At 23:53 13-12-2009 -0000, you wrote:
>Thank you so much Hanno, If you ever come across any more just let me know.

Jim,

As a matter of fact, there is an M74 TRV advertised here in The Netherlands.

Go to http://www.gaf.zeelandnet.nl/ and click on "Te Koop", then scroll down:

>Naam: lmj bruijsten <lambert-@...>
>Datum: 6 December 2009
>Telnr.: +31653509050
>Locatie: Overasselt, Nederland
>Aangeboden: te koop sherman m74 m4 1945 met ford gaa motor V8

Hope this helps,
Hanno

Thank You Kees for finding the article...now if I can find a copy of the
magazine in English I will be happy....my guess is all those tanks weren't
stolen from the government???????????  Even G-men read Popular Mechanics and
could find that thief pretty easily..Thanks again for saving the article..
Russ Morgan M4A3E9 # 11965



From: G104@yahoogroups.com [mailto:G104@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kees
Huyser
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:20 AM
To: G104@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [G104] Re: Looking for a M4 Sherman





> I have seen an article about a gentleman in the Chicago area that bought
658 of them...it was in the newspaper but I know, I don't have a copy" (lost
with the jeep in the crate but I know I saw it.)

Here's an article (in Dutch) with photos from the Dutch version of Popular
Mechanics, August 1960 about Alfred Ising, a scrap dealer from Chicago who
bought 536 Shermans.
http://www.huyser.net/popmech/a-ising.html

With automated Google translation:
http://tinyurl.com/ybl5mmx

--kees





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Good stuff, I think I recognize one of those green suiters.



To: G104@yahoogroups.com
From: garryredmon@...
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:49:52 +0000
Subject: [G104] Cobra King restoration update





The Cobra King restoration section at Armor for the Ages has been updated with
two new pages.

http://armorfortheages.com/

Garry






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The Cobra King restoration section at Armor for the Ages has been updated with
two new pages.

http://armorfortheages.com/

Garry

> I have seen an article about a gentleman in the Chicago area that bought 658
of them...it was in the newspaper but I know, I don't have a copy" (lost with
the jeep in the crate but I know I saw it.)

Here's an article (in Dutch) with photos from the Dutch version of Popular
Mechanics, August 1960 about Alfred Ising, a scrap dealer from Chicago who
bought 536 Shermans.
http://www.huyser.net/popmech/a-ising.html

With automated Google translation:
http://tinyurl.com/ybl5mmx

--kees

Terry, I think you under estimate how many surplus Shermans the government
SOLD!  They sold them and gave clear title.  I have seen an article about a
gentleman in the Chicago area that bought 658 of them...it was in the
newspaper but I know, I don't have a copy"  (lost with the jeep in the crate
but I know I saw it.)  There were lots of tanks sold just like trucks
today....mine has a receipt with it and I will say that you can confirm with
Sarafan that many were sold.  Thanks for reminding me that my investment in
Nostalgia is a hell of a lot more fun than my stock portfolio that got
raided by Wall Street.Have fun Russ Morgan



From: G104@yahoogroups.com [mailto:G104@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Terry
Warner
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 6:10 PM
To: G104@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [G104] Looking for a M4 Sherman





We answer this question fairly often. The answer is, how much money and
mechanical inclination do you have? A good running Sherman is going to
set you back six bills. The European collectors are selling theirs for
up to half a million dollars! On the bright side, military vehicles are
like '60s muscle cars - the guys with loose change probably have other
priorities for that money. These things are investments as much as
nostalgia.

The US gubmint (if I understand the state of US laws) never sold a legal
surplus Sherman. These were war weapons that were regularly issued to
various organizations and assorted levels of government. Sixty years of
deaths, successions and lost paperwork will catch up to you if your tank
does not have squeaky clean title and provenance. How many runners
today are former VFW or Legion monuments? The other problem with
weapons given away to foreign governments is their title is still
retained by Uncle Sam. The regime in France or Israel or Yugoslavia may
have turned over a few times, and no one especially thinks about those
things.

