I move that everybody reset their password to: DUKE. Then nothing can go wrong!



BD




On Feb 13, 2013, at 12:33 PM, Larry Kenney wrote:

> I just read the following article in a "TV Technology" email.
>
> Larry
>
> - - -
>
> FCC Issues Urgent EAS Advisory
> Participants asked to change passwords
>
> WASHINGTON – The Federal Communications Commission is requiring all broadcast
and cable operations to secure their Emergency Alert System equipment. The
commission issued an urgent advisory yesterday after EAS systems were hacked at
several stations and fake alerts about zombie invasions were transmitted. The
EAS system was transitioned in recent years to an Internet Protocol format and a
Common Alerting Protocol that makes it available to all manner of public-safety
authorities, but also vulnerable to hacking.
>
> The FCC urged participants “to take immediate action to secure their CAP EAS
equipment, including resetting passwords, and ensuring CAP EAS equipment is
secured behind properly configured firewalls and other defensive measures. All
CAP EAS equipment manufacturer models are included in this advisory.”
>
> The advisory directs “all broadcast and cable EAS participants… to take the
following actions immediately:
> 1. EAS participants must change all passwords on their CAP EAS equipment from
default factory settings, including administrator and user accounts.
>
> 2. EAS participants are also urged to ensure that their firewalls and other
solutions are properly configured and up-to-date.
>
> 3. EAS Participants are further advised to examine their CAP EAS equipment to
ensure that no unauthorized alerts or messages have been set (queued) for future
transmission.
>
> 4. If you are unable to reset the default passwords on your equipment, you may
consider disconnecting your device’s Ethernet connection until those settings
have been updated.
>
> 5. EAS Participants that have questions about securing their equipment should
consult their equipment manufacturer. The advisory is avalable at /portals/4/FCC
Urgent EAS Advisory.pdf
>
> - - -
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 13, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Duke And Rat wrote:
>
>> "Dead bodies are rising from the grave!"
>>
>> Hackers targeted EAS nationwide. First reports said it originated at KRTV.
But apparently the "Zombie Attack" went nationwide.
>>
>> The FCC, FBI and several state and local law enforcement agencies are
investigating what now appears to have been a widespread hack attack on the
Emergency Alert System.   The full extent of the attack isn’t yet clear, but
several HD2 stations aired a bogus message about zombies.    Engineers say the
hackers apparently had a solid working knowledge of EAS.
>>
>> Bonneville director of engineering John Dehnel says the company’s Salt Lake
City stations were one target.  While it never made it to news-talk KSL (1160) —
the LP1 station for the area — or its sister KSL-TV, the bizarre message was
broadcast on the cluster’s three HD2 stations.  Dehnel believes the culprit was
EAS boxes that were left set to factory-installed default passwords to
accommodate tech support crews.   “We left the default password in and frankly I
forgot about it — my guess is you’ll find everyone still had the default
password on it,” he says.
>>
>> The Bonneville HD2 stations fired the bogus EAS messages about one hour
before a Great Falls, MT television station that made headlines yesterday. 
Several other stations also aired a fake EAS message, including TV stations in
Albuquerque and Marquette, MI.   A radio station in Los Angeles apparently
thwarted its attack.  It’s possible other stations also broadcast the alert.
>>
>> Following Monday’s breach of the Emergency Alert System, tech manufacturers
are scrambling to make sure there are no open security windows in their
equipment.  Monroe Electronics said its customers should change passwords and
step up EAS’ security by putting the system behind a firewall.
>>
>> Hours before their fake EAS activation, Dehnel says Bonneville has been able
to piece together that someone outside the U.S. was “probing around” in the
middle of the night on its Dasdec boxes.  Because of how the fake alert was
created, such as using live codes, a duration time, and knowing how to send an
audio cut, Dehnel is convinced the hackers know a lot about the inner-workings
of EAS.  “A normal hacker hitting that thing would not know how to do that,” he
says.
>>
>> Rudman agrees. “It would require a little bit more expertise than the average
hacker would have to do what appears to have happened,” he says.
>>
>> Besides blatantly bogus messages about a “zombie attack,” the message also
told listeners to tune to 920 AM which Dehnel believes shows it was written for
a market other than Salt Lake City.  Bonneville has taken its box offline to
preserve any data it may contain — data which could be used as evidence. 
Besides violating FCC rules, the hacker could face federal criminal charges.
>>
>

I wanna run this by you guys again, 'cause it sure looks like KGO.

Local news: No problemo!

Late night news: No problemo!

Jeopardy, in one 30 minute space jumps back and forward in time (about 1-2
seconds each hop.) It did this 4 times tonite!






BD

Man, Zero Hour's almost unwatchable. It's jumping forward and back all over the
place.

Anybody seeing this OTA?





BD

And once again, this time over Dishnetwork, no problemo at all during
Jeopardy....

--- In HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com, Duke And Rat <dukenrat@...> wrote:
>
> I wanna run this by you guys again, 'cause it sure looks like KGO.
>
> Local news: No problemo!
>
> Late night news: No problemo!
>
> Jeopardy, in one 30 minute space jumps back and forward in time (about 1-2
seconds each hop.) It did this 4 times tonite!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> BD
>

I have it recorded over Dish, I haven't watched it yet, but, I think you have a
problem with Comcast.  Do you have a DVR?

--- In HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com, Duke And Rat <dukenrat@...> wrote:
>
> Man, Zero Hour's almost unwatchable. It's jumping forward and back all over
the place.
>
> Anybody seeing this OTA?
>
>
>
>
>
> BD
>

It's fine OTA. No problems other than the acting.

--- In HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com, Duke And Rat <dukenrat@...> wrote:
>
> Man, Zero Hour's almost unwatchable. It's jumping forward and back all over
the place.
>
> Anybody seeing this OTA?
>
>
>
>
>
> BD
>

Nope, this is in real time. Guess I'll rattle Comcast's cage again.




BD




On Feb 15, 2013, at 8:24 AM, bobby6048 wrote:

> I have it recorded over Dish, I haven't watched it yet, but, I think you have
a problem with Comcast.  Do you have a DVR?
>
> --- In HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com, Duke And Rat <dukenrat@...> wrote:
>>
>> Man, Zero Hour's almost unwatchable. It's jumping forward and back all over
the place.
>>
>> Anybody seeing this OTA?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> BD
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

I checked my Dish recording of Zero Hour and it was just fine.  It is important
to note that Dish gets its signal from the networks in SF OTA.  Now, I watched
Jeopardy last night using Comcast and it was just fine too.  Once again, I have
to ask do you have a DVR?  If your local area was having the same issue you are
having I'm sure Comcast has had multiple calls about it.  I think the issue is
inside your home, that is why I think your DVR, if you have one, is going
ballistic.....

