That kinda makes sense, since then the Tonto trail mileages would jibe for somebody hiking along the Tonto, who ain't gonna cross up over the neck of the mesa....
Hi John, According to "TOPO! Arizona," it's 4.3 miles from the Grandview trailhead to the Hance Creek campsite and another 5.7 miles along the Tonto from Hance...
I would like to try the West Tonto Trail starting at the South Bass Trailhead and finishing at Hermits Trailhead. I can only do it in mid December. Does...
That Horseshoe Mesa is great, ever hike out to the ends of the two arms?--- In Grand_Canyon_Hikers@yahoogroups.com, "johngeyles" ... the ... your ... of ... ...
I don't think there is any way that Tanner to river is 6.9 miles (verses official 9.0 miles), and New Hance is 5.3 miles (verses 8.0)! I know how fast my...
fyi... the link below will give you a pretty good idea on coverage above the rim. Map indicates coverage is limited to NR developed area and not NK TH but some...
Hey there Butch: Chances are you would have a great trip almost no matter what. However, you need to be prepared for temps in the 30's at night, rain, wind and...
Thanks for posting that link, Sam. Looks like there might be some coverage along the Clear Creek trail(?). Might be worth it to toss my Tracfone in the...
Bill, By "according to TOPO!" I assume you mean tracing the trail with one of the drawing tools and then using TOPO to determine the distance of the line you...
I have an odd question: What would this group consider proper "snoring etiquette" for the Phantom Ranch dorms? Here's the problem: My husband sleeps pretty...
Hi John, Yes, I hand trace the trails using the drawing tool. The software's 7'.5 maps are scanned USGS 1:24,000 scale quadrangles. It's not that difficult to...
Hi Dave, It's not that difficult to accurately trace trails in the software. Of course, if the trail on the map (7'.5 USGS quadrangles) isn't accurate, then...
My dearest of dear friends, After a lot of sweat and testing, I am pleased and proud to announce that my new website, Ralph Spoilsport Motors is ready for...
I hate our list- because it doesn't allow me to put clickable links in a message. Any of the other lists I'm on don't seem to have this trouble, so I can only...
Included clickable links work for me, including the one in your posting, and always have IIRC. Don't be diss'ing our admin, yo, ya feel me ? (too much "Wire"...
No worries. Option 1 with extra plugs is plenty considerate....and about all you can do ! You can give him a hard time in good fun the next morn if he...
Rosemary - I am a huge snorer, so I am looking forward to what others have to say. My experience with other backpackers has convinced me to never stay in the...
Rosemary - I am a huge snorer, so I am looking forward to what others have to say. My experience with other backpackers has convinced me to never stay in the...
Sorry, didn't mean to come on quite so strong, just frustrated. But if the links work for you, they must surely work for others. I'm not going to worry about...
Anybody who shows up at a Phantom Ranch dorm without earplugs (and who is bothered by snoring at all) probably has such poor planning skills that they ...
* Is anyone hiking on the Tonto trail soon who could take a short side hike down Lonetree Canyon and take a photo? Jim Knipmeyer has asked me to post this...
Good point... another option would be to camp at Bright Angel near the creek. The noise from the water drowns out pretty much any snoring. I couldn't hear...
... From: johngeyles ... John, I totally agree! I'm a light sleeper, but am also a snorer myself sometimes, so I've been on both sides of this issue. I quit...
I'm a newbie here on this forum--first post, though I've been lurking for some time. I have learned so much form reading these threads. I'd like to share my...
Ever try the new USGS Mapcard.com ? Its like the TopoZone but better and at only $19.95 a year you can do anything look and where in the US,Alaska and Hawaii....
Looks like theres pretty good coverage above the rims of the Paria/Buckskin Canyon where I plan to be exploring in a couple months. I have a Verizon wireless...
I am so grateful for all the Grand Canyon Trip Reports web sites I discovered from this Yahoo Group. Passionate as I am of the GC, these sites are a gold mine...
I too am grateful of all the knowledge that one can glean from members of this group and from all of the trip reports available. I have written a couple up...
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