I'm wondering if anyone has advice on antenna setup for receiving the
San Jose KNTV signal in San Francisco.

I've tried a couple setups so far.

   - An indoor radioshack vhf antenna
   - A Winegard YA-6713 50 inch CH 7 to 13 (on the same mast as my UHF-
only Winegard antenna.  On a antenna rotator as I have trouble
getting all channels in one direction)

With the roof setup, the only signal I've seen on channel 12 is a
very short burst as I rotate the antenna around (never long enough to
display a picture; just a blip on my receiver signal strenght read
out.)

Any ideas? Given my lack of success with the 50" antenna, is there
any reason to believe that a larger antenna would help? One cut
specifically to channel 12?

David

I use this Radio Shack antenna:

http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5\
F002%5F004%5F001%5F000&product%5Fid=15%2D1862

for both VHF and UHF reception and can get KNTV pretty
well.  I've tried the double bow-tie, but it didn't
give as good results across the board as this antenna.

don

--- droland <droland@...> wrote:
>
> I'm wondering if anyone has advice on antenna setup
> for receiving the
> San Jose KNTV signal in San Francisco.
>
> I've tried a couple setups so far.
>
>   - An indoor radioshack vhf antenna
>   - A Winegard YA-6713 50 inch CH 7 to 13 (on the
> same mast as my UHF-
> only Winegard antenna.  On a antenna rotator as I
> have trouble
> getting all channels in one direction)
>
> With the roof setup, the only signal I've seen on
> channel 12 is a
> very short burst as I rotate the antenna around
> (never long enough to
> display a picture; just a blip on my receiver signal
> strenght read
> out.)
>
> Any ideas? Given my lack of success with the 50"
> antenna, is there
> any reason to believe that a larger antenna would
> help? One cut
> specifically to channel 12?
>
> David
>
>


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I have yet to see the CBS HD Promo on KPIX. I know
they are inserting local commercials, so I guess they
are not passing through the HD promo. I watched
American Fighter Pilot last Friday night and did not
see the HD promo.

Has anyone seen this on KPIX?

Thanks.

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droland wrote:

 
I'm wondering if anyone has advice on antenna setup for receiving the
San Jose KNTV signal in San Francisco.

I've tried a couple setups so far.

  - An indoor radioshack vhf antenna
  - A Winegard YA-6713 50 inch CH 7 to 13 (on the same mast as my UHF-
only Winegard antenna.  On a antenna rotator as I have trouble
getting all channels in one direction)

With the roof setup, the only signal I've seen on channel 12 is a
very short burst as I rotate the antenna around (never long enough to
display a picture; just a blip on my receiver signal strenght read
out.)

Any ideas? Given my lack of success with the 50" antenna, is there
any reason to believe that a larger antenna would help? One cut
specifically to channel 12?

David
 

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Was the Peacemaker broadcast on KGO on Saturday supposed to be in 5.1
or in ProLogic?  My receiver showed that it was in ProLogic most of
the time with a couple of blips into 5.1 territory.

Stephen Couch wrote:
>
> I have yet to see the CBS HD Promo on KPIX.
<snip>
> Has anyone seen this on KPIX?

I've seen it once on 'PIX, and that was about a
month and a half ago during "CSI" or "Agency"...
can't remember which.  I wasn't paying that much
attention at the time, but after seeing all the
posts about it on the AVS board, I'd like to see
it again.

Larry

I recently picked up an HDTV, and knowing that reception may be an
issue in Walnut Creek (Contra Costa County), also recently picked up
a Samsung SIR-T150 set-top-box to try out and see how it worked.

The short story is, I get no signal whatsoever.  What I don't know is
if this is due to my setup or the box itself.

I am trying out the Radio Shack UHF double-bowtie antenna that I've
read a lot of success stories about.  I'm in a rented condo/townhouse
type of unit, so would not be able to put up a large outdoor
antenna.  When using just the antenna plugged directly into the TV, I
do get several standard UHF stations with varying degrees of success.