--- In HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com, Duke And Rat <dukenrat@...> wrote:
>
> Nope, this is in real time. Guess I'll rattle Comcast's cage again.
>
>
>
>
> BD
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 15, 2013, at 8:24 AM, bobby6048 wrote:
>
> > I have it recorded over Dish, I haven't watched it yet, but, I think you
have a problem with Comcast.  Do you have a DVR?
> >
> > --- In HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com, Duke And Rat <dukenrat@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Man, Zero Hour's almost unwatchable. It's jumping forward and back all over
the place.
> >>
> >> Anybody seeing this OTA?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> BD
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

 

I checked my Dish recording of Zero Hour and it was just fine. It is important to note that Dish gets its signal from the networks in SF OTA. Now, I watched Jeopardy last night using Comcast and it was just fine too. Once again, I have to ask do you have a DVR? If your local area was having the same issue you are having I'm sure Comcast has had multiple calls about it. I think the issue is inside your home, that is why I think your DVR, if you have one, is going ballistic.....

--- In HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com, Duke And Rat wrote:
>
> Nope, this is in real time. Guess I'll rattle Comcast's cage again.
>
>
>
>
> BD
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 15, 2013, at 8:24 AM, bobby6048 wrote:
>
> > I have it recorded over Dish, I haven't watched it yet, but, I think you have a problem with Comcast. Do you have a DVR?
> >
> > --- In HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com, Duke And Rat wrote:
> >>
> >> Man, Zero Hour's almost unwatchable. It's jumping forward and back all over the place.
> >>
> >> Anybody seeing this OTA?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> BD
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

Does anyone know where the SF area Dish OTA receive site is located?

http://www.avsforum.com/t/369015/san-francisco-ca-ota/9150#post_22995588


I have done a bunch of testing and I think I know what is wrong with Cozi.


"The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes" (1956) is a 4:3 program which must be
upconverted to 16:9. This has been done correctly.


Once the up conversion process has been done it is a 16:9 program and must
be labeled and treated as 16:9.


Somewhere in the PSIP or the MPEG2 file itself there must be a place where
the aspect ratio is to be placed but it is blank or invalid.


On my newly repaired Vista Laptop (Remember always to use the correct glue
when installing your GPU! Or lose $475, thanks NVIDIA) I was able to see
that there are two black bands on each side.


The outermost band is BLACK and the innermost band is black with SNOW. The
inner black SNOW band was added by the up conversion process. The outer
BLACK band is added by the Fusion software when it thinks it is displaying a
4:3 picture on a 16:9 device.


As most tuners and display programs like VLC Media Player assume 16:9 the
BLACK band is not added and there is no problem.


Fusion assumed 4:3 and adds the BLACK band when displaying on a 16:9 device.
It did not on my spare HTPC which has a 4:3 CPU display.


If you see the postage stamp aspect ratio, look closely and I expect you
will see the two differing bands.


I have sent a message to Cozi but I do not expect an answer.


SHF

I'm thinking, that like the movie they showed with 45 MINUTES OF NO SOUND, the
whole package was put together months and months ago by some NBC bigwig who knew
not too much about technical skills. So, EVEN IF THEY DO ACTUALLY READ YOUR
E-MAIL, it would take months, if not years to correct, as it's not helping
Comcast's stock market rating.





BD




On Feb 21, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Stephen H. Fischer wrote:

> http://www.avsforum.com/t/369015/san-francisco-ca-ota/9150#post_22995588
>
>
> I have done a bunch of testing and I think I know what is wrong with Cozi.
>
>
> "The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes" (1956) is a 4:3 program which must be
> upconverted to 16:9. This has been done correctly.
>
>
> Once the up conversion process has been done it is a 16:9 program and must
> be labeled and treated as 16:9.
>
>
> Somewhere in the PSIP or the MPEG2 file itself there must be a place where
> the aspect ratio is to be placed but it is blank or invalid.
>
>
> On my newly repaired Vista Laptop (Remember always to use the correct glue
> when installing your GPU! Or lose $475, thanks NVIDIA) I was able to see
> that there are two black bands on each side.
>
>
> The outermost band is BLACK and the innermost band is black with SNOW. The
> inner black SNOW band was added by the up conversion process. The outer
> BLACK band is added by the Fusion software when it thinks it is displaying a
> 4:3 picture on a 16:9 device.
>
>
> As most tuners and display programs like VLC Media Player assume 16:9 the
> BLACK band is not added and there is no problem.
>
>
> Fusion assumed 4:3 and adds the BLACK band when displaying on a 16:9 device.
> It did not on my spare HTPC which has a 4:3 CPU display.
>
>
> If you see the postage stamp aspect ratio, look closely and I expect you
> will see the two differing bands.
>
>
> I have sent a message to Cozi but I do not expect an answer.
>
>
> SHF
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Hi,

I am hoping that KNTV will somehow get a message that something is wrong and
that those who understand PSIP will become involved.

The problem is that the PSIP looks right, 16:9 is stated in the one place
that if missing would prove my idea.

There are people that care about getting things right and making things
work. That has been my life long personal goal.

The bigwigs make the decisions, they have knowledgeable people to carry out
their orders.

Other stations do not have this problem and KNTV's 11.1 does not for sure.

SHF



----- Original Message -----
From: "Duke And Rat" <dukenrat@...>
To: <HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
continues.


> I'm thinking, that like the movie they showed with 45 MINUTES OF NO SOUND,
> the whole package was put together months and months ago by some NBC
> bigwig who knew not too much about technical skills. So, EVEN IF THEY DO
> ACTUALLY READ YOUR E-MAIL, it would take months, if not years to correct,
> as it's not helping Comcast's stock market rating.
>
>
>
>
>
> BD
>

I have been in southern california for a while. None of the problems described
with regard to cozi are occurring down here. Knbc 4.2 is fine, no problem with
aspect ratio. So the problem appears to be local to kntv or comcast.
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: "Stephen H. Fischer" <SFischer1@...>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 03:38:21
To: <HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
  continues.

 



Hi,

I am hoping that KNTV will somehow get a message that something is wrong and
that those who understand PSIP will become involved.

The problem is that the PSIP looks right, 16:9 is stated in the one place
that if missing would prove my idea.

There are people that care about getting things right and making things
work. That has been my life long personal goal.

The bigwigs make the decisions, they have knowledgeable people to carry out
their orders.

Other stations do not have this problem and KNTV's 11.1 does not for sure.

SHF

----- Original Message -----
From: "Duke And Rat" dukenrat@... <mailto:dukenrat%40sonic.net> >
To: HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com <mailto:HDTV-in-SFbay%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
continues.