My suggestion, which is not as romantic, is to find a running M32
tracked carrier in the logging industry and make a VISMOD Sherman. The
logging business in the Pacific Northwest has taken a tumble and at
auction a Madill spar yarder or Finning rockdrill crawler will be less
than $50k, with a flatbed of spares. The choice is yours.

Terry

Jim wrote:

>
>
>
>
> --- In G104@yahoogroups.com <mailto:G104%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:G104%40yahoogroups.com>, Hanno
> Spoelstra <HL.Spoelstra@...> wrote:
> >
> > At 22:19 13-12-2009 -0000, jhelms73 wrote:
> > >Is any one out there who knows where to find a M4 Sherman for sale.
> Running
> > or not. I have plans to take a sherman around to differnt a events and
> > schools to show people what are troops of that era went thur. If any one
> > could help and let me know where I could find one or where to look I
> would
> > be very thankful.
> > >
> >
> > Hi jhelms73,
> >
> > Welcome to the mailing list. Please use your full name here.
> >
> > I assume you live in the USA? If so, please see
> > http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=130434
> <http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=130434>
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Hanno
> >
> Thank you so much Hanno, If you ever come across any more just let me
> know.
>
>

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

We answer this question fairly often.  The answer is, how much money and
mechanical inclination do you have?  A good running Sherman is going to
set you back six bills.  The European collectors are selling theirs for
up to half a million dollars!  On the bright side, military vehicles are
like '60s muscle cars - the guys with loose change probably have other
priorities for that money.  These things are investments as much as
nostalgia.

The US gubmint (if I understand the state of US laws) never sold a legal
surplus Sherman.  These were war weapons that were regularly issued to
various organizations and assorted levels of government.  Sixty years of
deaths, successions and lost paperwork will catch up to you if your tank
does not have squeaky clean title and provenance.  How many runners
today are former VFW or Legion monuments?  The other problem with
weapons given away to foreign governments is their title is still
retained by Uncle Sam.  The regime in France or Israel or Yugoslavia may
have turned over a few times, and no one especially thinks about those
things.

My suggestion, which is not as romantic, is to find a running M32
tracked carrier in the logging industry and make a VISMOD Sherman.  The
logging business in the Pacific Northwest has taken a tumble and at
auction a Madill spar yarder or Finning rockdrill crawler will be less
than $50k, with a flatbed of spares.  The choice is yours.

Terry

Jim wrote:

>
>
>
>
> --- In G104@yahoogroups.com <mailto:G104%40yahoogroups.com>, Hanno
> Spoelstra <HL.Spoelstra@...> wrote:
> >
> > At 22:19 13-12-2009 -0000, jhelms73 wrote:
> > >Is any one out there who knows where to find a M4 Sherman for sale.
> Running
> > or not. I have plans to take a sherman around to differnt a events and
> > schools to show people what are troops of that era went thur. If any one
> > could help and let me know where I could find one or where to look I
> would
> > be very thankful.
> > >
> >
> > Hi jhelms73,
> >
> > Welcome to the mailing list. Please use your full name here.
> >
> > I assume you live in the USA? If so, please see
> > http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=130434
> <http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=130434>
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Hanno
> >
> Thank you so much Hanno, If you ever come across any more just let me
> know.
>
>



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--- In G104@yahoogroups.com, Hanno Spoelstra <HL.Spoelstra@...> wrote:
>
> At 22:19 13-12-2009 -0000, jhelms73 wrote:
> >Is any one out there who knows where to find a M4 Sherman for sale. Running
> or not. I have plans to take a sherman around to differnt a events and
> schools to show people what are troops of that era went thur. If any one
> could help and let me know where I could find one or where to look I would
> be very thankful.
> >
>
> Hi jhelms73,
>
> Welcome to the mailing list. Please use your full name here.
>
> I assume you live in the USA? If so, please see
> http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=130434
>
> Best regards,
> Hanno
>
Thank you so much Hanno, If you ever come across any more just let me know.

At 22:19 13-12-2009 -0000, jhelms73 wrote:
>Is any one out there who knows where to find a M4 Sherman for sale. Running
or not. I have plans to take a sherman around to differnt a events and
schools to show people what are troops of that era went thur. If any one
could help and let me know where I could find one or where to look I would
be very thankful.
>

Hi jhelms73,

Welcome to the mailing list. Please use your full name here.

