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#5043 From: Aftab Maroof <aftab.maroof@...>
Date: Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:59 am
Subject: Fwd: FW: Erasmus Mundus Scholarships for Master Programs
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For information of All.

Ayub Alvi
 
Aftab MAroof

-----Original Message-----
From: Waheed-Aslam Ghumman
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Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:20 PM
To: ayub.alvi@...; sarmad.hussain@...; arshad.hussain@...;
fakhar.lodhi@...; qaiser.durrani@...
Subject: Erasmus Mundus Scholarships for Master Programs

Dear Sir,

Here you can find information about European Commission's Erasmus Mundus
Scholarships for Master programs.
Scholarship amount includes generous grant for living expenses, fees, travel
expenses and free health insurance etc.

http://eacea.ec.europa.eu/erasmus_mundus/results_compendia/selected_projects
_action_1_master_courses_en.php


Please feel free to contact me for any further information.

Note: Most of the Master programs have application deadline in mid of
January 2010.
About me: I am PUCIT Alumni, but I want to spread this scholarship news to
most of the Pakistani students, so that most of Pakistanis can take benefit
from it. Please forward this to all campusus and student groups of FAST-NU.

Best Regards,
Waheed Aslam Ghumman
PUCIT Alumni - BSc - Spring 02
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Student on Erasmus Mundus Master Course (08-10).
European Master Program in Computational Logic.
Technical University of Madrid, Spain (08-09).
Technical University of Dresden, Germany (09-10).
+49 1753243631
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#5042 From: "sash ....." <miss_shah00@...>
Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:31 am
Subject: Re: Well Paid Internship Offer
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Is the last day for CV submission (highlighted below) correct?
 
S. Shah.

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, Usman Zafar <usman0000000@...> wrote:

From: Usman Zafar <usman0000000@...>
Subject: [FutureFAST] Well Paid Internship Offer
To: futurefast@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 2:02 PM

 

This is an internship offer for fresh graduates.

Internship (Software Development) (2 posts)


Requirement: -

  • Good in mathematics,
  • Strong core computer science
  • Should Know C#, ASP.NET.
  • Strong in SQL


Salary - 20k per month


Internship may lead to a permanent job offer (above market packages).


Send CVs at
zubair@bisp. gov.pk

Last day to send CVs 15th Nov, 09.


Thanks & Best regards.




#5041 From: sohaib tariq <sohaibtariq@...>
Date: Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:14 pm
Subject: [Off Topic] Blackwater behind Pakistan bombings: Ex-intel chief
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Pakistani Army, its people, its Ulema, Its Mosques and its Tribes are being used as a fuel in this AMERICAN WAR.

Blackwater behind Pakistan bombings: Ex-intel chief
Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:09:05 GMT
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The former head of Pakistan's intelligence agency, ISI, Asad Durrani said in an interview with Press TV that Blackwater, a notorious US security firm, is carrying out operations in the country. 

His comments came after the US Central intelligence Agency (CIA) revealed that Blackwater, which currently works under the name Xe Services, has been involved in drone attacks in Pakistan. 

The CIA said the private security company has been loading bombs on US drones that target suspected militants in Pakistan. The attacks, according to Pakistani media, kill civilians as well. 

General Durrani, however, said the group may be involved in actions that destabilize the country. 

"My assessment is that they [Blackwater agents] — either themselves or most probably through others, through the locals — do carry out some of the explosions," he said. 

"The idea is to carry out such actions, like carrying attacks in the civilian areas to make the others look bad in the eyes of the public." 

Pakistan, suffering from a wave of violence, has witnessed the loss of lives of more than two thousands civilians in the past two years because of bomb attacks across the country. 


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#5040 From: Arif Hussain <peaceful_rf@...>
Date: Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:44 am
Subject: The 16th Convocation Of FAST-NUCES-at Islamabad campus
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Dear FAST-NU graduates,

The 16th Convocation

Of FAST-NUCES

 

You would be pleased to know that FAST-NU Islamabad is organizing its 16th Convocation for awarding degrees to graduates of  the following batches:

 

1-                  BS (CS) (Batch-2005)

2-                  BS (TE) (Batch-2005)

3-                  BBA (Batch-2005)

4-                  MBA (Batch -2006, 2007, MBA-1 Tear 2008)

5-                  MS (CS) (Batch -2007)

6-                  MS(TE) ( Batch 2007)

 

Day & Date:                Saturday, January 2, 2010, Morning

Venue:                         FAST-NU Campus H-11/4 Islamabad

 

Graduates of the above mentioned batches are cordially invited to attend the 16th Convocation of the University. Graduates may register themselves on the prescribed form, available online at NU website and also available in the office. Copy of the form is also attached. Registration Fee for a graduate is Rs. 2000/- which covers the cost of:

  • Arrangement of the Convocation,
  • Gownโ€™s rent,
  • Lunch for the graduate and two family members,
  • Photographs (personal in gowns and with batch).

 

Fee for additional guest is Rs. 500/- per head. Fee is payable in cash or pay order only, at the accounts office during office hours.

 

There will be a compulsory rehearsal at the Campus on Friday, January 1, 2009 at: 2 30 pm. No graduates will be allowed to attend the Convocation without payment of fee in advance and participation in the rehearsal. Gowns will be issued on the day of rehearsal.

 

The registration form alongwith fee receipts can be submitted in the office of Manager Academics for confirmation of seats, latest by December 19, 2009.

 

We are looking forward to seeing you on the day of convocation.

 

 

 

S. Arif H. Shah

Manager Academics

051-111-128-128 Ext. 113

Date:  December 11, 2009



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#5039 From: tahir khan <tahirkhan122000@...>
Date: Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:47 am
Subject: software development (web + desktop) positions at id technologies
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Job Oppurtunity 

ID Technologies
 

Candidates for the following Posts are required.  

    1. Software Developers:
        1. Rquirements:
        2. Knowledge of software develoment procedures and techniques.
        3. Programming skills in c/c++ C#, .Net, PHP, JavaScript, Java, Linux, AJAX.
        4. Knowledge of Database System,SQL, Mysql, SQL Server.
        5. Excelent Problem solving skill.
        6. Good Communication skills.
 