> I'm thinking, that like the movie they showed with 45 MINUTES OF NO SOUND,
> the whole package was put together months and months ago by some NBC
> bigwig who knew not too much about technical skills. So, EVEN IF THEY DO
> ACTUALLY READ YOUR E-MAIL, it would take months, if not years to correct,
> as it's not helping Comcast's stock market rating.
>
>
>
>
>
> BD
>

I like hearing about Comcraps problems here. But I don't like the complaints
from individuals that assume OTA broadcasts are the same. Proper full disclosure
from you now on as to what equipment you are using and under what conditions you
are experiencing your problems, hey RAT? Sometimes putting the beer can down
before posting might help..keep posting as I enjoy it.  I mean no malice.

-----Original Message-----

From: Duke And Rat
Sent: 22 Feb 2013 03:07:53 GMT
To: HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
continues.

I'm thinking, that like the movie they showed with 45 MINUTES OF NO SOUND, the
whole package was put together months and months ago by some NBC bigwig who knew
not too much about technical skills. So, EVEN IF THEY DO ACTUALLY READ YOUR
E-MAIL, it would take months, if not years to correct, as it's not helping
Comcast's stock market rating.





BD




On Feb 21, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Stephen H. Fischer wrote:

> http://www.avsforum.com/t/369015/san-francisco-ca-ota/9150#post_22995588
>
>
> I have done a bunch of testing and I think I know what is wrong with Cozi.
>
>
> "The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes" (1956) is a 4:3 program which must be
> upconverted to 16:9. This has been done correctly.
>
>
> Once the up conversion process has been done it is a 16:9 program and must
> be labeled and treated as 16:9.
>
>
> Somewhere in the PSIP or the MPEG2 file itself there must be a place where
> the aspect ratio is to be placed but it is blank or invalid.
>
>
> On my newly repaired Vista Laptop (Remember always to use the correct glue
> when installing your GPU! Or lose $475, thanks NVIDIA) I was able to see
> that there are two black bands on each side.
>
>
> The outermost band is BLACK and the innermost band is black with SNOW. The
> inner black SNOW band was added by the up conversion process. The outer
> BLACK band is added by the Fusion software when it thinks it is displaying a
> 4:3 picture on a 16:9 device.
>
>
> As most tuners and display programs like VLC Media Player assume 16:9 the
> BLACK band is not added and there is no problem.
>
>
> Fusion assumed 4:3 and adds the BLACK band when displaying on a 16:9 device.
> It did not on my spare HTPC which has a 4:3 CPU display.
>
>
> If you see the postage stamp aspect ratio, look closely and I expect you
> will see the two differing bands.
>
>
> I have sent a message to Cozi but I do not expect an answer.
>
>
> SHF
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>



------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

Hi,

It was interesting that I was able to duplicate the problem with 11.2 and
did not realize that he was on Comcast at the time.

AVS added one more tuner type that displayed the problem. Three is a very
small number, one Comcast and two OTA.

Having three types of Fusion tuners and both 16:9 and 4:3 displays has
helped me a lot.

But it goes back to my seeing "COZI" and "CA-NS" alternating as the 11.2
stream ID, then both disappearing. That was using HDHomerun's live display.
I was able to check that the stream was still there because another tuner
remembered 11.2. That tuner showed a blank stream initially at that time for
11.1 and 11.2.

I really still do not have a good handle on what is wrong and have thrown
several ideas out that have been wrong. I do that a lot, build a model to
explain how things works and when more information comes in change the model
or throw it away. I now want to extract the MPEG2 and look at it, reinstall
some $$ software to see what it says. Maybe find some very old software I
have not used in ten years.

AVS and this mailing list are separate, both need to be read to understand
all the input on this problem.

Yes, I thought the OP was a flake based on previous posts, but once the
problem was duplicated it became a problem to understand and help with.

I now have gone nationwide asking for help on AVS, but perhaps in the wrong
thread.

SHF


----- Original Message -----
From: "bill weber" <bweber2k@...>
To: <HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
continues.


>I like hearing about Comcraps problems here. But I don't like the
>complaints from individuals that assume OTA broadcasts are the same. Proper
>full disclosure from you now on as to what equipment you are using and
>under what conditions you are experiencing your problems, hey RAT?
>Sometimes putting the beer can down before posting might help..keep posting
>as I enjoy it.  I mean no malice.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Duke And Rat
> Sent: 22 Feb 2013 03:07:53 GMT
> To: HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
> continues.
>
> I'm thinking, that like the movie they showed with 45 MINUTES OF NO SOUND,
> the whole package was put together months and months ago by some NBC
> bigwig who knew not too much about technical skills. So, EVEN IF THEY DO
> ACTUALLY READ YOUR E-MAIL, it would take months, if not years to correct,
> as it's not helping Comcast's stock market rating.
>
>
>
>
>
> BD
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 21, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Stephen H. Fischer wrote:
>
>> http://www.avsforum.com/t/369015/san-francisco-ca-ota/9150#post_22995588
>>
>>
>> I have done a bunch of testing and I think I know what is wrong with
>> Cozi.
>>
>>
>> "The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes" (1956) is a 4:3 program which must be
>> upconverted to 16:9. This has been done correctly.
>>
>>
>> Once the up conversion process has been done it is a 16:9 program and
>> must
>> be labeled and treated as 16:9.
>>
>>
>> Somewhere in the PSIP or the MPEG2 file itself there must be a place
>> where
>> the aspect ratio is to be placed but it is blank or invalid.
>>
>>
>> On my newly repaired Vista Laptop (Remember always to use the correct
>> glue
>> when installing your GPU! Or lose $475, thanks NVIDIA) I was able to see
>> that there are two black bands on each side.
>>
>>
>> The outermost band is BLACK and the innermost band is black with SNOW.
>> The
>> inner black SNOW band was added by the up conversion process. The outer
>> BLACK band is added by the Fusion software when it thinks it is
>> displaying a
>> 4:3 picture on a 16:9 device.
>>
>>
>> As most tuners and display programs like VLC Media Player assume 16:9 the
>> BLACK band is not added and there is no problem.
>>
>>
>> Fusion assumed 4:3 and adds the BLACK band when displaying on a 16:9
>> device.
>> It did not on my spare HTPC which has a 4:3 CPU display.
>>
>>
>> If you see the postage stamp aspect ratio, look closely and I expect you
>> will see the two differing bands.
>>
>>
>> I have sent a message to Cozi but I do not expect an answer.
>>
>>
>> SHF
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

You duplicated with what equipment? I'm going on a rant
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=ODQ11b0_roU&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DODQ11b0_ro\
U


-----Original Message-----

From: Stephen H. Fischer
Sent: 22 Feb 2013 06:26:09 GMT
To: HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
continues.

