LaMar
www.simplesolarhomesteading.com

#4578 From: "solarman" <lamar5292@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:06 pm
Subject: The solar porch
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This is the guys plans that inspired me to design a solar porch:

http://www.builditsolar.com/Experimental/ShurcliffPart1/PolySpace.htm

Only I simplified it to make the porch usable all year, doesn't require any air
pump and built for a lot less money.

The porch on my cabin faces south. In summer it provides a cool place to hang
out and cools the breeze that enters the house and shades windows from sun.

In winter the sun is much lower in the sky and that porch is converted to a
solarium to catch the heat for the house.

One layer of plastic goes outside the house and one layer goes inside to create
a dead air space that acts as insulation to hold the heat in.

I use an old storm door attached to 2x4s that fits perfectly on the porch and
goes up in a few minutes.

When the sun shines in winter the porch will get into mid 70-80 degrees and I
just open the front door and let the heat in to warm the house.

The porch also acts as an airlock to prevent cold winds from entering the cabin
and that saves heat.

The porch gets very cozy on winter days and thats where I hang out to get some
sun without cold breezes blowing down my neck and I work on projects on the
porch.

I can put the solar porch up in 2 hours and take it down and store it in spring.

This idea could be used in any house that has a south wall with a door or
windows to help heat the home in winter.

LaMar
www.simplesolarhomesteading.com

#4577 From: "Gregkaye" <gregoriousity@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:19 pm
Subject: Re: The right to hold a belief that isn't systematically classified as a myth
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--- In HeathenHomestead@yahoogroups.com, S <drakaran@...> wrote:
>
> Heya Greg,
>
> I'm not sure why you're bringing this up here instead of some of the
> other Heathen forums, but I haven't been hearing people use the word
> "myth" very much at all, especially in relation to the sagas etc that we
> have for reference. Maybe this is barking up a tree that doesn't really
> exist? In fact, if anything, it seems people are getting better about
> referring to specific resources and not making vague claims in general.
> Or specifying that something is UPG vs VCG.
>
> S

I guess I was just trying things out to see how they went - and this was the
only heathen forum that did not reject the post with some choice words.  Thanks
for your thoughts, on this S.

Greg
>
> Gregkaye wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In HeathenHomestead@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:HeathenHomestead%40yahoogroups.com>, "Gregkaye"
> > <gregoriousity@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, I have a hunch that this may not be the most appropriate post to
> > put up on this board and yet, as I have posted it on the boards of a
> > number of religious groups, I thought it might be of interest here as
> > well.
> > >
> >
> ...
>

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