 
    1. Web Developers:
 
        1. Rquirements:
        2. Knowledge of software develoment procedures and techniques.
        3. Programming skills in ASP.Net, PHP, JavaScript, Java, AJAX, c/c++(Linux) C#.
        4. SVG(Scalable Vector Graphics), knowledge of Google Map APIs.
        5. Knowledge of Database System,SQL, Mysql, SQL Server.
        6. Knowledge of Adob Photoshop, Flash and web development tools.
        7. Excelent Problem solving skill.
        8. Good Communication skills.
 

Note:

Salary Package is based on the knowledge and experience of candidates.

Only Short listed candidates are called for interviews. Fresh Graduates are also encoured to apply. 

Send Your Cvs to the following email ID.  


  jobs.idtech@gmail.com



#5038 From: Usman Zafar <usman0000000@...>
Date: Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:02 am
Subject: Well Paid Internship Offer
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This is an internship offer for fresh graduates.

Internship (Software Development) (2 posts)


Requirement:-

  • Good in mathematics,
  • Strong core computer science
  • Should Know C#, ASP.NET.
  • Strong in SQL


Salary - 20k per month


Internship may lead to a permanent job offer (above market packages).


Send CVs at
zubair@...

Last day to send CVs 15th Nov, 09.


Thanks & Best regards.



#5037 From: Hasan Shuja <hasan.shuja@...>
Date: Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:54 am
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 In Vol 28 page 240-241 Shaykh ul Islam Ibn Taymiyah rahimahullah said;

ูˆุณุฆู„ ู€ ุฑุญู…ู‡ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ู€ ุนู† ุจู„ุฏ โ€[โ€ู…ุงุฑุฏูŠู†โ€]โ€ ู‡ู„ ู‡ูŠ ุจู„ุฏ ุญุฑุจ ุฃู… ุจู„ุฏ ุณู„ู…โ€ุŸโ€ ูˆู‡ู„ ูŠุฌุจ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุณู„ู… ุงู„ู…ู‚ูŠู… ุจู‡ุง ุงู„ู‡ุฌุฑุฉ ุฅู„ู‰ ุจู„ุงุฏ ุงู„ุฅุณู„ุงู… ุฃู… ู„ุงโ€ุŸโ€ ูˆุฅุฐุง ูˆุฌุจุช ุนู„ูŠู‡ ุงู„ู‡ุฌุฑุฉ ูˆู„ู… ูŠู‡ุงุฌุฑุŒ ูˆุณุงุนุฏ ุฃุนุฏุงุก ุงู„ู…ุณู„ู…ูŠู† ุจู†ูุณู‡ ุฃูˆ ู…ุงู„ู‡ุŒ ู‡ู„ ูŠุฃุซู… ููŠ ุฐู„ูƒโ€ุŸโ€ ูˆู‡ู„ ูŠุฃุซู… ู…ู† ุฑู…ุงู‡ ุจุงู„ู†ูุงู‚ ูˆุณุจู‡ ุจู‡ ุฃู… ู„ุงโ€ุŸโ€

ูุฃุฌุงุจโ€:โ€

ุงู„ุญู…ุฏ ู„ู„ู‡โ€.โ€ ุฏู…ุงุก ุงู„ู…ุณู„ู…ูŠู† ูˆุฃู…ูˆุงู„ู‡ู… ู…ุญุฑู…ุฉ ุญูŠุซ ูƒุงู†ูˆุง ููŠ โ€[โ€ู…ุงุฑุฏูŠู†โ€]โ€ ุฃูˆ ุบูŠุฑู‡ุงโ€.โ€ ูˆุฅุนุงู†ุฉ ุงู„ุฎุงุฑุฌูŠู† ุนู† ุดุฑูŠุนุฉ ุฏูŠู† ุงู„ุฅุณู„ุงู… ู…ุญุฑู…ุฉุŒ ุณูˆุงุก ูƒุงู†ูˆุง ุฃู‡ู„ โ€[โ€ู…ุงุฑุฏูŠู†โ€]โ€ุŒ ุฃูˆ ุบูŠุฑู‡ู…โ€.โ€ ูˆุงู„ู…ู‚ูŠู… ุจู‡ุง ุฅู† ูƒุงู† ุนุงุฌุฒู‹ุง ุนู† ุฅู‚ุงู…ุฉ ุฏูŠู†ู‡ุŒ ูˆุฌุจุช ุงู„ู‡ุฌุฑุฉ ุนู„ูŠู‡โ€.โ€ ูˆุฅู„ุง ุงุณุชุญุจุช ูˆู„ู… ุชุฌุจโ€.โ€

ูˆู…ุณุงุนุฏุชู‡ู… ู„ุนุฏูˆ ุงู„ู…ุณู„ู…ูŠู† ุจุงู„ุฃู†ูุณ ูˆุงู„ุฃู…ูˆุงู„ ู…ุญุฑู…ุฉ ุนู„ูŠู‡ู…ุŒ ูˆูŠุฌุจ ุนู„ูŠู‡ู… ุงู„ุงู…ุชู†ุงุน ู…ู† ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ุจุฃูŠ ุทุฑูŠู‚ ุฃู…ูƒู†ู‡ู…ุŒ ู…ู† ุชุบูŠุจุŒ ุฃูˆ ุชุนุฑูŠุถุŒ ุฃูˆ ู…ุตุงู†ุนุฉโ€.โ€ ูุฅุฐุง ู„ู… ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฅู„ุง ุจุงู„ู‡ุฌุฑุฉุŒ ุชุนูŠู†ุชโ€.โ€

ูˆู„ุง ูŠุญู„ ุณุจู‡ู… ุนู…ูˆู…ู‹ุง ูˆุฑู…ูŠู‡ู… ุจุงู„ู†ูุงู‚ุŒ ุจู„ ุงู„ุณุจ ูˆุงู„ุฑู…ูŠ ุจุงู„ู†ูุงู‚ ูŠู‚ุน ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุตูุงุช ุงู„ู…ุฐูƒูˆุฑุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ูƒุชุงุจ ูˆุงู„ุณู†ุฉุŒ ููŠุฏุฎู„ ููŠู‡ุง ุจุนุถ /ุฃู‡ู„ โ€[โ€ู…ุงุฑุฏูŠู†โ€]โ€ ูˆุบูŠุฑู‡ู…โ€.โ€