Hi,

It was interesting that I was able to duplicate the problem with 11.2 and
did not realize that he was on Comcast at the time.

AVS added one more tuner type that displayed the problem. Three is a very
small number, one Comcast and two OTA.

Having three types of Fusion tuners and both 16:9 and 4:3 displays has
helped me a lot.

But it goes back to my seeing "COZI" and "CA-NS" alternating as the 11.2
stream ID, then both disappearing. That was using HDHomerun's live display.
I was able to check that the stream was still there because another tuner
remembered 11.2. That tuner showed a blank stream initially at that time for
11.1 and 11.2.

I really still do not have a good handle on what is wrong and have thrown
several ideas out that have been wrong. I do that a lot, build a model to
explain how things works and when more information comes in change the model
or throw it away. I now want to extract the MPEG2 and look at it, reinstall
some $$ software to see what it says. Maybe find some very old software I
have not used in ten years.

AVS and this mailing list are separate, both need to be read to understand
all the input on this problem.

Yes, I thought the OP was a flake based on previous posts, but once the
problem was duplicated it became a problem to understand and help with.

I now have gone nationwide asking for help on AVS, but perhaps in the wrong
thread.

SHF


----- Original Message -----
From: "bill weber" <bweber2k@...>
To: <HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
continues.


>I like hearing about Comcraps problems here. But I don't like the
>complaints from individuals that assume OTA broadcasts are the same. Proper
>full disclosure from you now on as to what equipment you are using and
>under what conditions you are experiencing your problems, hey RAT?
>Sometimes putting the beer can down before posting might help..keep posting
>as I enjoy it.  I mean no malice.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Duke And Rat
> Sent: 22 Feb 2013 03:07:53 GMT
> To: HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
> continues.
>
> I'm thinking, that like the movie they showed with 45 MINUTES OF NO SOUND,
> the whole package was put together months and months ago by some NBC
> bigwig who knew not too much about technical skills. So, EVEN IF THEY DO
> ACTUALLY READ YOUR E-MAIL, it would take months, if not years to correct,
> as it's not helping Comcast's stock market rating.
>
>
>
>
>
> BD
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 21, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Stephen H. Fischer wrote:
>
>> http://www.avsforum.com/t/369015/san-francisco-ca-ota/9150#post_22995588
>>
>>
>> I have done a bunch of testing and I think I know what is wrong with
>> Cozi.
>>
>>
>> "The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes" (1956) is a 4:3 program which must be
>> upconverted to 16:9. This has been done correctly.
>>
>>
>> Once the up conversion process has been done it is a 16:9 program and
>> must
>> be labeled and treated as 16:9.
>>
>>
>> Somewhere in the PSIP or the MPEG2 file itself there must be a place
>> where
>> the aspect ratio is to be placed but it is blank or invalid.
>>
>>
>> On my newly repaired Vista Laptop (Remember always to use the correct
>> glue
>> when installing your GPU! Or lose $475, thanks NVIDIA) I was able to see
>> that there are two black bands on each side.
>>
>>
>> The outermost band is BLACK and the innermost band is black with SNOW.
>> The
>> inner black SNOW band was added by the up conversion process. The outer
>> BLACK band is added by the Fusion software when it thinks it is
>> displaying a
>> 4:3 picture on a 16:9 device.
>>
>>
>> As most tuners and display programs like VLC Media Player assume 16:9 the
>> BLACK band is not added and there is no problem.
>>
>>
>> Fusion assumed 4:3 and adds the BLACK band when displaying on a 16:9
>> device.
>> It did not on my spare HTPC which has a 4:3 CPU display.
>>
>>
>> If you see the postage stamp aspect ratio, look closely and I expect you
>> will see the two differing bands.
>>
>>
>> I have sent a message to Cozi but I do not expect an answer.
>>
>>
>> SHF
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>



------------------------------------

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I've mentioned comcast before.

It appears that enough people complained about 7.1, so the KGO Time Machine is
now fixed. YAY!

Except the audio's a little funny on ABC news shows, both local and network.
When they come back from commercial, the audio is low, and slowly creeps up. Oh,
let me guess, it's a comcast problem!




BD




On Feb 21, 2013, at 9:59 PM, bill weber wrote:

> I like hearing about Comcraps problems here. But I don't like the complaints
from individuals that assume OTA broadcasts are the same. Proper full disclosure
from you now on as to what equipment you are using and under what conditions you
are experiencing your problems, hey RAT? Sometimes putting the beer can down
before posting might help..keep posting as I enjoy it.  I mean no malice.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Duke And Rat
> Sent: 22 Feb 2013 03:07:53 GMT
> To: HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
continues.
>
> I'm thinking, that like the movie they showed with 45 MINUTES OF NO SOUND, the
whole package was put together months and months ago by some NBC bigwig who knew
not too much about technical skills. So, EVEN IF THEY DO ACTUALLY READ YOUR
E-MAIL, it would take months, if not years to correct, as it's not helping
Comcast's stock market rating.
>
>
>
>
>
> BD
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 21, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Stephen H. Fischer wrote:
>
>> http://www.avsforum.com/t/369015/san-francisco-ca-ota/9150#post_22995588
>>
>>
>> I have done a bunch of testing and I think I know what is wrong with Cozi.
>>
>>
>> "The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes" (1956) is a 4:3 program which must be
>> upconverted to 16:9. This has been done correctly.
>>
>>
>> Once the up conversion process has been done it is a 16:9 program and must
>> be labeled and treated as 16:9.
>>
>>
>> Somewhere in the PSIP or the MPEG2 file itself there must be a place where
>> the aspect ratio is to be placed but it is blank or invalid.
>>
>>
>> On my newly repaired Vista Laptop (Remember always to use the correct glue
>> when installing your GPU! Or lose $475, thanks NVIDIA) I was able to see
>> that there are two black bands on each side.
>>
>>
>> The outermost band is BLACK and the innermost band is black with SNOW. The
>> inner black SNOW band was added by the up conversion process. The outer
>> BLACK band is added by the Fusion software when it thinks it is displaying a
>> 4:3 picture on a 16:9 device.
>>
>>
>> As most tuners and display programs like VLC Media Player assume 16:9 the
>> BLACK band is not added and there is no problem.
>>
>>
>> Fusion assumed 4:3 and adds the BLACK band when displaying on a 16:9 device.
>> It did not on my spare HTPC which has a 4:3 CPU display.
>>
>>
>> If you see the postage stamp aspect ratio, look closely and I expect you
>> will see the two differing bands.
>>
>>
>> I have sent a message to Cozi but I do not expect an answer.
>>
>>
>> SHF
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Make a sig and put your hardware in there please. I use a LG 4200 tuner. I have
never seen your problems.   Wasn't that a statement by me. I've moved on to a
pocket pc with a cellphone transmitter(droid bionic). If your technicians, your
kids would like a rasberrypi device.

