Hi Benjamin, as you know we discussed this issue on the GHCL (e.g. for a summary and listing of other posts re: analysis of Robbins' claims re:CVT allegedly...
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kj
ghclist1
Jul 6, 2006 10:50 am
Hi Mike, perhaps you can now better appreciate why it is that with "friends" like Sean, Clark needs no enemies and why there continues to be such animosity ...
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kj
ghclist1
Jul 7, 2006 1:54 pm
Thanks JX . . . . if you don't mind, I'll answer in this way. Clark was explicit that truths or thoughts (or propositions) do not exist independently of a...
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ghclist1
Jul 7, 2006 11:59 pm
Continuation re: Person for any interested. Hi Forrest and Mike et al . . . . To clarify my earlier shorthand, the Clark's books I referenced are as follows: I...
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ghclist1
Jul 10, 2006 6:13 pm
On Trinity/Person Godhead.. Mike you wrote, >>It is misleading to say, as Karel does, that "Clark believed that God is one Person."<< With all due respect,...
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David Wendt
eveningbreeze01
Jul 10, 2006 8:55 pm
Hey Karel, This was very clearly written and enjoyable to read. I don't think I know Mike, but he sounds a bit like a Robbsonian neo-Clarkian the way he...
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Benjamin Wong
bkwwong
Jul 10, 2006 9:26 pm
Dear David: - Mike Warren is in fact a Van Tillian. - I do not think Mike try to deliberately misrepresent Clark. I have the impression that most Van Tillians ...
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eveningbreeze01
Jul 10, 2006 10:22 pm
... You're right and I apologise to all involved. Cheers, David...
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Benjamin Wong
bkwwong
Jul 11, 2006 12:56 am
Dear David: - Speaking for myself, you did not owe me an apology and I was not looking for an apology. : - ) - I responded to your post because I was surprised...
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Forrest Schultz
schultzf_2002
Jul 11, 2006 8:29 am
I would like to say that I agree with what Karel says below,.which he posted yesterday. The only difference in what I have posted is my attempt to go further...
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kj
ghclist1
Jul 11, 2006 8:30 am
Hi Benjamin, thank you for your interest! (I am not cc'ing both lists, but only Mike). ... possesses a mind and a will is too wide. For the definition includes...
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kj
ghclist1
Jul 11, 2006 2:05 pm
... project from the rest of us. If I understand you correctly, your aim is to derive from Clark's definition of a person the conclusion that God is a ...
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kj
ghclist1
Jul 12, 2006 5:30 am
Hi Forrest, I appreciate your continuing interest and input; please allow me to comment on this forum, away from abusive ad hominems and insults should I...
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Benjamin Wong
bkwwong
Jul 12, 2006 9:14 pm
Dear Karel: 1. [You wrote]: Of course, I agree animals have brains, yes. But to have ˇ§mindsˇ¨, is the same as to say they have thoughts: i.e. they believe...
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Benjamin Wong
bkwwong
Jul 12, 2006 9:17 pm
Dear Karel: 1. [You wrote]: Of course, I agree animals have brains, yes. But to have ˇ§mindsˇ¨, is the same as to say they have thoughts: i.e. they believe...
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Forrest Schultz
schultzf_2002
Jul 12, 2006 9:24 pm
Hello, Karel: I have posted on a no. of occasions the multiplicate mode of interrationship in the Trinity (1x1x1=1). My only concern in the post to which you...
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eveningbreeze01
Jul 13, 2006 2:48 am
... While I agree with you (against Karel) that animals have minds (of sorts) and can think non-propositionally, this passage is not convincing at all unless...
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Benjamin Wong
bkwwong
Jul 13, 2006 6:03 am
Dear David: - Thank you for your observation. : - ) - But I still think my explanation stands, and for the following reason: (a) Since the ravens have minds...
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eveningbreeze01
Jul 13, 2006 9:31 pm
Hi Ben, Your original post seems to have the purpose of proving that animals have minds (and perhaps wills). Therefore, you may not use this passage to do so...
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Benjamin Wong
bkwwong
Jul 14, 2006 12:15 am
Dear David: - I enjoy your questions. : - ) 1. [You wrote]: Your original post seems to have the purpose of proving that animals have minds (and perhaps...
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kj
ghclist1
Jul 14, 2006 11:28 am
Hi Ben and David. . . thank you sincerely for very stimulating thoughts; it was very good also to see some Scripture verses. I am unable at present to...
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David
eveningbreeze01
Jul 14, 2006 10:19 pm
... Karel, I have to agree with you that animals don't have minds using your definitions of terms. Using other definitions, I agree after a fashion with...
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David
eveningbreeze01
Jul 14, 2006 10:42 pm
... Hi Benjamin, I don't think you've offered any real proof here. First, I see no command given in your quote for anything to break. Second, I don't see any...
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David
eveningbreeze01
Jul 14, 2006 11:00 pm
... Not anymore! At least not when I define my term "angel" to mean only those who did not fall from their original estate. Sorry about not defining my terms...
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kj
ghclist1
Jul 15, 2006 12:39 am
Thank you David and all, I think we are even more agreed now that so many of Christian disputes are due to poor, vague, or usually non- existent definitions of...
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kj
ghclist1
Jul 15, 2006 4:12 pm
Hi Forrest, I fully appreciate what you are saying and intending here, I really do. That is why I said several times, that no matter what other serious ...
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kj
ghclist1
Jul 17, 2006 12:20 am
Benjamin, IMO that was a really helpful post to clarify a number of points (and I'm reposting it in full on GHCL). As I read it, you and I are engaged in...
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kj
ghclist1
Jul 17, 2006 12:24 am
[reposted from CVTL] Helpful post, Ben: ============================= Dear Mike: 1. [You wrote]: It really doesn't matter. So what if we say that animals are...
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Forrest Schultz
schultzf_2002
Jul 19, 2006 12:49 am
There are three Scriptures I shall reference here which attribute to a human GROUP the possession of a soul, a spirit, and a mind. SOUL: Ps 106:15 says,...
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Forrest Schultz
schultzf_2002
Jul 19, 2006 12:57 am
Van Til did not make up the idea of a group being a person. Here is an example of a prominent organization in the 19th century which understood this...