ูˆุฃู…ุง ูƒูˆู†ู‡ุง ุฏุงุฑ ุญุฑุจ ุฃูˆ ุณู„ู…ุŒ ูู‡ูŠ ู…ุฑูƒุจุฉโ€:โ€ ููŠู‡ุง ุงู„ู…ุนู†ูŠุงู†ุŒ ู„ูŠุณุช ุจู…ู†ุฒู„ุฉ ุฏุงุฑ ุงู„ุณู„ู… ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุฌุฑูŠ ุนู„ูŠู‡ุง ุฃุญูƒุงู… ุงู„ุฅุณู„ุงู…ุŒ ู„ูƒูˆู† ุฌู†ุฏู‡ุง ู…ุณู„ู…ูŠู†โ€.โ€ ูˆู„ุง ุจู…ู†ุฒู„ุฉ ุฏุงุฑ ุงู„ุญุฑุจ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฃู‡ู„ู‡ุง ูƒูุงุฑุŒ ุจู„ ู‡ูŠ ู‚ุณู… ุซุงู„ุซ ูŠุนุงู…ู„ ุงู„ู…ุณู„ู… ููŠู‡ุง ุจู…ุง ูŠุณุชุญู‚ู‡ุŒ ูˆูŠู‚ุงุชู„ ุงู„ุฎุงุฑุฌ ุนู† ุดุฑูŠุนุฉ ุงู„ุฅุณู„ุงู… ุจู…ุง ูŠุณุชุญู‚ู‡โ€.
Translation:

Shaykh ul Islam, Ibn Taymiyah, rahimahullah, was asked about the land of Mardeen [1] Is it the land of war, or is it the land of peace? And is it an obligation upon a Muslim who resides in it to emigrate [hijrah] to the lands of Islam or not? And if it is obligatory [waajib] upon him to emigrate, but he does not emigrate from it, and he give assistance to the enemies of the Muslims with his person and his wealth, is he committing disobedience [al-'ithm] by doing that? And if a person then calls him a hypocrite [munaafiq] or curses him, are they committing disobedience or not?

Shaykh ul Islam replied,

"All praise in due to Allah, the blood and the wealth of the Muslims is inviolable, whether they reside in the land of Mardeen or any other land. And giving assistance to those who go outside of the divine legislation [Shari'ah] of al-Islam, is [also] prohibited, whether it is the people of Mardeen or other than them. If the person residing there is not able to establish/implement his Deen, then it is obligatory upon him to emigrate from that land, and if not [i.e he IS ABLE to establish his Deen] then emigration is highly recommended [musta-hab] but not obligatory [2].

Their giving assistance to the enemies of the Muslims with their persons and their wealth is prohibited, and it is obligatory upon them to refrain from doing that by any means available to them, by evasion or equivocation or compromise, and if this is not possible except by emigration, then emigration becomes obligatory upon every person [in that land].

It is not permissible to curse them in a general manner or to call them hypocrites, rather cursing, and calling a person a hypocrite is made according to the characteristics mentioned in the Book Qur'aan] and the Sunnah [prophetic narrations] whether it is the people of Mardeen or other than them.

Is it [Mardeen] the land of war or the land of peace[?],

It is a composite [dar ul murakaba]:

In it [causative attributes] of both are found. It is neither the land of peace where the Islamic legislation is implemented [ahkaam ul Islaam] and it's army are Muslims. Neither is is the land of war where it's people are disbelievers. Rather, it is a third category [in which] we treat the Muslim who resides within it as he deserves, and fight the one who leaves the divine legislation of al-Islam as he deserves.โ€

End translation.

[1] At the time of this fatwah, Mardeen was populated by Muslims [with a small number of Jews and Christians] who were invaded by the then, pagan mongolian Tartar's, who even though they "claimed" to be Muslim, were in reality pagans. Prior to the Tartars invasion, Mardeen was under muslim rule as was the rest of Turkey at that time.

[2]Please note the shari'ee ruling changes to "fardh" when a Muslim has the "ability" to emigrate from the lands of disbelief to the lands of Islam. Please see the Tafseer of Surah an-Nisaa' ayahs 97-99 for more details on this.

 



#5036 From: Hasan Shuja <hasan.shuja@...>
Date: Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:49 am
Subject: US Cutting Gaza Lifeline
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US Cutting Gaza Lifeline

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24155.htm

Making an American 'Impenetrable Underground Wall' the Laughing Stock of the Worldโ€”Leave It to the People of Gaza

By Ann Wright

December 10, 2009 "Information Clearing House" -- No doubt at the instigation of the Israeli government, the Obama administration has authorized the United States Army Corps of Engineers to design a vertical underground wall under the border between Egypt and Gaza.
In March, 2009 the United States provided the government of Egypt with $32 million in March, 2009 for electronic surveillance and other security devices to prevent the movement of food, merchandise and weapons into Gaza. Now details are emerging about an underground steel wall that wil be 6-7 miles long and extend 55 feet straight down into the desert sand.

The steel wall will be made of super-strength steel put together in a jigsaw puzzle fashion. It will be bomb proof and can not be cut or melted. It will be "impenetrable, " and reportedly will take 18 months to construct. (http://news. bbc.co.uk/ 2/hi/middle_ east/8405020. stm)

The steel wall is intended to cut the tunnels that go between Gaza and Egypt.

The tunnels are the lifelines for Gaza since the international community agreed to a blockade of Gaza to collectively punish the citizens of Gaza for their having elected in Parliamentary elections in 2006 sufficient Hamas Parliamentarians that Hamas became the government of Gaza. The United States and other western countries have placed Hamas on the list of terrorist organizations.