-----Original Message-----

From: Duke And Rat
Sent: 22 Feb 2013 07:56:20 GMT
To: HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
continues.

I've mentioned comcast before.

It appears that enough people complained about 7.1, so the KGO Time Machine is
now fixed. YAY!

Except the audio's a little funny on ABC news shows, both local and network.
When they come back from commercial, the audio is low, and slowly creeps up. Oh,
let me guess, it's a comcast problem!




BD




On Feb 21, 2013, at 9:59 PM, bill weber wrote:

> I like hearing about Comcraps problems here. But I don't like the complaints
from individuals that assume OTA broadcasts are the same. Proper full disclosure
from you now on as to what equipment you are using and under what conditions you
are experiencing your problems, hey RAT? Sometimes putting the beer can down
before posting might help..keep posting as I enjoy it.  I mean no malice.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Duke And Rat
> Sent: 22 Feb 2013 03:07:53 GMT
> To: HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
continues.
>
> I'm thinking, that like the movie they showed with 45 MINUTES OF NO SOUND, the
whole package was put together months and months ago by some NBC bigwig who knew
not too much about technical skills. So, EVEN IF THEY DO ACTUALLY READ YOUR
E-MAIL, it would take months, if not years to correct, as it's not helping
Comcast's stock market rating.
>
>
>
>
>
> BD
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 21, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Stephen H. Fischer wrote:
>
>> http://www.avsforum.com/t/369015/san-francisco-ca-ota/9150#post_22995588
>>
>>
>> I have done a bunch of testing and I think I know what is wrong with Cozi.
>>
>>
>> "The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes" (1956) is a 4:3 program which must be
>> upconverted to 16:9. This has been done correctly.
>>
>>
>> Once the up conversion process has been done it is a 16:9 program and must
>> be labeled and treated as 16:9.
>>
>>
>> Somewhere in the PSIP or the MPEG2 file itself there must be a place where
>> the aspect ratio is to be placed but it is blank or invalid.
>>
>>
>> On my newly repaired Vista Laptop (Remember always to use the correct glue
>> when installing your GPU! Or lose $475, thanks NVIDIA) I was able to see
>> that there are two black bands on each side.
>>
>>
>> The outermost band is BLACK and the innermost band is black with SNOW. The
>> inner black SNOW band was added by the up conversion process. The outer
>> BLACK band is added by the Fusion software when it thinks it is displaying a
>> 4:3 picture on a 16:9 device.
>>
>>
>> As most tuners and display programs like VLC Media Player assume 16:9 the
>> BLACK band is not added and there is no problem.
>>
>>
>> Fusion assumed 4:3 and adds the BLACK band when displaying on a 16:9 device.
>> It did not on my spare HTPC which has a 4:3 CPU display.
>>
>>
>> If you see the postage stamp aspect ratio, look closely and I expect you
>> will see the two differing bands.
>>
>>
>> I have sent a message to Cozi but I do not expect an answer.
>>
>>
>> SHF
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>



------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

Okay, Cyndie Lauper supports whats his face.... girls just want to have fun.
Find on youtube before I shag my poodle with scisores homosapians.

-----Original Message-----

From: bill weber
Sent: 22 Feb 2013 08:32:17 GMT
To: HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
continues.

Make a sig and put your hardware in there please. I use a LG 4200 tuner. I have
never seen your problems.   Wasn't that a statement by me. I've moved on to a
pocket pc with a cellphone transmitter(droid bionic). If your technicians, your
kids would like a rasberrypi device.

-----Original Message-----

From: Duke And Rat
Sent: 22 Feb 2013 07:56:20 GMT
To: HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
continues.

I've mentioned comcast before.

It appears that enough people complained about 7.1, so the KGO Time Machine is
now fixed. YAY!

Except the audio's a little funny on ABC news shows, both local and network.
When they come back from commercial, the audio is low, and slowly creeps up. Oh,
let me guess, it's a comcast problem!




BD




On Feb 21, 2013, at 9:59 PM, bill weber wrote:

> I like hearing about Comcraps problems here. But I don't like the complaints
from individuals that assume OTA broadcasts are the same. Proper full disclosure
from you now on as to what equipment you are using and under what conditions you
are experiencing your problems, hey RAT? Sometimes putting the beer can down
before posting might help..keep posting as I enjoy it.  I mean no malice.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Duke And Rat
> Sent: 22 Feb 2013 03:07:53 GMT
> To: HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
continues.
>
> I'm thinking, that like the movie they showed with 45 MINUTES OF NO SOUND, the
whole package was put together months and months ago by some NBC bigwig who knew
not too much about technical skills. So, EVEN IF THEY DO ACTUALLY READ YOUR
E-MAIL, it would take months, if not years to correct, as it's not helping
Comcast's stock market rating.
>
>
>
>
>
> BD
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 21, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Stephen H. Fischer wrote:
>
>> http://www.avsforum.com/t/369015/san-francisco-ca-ota/9150#post_22995588
>>
>>
>> I have done a bunch of testing and I think I know what is wrong with Cozi.
>>
>>
>> "The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes" (1956) is a 4:3 program which must be
>> upconverted to 16:9. This has been done correctly.
>>
>>
>> Once the up conversion process has been done it is a 16:9 program and must
>> be labeled and treated as 16:9.
>>
>>
>> Somewhere in the PSIP or the MPEG2 file itself there must be a place where
>> the aspect ratio is to be placed but it is blank or invalid.
>>
>>
>> On my newly repaired Vista Laptop (Remember always to use the correct glue
>> when installing your GPU! Or lose $475, thanks NVIDIA) I was able to see
>> that there are two black bands on each side.
>>
>>
>> The outermost band is BLACK and the innermost band is black with SNOW. The
>> inner black SNOW band was added by the up conversion process. The outer
>> BLACK band is added by the Fusion software when it thinks it is displaying a
>> 4:3 picture on a 16:9 device.
>>
>>
>> As most tuners and display programs like VLC Media Player assume 16:9 the
>> BLACK band is not added and there is no problem.
>>
>>
>> Fusion assumed 4:3 and adds the BLACK band when displaying on a 16:9 device.
>> It did not on my spare HTPC which has a 4:3 CPU display.
>>
>>
>> If you see the postage stamp aspect ratio, look closely and I expect you
>> will see the two differing bands.
>>
>>
>> I have sent a message to Cozi but I do not expect an answer.
>>
>>
>> SHF
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>



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I wàitig for the movie of the 2015 queen to lose the guards to the weens secret
labatories.


-----Original Message-----

From: bill weber
Sent: 22 Feb 2013 11:19:17 GMT
To: HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
continues.

