We never get to see old fashioned useless misogynists anymore. Misogyny still exists in in literature but it become sinister. It's most likely Freud's fault,...
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Oct 4, 1999 4:16 am
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One thing that struck me as I read about Thias Bede's death is how no one mentions anything about money. No one says we'll have to cut back a bit since Father...
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Oct 4, 1999 4:56 am
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Hi Cassia & all, There is mentions made of both Seth, Adam & working men in general needing to be mature enough to support a wife. Ideally it seems they...
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Oct 4, 1999 10:15 pm
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Although we are told that Lisbeth doesn't like Hetty we never see them interacting. The time they are even within close proximity of one another is in Chapter...
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Oct 5, 1999 5:06 am
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Sharon, You are absolutely correct, if Hetty were a Henry no body would think of her marrying. And it is also historically incorrect for her class and time....
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Oct 5, 1999 11:51 pm
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One of the things I've always envied about the parties I've read about in old books is the range of ages that appear at the parties. Arthur's twenty-first is...
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Oct 6, 1999 12:41 am
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I like this bit: (Chapter 19 Church) 'Mr Poyser had no reason to be ashamed of his leg, and suspected that the growing abuse of top-boots and other fashions...
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Oct 7, 1999 3:20 am
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AB is much more loosely written than the other works we've read. This gives GE ample room to write about a wider range of people than she chose to in her ...
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Oct 7, 1999 3:31 am
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This question is meant mainly for male list members: at the party Adam sees Hetty being rather petulant when Totty is sitting in her lap. Mary Burge looks on...
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Oct 7, 1999 3:39 am
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Book the Fourth Chapter 27 A Crisis A few weeks later Adam is at the Chase making repairs. Adam looks forward to the extra work since he thinks he can get...
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Oct 8, 1999 3:38 am
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Hey Cassia, This is totally off the beaten path... In the next year there is a very strong likihood that I'll be moving to London. Do you have any helpful...
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Oct 8, 1999 9:17 pm
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GE has a gift for poking fun at the upperclasses when they are sticking up up their noses at the common folk. She gave us Mrs Cadwalleder making fun of the ...
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Oct 11, 1999 3:23 am
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Does Hetty ever stop to think what love means besides presents, some cuddles and a wedding at the end? And a wedding is her goal. What else does life have to...
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Oct 11, 1999 3:34 am
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Hi Cassia & all, I'm not much on organized religion, particularly the intolerant hellfire & brimstone damnation sort. I'd tend to agree with GE that the...
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Oct 11, 1999 4:56 pm
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If one of religions functions is to givea community moral cohesion religion can do that with gentle reminders. Trying to scare people into conformity backfires...
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Oct 13, 1999 1:53 am
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As I read Chapter 27 A Crisis I began to wonder about Adam's way of courting Hetty: he's always working and always glad to work, planning for the future but...
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Oct 13, 1999 2:08 am
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I just finished a very funny novel called _Nuerotica_ Sue Margolis. I'm not going to review the book right now, for the most part not important. However, an...
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Oct 14, 1999 2:19 am
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The one thing I dislike about Arthur is his reaction after to Adam's advice after Adam knocks him out: he relises Adam's words are true but he clings to his...
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Oct 14, 1999 2:46 am
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... Hi Cassia, people don't get there is a payoff in giving one's time and enegy to something other than a monetary cause. Dinah is a perfect example of giving...
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Oct 14, 1999 7:35 pm
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Book The Fourth Chapter 34 The Betrothal Hetty takes the children to church on her own due to Rachel's illness. After church Adam and Hetty send the kiddies...
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Oct 15, 1999 12:10 am
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GE displays a masterly touch in her portrait of Arthur Donnithorne.He is the seducer of melodrama-he doesn't intend to do Hetty harm. He isn't completely ...
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Oct 15, 1999 12:41 am
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Sharon, I think you're right and this is the reason the Adam-Hetty relationship seems a bit absurd. They never do anything for each other, it's as if they...
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Oct 16, 1999 12:58 am
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As we've discussed before, Hetty has the fewest inner resources of any of the GE heroines we've read about thus far. She doesn't have the passion of Dorothea...
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Oct 16, 1999 12:41 am
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I think Hetty is most like Fred of all the characters we've read before: full of potential but a bit lost at present. What do you think? Cassia ...
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Oct 16, 1999 1:11 am
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I can see why Mrs Poyser had trouble holding her tongue when the Old Squire came to call his peering at her:...with his short-sighted eyes--a mode of looking...
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Oct 16, 1999 11:51 pm
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What does everyone think of the novel thus far? No matter where you are in the book if you could just send a couple of ideas I'd appreciate it. Here's what I...
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Oct 17, 1999 12:01 am
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GE is essentially a historical novelist. Although she doesn't deal with an era far removed from the audience she was writing for, she tends to set things...
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Oct 18, 1999 12:38 am
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Hi Cassia, Like all the other GE we've read, tis my first time through. I actually find many of the characters annoying, Mrs Poyser, the Squire, Lisbeth. But...
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Oct 18, 1999 1:19 am
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Sharon, So you don't like Mrs Poyser? I do rather. She's such an opinionated busibody it difficult for me not to find her amusing. Although I wish she'd ...
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Oct 20, 1999 4:13 am
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Hetty is much more still and focused now that Arthur is away. Even Mrs Poyser notices she improves in her work. She's less unhappy once hope is gone. She no...