The underground steel wall is intended to strengthen international governmental efforts to imprison and starve the people of Gaza into submission so they will throw out the Hamas government.

Just as the steel walls of the US Army Corps of Engineers at the base of the levees of New Orleans were unable to contain Hurricane Katrina, the US Army Corps of Engineers' underground steel walls that will attempt to build an underground cage of Gaza will not be able to contain the survival spirit of the people of Gaza.

America's super technology will again be laughed at by the world, as young men dedicated to the survival of their people, will again outwit technology by digging deeper, and most likely penetrating the "impenetrable" in some novel, simple, low-tech way.

I have been to Gaza 3 times this year following the 22-day Israeli military attack on Gaza that killed 1,440, wounded 5,000, left 50,000 homeless and destroyed much of the infrastructure of Gaza. The disproportionate use of force and targeting of the civilian population by the Israeli military is considered by international law and human rights experts as as violations of the Geneva conventions.

When our governments participate in illegal actions, it is up to the citizens of the world to take action. On December 31, 2009, 1,400 international citizens from 42 countries will march in Gaza with 50,000 Gazans in the Gaza Freedom March to end the siege of Gaza. They will take back to their countries the stories of spirit and survival of the pople of Gaza and will return home committed to force their governments to stop these inhuman actions against the people of Gaza.

Just as American smart bombs in Afghanistan and Iraq have not conquered the spirit of Aghans and Iraqis, America's underground walls in Gaza will never conquer the courage of those who are fighting for the survival of their families.

One more time, the American government and the Obama administration has been an active participant in the continued inhumane treatment of the people of Gaza and should be held accountable, along with Israel and Egypt for violations of human rights of the people of Gaza.

Ann Wright is a retired US Army Reserve Colonel and a former U.S. diplomat who resigned in March, 2003 in opposition to the war on Iraq. She served in as a US diplomat in Nicaragua, Grenada, Somalia, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Sierra Leone, Micronesia, Afghanistan and Mongolia. She is the co-author of "Dissent: Voices of Conscience" . Her March 19, 2003 letter of resignation can be read at http://www.govexec. com/dailyfed/ 0303/032103wrigh t..htm.



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Date: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:28 pm
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column published in thursday's (10-12-2009) jang.
 


#5034 From: "M.Ahmed Din Malik" <junooni85@...>
Date: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:54 am
Subject: Urgently Needed: Business Development Managers
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Dear All,

 

Friend of mine is looking for CVs for below mentioned post. There are around 10 posts to be filled up and package is really good, so kindly email  CVs of interested candidates to

 

 

karehman@...

 

 

 

Following is the Job description & requirements.

 

Job Title:

Business Development Manager

Job Type:

Permenant

Job Location:

Lahore/Karachi

Career Level:

Mid-Level

Education:

Bachelor's Degree or Master's Degree

Experiance:

3 Years - 6 Years

Industry:

Telecommunication/ISP

Posted Date:

Dec 9, 2009

Last Date for Apply:

Dec 20, 2009

Description:

Responsibilities: Taking care of Company's business interest in his unit with regards to sales of Companies products, customer support, coordination and allied aspects. Ensure Completion of Sales & Revenue Targets: 1. Meeting sales targets and NTC targets regarding landline as well as DSL. 2. Facilitating the increase in revenue per subscriber line by providing faultless smooth communication to the valued customers. 3. Monitor the financial regulatory 4. Monitoring the recovery from defaulters Fault Rectification & Complaint Handling: 1. Surveying, testing, fault identifications, preparation of preventive estimates and execution of work after sanction of preventive estimates as per BoQs 2. Dealing with and resolving the communication breakdowns 3. Public Dealing and addressing all type of public complaints of excessive billings regarding international and NWD local calls Other Tasks: 1. Dealing & managing staff affairs 2. Help in Planning & designing New OSP Network 3. Inspection and maintenance of OSP Network Skills: Leadership & team Building Business Acumen Interpersonal skills

 



#5033 From: Aamer Qureshi <virtual_ptr@...>
Date: Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:28 am
Subject: Job in Telenor -- BSS ( Business Support Systems) Operations Executive
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Dear All, 

There is a permanent position of BSS Operations Executive ( for interconnect billing) in Telenor Pakistan. 

Before applying on the link below, please read following bullets to know who qualifies for this job.

  • Only Computer Science/ Computer engineering graduates should apply.
  • You should have at least 2 years of Development/Support/Operations experience with a well known organization. 
  • Good knowledge and work experience of DBMS, SQL/PLSQL, Scripting is must to have.
  • You should be willing to shift your existing nature of job to Operations. 
  • You should be highly energetic and passionate for working in fast paced telecom industry. 
  • Must have good communication skills. 

Now please go the link below, prepare your online CV, send me your CV and CV-tracking number. Please ensure that you have work experience of at least 2 years otherwise your CV will be disregarded. 


Last date for applying for this job is 15th-December-2009



regards,
Aamer Rasheed Qureshi
Assistant Manager Mediation and Interconnect 
Technology Division -- Telenor Pakistan. 


Batch 02 
FAST Islamabad



#5032 From: sohail abbasi <sohail_aziz05@...>
Date: Sat Dec 5, 2009 11:16 am
Subject: vote against the ban on Minerats in switerzland [OffTopic]
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salam everybody ,

Plz raise your voice , go on the link  http://www.petitiononline.com/c0ndemnd/petition.html
and vote for the petition below.

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Recent acts of

Ban over veil [1] [ in France ]
Ban over the minarets of Masjids [2] [ in Switzerland]

can lead to the never ending clashes among the communities of different faiths. This will not only disrupt the global religious harmony but will also cause security threats for the minorities (Muslims , Christans , Hindus , Jews etc) in different regions of the word.If this thing once accepted/legalized, will give right to every majority ,to abuse the fundamental rights of the minorities.

If this is ALLOWED to happen , it would have more devastating effect than a ATOMIC war.

Let's save this world ,which is already burning in the fire of extremism and terrorism.

Let's put our weight in making this world a peaceful place ,

WE WANT TO MAKE THIS WORLD A PEACEFUL PLACE.