Okay, Cyndie Lauper supports whats his face.... girls just want to have fun.
Find on youtube before I shag my poodle with scisores homosapians.

-----Original Message-----

From: bill weber
Sent: 22 Feb 2013 08:32:17 GMT
To: HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
continues.

Make a sig and put your hardware in there please. I use a LG 4200 tuner. I have
never seen your problems.   Wasn't that a statement by me. I've moved on to a
pocket pc with a cellphone transmitter(droid bionic). If your technicians, your
kids would like a rasberrypi device.

-----Original Message-----

From: Duke And Rat
Sent: 22 Feb 2013 07:56:20 GMT
To: HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
continues.

I've mentioned comcast before.

It appears that enough people complained about 7.1, so the KGO Time Machine is
now fixed. YAY!

Except the audio's a little funny on ABC news shows, both local and network.
When they come back from commercial, the audio is low, and slowly creeps up. Oh,
let me guess, it's a comcast problem!




BD




On Feb 21, 2013, at 9:59 PM, bill weber wrote:

> I like hearing about Comcraps problems here. But I don't like the complaints
from individuals that assume OTA broadcasts are the same. Proper full disclosure
from you now on as to what equipment you are using and under what conditions you
are experiencing your problems, hey RAT? Sometimes putting the beer can down
before posting might help..keep posting as I enjoy it.  I mean no malice.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Duke And Rat
> Sent: 22 Feb 2013 03:07:53 GMT
> To: HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
continues.
>
> I'm thinking, that like the movie they showed with 45 MINUTES OF NO SOUND, the
whole package was put together months and months ago by some NBC bigwig who knew
not too much about technical skills. So, EVEN IF THEY DO ACTUALLY READ YOUR
E-MAIL, it would take months, if not years to correct, as it's not helping
Comcast's stock market rating.
>
>
>
>
>
> BD
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 21, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Stephen H. Fischer wrote:
>
>> http://www.avsforum.com/t/369015/san-francisco-ca-ota/9150#post_22995588
>>
>>
>> I have done a bunch of testing and I think I know what is wrong with Cozi.
>>
>>
>> "The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes" (1956) is a 4:3 program which must be
>> upconverted to 16:9. This has been done correctly.
>>
>>
>> Once the up conversion process has been done it is a 16:9 program and must
>> be labeled and treated as 16:9.
>>
>>
>> Somewhere in the PSIP or the MPEG2 file itself there must be a place where
>> the aspect ratio is to be placed but it is blank or invalid.
>>
>>
>> On my newly repaired Vista Laptop (Remember always to use the correct glue
>> when installing your GPU! Or lose $475, thanks NVIDIA) I was able to see
>> that there are two black bands on each side.
>>
>>
>> The outermost band is BLACK and the innermost band is black with SNOW. The
>> inner black SNOW band was added by the up conversion process. The outer
>> BLACK band is added by the Fusion software when it thinks it is displaying a
>> 4:3 picture on a 16:9 device.
>>
>>
>> As most tuners and display programs like VLC Media Player assume 16:9 the
>> BLACK band is not added and there is no problem.
>>
>>
>> Fusion assumed 4:3 and adds the BLACK band when displaying on a 16:9 device.
>> It did not on my spare HTPC which has a 4:3 CPU display.
>>
>>
>> If you see the postage stamp aspect ratio, look closely and I expect you
>> will see the two differing bands.
>>
>>
>> I have sent a message to Cozi but I do not expect an answer.
>>
>>
>> SHF
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>



------------------------------------

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all rat and fischer posts removed for brevity.


-----Original Message-----

From: sipson@...
Sent: 22 Feb 2013 03:44:16 GMT
To: Stephen H. Fischer,HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
continues.

I have been in southern california for a while. None of the problems described
with regard to cozi are occurring down here. Knbc 4.2 is fine, no problem with
aspect ratio. So the problem appears to be local to kntv or comcast.
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: "Stephen H. Fischer" <SFischer1@...>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 03:38:21
To: <HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
  continues.





Hi,

I am hoping that KNTV will somehow get a message that something is wrong and
that those who understand PSIP will become involved.

The problem is that the PSIP looks right, 16:9 is stated in the one place
that if missing would prove my idea.

There are people that care about getting things right and making things
work. That has been my life long personal goal.

The bigwigs make the decisions, they have knowledgeable people to carry out
their orders.

Other stations do not have this problem and KNTV's 11.1 does not for sure.

SHF

----- Original Message -----
From: "Duke And Rat" dukenrat@... <mailto:dukenrat%40sonic.net> >
To: HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com <mailto:HDTV-in-SFbay%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
continues.

> I'm thinking, that like the movie they showed with 45 MINUTES OF NO SOUND,
> the whole package was put together months and months ago by some NBC
> bigwig who knew not too much about technical skills. So, EVEN IF THEY DO
> ACTUALLY READ YOUR E-MAIL, it would take months, if not years to correct,
> as it's not helping Comcast's stock market rating.
>
>
>
>
>
> BD
>





------------------------------------

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Hi,

My equipment list is in my profile on AVS.

http://www.avsforum.com/u/7523129/sfischer1

I have one Fusion5 RT GOLD, one Fusion7 Dual and one Fusion7 USB.

The defective software is version 3.91.00 for all three.

I have a HDTV that is 16:9, one Laptop that is 16:9 and one that is almost
16:9 that it operates like 16:9.

My spare HTPC has a 4:3 CRT monitor.

I first saw a problem with KNTV and started up MyHD to look at the aspect
ratio and saw a blank screen for 11.1 and 11.2.

I then used HDHomeRun' GUI to tune to RF 12 and saw on 11.2 that "COZI" and
"CA-NS" were alternating.

Then the 11.2 stream PSIP disappeared but using MyHD I saw that the stream
was still there.

Then "COZI" appeared and has remained.

--------------------------------------------

When the Postage Stamp for COZI SD programs was reported I looked at 11.2
using all four tuner types I have (7 ATSC tuners in my HTPC, one more in my
HDTV).

Only Fusion showed the Postage Stamp for SD programs, both live tuned to
11.2 and playing back a .tp capture file.

The other OTA report is here, Chuck is ~ 115 miles East of Bruno and has Mt.
Diablo in the way.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/369015/san-francisco-ca-ota/9120#post_22934796

--------------------------------------------

I use TSReader Lite to look at the PSIP and my next task will be to
reinstall VideoReDo and some very old MPEG2 software to look at the SH .tp
file I am saving.

VLC Media player displays a little more about the MPEG2 file but not what I
want to see.

I had a Laptop failure a few weeks age and the motherboard needed to be
replaced in Mexico. Putting the software back will take some time.