Am I "SOL" with this setup in Walnut Creek?  Or should I at least get
some sort of signal, whether from Sacramento or SF, and exchange the
box? (mail-ordered, so just want to make sure I need to before going
through hassle)

As far as I can tell the connections are all setup okay, the STB is
displaying it's menu stuff on the TV fine, and antenna works semi-
okay with standard UHF, I just can't pick up the digital signals.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

I've actually had better luck with this antenna:

http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5\
F002%5F004%5F001%5F000&product%5Fid=15%2D1862

than the double bowtie.  I can pick up more stations
with more signal strength with this guy.  It's a bit
more expensive than the double bowtie, but you could
always return it if it doesn't work out for you.

don

--- brettking <brettking@...> wrote:
> I recently picked up an HDTV, and knowing that
> reception may be an
> issue in Walnut Creek (Contra Costa County), also
> recently picked up
> a Samsung SIR-T150 set-top-box to try out and see
> how it worked.
>
> The short story is, I get no signal whatsoever.
> What I don't know is
> if this is due to my setup or the box itself.
>
> I am trying out the Radio Shack UHF double-bowtie
> antenna that I've
> read a lot of success stories about.  I'm in a
> rented condo/townhouse
> type of unit, so would not be able to put up a large
> outdoor
> antenna.  When using just the antenna plugged
> directly into the TV, I
> do get several standard UHF stations with varying
> degrees of success.
>
> Am I "SOL" with this setup in Walnut Creek?  Or
> should I at least get
> some sort of signal, whether from Sacramento or SF,
> and exchange the
> box? (mail-ordered, so just want to make sure I need
> to before going
> through hassle)
>
> As far as I can tell the connections are all setup
> okay, the STB is
> displaying it's menu stuff on the TV fine, and
> antenna works semi-
> okay with standard UHF, I just can't pick up the
> digital signals.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks
>
>


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brettking wrote:

 I recently picked up an HDTV, and knowing that reception may be an
issue in Walnut Creek (Contra Costa County), also recently picked up
a Samsung SIR-T150 set-top-box to try out and see how it worked.

The short story is, I get no signal whatsoever.  What I don't know is
if this is due to my setup or the box itself.

I am trying out the Radio Shack UHF double-bowtie antenna that I've
read a lot of success stories about.  I'm in a rented condo/townhouse
type of unit, so would not be able to put up a large outdoor
antenna.  When using just the antenna plugged directly into the TV, I
do get several standard UHF stations with varying degrees of success.

Am I "SOL" with this setup in Walnut Creek?  Or should I at least get
some sort of signal, whether from Sacramento or SF, and exchange the
box? (mail-ordered, so just want to make sure I need to before going
through hassle)

As far as I can tell the connections are all setup okay, the STB is
displaying it's menu stuff on the TV fine, and antenna works semi-
okay with standard UHF, I just can't pick up the digital signals.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

An antennas performance is highly dependant on what is between it and the transmitter.  Just because somebody else has good luck with a particular antenna does not mean that it will work everywhere.  In Walnut Creek you will probably need a large outdoor antenna with a pre-amp to get it to work.

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Get a Hipix and I can get you a copy of it.  They show it ad nauseam on the
CBS affiliate in Sacramento.  Thank god the Hipix has fast forward
capabilities....if I had to watch that entire thing one more time I'd
completely lose it!!!

R8der
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 1:25 PM
Subject: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Re: CBS HD Promo and KPIX


> Stephen Couch wrote:
> >
> > I have yet to see the CBS HD Promo on KPIX.
> <snip>
> > Has anyone seen this on KPIX?
>
> I've seen it once on 'PIX, and that was about a
> month and a half ago during "CSI" or "Agency"...
> can't remember which.  I wasn't paying that much
> attention at the time, but after seeing all the
> posts about it on the AVS board, I'd like to see
> it again.
>
> Larry
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I'm not sure whether it's me or not, but I'm getting horrible reception both of
my dual LNB DirecTV setup and my OTA setup. Both go through a Sony SAT-HD100,
and both have been performing well.

In the last week, though, I've been getting dropouts on both. Odd, because the
only thing they have in common is the SAT-HD100. I'm in Burlingame, and have
pretty good visibility both north and south.