WE CONDEMN ALL TYPE OF RELIGIOUS DISCRIMINATION AND RACISM.

WE DEMAND THE FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHTS FOR EVERYONE (INCLUDING LIBERTY).

WE CONDEMN THE BAN ON MINARETS AND VEIL.



[1] covering face and head as a religious obligation by muslim women.
[2] Muslim's places of worship.


"PEACEFUL HUMAN BEING "



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Regards ,

Sohail Aziz


#5031 From: Rafaeel Akbar Chaudhry [ุฑุงูุนŒู„ ุงฺฉุจุฑ ฺ†ูˆุฏฺพุฑŒ] <colraf@...>
Date: Fri Dec 4, 2009 9:24 am
Subject: Fwd: LUMS Information Session for MS/PhD programs in School of Science and Engineering
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LUMS SSE would be hosting an Open Day for its MS/Ph.D Programs as per the attached schedule in AKU (Karachi) and LUMS (Lahore) this Sunday.ย  Final Year Students and those who are looking for higher education opportunities are encouraged to attend. Also kindly disseminate this information to the relevant groups in your network.


Regards,
Rafaeel A Chaudhry
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Please circulate the following announcement regarding the LUMS Open Day to all your batch-mates and seniors with EE, CMPE or CS (or similar) background. I am also attaching a poster that you may place at appropriate places on campus.

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Thanks,

Zartash

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LUMS School of Science and Engineering Graduate Programs

Information Session

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Come and interact with LUMS SSE faculty members to learn about unique opportunities of graduate study in LUMS.

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The School of Science and Engineering (SSE) at LUMS is launching the graduate programs (MS/PhD) โ€“ specifically for students with EE/CS/CMPE background. The graduate programs feature rigorous coursework, cutting edge research, and generous financial aid opportunities for those bright students who may not afford to pay the tuition.

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Sunday, 6th December, 2009

- Aga Khan University, Stadium Road, Karachi, Anatomy Room โ€“ 10:30 am to 12:30 pm

- Lahore Univ of Management Sciences, DHA, Lahore, Auditorium A-14 โ€“ 11:00 am to 1:00 pm

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Who should Attend:

Final year students or those who have already completed their Bachelors degrees in EE, CS, Computer Engineering, Telecom Engineering or allied disciplines, interested in pursuing an MS or a PhD degree.

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About LUMS SSE

LUMS School of Science and Engineering (SSE) is Pakistanโ€™s first private research school for science and Engineering. Viewing Science as an agent of social and economic change, it believes that teaching and research are not separate activities. Matching the best research universities in the world and having first-class standards in all its pursuits: teaching, research, entrepreneurship and institutional impact, SSE promises to change science and engineering education in Pakistan.

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With the undergraduate program launched in 2008, graduate programs at SSE are starting in Fall 2010, promising to provide a unique learning and research experience to its graduate students.

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#5030 From: "Dr.Amjad Hussain" <amjad.hussain@...>
Date: Wed Dec 2, 2009 6:32 am
Subject: RE: homecoming schedule
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Please inform me from whom I can buy a ticket?

 

Dr. Amjad Hussain

Prof. EE, FAST-NU, Lahore

 

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Cc: Sahics All; futurefast; gof@yahoogroups.com; reps2009@...; departments@...; OSAF Reps
Subject: [FutureFAST] homecoming schedule

 

 

Dear Board Members

Assalamo Alaikum

 

We are organizing homecoming at Lahore Campus on Friday, December 04, 2009 from 6PM onwards. We would be more than happy if you we would have representation from all 4 campuses. 

 

The event schedule is as follows:

06:00PM to 07:00PM Seminar on Opportunities of Higher Education by Kaplan

07:00PM to 08:00PM Alumni-Faculty Meeting

08:00PM to 08:30PM Alumni-Rector Meeting

08:30PM to 09:30PM Songs, skits, speeches, prize distribution

09:30PM to 10:00PM Dinner

10:00PM to 11:55PM Classical Performance by Javed Bashir (Mekaal Hasan Band)


Regards,
Burhan Rasool

Old Students Association of FAST-NU

Lahore Chapter of

FAST-NU Alumni Association


#5029 From: Burhan Rasool <burhan.rasool@...>
Date: Wed Dec 2, 2009 4:00 am
Subject: homecoming schedule
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Dear Board Members
Assalamo Alaikum

We are organizing homecoming at Lahore Campus on Friday, December 04, 2009 from 6PM onwards. We would be more than happy if you we would have representation from all 4 campuses. 

The event schedule is as follows:
06:00PM to 07:00PM Seminar on Opportunities of Higher Education by Kaplan
07:00PM to 08:00PM Alumni-Faculty Meeting
08:00PM to 08:30PM Alumni-Rector Meeting
08:30PM to 09:30PM Songs, skits, speeches, prize distribution
09:30PM to 10:00PM Dinner
10:00PM to 11:55PM Classical Performance by Javed Bashir (Mekaal Hasan Band)

Regards,
Burhan Rasool
Old Students Association of FAST-NU
Lahore Chapter of
FAST-NU Alumni Association

#5028 From: "F @ | $ @ L" <lethallion31@...>
Date: Tue Dec 1, 2009 9:56 am
Subject: A brilliant vice chancellor is abducted; authorities prevent an official investigation
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Urgent Appeal: AHRC-UAC-161-2009



25 November 2009
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PAKISTAN: A university vice chancellor is abducted; authorities prevent an official investigation

ISSUES: Disappearance; politics; administration of justice
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Dear friends,

The Asian Human Rights Commission has learned that twenty days after the abduction of a high profile scientist in the North West Frontier Province (NWFP), no official investigation has been held into his disappearance. Political agents in the federally administered tribal area have told the man's family not to lodge a criminal complaint, and his abduction is not being dealt with within the law. The area is under tight military control and no insurgents have claimed responsibility for the crime or issued demands. A government enquiry is immediately necessary and if the professor has been arrested his safety must be accounted for, his case made available for legal scrutiny, and those responsible for the events must be held accountable.