I assume you live in the USA? If so, please see
http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=130434

Best regards,
Hanno

Is any one out there who knows where to find a M4 Sherman for sale. Running or
not. I have plans to take a sherman around to differnt a events and schools to
show people what are troops of that era went thur. If any one could help and let
me know where I could find one or where to look I would be very thankful.

Hi all,

I have recently found a quite cheap tasca M4A2 (ref 35017, Sherman III with DV
and early VVSS), and I would like to make it in one of those interesting british
camouflages used at El Alamein or shortly after.

I would like to make an accurate model regarding the key features, some of them
are clear and in others perhaps some of you could point me please in the right
direction:
- Manufacturer? can be Alco, Fisher or Pullman, but Alco is almost discarded for
this timeframe, they started production in september 42.
- Turret manufacturer? I love the casting symbols....
- Glacis plate, pieces and weldings distribution? The kit looks like a
M4-Baldwin (exactly like the Overloon one) and not a M4A2, the MG housing is a
welded tube. Should it be a casting?. I think such an early M4A2 should have a 6
or 7 pieces multi-plate glacis, and of course not a single-plate like later
ones.
- Transmission cover: I like the old-fashioned three piece version, but in many
pics (from unclear periods usually) it is seen also the cast one. Or it depends
on the manufacturer?.
- Suspension: the kit comes with the early version with small upper track skid,
not with the initial (tasca term) M3-style. perhaps that is the biggest problem,
or the provided version is acceptable?
- The "air intakes" (sorry don´t know the precise term for this) located on both
sides of the engine deck, with bubble shape. The kit provides actually no
intakes but just plates. I think this is correct for a M4A2 but many later M4A2
on displays in France show the cast intakes. Are both correct? for the
timeframe?.
- The kit does not provide the lowest sheet metal shrouds for the muffler. Is
this a later feature?
I also love the production story, specially regarding serial numbers, contracts,
batches, etc, as a background information.
I think thats all for now. I am really grafeful if anyone can provide some of so
many details.
Thanks to everybody in advance.
Regards
NAcho Roces

Hi Philip,

No apologies needed. This list is to share knowledge in any shape of from
with Sherman enthusiasts. And this includes offering parts for trade or
sale. Here's hoping you have found a good home for the breech block.

Pictures of Sherman tanks are always welcome!

Best regards,
Hanno

At 23:03 23-11-2009 -0400, Philip&Ella wrote:
>Hi Guys
>
>First I would like to apoligize to Hanno. It didn't occur to me
>until after I wrote the initial email that offering up Sherman parts
>for sale might not be what Hanno wanted the G104 group to be used for.
>Hanno I'm going to make it up to you. I have 3 Shermans that are a short
>drive from me. 2 at CFB Gagetown and 1 in a small town called Sussex.
> If you don't have pics of any of them yet I'll get them for you in the Spring.
> Just let me know what you need.
>
>
>I'm going to contact the folks that expressed interest privately to let them
>know the owners wishes regarding the breechblock.

I have a M4A176ME8 and I could use that breechblock. Please contact me. Thanks,
Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: tankmodeler@...
To: G104@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, Nov 19, 2009 11:10 pm
Subject: Re: [G104] Anyone need a 76mm breechblock?




While knowing my wife would have the same reaction, I sam still compelled to ask
"how much?" Perhaps I could donate it to the Ontario Regiment Museum or the Camp
Borden Museum.

I'm guessing it came out of an M4A2 76?
  Paul Roberts

________________________________
From: Philip&Ella <pnason@...>
To: G104@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 6:56:33 PM
Subject: [G104] Anyone need a 76mm breechblock?


Hi guys

Wow I've been on this newsgroup for years and I finally get to delurk with
Sherman news.
I was having some gunsmith work done by the father of a friend of mine. While at
his workshop
chatting with him I noticed a breechblock sitting on one of his work tables and
asked him what it was.
He said "it's out of a Sherman tank wanna' buy it?" My first thought was oh yeah
but I thought of the look on my
wifes face if I came home with it. Plus the fact I'd never have a Sherman to go
with it I had to decline.