On the OTA side of things, I rotate the mast towards Sutro, and where I used to
get signal strength of 80 or so, I was getting wildly fluctuating signal of
40-60, and rarely would it lock for more than a few seconds.

Very sad...good thing the game wasn't much to watch tonight.  :-(

did you have the OTA alone working fine before activating directv?

this was my experience. soon after activating directv, everything went
to hell. dropouts, a/v sync problems, etc. on OTA. strangely enough
HDNet always worked okay though. bottom line was that i had to send my
SAT-HD100 back to sony to have the firmware updated, because
apparently direcTV is no longer sending them.

to see your firmware patches screen, press exit,exit,7,7,7,7,3,exit
there are 4 patches: 256,1543,1187 and 2049.

on the other hand, given your antenna signal readings, maybe your
tuner died?

rob



  > I'm not sure whether it's me or not, but I'm getting horrible
  > reception both of my dual LNB DirecTV setup and my OTA setup. Both go
  > through a Sony SAT-HD100, and both have been performing well.
  >
  > In the last week, though, I've been getting dropouts on both. Odd,
  > because the only thing they have in common is the SAT-HD100. I'm in
  > Burlingame, and have pretty good visibility both north and south.
  >
  > On the OTA side of things, I rotate the mast towards Sutro, and where
  > I used to get signal strength of 80 or so, I was getting wildly
  > fluctuating signal of 40-60, and rarely would it lock for more than a
  > few seconds.
  >
  > Very sad...good thing the game wasn't much to watch tonight.  :-(
  >

Steve-

I'm using the SAT-HD100 in Foster City with a
multi-sat dish and a Terk TV55 (mounted indoors).  I
don't think I'm experiencing the problems you
describe, although I have heard that some are unhappy
with the SAT-HD100 for various reasons.

If it is helpful, I have had the following problems:
1) on occassion, I seem to get a flicker or momentary
blink (that's the best way I can describe it) when
watching on through the SAT-HD100.  I don't think its
the satellite feed or the OTA feed, however, because I
see it sometimes when I am in the menu screen.  I have
a feeling it may be related to all of the power cords
I have behind my system.  When I tried to get the
power cords segregated from the other video cables,
this seemed to clear up this flickering or blinking.

The only other problem I've experienced is with the
OTA reception.  I've noted before in this group that
my OTA reception is affected depeding on how the cable
going from the antenna to the TV and SAT-HD100 is
positioned or lays.  I have the antenna mounted on a
second floor railing inside.  I've mounted the cable
(which is a Monster 3 Cable RG-6 6 meter F-pin) in a
way that I now receive all channels from Sutro and
channel 12-1 from Loma Prieta.  Before, with different
cable positioning, I was having problems getting 12-1,
9-1 and 29-1 all at the same time.  I've since come to
believe that the problems I was experiencing were due
to multipath effects and that the position of the
cable was contributing to multipath problems.

I'm not sure that this is helpful, but sometimes
knowing about the problems others have experienced
using the same equipment can shed some light.

-Dave

--- Steve Maller <steve@...> wrote:
> I'm not sure whether it's me or not, but I'm getting
> horrible reception both of
> my dual LNB DirecTV setup and my OTA setup. Both go
> through a Sony SAT-HD100,
> and both have been performing well.
>
> In the last week, though, I've been getting dropouts
> on both. Odd, because the
> only thing they have in common is the SAT-HD100. I'm
> in Burlingame, and have
> pretty good visibility both north and south.
>
> On the OTA side of things, I rotate the mast towards
> Sutro, and where I used to
> get signal strength of 80 or so, I was getting
> wildly fluctuating signal of
> 40-60, and rarely would it lock for more than a few
> seconds.
>
> Very sad...good thing the game wasn't much to watch
> tonight.  :-(
>
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> brettking wrote:
> > ...
> > The short story is, I get no signal whatsoever.  What I don't
> > know is if this is due to my setup or the box itself.
     ...
> > I'm in a rented condo/townhouse type of unit, so would not be
> > able to put up a large outdoor antenna.
     ...
> > Any thoughts?


