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Re: Re Socialist Trade Union Organising Group

Paul Benedek wrote:
> Put simply, the Alliance is a challenge to the ALP - the tiny STUOG
> does not appear to be - and the extent to which it splits socialist
> forces, its a gift to those who like to see us divided.

What this suggests is that the Alliance needs to take a friendly
stance to the STUOG, aimed at ending the division.

If the STUOG is successful in attracting serious forces and people, it
is likely that this will be possible. If the STUOG is a sectarian
plaything, it will not be.

Either way, the Alliance should not, under any circumstances, become
"the problem" - that is, erect needless obstacles to collaboration and
possible unity.

Of course, that doesn't tell us everything we need to know about what
to do in situations like the WA ETU election, unfortunately. Making
choices in such situations can be difficult, and errors are possible.
Obviously, people who are on the ground and familiar with the
situation are going to be primarily responsible for such choices, so
we will be dependent on them getting it right. That's fine, of course,
because being able to make such choices is one of the skills a
political activist (leader) needs to develop, and if they make
mistakes in doing so, that's how they will learn.

One of the tasks of projects like the Socialist Alliance, and
hopefully the STUOG, is unleashing the full potential of the members
of the socialist movement - to allow them to become genuine, rather
than merely potential, leaders of the working class. This will
necessarily involve a certain amount of trial and error.

It would be good if the STUOG is successful. Serious people will
recognise other serious people. Let's make sure that the Socialist
Alliance are serious people!

Alan Bradley




Sun Aug 17, 2003 11:06 am

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David So is this an initiative of the Socialist Party? I notice that the Socialist Trade Union Organising Group page (it seems hastily prepared/not spell...
Pip, Peter & Zoe
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Aug 16, 2003
8:21 am

I cannot speak for David Murray, but I think Peter will find that the Socialist Party does not/or would not support the creation of a new workers party by...
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Aug 16, 2003
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Regardless of anything else, I think that the Socialist Alliance needs to find out what the STUOC project is about. If the GLW stance on the WA ETU elections...
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Aug 16, 2003
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... David PB:So is this an initiative of the Socialist Party? I notice that the Socialist Trade Union Organising Group page (it seems hastily prepared/not...
david murray
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Aug 16, 2003
8:43 pm

... So the Socialist Trade Union Organising Group is SP-initiated, but has become broader.....but the Socialist Alliance has 'become a complete farce'? This...
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Aug 17, 2003
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... What this suggests is that the Alliance needs to take a friendly stance to the STUOG, aimed at ending the division. If the STUOG is successful in...
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Aug 17, 2003
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Paul, I said that the STUOG was broad based. I didn't say it was a powerful organisation which is preparing to put up the barricades. As opposed to the...
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[MARXIST DEFINITIONS: 1a ]farce: Mixture of ground raw chicken and mushrooms with pistachios and truffles and onions and parsley and lots of butter and bound...
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