He told me he took it out of a hard target at CFB Petawawa back in the 70's. He
was a Engineer in the regular forces
at that time. Back in 1951 when he was 15 he lied about his age and joined a
Militia Armoured regt (The 8th Princess Louise N.B. Hussars)
He said that back then a lot of the senior NCO's and officers were WW2 vets and
once in a while while on the ranges 5 of them would crew
a tank together and show the young guys how the "pros" did it.

I have no idea if the breech block has any value it has all the small parts with
it as well springs,firing pin ect. He did a bunch of free
gunsmithing on a couple Garands for me so I'd like to something in return for
him.

thanks, Phil

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Hi Guys

First I would like to apoligize to Hanno. It didn't occur to me
until after I wrote the initial email that offering up Sherman parts
for sale might not be what Hanno wanted the G104 group to be used for.
Hanno I'm going to make it up to you. I have 3 Shermans that are a short
drive from me. 2 at CFB Gagetown and 1 in a small town called Sussex.
  If you don't have pics of any of them yet I'll get them for you in the Spring.
  Just let me know what you need.


I'm going to contact the folks that expressed interest privately to let them
know the owners wishes regarding the breechblock.

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I believe a 76mm block will fit a 75mm ring, you may just need to change
the extractors.


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Phil, We are slowly trying to get our M4A3E9 comparable to our M5A1 Stuart
that  we shot on The History Channel show "Lock and Load".  We can shoot in
Colorado USA so the 37 mm is complete and works.  The 75 mm in the Sherman
is a different story.  Granted it is a 75 versus your 76 but I wanted you to
confirm that yours was a 76.  I have not explored the condition of ours but
wonder if any of the internal parts would interchange and therefore, I would
be interested in buying it.  We have most of the parts to make our 75 shoot
but without a better barrel, we would be restricted to just blanks or
cannister.......Let me know what you want.  Thanks Russ Morgan



From: G104@yahoogroups.com [mailto:G104@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Philip&Ella
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 4:57 PM
To: G104@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [G104] Anyone need a 76mm breechblock?





Hi guys

Wow I've been on this newsgroup for years and I finally get to delurk with
Sherman news.
I was having some gunsmith work done by the father of a friend of mine.
While at his workshop
chatting with him I noticed a breechblock sitting on one of his work tables
and asked him what it was.
He said "it's out of a Sherman tank wanna' buy it?" My first thought was oh
yeah but I thought of the look on my
wifes face if I came home with it. Plus the fact I'd never have a Sherman to
go with it I had to decline.

He told me he took it out of a hard target at CFB Petawawa back in the 70's.
He was a Engineer in the regular forces
at that time. Back in 1951 when he was 15 he lied about his age and joined a
Militia Armoured regt (The 8th Princess Louise N.B. Hussars)
He said that back then a lot of the senior NCO's and officers were WW2 vets
and once in a while while on the ranges 5 of them would crew
a tank together and show the young guys how the "pros" did it.

I have no idea if the breech block has any value it has all the small parts
with it as well springs,firing pin ect. He did a bunch of free
gunsmithing on a couple Garands for me so I'd like to something in return
for him.

thanks, Phil

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

While knowing my wife would have the same reaction, I sam still compelled to ask
"how much?" Perhaps I could donate it to the Ontario Regiment Museum or the Camp
Borden Museum.

I'm guessing it came out of an M4A2 76?
 Paul Roberts




________________________________
From: Philip&Ella <pnason@...>
To: G104@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 6:56:33 PM
Subject: [G104] Anyone need a 76mm breechblock?

 
Hi guys

Wow I've been on this newsgroup for years and I finally get to delurk with
Sherman news.
I was having some gunsmith work done by the father of a friend of mine. While at
his workshop
chatting with him I noticed a breechblock sitting on one of his work tables and
asked him what it was.
He said "it's out of a Sherman tank wanna' buy it?" My first thought was oh yeah
but I thought of the look on my
wifes face if I came home with it. Plus the fact I'd never have a Sherman to go
with it I had to decline.