SHF

P.S. You and most other viewers may never see the PS problem, reports that
everything is good are of little value, reports of seeing the problem pure
Gold.


----- Original Message -----
From: "bill weber" <bweber2k@...>
To: <HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
continues.


> You duplicated with what equipment? I'm going on a rant
>
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=ODQ11b0_roU&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DODQ11b0_ro\
U
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Stephen H. Fischer
> Sent: 22 Feb 2013 06:26:09 GMT
> To: HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
> continues.
>
> Hi,
>
> It was interesting that I was able to duplicate the problem with 11.2 and
> did not realize that he was on Comcast at the time.
>
> AVS added one more tuner type that displayed the problem. Three is a very
> small number, one Comcast and two OTA.
>
> Having three types of Fusion tuners and both 16:9 and 4:3 displays has
> helped me a lot.
>
> But it goes back to my seeing "COZI" and "CA-NS" alternating as the 11.2
> stream ID, then both disappearing. That was using HDHomerun's live
> display.
> I was able to check that the stream was still there because another tuner
> remembered 11.2. That tuner showed a blank stream initially at that time
> for
> 11.1 and 11.2.
>
> I really still do not have a good handle on what is wrong and have thrown
> several ideas out that have been wrong. I do that a lot, build a model to
> explain how things works and when more information comes in change the
> model
> or throw it away. I now want to extract the MPEG2 and look at it,
> reinstall
> some $$ software to see what it says. Maybe find some very old software I
> have not used in ten years.
>
> AVS and this mailing list are separate, both need to be read to understand
> all the input on this problem.
>
> Yes, I thought the OP was a flake based on previous posts, but once the
> problem was duplicated it became a problem to understand and help with.
>
> I now have gone nationwide asking for help on AVS, but perhaps in the
> wrong
> thread.
>
> SHF
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bill weber" <bweber2k@...>
> To: <HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 9:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
> continues.
>
>
>>I like hearing about Comcraps problems here. But I don't like the
>>complaints from individuals that assume OTA broadcasts are the same.
>>Proper
>>full disclosure from you now on as to what equipment you are using and
>>under what conditions you are experiencing your problems, hey RAT?
>>Sometimes putting the beer can down before posting might help..keep
>>posting
>>as I enjoy it.  I mean no malice.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: Duke And Rat
>> Sent: 22 Feb 2013 03:07:53 GMT
>> To: HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
>> continues.
>>
>> I'm thinking, that like the movie they showed with 45 MINUTES OF NO
>> SOUND,
>> the whole package was put together months and months ago by some NBC
>> bigwig who knew not too much about technical skills. So, EVEN IF THEY DO
>> ACTUALLY READ YOUR E-MAIL, it would take months, if not years to correct,
>> as it's not helping Comcast's stock market rating.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> BD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Stephen H. Fischer wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.avsforum.com/t/369015/san-francisco-ca-ota/9150#post_22995588
>>>
>>>
>>> I have done a bunch of testing and I think I know what is wrong with
>>> Cozi.
>>>
>>>
>>> "The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes" (1956) is a 4:3 program which must
>>> be
>>> upconverted to 16:9. This has been done correctly.
>>>
>>>
>>> Once the up conversion process has been done it is a 16:9 program and
>>> must
>>> be labeled and treated as 16:9.
>>>
>>>
>>> Somewhere in the PSIP or the MPEG2 file itself there must be a place
>>> where
>>> the aspect ratio is to be placed but it is blank or invalid.
>>>
>>>
>>> On my newly repaired Vista Laptop (Remember always to use the correct
>>> glue
>>> when installing your GPU! Or lose $475, thanks NVIDIA) I was able to see
>>> that there are two black bands on each side.
>>>
>>>
>>> The outermost band is BLACK and the innermost band is black with SNOW.
>>> The
>>> inner black SNOW band was added by the up conversion process. The outer
>>> BLACK band is added by the Fusion software when it thinks it is
>>> displaying a
>>> 4:3 picture on a 16:9 device.
>>>
>>>
>>> As most tuners and display programs like VLC Media Player assume 16:9
>>> the
>>> BLACK band is not added and there is no problem.
>>>
>>>
>>> Fusion assumed 4:3 and adds the BLACK band when displaying on a 16:9
>>> device.
>>> It did not on my spare HTPC which has a 4:3 CPU display.
>>>
>>>
>>> If you see the postage stamp aspect ratio, look closely and I expect you
>>> will see the two differing bands.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have sent a message to Cozi but I do not expect an answer.
>>>
>>>
>>> SHF
>>>
>>>
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Hi,

"Duke And Rat", do you have a link to the user manual for your HDTV? If so
please make it available.

Does your HDTV have a menus of "Aspect Ratio's?

Fusion has
"Stretched",
"Original Ratio",
"16:9 Fixed",
"4:3 Fixed",
"4:3 Pan & Scan" and
"16:10 Fixed".

"16:9 Fixed" produces a normal display of Sherlock Holmes on my 16:9
display. Original Ratio is what I normally use for all other of the 105
streams I receive and has been used in all testing.

Chuck has reported that his Sony has an option that cures the PS problem
"I explored the screen settings in the menu and found an option Sony calls
Auto Full Screen. I turned it on and Cozi TV now displays properly."
http://www.avsforum.com/t/369015/san-francisco-ca-ota/9150#post_22939123

I have done some testing with VideoReDo and will be looking at "Magnum, P.I"
on Thursday which I remember was the program you first reported.

I need to do some number crunching then but it appears that Fusion and the
other two tuners affected are ignoring the "16:9" stated in the MPEG2 file
and instead using 704/480 which is 1.4667.

4/3 = 1.3333 and 16/9 = 1.7778.

So it may all be about the screen size in the MPEG2 file.

SHF

Thank you for the additional info. The problem with the avi forums is the lack
of moderation to send threads to archive. This leaves newbie to go through 1000
long threads. All newbies don't know to type "site url question" On sites like
calguns this is passed on numerous times.
It the meantime, I have two diamond ati 650 reference cards in one machine. Only
to find most users just want plug an play. And that is why I asked for machines
in a sig or the body of the message. I have a LG 4200 digital tuner. I use it to
determine if rants like duck&rat's posts are worth responding to. I see now why
we normal users are never hearld through the jetsam.

-----Original Message-----

From: Stephen H. Fischer
Sent: 23 Feb 2013 22:40:01 GMT
To: HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
continues.

Hi,

"Duke And Rat", do you have a link to the user manual for your HDTV? If so
please make it available.

Does your HDTV have a menus of "Aspect Ratio's?

Fusion has
"Stretched",
"Original Ratio",
"16:9 Fixed",
"4:3 Fixed",
"4:3 Pan & Scan" and
"16:10 Fixed".

