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Re: Media Monitors and information gathering

By Bob Gould

I'm fascinated by the outburst of abuse and rather forced indignation
at the legitimate questions I've asked about two things: the
apparently recent practice of Media Monitors of recording workers'
meetings with an eye onselling the recordings to clients who clearly
don't have trade union interests at heart, and the the apparent role
in this procedure of a bloke who is figure in the Socialist Alliance.

None of my questions have been answered, I've just been subjected to a
torrent of abuse, which speaks volumes about the political approach of
all the people involved.

Something very interesting to me is the considerable hostility to Dean
Mighell that is emerging in several of the contributions. While
weeping crocodile tears about the treatment of Mighell by Rudd, a
number of contributors blithely imply that he's not telling the truth
about the events.

Rohan Gaiswinkler and the man who has serially slandered me, Raven,
both imply that Mighell is not telling the truth, and Peter Murray
comes straight out and says he's not telling the truth.

Well, up to Friday of last week, when the story broke, the DSP
leadership apparently thought Mighell was telling the truth. In an
article in the current Green Left Weekly, obviously written before
last Friday, peddling the DSP's Third Period line on the Labor Party,
titled "Don't be fooled by the two-party con trick", Graeme Matthews
has this to say, in passing: "Responding to illegally taped comments
by Dean Mighell, Victorian Electrical Trades Union secretary, to a
delegates' meeting last year on the success of pattern bargaining,
Gillard said: 'That's not what Labor's policy is about.'"

The question of the role of Media Monitors as an organisation that
collects information about the workers movement with an eye to selling
it to commercial clients that are hostile to the labour movement is
pretty important in the current reactionary political climate. So,
also, is the apparent involvement of a personality in the Socialist
Alliance in the activities of Media Monitors in this respect.

These are important questions that won't go away. Engage in as much
spin as you like, and pour as much abuse on me and, to a lesser extent
Marcus Strom, as you like, but these questions still won't go away.
You can also start questioning Dean Mighell's veracity, if you like,
as some contributors have done, but my instinct is that you'll pay a
big political price if you choose to go very far down that path.

These very important questions require an adequate and concrete reply
on the circumstances surrounding the activities of Media Monitors and
the particular circumstances surrounding the meeting last November,
and I await a proper reply to my questions.






Thu Jun 7, 2007 12:19 am

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He was only doing his job, implied Sue Bolton and says Peter Murray By Bob Gould The unjustified pressure on Dean Mighell to resign from the Labor Party, and...
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Jun 6, 2007
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Bob makes reference to the Media Monitors' employee who taped the speech of Dean Mighell's that was used by the ALP as an excuse to expell Dean from the ALP. I...
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Jun 6, 2007
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One thing which I forgot to mention when I replied to Bob Gould's post before is that Bob's slanderous comments mask the real issue - that the ALP is using...
Sue Bolton
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Jun 6, 2007
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IMHO, Sue, to Q1 below, Yes. BUT, this business is becoming a distraction because sectarians are using it, just as Rudd used it, to get political "enemies". ...
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Jun 6, 2007
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Dear Sue This whole business is a bit of a distraction, but worth getting clear. Dean Mighell and the ETU repeatedly refer to the recording of his speech as...
Marcus Ström
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Jun 6, 2007
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No, Marcus, there is the perfectly plausible position that nobody is lying. The meeting was a triumphal "we stuck it up them" EBA reportback. The media was...
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Jun 6, 2007
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Spin doctor Sue By Bob Gould Sue Bolton in her two contributions on the question of Media Monitors is engaged in what might kindly be called spin doctoring. ...
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Jun 6, 2007
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Regarding Dean, the ETU, and others Alas, yet again it has become clear that there is clearly no longer any place in the ALP for blokes like Dean Mighell,and...
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Robert Walks like, talks like etc You did accuse that person in your usual verbiage of exactly what Sue Bolton says. Unless you want to use Howard-like hair...
socfem59
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Jun 6, 2007
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... This is pretty lame, Bob. Or at least it raises some interesting questions about who is "in authority in the DSP". Alan Bradley...
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Jun 7, 2007
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Actually, Sue is ``someone in authority in the DSP''. Bob's sectarian paranoia is getting the better of him....
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Jun 7, 2007
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Bob, As a millionaire boss, as a long time apologist for the ALP, as a defender of the indefensible; as a figleaf for that travesty of a travesty, the NSW...
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It is seldom that I feel any real urge to contribute to the discussion on this list even though I now have more regular access to the internet. But the recent...
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By Bob Gould I'm fascinated by the outburst of abuse and rather forced indignation at the legitimate questions I've asked about two things: the apparently...
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Jun 7, 2007
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... I opened my email today to find a deluge of postings on this topic. I could pass comment myself, of course, but agree with the above (clipped) remarks and...
Jonathan Strauss
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Jun 7, 2007
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By Bob Gould People engaged in spin, particularly those like the verbally abusive Peter Murray, should at least try to get their story straight and be fairly...
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"I find the attacks on Mighell by ostensible leftists such as Murray and Raven, when he's under attack from the right in all its forms, deeply offensive as a...
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Thanks Alex. Bob Gould obviously thinks he can get away with the usual Big Lie campaign. I didn't attack Dean once, let alone the multiples that Gould's...
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Let's get the story straight, Robert. Some decades ago you ditched revolutionary politics to disappear into the anti- worker swamp that is NSW ALP politics....
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