CASE DETAILS:

According to information we have received from the victim's family, Dr. Lutfullah Kakakhel was kidnapped on 6 November 2009 along with his driver and another employee. Dr. Kakakhel is the Vice-Chancellor of the Kohat University of Sciences and Technology (KUST) and former advisor to the NWFP governor.

On the day of his abduction the professor was traveling from Peshawar through Darra Adam Khel, a known militant stronghold, at around 6pm. The car was near a graveyard, a madrassa and an Islamic machinery school when it was stopped by seven armed men, who took the passengers' cell phones. Ten other people reportedly joined the armed group and demanded to know the identity of the professor. He and the two men were driven away in their car by the armed men shortly after, though the two employees were released 30 minutes later along the road. The whereabouts of Dr. Kakakhel remain unknown.

The family wanted to register a case with the police, but have been repeatedly advised not to by both the area's federal government's representative (the political agent of Orakzai) and the governor of the NWFP. Both have claimed that efforts are being made to find the doctor outside of the legal mechanism. No progress has been seen by the family and the political interference in the complaints procedure is illegal. The family must be allowed to exercise their right to file a case of disappearance through the courts and the authorities must be seen to be doing their utmost to locate the doctor and secure his safe release from detention, according to the law.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:

The area from which the Vice Chancellor was abducted has recently undergone severe military operations; many of its buildings have been demolished by artillery, soldiers patrol the streets and security checkpoints are frequent. Two months ago the government and army agencies announced that Darra Adam Khel had been cleared of militants.

Dr. Kakakhel is a renowned professor who has helped establish universities of science and technology across the province, particularly during his former role as advisor to the provincial government. Students and professors from various universities have held numerous protests against the clear lack of official action being taken in the case.

SUGGESTED ACTION:

Please write to the authorities below demanding for a lawful investigation to be immediately launched into the professor's abduction, and urging his safe recovery.

The AHRC has written a separate letter to the Chairperson of the UN Working Group on Enforced or Involuntary Disappearances.

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Dear ___________,

Re: PAKISTAN: A university vice chancellor is abducted; authorities prevent an official investigation

Name of the victim: Dr. Lutfullah Kakakhel, Vice Chancellor, Kohat University of Science and Technology, 4- Shaheen Towm, House # 5, P.O. Tehkal Bala, Peshawar, North West Frontier Province (NWFP).

Date of incident: November 6, 2009
Place of incident: Darra Adam Khel, NWFP

I am writing to voice my deep concern regarding the lack of open investigation into the abduction and disappearance of Dr. Lutfullah Kakakhel, Vice Chancellor of the Kohat University of Science and Technology. I am told that Dr. Kakakhel was abducted on November 6, 2009 and that no case has been lodged regarding his disappearance.

I am shocked to hear that the NWFP authorities have not taken decisive action to search for him, or investigated the area from which he was abducted, though they claim that the perpetrators are unidentifiable. The area, Darra Adam Khel, remains under the tight control of security forces since operations there two months ago.

Furthermore I am told that the area's federal government's representative and the governor of the NWFP have both advised the family not to register a case with the police. Both have claimed that efforts are being made to locate the doctor outside of the law.

I consider the response of the authorities, and the political interference with the legal process highly questionable. Please intervene to bring this case into the open and to launch a lawful investigation that will ensure the safe recovery of Dr. Lutfullah Kakakhel, and criminal sanctions against those responsible for his abduction.

Yours sincerely,

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PLEASE SEND YOUR LETTERS TO:

1. Mr. Asif Ali Zardari
President
President's Secretariat
Islamabad
PAKISTAN
Fax: +92 51 9922 1422, 4768/ 9920 1893 or 1835
E-mail: (please see: http://www.presidentofpakistan.gov.pk/WTPresidentMessage.aspx)

2. Mr. Syed Yousaf Raza Gillani
Prime Minister
Prime Minister House
Islamabad
PAKISTAN
Fax: +92 51 9922 1596
Tel: +92 51 9920 6111
E-mail: webmaster@...

3. Mr. Rehman Malik
Minister of Interior
Room No. 404, 4th Floor, R Block,
Pak Secretariat
Islamabad
PAKISTAN
Fax: +92 51 920 2624
Tel: +92 51 9921 2026
E-mail: minister@...

4. Minister of Law, Justice and Human Rights
S Block Pakistan Secretariat
Islamabad -PAKISTAN
Fax: +92 51 9920 2628
E-mail: minister@... or naelaw786@...

5. Mr. Amir Haider Khan
Chief Minister
Government of North West Frontier Province
Peshawar โ€“PAKISTAN
FAX: +92-91-9210707

6. Mr. Basheer Ahmed Bilor
Senior minister
Government of North West Frontier Province
Peshawar
Pakistan
Fax: +92 91 921 2533
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#5027 From: Muhammad Qasim <mqasim.khan@...>
Date: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:45 pm
Subject: Happy Eid Mubarak.
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Dear All,
Happy EID MUBARAK.


May ALLAH Shower HIS countless blessings upon all of you forever.

Regards,
Muhammad Qasim



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#5026 From: sohaib tariq <sohaibtariq@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:39 am
Subject: [Off Topic] Are Pakistan Nukes going to be in the Hands of the Radical Islamists
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Aoa,
For those who have read symore's article. here is a very gud analysis of saleem qureshi published in jang news recently.





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#5025 From: Mati Ullah <mati.ullah@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:43 am
Subject: hello a v
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Dear friend,
How are you doing recently?
I found a good website last week:  www.etstrade.com.
They do internationa business and they sell different kinds of electronic products. Such as laptops, digital cameras, phones, notebooks and so on. Their products are new and original and have 3 years international warranty, so we can fix the product in our own country for free. Now , the Cristmas day is coming,they are promoting their products. So the prices are very competitive. I am sure it will be a good choice for us.
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#5024 From: Q R Kazmi <qaribraza@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:31 am
Subject: Positions at Bentley systems Pakistan
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Hi,

We have 2 new
open positions of BOPS in Bentley Systems Islamabad. The detail of these
positions is attached in a PDF document:


You can also find
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You can send resumeโ€™s at Qarib.kazmi@...