> In Walnut Creek you will probably need a large outdoor antenna
> with a pre-amp to get it to work.
> Chris


I believe a huge bay area audience will be locked out of HDTV
and digital TV because like Brett, they live in condos or
apartments with nothing but cable TV connections and rules
that prevent them from putting an antenna or dish on the roof.

Limited to indoor OTA, only those lucky to be in a good
location for reception will be able to get digital quality,
assuming you realize AT&T "Digital" Cable is NOT digital TV.

When, if ever, will the "MUST CARRY" rules that cable TV
operators obey also apply to the digital channels?  And at
what signal quality or image resolution?  When we educate our
elected officials that "regulate" the cable monopolies,
I suppose.

Every now and then my audio gets noticeably out of sync with the video
on my DST-3000. It will continue this way for minutes at a time, and
then "fix" itself. This happens while I am watching local cable TV,
and upconverting video to 1080i (I am always in this video mode).

Is this a bug in the Toshiba STB? Will they fix it w. new firmware?

I have the Toshiba DST-3000. No matter what digital TV channel I
watch, the video is upconverted (if needed) to 1080i. This is fine,
but I would really like to know what format is being transmitted by
the station, there being quite a multiplicity of choices. (Of course,
even this doesn't necessarily relate back to the original source
material, which can be pretty crofty in many cases!).

Other than just guessing by observing the images and artifacts, is
there anyway to learn this from the DST-3000? It would be LOVELY if it
were on the "Info" screen(s).

----- Original Message -----

From: hsaal

To: HDTV-in-SFbay@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:46 AM

Subject: [HDTV-in-SFbay] OTA video mode detection?

I have the Toshiba DST-3000. No matter what digital TV channel I
watch, the video is upconverted (if needed) to 1080i. This is fine,
but I would really like to know what format is being transmitted by
the station, there being quite a multiplicity of choices. (Of course,
even this doesn't necessarily relate back to the original source
material, which can be pretty crofty in many cases!).

Other than just guessing by observing the images and artifacts, is
there anyway to learn this from the DST-3000? It would be LOVELY if it
were on the "Info" screen(s).



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Pending on weather conditions, there are plans to work
on Sutro Tower Wednesday, Thursday and Friday of this
week (April 3-5) from about 9 am to 3:30 pm.

Analog stations will switch to their alternate antennas
during the work period.  All of the digital stations
will be off the air during this time.

So if you turn on your TV and get none of the digital
channels from Sutro, you'll know that it's because of
the tower work and not due to a problem with your TV.

Larry

Howdy, Harry:

I see R8der answered your question about the broadcast
resolution of local bay area stations. The DST3000
doesn't provide broadcast resolution. R8der and many
more in this group have the Telemann Hipix HDTV PCI
card in our PCs. The latest beta software for this
card displays the broadcast resolution. I'm not aware
of any STBs that have this feature.

Off this topic, I'm very glad KTVU bought a 720p
encoder. WHEN Faux realizes their error in
standardizing on 480p, they will have to change to one
of the HD formats. KTVU will be ready. I wonder how
many other Fox stations across the nation did this
same thing. I understand the cost difference of the
480p vs. 720p/1080i equipment is minor.

I truly believe this will happen due to economic
conditions. I foresee Faux having reduced advertising
revenues due to their lower broadcast resolution. I
think once Nielsen starts collecting DTV data, the
advertisers will see that a highly desirable
demographic group is NOT watching Faux because of
their less than HD resolution.

--- hsaal <Harry@...> wrote:
> I have the Toshiba DST-3000. No matter what digital
> TV channel I
> watch, the video is upconverted (if needed) to
> 1080i. This is fine,
> but I would really like to know what format is being
> transmitted by
> the station, there being quite a multiplicity of
> choices. (Of course,
> even this doesn't necessarily relate back to the
> original source
> material, which can be pretty crofty in many
> cases!).
>
> Other than just guessing by observing the images and
> artifacts, is
> there anyway to learn this from the DST-3000? It
> would be LOVELY if it
> were on the "Info" screen(s).
>
>


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Thanks for the heads up, Larry. Do you know what is
being repaired or upgraded?