"16:9 Fixed" produces a normal display of Sherlock Holmes on my 16:9
display. Original Ratio is what I normally use for all other of the 105
streams I receive and has been used in all testing.

Chuck has reported that his Sony has an option that cures the PS problem
"I explored the screen settings in the menu and found an option Sony calls
Auto Full Screen. I turned it on and Cozi TV now displays properly."
http://www.avsforum.com/t/369015/san-francisco-ca-ota/9150#post_22939123

I have done some testing with VideoReDo and will be looking at "Magnum, P.I"
on Thursday which I remember was the program you first reported.

I need to do some number crunching then but it appears that Fusion and the
other two tuners affected are ignoring the "16:9" stated in the MPEG2 file
and instead using 704/480 which is 1.4667.

4/3 = 1.3333 and 16/9 = 1.7778.

So it may all be about the screen size in the MPEG2 file.

SHF





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I just found this report on the TV news site Deadline.com:  NBC is now in 5th
place.  Univision has moved up to 4th.
CBS is in first place, FOX in second place and ABC is in third place.

Read the details here:

http://www.deadline.com/2013/02/nbc-sweeps-ratings-lastloses-to-univision/

Larry

That is so off base and informative at the same time without any knowledge  of
what is real. Most kids do homework or game via steam. All I have to say,
isbgive me scifi or give me politician death tv.

-----Original Message-----

From: Larry Kenney
Sent: 25 Feb 2013 09:18:41 GMT
To: HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HDTV-in-SFbay] NBC in 5th place in Sweeps

I just found this report on the TV news site Deadline.com:  NBC is now in 5th
place.  Univision has moved up to 4th.
CBS is in first place, FOX in second place and ABC is in third place.

Read the details here:

http://www.deadline.com/2013/02/nbc-sweeps-ratings-lastloses-to-univision/

Larry

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Am watching Peter Gunn on Me TV, on a 1959 Philco Predicta. Lotsa buzz in the
audio. People forget that way back in '59, even if you adjusted all of the audio
coils, you still had some buzz when the credits came. And you could count on
having to readjust the whole damn thing a year later, when the tubes aged.

My, how times have changed.


Anybody got a 9BR7? (That's a tube)





BD



On Feb 25, 2013, at 1:18 AM, Larry Kenney wrote:

> I just found this report on the TV news site Deadline.com:  NBC is now in 5th
place.  Univision has moved up to 4th.
> CBS is in first place, FOX in second place and ABC is in third place.
>
> Read the details here:
>
> http://www.deadline.com/2013/02/nbc-sweeps-ratings-lastloses-to-univision/
>
> Larry
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Feel free to say how bad your tv signal is. These individual gave thier freedom
and livs in some cases to be free. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6diBvajpmk

-----Original Message-----

From: Duke And Rat
Sent: 25 Feb 2013 10:36:41 GMT
To: HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] NBC in 5th place in Sweeps

Am watching Peter Gunn on Me TV, on a 1959 Philco Predicta. Lotsa buzz in the
audio. People forget that way back in '59, even if you adjusted all of the audio
coils, you still had some buzz when the credits came. And you could count on
having to readjust the whole damn thing a year later, when the tubes aged.

My, how times have changed.


Anybody got a 9BR7? (That's a tube)





BD



On Feb 25, 2013, at 1:18 AM, Larry Kenney wrote:

> I just found this report on the TV news site Deadline.com:  NBC is now in 5th
place.  Univision has moved up to 4th.
> CBS is in first place, FOX in second place and ABC is in third place.
>
> Read the details here:
>
> http://www.deadline.com/2013/02/nbc-sweeps-ratings-lastloses-to-univision/
>
> Larry
>
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>
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Hi,

The AVS long threads are a problem along with IMHO poor search ability.

Still, if you are subscribed to the threads you want to watch and keep
reading you can gain a lot of information on things you want to learn more
about.

I have 38 subscriptions and seldom post to any others.

I have 12 that usually have posts and I see the same people on most of them.

New persons should go to the end and read backward.

On AVS there are people that are real experts that are subscribed like I am.

Post are usually answered quickly.

HDTV-in-SFbay has a few station engineers, one of which sometimes posts.

Beyond those and Larry, HDTV-in-SFbay is a waste land IMHO.

The COZI problem gets more interesting, I have found two more streams that
are 704/480 (4:3).

Same screen size and marked 4:3 instead of 16:9.

> I use it to determine if rants like duck&rat's posts are worth responding
> to

Usually they are not, this one was. Now if he can just find the right button
on the remote, he will be happy.

SHF



----- Original Message -----
From: "bill weber" <bweber2k@...>
To: <HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
continues.


> Thank you for the additional info. The problem with the avi forums is the
> lack of moderation to send threads to archive. This leaves newbie to go
> through 1000 long threads. All newbies don't know to type "site url
> question" On sites like calguns this is passed on numerous times.
> It the meantime, I have two diamond ati 650 reference cards in one
> machine. Only to find most users just want plug an play. And that is why I
> asked for machines in a sig or the body of the message. I have a LG 4200
> digital tuner. I use it to determine if rants like duck&rat's posts are
> worth responding to. I see now why we normal users are never hearld
> through the jetsam.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Stephen H. Fischer
> Sent: 23 Feb 2013 22:40:01 GMT
> To: HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Cozi Sherlock Holmes Postage Stamp aspect
> continues.
>
> Hi,
>
> "Duke And Rat", do you have a link to the user manual for your HDTV? If so
> please make it available.
>
> Does your HDTV have a menus of "Aspect Ratio's?
>
> Fusion has
> "Stretched",
> "Original Ratio",
> "16:9 Fixed",
> "4:3 Fixed",
> "4:3 Pan & Scan" and
> "16:10 Fixed".
>
> "16:9 Fixed" produces a normal display of Sherlock Holmes on my 16:9
> display. Original Ratio is what I normally use for all other of the 105
> streams I receive and has been used in all testing.
>
> Chuck has reported that his Sony has an option that cures the PS problem
> "I explored the screen settings in the menu and found an option Sony calls
> Auto Full Screen. I turned it on and Cozi TV now displays properly."
> http://www.avsforum.com/t/369015/san-francisco-ca-ota/9150#post_22939123
>
> I have done some testing with VideoReDo and will be looking at "Magnum,
> P.I"
> on Thursday which I remember was the program you first reported.
>
> I need to do some number crunching then but it appears that Fusion and the
> other two tuners affected are ignoring the "16:9" stated in the MPEG2 file
> and instead using 704/480 which is 1.4667.
>
> 4/3 = 1.3333 and 16/9 = 1.7778.
>
> So it may all be about the screen size in the MPEG2 file.
>
> SHF
>