Regards,
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#5023 From: sohaib tariq <sohaibtariq@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:29 am
Subject: [Off Topic] Are Pakistan Nukes going to be in the Hands of the Radical Islamists
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This article (Published in the New Yorker) was highlighted and talked about quite a lot in the Big Media Campaign (Local and International) and its a well researched article. i found it quite interesting to share especially for those interested in Defense analysis and future prospects of Pakistan. Read it all the way through till the end to know the real crux of the subject matter.



ANNALS OF NATIONAL SECURITY

DEFENDING THE ARSENAL

In an unstable Pakistan, can nuclear warheads be kept safe?

by Seymour M. HershNOVEMBER 16, 2009

Americaโ€™s dealings with Pakistan may be increasing the risk of radicalization.

Americaโ€™s dealings with Pakistan may be increasing the risk of radicalization.

n the tumultuous days leading up to the Pakistan Armyโ€™s ground offensive in the tribal area of South Waziristan, which began on October 17th, the Pakistani Taliban attacked what should have been some of the countryโ€™s best-guarded targets. In the most brazen strike, ten gunmen penetrated the Armyโ€™s main headquarters, in Rawalpindi, instigating a twenty-two-hour standoff that left twenty-three dead and the military thoroughly embarrassed. The terrorists had been dressed in Army uniforms. There were also attacks on police installations in Peshawar and Lahore, and, once the offensive began, an Army general was shot dead by gunmen on motorcycles on the streets of Islamabad, the capital. The assassins clearly had advance knowledge of the generalโ€™s route, indicating that they had contacts and allies inside the security forces.

Pakistan has been a nuclear power for two decades, and has an estimated eighty to a hundred warheads, scattered in facilities around the country. The success of the latest attacks raised an obvious question: Are the bombs safe? Asked this question the day after the Rawalpindi raid, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said, โ€œWe have confidence in the Pakistani government and the militaryโ€™s control over nuclear weapons.โ€ Clintonโ€”whose own visit to Pakistan, two weeks later, would be disrupted by more terrorist bombsโ€”added that, despite the attacks by the Taliban, โ€œwe see no evidence that they are going to take over the state.โ€

Clintonโ€™s words sounded reassuring, and several current and former officials also said in interviews that the Pakistan Army was in full control of the nuclear arsenal. But the Taliban overrunning Islamabad is not the only, or even the greatest, concern. The principal fear is mutinyโ€”that extremists inside the Pakistani military might stage a coup, take control of some nuclear assets, or even divert a warhead.

On April 29th, President Obama was asked at a news conference whether he could reassure the American people that Pakistanโ€™s nuclear arsenal could be kept away from terrorists. Obamaโ€™s answer remains the clearest delineation of the Administrationโ€™s public posture. He was, he said, โ€œgravely concernedโ€ about the fragility of the civilian government of President Asif Ali Zardari. โ€œTheir biggest threat right now comes internally,โ€ Obama said. โ€œWe have huge . . . national-security interests in making sure that Pakistan is stable and that you donโ€™t end up having a nuclear-armed militant state.โ€ The United States, he said, could โ€œmake sure that Pakistanโ€™s nuclear arsenal is secureโ€”primarily, initially, because the Pakistan Army, I think, recognizes the hazards of those weaponsโ€™ falling into the wrong hands.โ€

The questioner, Chuck Todd, of NBC, began asking whether the American military could, if necessary, move in and secure Pakistanโ€™s bombs. Obama did not let Todd finish. โ€œIโ€™m not going to engage in hypotheticals of that sort,โ€ he said. โ€œI feel confident that the nuclear arsenal will remain out of militant hands. O.K.?โ€

Obama did not say so, but current and former officials said in interviews in Washington and Pakistan that his Administration has been negotiating highly sensitive understandings with the Pakistani military. These would allow specially trained American units to provide added security for the Pakistani arsenal in case of a crisis. At the same time, the Pakistani military would be given money to equip and train Pakistani soldiers and to improve their housing and facilitiesโ€”goals that General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, the chief of the Pakistan Army, has long desired. In June, Congress approved a four-hundred-million-dollar request for what the Administration called the Pakistan Counterinsurgency Capability Fund, providing immediate assistance to the Pakistan Army for equipment, training, and โ€œrenovation and construction.โ€

The secrecy surrounding the understandings was important because there is growing antipathy toward America in Pakistan, as well as a history of distrust. Many Pakistanis believe that Americaโ€™s true goal is not to keep their weapons safe but to diminish or destroy the Pakistani nuclear complex. The arsenal is a source of great pride among Pakistanis, who view the weapons as symbols of their nationโ€™s status and as an essential deterrent against an attack by India. (Indiaโ€™s first nuclear test took place in 1974, Pakistanโ€™s in 1998.)

A senior Pakistani official who has close ties to Zardari exploded with anger during an interview when the subject turned to the American demands for more information about the arsenal. After the September 11th attacks, he said, there had been an understanding between the Bush Administration and then President Pervez Musharraf โ€œover what Pakistan had and did not have.โ€ Today, he said, โ€œyouโ€™d like control of our day-to-day deployment. But why should we give it to you? Even if there was a military coup dโ€™รฉtat in Pakistan, no one is going to give up total control of our nuclear weapons. Never. Why are you not afraid of Indiaโ€™snuclear weapons?โ€ the official asked. โ€œBecause India is your friend, and the longtime policies of America and India converge. Between you and the Indians, you will fuck us in every way. The truth is that our weapons are less of a problem for the Obama Administration than finding a respectable way out of Afghanistan.โ€

The ongoing consultation on nuclear security between Washington and Islamabad intensified after the announcement in March of President Obamaโ€™s so-called Af-Pak policy, which called upon the Pakistan Army to take more aggressive action against Taliban enclaves inside Pakistan. I was told that the understandings on nuclear coรถperation benefitted from the increasingly close relationship between Admiral Michael Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and General Kayani, his counterpart, although the C.I.A. and the Departments of Defense, State, and Energy have also been involved. (All three departments declined to comment for this article. The national-security council and the C.I.A. denied that there were any agreements in place.)