--- Larry Kenney <Larry@...> wrote:
> Pending on weather conditions, there are plans to
> work
> on Sutro Tower Wednesday, Thursday and Friday of
> this
> week (April 3-5) from about 9 am to 3:30 pm.
>
> Analog stations will switch to their alternate
> antennas
> during the work period.  All of the digital stations
>
> will be off the air during this time.
>
> So if you turn on your TV and get none of the
> digital
> channels from Sutro, you'll know that it's because
> of
> the tower work and not due to a problem with your
> TV.
>
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 Howdy, Harry:
 

Off this topic, I'm very glad KTVU bought a 720p
encoder. WHEN Faux realizes their error in
standardizing on 480p, they will have to change to one
of the HD formats. KTVU will be ready. I wonder how
many other Fox stations across the nation did this
same thing. I understand the cost difference of the
480p vs. 720p/1080i equipment is minor.

I truly believe this will happen due to economic
conditions.

According to my contacts over at KTVU, only a few of the Fox affiliates bought encoders capable of broadcasting 720p (KTVU's encoder will do both 720p and 1080i).  This means if Fox wished to change to full 720p programming, most of the affiliates would need new equipment.  I'm afraid we are stuck with 480p for quite a while.  Is 480p really all that bad?  In my opinion no.  We don't want to go broadcasting to Fox that we think it looks ok mind you.....we should continue to fight the battle for full bandwidth HDTV.  However, 480p programming is far superior to 480i.....at least Fox hasn't taken the NBC approach of showing next to nothing in a format superior to 480i.

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Thanks for the notice, Larry!
Would that also explain why my Dish6000
suddenly re-mapped KGO's PSIP last night
from digital channel 7 back to 24?

-Mark in Morgan Hill


--- In HDTV-in-SFbay@y..., Larry Kenney <Larry@h...> wrote:
> Pending on weather conditions, there are plans to work
> on Sutro Tower Wednesday, Thursday and Friday of this
> week (April 3-5) from about 9 am to 3:30 pm.
>
> Analog stations will switch to their alternate antennas
> during the work period.  All of the digital stations
> will be off the air during this time.
>
> So if you turn on your TV and get none of the digital
> channels from Sutro, you'll know that it's because of
> the tower work and not due to a problem with your TV.
>
> Larry

rdmears wrote:

 > brettking wrote:
> > ...
> > The short story is, I get no signal whatsoever.  What I don't
> > know is if this is due to my setup or the box itself.
    ...
> > I'm in a rented condo/townhouse type of unit, so would not be
> > able to put up a large outdoor antenna.
    ...
> > Any thoughts?
 

> In Walnut Creek you will probably need a large outdoor antenna
> with a pre-amp to get it to work.
> Chris
 

I believe a huge bay area audience will be locked out of HDTV
and digital TV because like Brett, they live in condos or
apartments with nothing but cable TV connections and rules
that prevent them from putting an antenna or dish on the roof.

Limited to indoor OTA, only those lucky to be in a good
location for reception will be able to get digital quality,
assuming you realize AT&T "Digital" Cable is NOT digital TV.

When, if ever, will the "MUST CARRY" rules that cable TV
operators obey also apply to the digital channels?  And at
what signal quality or image resolution?  When we educate our
elected officials that "regulate" the cable monopolies,
I suppose.
 
 

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madison_eric wrote:

 I just got my DirecTV system and need to get an antenna to receive
the local DTV signals.  (RCA Model DTC100 Decoder)

What antenna should I buy that will allow me to pick up the the DTV
signals from both the SF & SJ stations.. and where should I buy?

I am not sure of my exact lat/long coordinates, but I am very close
(1 mile east) to the Highway 17 & Highway 85 intersections.