He told me he took it out of a hard target at CFB Petawawa back in the 70's. He
was a Engineer in the regular forces
at that time. Back in 1951 when he was 15 he lied about his age and joined a
Militia Armoured regt (The 8th Princess Louise N.B. Hussars)
He said that back then a lot of the senior NCO's and officers were WW2 vets and
once in a while while on the ranges 5 of them would crew
a tank together and show the young guys how the "pros" did it.

I have no idea if the breech block has any value it has all the small parts with
it as well springs,firing pin ect. He did a bunch of free
gunsmithing on a couple Garands for me so I'd like to something in return for
him.

thanks, Phil

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi guys

Wow I've been on this newsgroup for years and I finally get to delurk with
Sherman news.
I was having some gunsmith work done by the father of a friend of mine. While at
his workshop
chatting with him I noticed a breechblock sitting on one of his work tables and
asked him what it was.
He said "it's out of a Sherman tank wanna' buy it?" My first thought was oh yeah
but I thought of the look on my
wifes face if I came home with it. Plus the fact I'd never have a Sherman to go
with it I had to decline.

He told me he took it out of a hard target at CFB Petawawa back in the 70's. He
was a Engineer in the regular forces
at that time. Back in 1951 when he was 15 he lied about his age and joined a
Militia Armoured regt (The 8th Princess Louise N.B. Hussars)
He said that back then a lot of the senior NCO's and officers were WW2 vets and
once in a while while on the ranges 5 of them would crew
a tank together and show the young guys how the "pros" did it.

I have no idea if the breech block has any value it has all the small parts with
it as well springs,firing pin ect. He did a bunch of free
gunsmithing on a couple Garands for me so I'd like to something in return for
him.


thanks, Phil



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Yes I did, but unfortunately it "got lost in the sauce".  I should have that
info out to you shortly.

Sorry,
KL

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: swathdiver
   To: G104@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 8:32 AM
   Subject: [G104] Re: M4A1E8 in Naples, Florida



   Kurt,

   Thanks for the information. My wife is looking to get away for the weekend and
what better place to visit than Naples right now? hehehe Did you get my e-mail
from November 4th?

   James





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Kurt,

    Thanks for the information.  My wife is looking to get away for the weekend
and what better place to visit than Naples right now?  hehehe  Did you get my
e-mail from November 4th?

James

Michel,

The museum incorrectly lists the tank as an A3.  There is a partial photo of 2
GI re-enactors standing beside an A1 and on webshots using "Collier County
Museum" as a search term there is another photo someone took of their kids at
the rear of an A1.

James

M4A1(76) HVSS typically don't have the S/N on the tow lugs.  If you are
lucky, it will have an overhaul plate with the number at the lower center of
the glacis.  If not, you'll have to look for a build sequence number stamped
into the hull sides, below the rear lift lugs.  See:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/19458978/US-Armored-Vehicle-Serial-Number-Locations

KL

----- Original Message -----
From: swathdiver

I noticed that this tank was not in the database. I have only located 2
partial photos of it on the internet, one showing an errant or incomplete
registration number. Are you fellas aware of it? I might be able to travel
over there and get the serial number off the tow lug.

This is the Geochache entry:
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LUID=a7c976eb-0806-4672-82e7-5c6273c
81f5b

Regards,
Michel


   _____

From: G104@yahoogroups.com [mailto:G104@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tich
Sent: dinsdag 17 november 2009 21:10
To: G104@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [G104] Re: M4A1E8 in Naples, Florida




James
Checking my records, and I only have a entry for a M4A3E8 at the Collier
County Museum on Harrison Rd. If there is a second Sherman over there, all
info is welcome.

Michel

--- In G104@yahoogroups. <mailto:G104%40yahoogroups.com> com, "swathdiver"
<swathdiver@...> wrote:
>
> I noticed that this tank was not in the database. I have only located 2
partial photos of it on the internet, one showing an errant or incomplete
registration number. Are you fellas aware of it? I might be able to travel
over there and get the serial number off the tow lug.
>
> James
>







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

James
Checking my records, and I only have a entry for a M4A3E8 at the Collier County
Museum on Harrison Rd. If there is a second Sherman over there, all info is
welcome.