Thanks in advance,

-Eric
 
 

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This actually happened to me over the weekend.

don

--- mcds54 <mds54@...> wrote:
> Thanks for the notice, Larry!
> Would that also explain why my Dish6000
> suddenly re-mapped KGO's PSIP last night
> from digital channel 7 back to 24?
>
> -Mark in Morgan Hill
>
>
> --- In HDTV-in-SFbay@y..., Larry Kenney <Larry@h...>
> wrote:
> > Pending on weather conditions, there are plans to
> work
> > on Sutro Tower Wednesday, Thursday and Friday of
> this
> > week (April 3-5) from about 9 am to 3:30 pm.
> >
> > Analog stations will switch to their alternate
> antennas
> > during the work period.  All of the digital
> stations
> > will be off the air during this time.
> >
> > So if you turn on your TV and get none of the
> digital
> > channels from Sutro, you'll know that it's because
> of
> > the tower work and not due to a problem with your
> TV.
> >
> > Larry
>
>


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Chris (and others)

You bring up a question I have about using the ATSC input of the
HiPix card as a replacement for the AT&T digital cable box.  I am
thinking of purchasing a HiPix card- will it decode the AT&T digital
cable feed?  Just the digital channels?  Use the NTSC input for the
analog channels?

- Phil

--- In HDTV-in-SFbay@y..., Chris Rempel <chrisrem@r...> wrote:
>
[snip]

> I agree with most of what you are saying.  However digital cable is
> digital TV, just not with the potential to be high definition.  So
yes
> there is a difference.  And most cable systems when they sell you a
> digital cable package along with the digital cable box, only give
you a
> few extra channels in MPEG 2 Standard definition.  All of the rest
are
> still analog!
>
> Chris
>
.

What?  Look into my eyes and tell me you don't think there is much
difference between 480p and 1080i, OK, then, what set do you have?  Really?
I would have thought the picture on that unit was better than that...

But I agree that 480p kicks 480i in the teeth and that NBC is sure not the
same NBC that lead the color revolution with that damn peacock...

   -Randy


--- R8der <r8der@...> wrote:
> Is 480p really all that bad?  In my opinion no.
>   ...at least Fox hasn't taken the NBC approach of
> showing next to nothing in a format superior to 480i.
>
> R8der

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Randy,

Don't get me wrong....I much prefer 1080i or 720p over 480p.  Yes, I can
tell the difference.  What my point is......at least Fox has made some
effort to show something better than 480i, and to be honest it doesn't look
"bad".

There are some willing to throw themselves into traffic to get Fox to listen
to their demands for 720p (or 1080i for those of you with sets incapable of
showing 720p....;-).....I'm not one of them.  To me, a station broadcasting
1080i while multicasting a 480i signal are creating a more unwatchable
picture than Fox's 480p.  That is where the focus of our fight should
be....multicasting be damned!

R8der
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Spencer" <israndy@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [HDTV-in-SFbay] OTA video mode detection?


> What?  Look into my eyes and tell me you don't think there is much
> difference between 480p and 1080i, OK, then, what set do you have?
Really?
> I would have thought the picture on that unit was better than that...
>
> But I agree that 480p kicks 480i in the teeth and that NBC is sure not the
> same NBC that lead the color revolution with that damn peacock...
>
>   -Randy
>
>
> --- R8der <r8der@...> wrote:
> > Is 480p really all that bad?  In my opinion no.
> >   ...at least Fox hasn't taken the NBC approach of
> > showing next to nothing in a format superior to 480i.
> >
> > R8der
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p_c_klein wrote:

 Chris (and others)

You bring up a question I have about using the ATSC input of the
HiPix card as a replacement for the AT&T digital cable box.  I am
thinking of purchasing a HiPix card- will it decode the AT&T digital
cable feed?  Just the digital channels?  Use the NTSC input for the
analog channels?

- Phil
 

Chris
 
 
 

 
--- In HDTV-in-SFbay@y..., Chris Rempel <chrisrem@r...> wrote:
>
[snip]

> I agree with most of what you are saying.  However digital cable is
> digital TV, just not with the potential to be high definition.  So
yes
> there is a difference.  And most cable systems when they sell you a
> digital cable package along with the digital cable box, only give
you a
> few extra channels in MPEG 2 Standard definition.  All of the rest
are
> still analog!
>
> Chris
>
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Stephen Couch wrote:
> Thanks for the heads up, Larry. Do you know what is
> being repaired or upgraded?

I think it's just maintenance on the tower itself,
plus changing the navigation light bulbs.

Today, they were done doing their work by 11:10 am.

Larry