Michel

--- In G104@yahoogroups.com, "swathdiver" <swathdiver@...> wrote:
>
> I noticed that this tank was not in the database.  I have only located 2
partial photos of it on the internet, one showing an errant or incomplete
registration number.  Are you fellas aware of it?  I might be able to travel
over there and get the serial number off the tow lug.
>
> James
>

If the members of this forum take up a collection, I'll drive from
Canada to Florida to do the field check.  I propose the first week of
March.  Anyone able to help?

Terry

swathdiver wrote:

>
>
> I noticed that this tank was not in the database. I have only located
> 2 partial photos of it on the internet, one showing an errant or
> incomplete registration number. Are you fellas aware of it? I might be
> able to travel over there and get the serial number off the tow lug.
>
> James
>
>
>
>



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I noticed that this tank was not in the database.  I have only located 2 partial
photos of it on the internet, one showing an errant or incomplete registration
number.  Are you fellas aware of it?  I might be able to travel over there and
get the serial number off the tow lug.

James

Karl



If you send me an email I think I  have the pictures you need.



Dan



From: G104@yahoogroups.com [mailto:G104@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
swedentrax
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 4:33 PM
To: G104@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [G104] T23 turret minus mantlet pictures wanted





Hi guys, I am loking for pictures of a T23 turret minus its gun and mantlet
from the front or right/left front. Any help deeply appreciated. Karl.





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From: G104@yahoogroups.com [mailto:G104@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
swedentrax
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 4:33 PM
To: G104@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [G104] T23 turret minus mantlet pictures wanted





Hi guys, I am loking for pictures of a T23 turret minus its gun and mantlet
from the front or right/left front. Any help deeply appreciated. Karl.





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi guys, I am loking for pictures of a T23 turret minus its gun and mantlet from
the front or right/left front. Any help deeply appreciated. Karl.

Gary -

Can you get with me offline

shawnferguson@...

  Thanks

  SFC Ferguson



To: G104@yahoogroups.com
From: garryredmon@...
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:09:14 -0700
Subject: Re: [G104] Cobra King and the Hammelburg Raid





Perhaps no one. But then, maybe years down the road, a question will arise that
only direct observation of the area could answer. If they area is restored,
that's a question that will never be answered. I suppose it's a "better safe
than sorry" policy.

________________________________
From: Shawn Ferguson <shawnferguson@...>
To: g104@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 6:24:31 PM
Subject: RE: [G104] Cobra King and the Hammelburg Raid

Well that is a bummer it wont be fully restored. Why leave the damage alone, who
will come through later to study the effects?

To: G104@yahoogroups. com
From: garryredmon@ yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:09:33 -0700
Subject: Re: [G104] Cobra King and the Hammelburg Raid

Well, it's not usually the policy of repairing or affecting battle damage. The
burned areas inside Cobra King have been deemed as being a result of battle and
anything that is done to the inside that could alter those areas, by design or
chance, won't be done. What will probably be done is to stabilize the rusted
areas in the lower hull, replace any missing equipment that can be replaced and
the interior will be clear-coated for protection.

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From: Shawn Ferguson <shawnferguson@ hotmail.com>
To: g104@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 6:59:46 PM
Subject: RE: [G104] Cobra King and the Hammelburg Raid

Two periods to restore CK? One would have a 75mm and the other the 76mm,
wouldn't it? I think it would best serve the Army Museum system restored 100% to
the Bastogne link up. No need to muddle it up with the POW rescue attempt. I can
be noted on the placard, but she is most famous for breaking through to the
101st.

Well thats my two cents.

To: G104@yahoogroups. com
From: garryredmon@ yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:19:33 +0000
Subject: [G104] Cobra King and the Hammelburg Raid

The Cobra King project section has been updated with a new page reflecting the
observations and research by the Patton Museum staff and volunteers on Cobra
King's participation in the Hammelburg Raid. It seems that a conclusion to the
theory has been reached that had its birthplace here at G104. Even though there
is still no "smoking gun" (or smoking 76mm), everyone involved at the museum
sees no other scenario that fits the evidence.

http://www.armorfor theages.com/ Volunteers/ Projects/ CobraKingProject
/HammelburgRaidP age.htm

Garry

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