In response to a series of questions, Admiral Mullen acknowledged that he and Kayani were, in his spokesmanโ€™s words, โ€œvery close.โ€ The spokesman said that Mullen is deeply involved in day-to-day Pakistani developments and โ€œis almost an action officer for all things Pakistan.โ€ But he denied that he and Kayani, or their staffs, had reached an understanding about the availability of American forces in case of mutiny or a terrorist threat to a nuclear facility. โ€œTo my knowledge, we have no military units, special forces or otherwise, involved in such an assignment,โ€ Mullen said through his spokesman. The spokesman added that Mullen had not seen any evidence of growing fundamentalism inside the Pakistani military. In a news conference on May 4th, however, Mullen responded to a query about growing radicalism in Pakistan by saying that โ€œwhat has clearly happened over the [past] twelve months is the continual decline, gradual decline, in security.โ€ The Admiral also spoke openly about the increased coรถperation on nuclear security between the United States and Pakistan: โ€œI know what weโ€™ve done over the last three years, specifically to both invest, assist, and Iโ€™ve watched them improve their security fairly dramatically. . . . Iโ€™ve looked at this, you know, as hard as I can, over a period of time.โ€ Seventeen days later, he told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, โ€œWe have invested a significant amount of resources through the Department of Energy in the last several yearsโ€ to help Pakistan improve the controls on its arsenal. โ€œThey still have to improve them,โ€ he said.

In interviews in Pakistan, I obtained confirmation that there were continuing conversations with the United States on nuclear-security plansโ€”as well as evidence that the Pakistani leadership put much less weight on them than the Americans did. In some cases, Pakistani officials spoke of the talks principally as a means of placating anxious American politicians. โ€œYou needed it,โ€ a senior Pakistani official, who said that he had been briefed on the nuclear issue, told me. His tone was caustic. โ€œWe have twenty thousand people working in the nuclear-weapons industry in Pakistan, and here is this American view that Pakistan is bound to fail.โ€ The official added, โ€œThe Americans are saying, โ€˜We want to help protect your weapons.โ€™ We say, โ€˜Fine. Tell us what you can do for us.โ€™ Itโ€™s part of a quid pro quo. You say, also, โ€˜Come clean on the nuclear program and weโ€™ll insure that India doesnโ€™t put pressure on it.โ€™ So we say, โ€˜O.K.โ€™ โ€

But, the Pakistani official said, โ€œboth sides are lying to each other.โ€ The information that the Pakistanis handed over was not as complete as the Americans believed. โ€œWe havenโ€™t told you anything that you donโ€™t know,โ€ he said. The Americans didnโ€™t realize that Pakistan would never cede control of its arsenal: โ€œIf you try to take the weapons away, you will fail.โ€

igh-level coรถperation between Islamabad and Washington on the Pakistani nuclear arsenal began at least eight years ago. Former President Musharraf, when I interviewed him in London recently, acknowledged that his government had held extensive discussions with the Bush Administration after the September 11th attacks, and had given State Department nonproliferation experts insight into the command and control of the Pakistani arsenal and its on-site safety and security procedures. Musharraf also confirmed that Pakistan had constructed a huge tunnel system for the transport and storage of nuclear weaponry. โ€œThe tunnels are so deep that a nuclear attack will not touch them,โ€ Musharraf told me, with obvious pride. The tunnels would make it impossible for the American intelligence communityโ€”โ€œBig Uncle,โ€ as a Pakistani nuclear-weapons expert called itโ€”to monitor the movements of nuclear components by satellite.

Safeguards have been built into the system. Pakistani nuclear doctrine calls for the warheads (containing an enriched radioactive core) and their triggers (sophisticated devices containing highly explosive lenses, detonators, and krytrons) to be stored separately from each other and from their delivery devices (missiles or aircraft). The goal is to insure that no one can launch a warheadโ€”in the heat of a showdown with India, for exampleโ€”without pausing to put it together. Final authority to order a nuclear strike requires consensus within Pakistanโ€™s ten-member National Command Authority, with the chairmanโ€”by statute, President Zardariโ€”casting the deciding vote.

But the safeguards meant to keep a confrontation with India from escalating too quickly could make the arsenal more vulnerable to terrorists. Nuclear-security experts have war-gamed the process and concluded that the triggers and other elements are most exposed when they are being moved and reassembledโ€”at those moments there would be fewer barriers between an outside group and the bomb. A consultant to the intelligence community said that in one war-gamed scenario disaffected members of the Pakistani military could instigate a terrorist attack inside India, and that the ensuing crisis would give them โ€œa chance to pick up bombs and triggersโ€”in the name of protecting the assets from extremists.โ€

The triggers are a key element in American contingency plans. An American former senior intelligence official said that a team that has trained for years to remove or dismantle parts of the Pakistani arsenal has now been augmented by a unit of the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), the รฉlite counterterrorism group. He added that the unit, which had earlier focussed on the warheadsโ€™ cores, has begun to concentrate on evacuating the triggers, which have no radioactive material and are thus much easier to handle.

โ€œThe Pakistanis gave us a virtual look at the number of warheads, some of their locations, and their command-and-control system,โ€ the former senior intelligence official told me. โ€œWe saw their target list and their mobilization plans. We got their security plans, so we could augment them in case of a breach of security,โ€ he said. โ€œWeโ€™re there to help the Pakistanis, but weโ€™re also there to extend our own axis of security to their nuclear stockpile.โ€ The detailed American planning even includes an estimate of how many nuclear triggers could be placed inside a C-17 cargo plane, the former official said, and where the triggers could be sequestered. Admiral Mullen, asked about increased American insight into the arsenal, said, through his spokesman, โ€œI am not aware of our receipt of any such information.โ€ (A senior military officer added that the information, if it had been conveyed, would most likely โ€œhave gone to another government agency.โ€)

A spokesman for the Pakistani military said, in an official denial, โ€œPakistan neither needs any American unit for enhancing the security for its arsenal nor would accept it.โ€ The spokesman added that the Pakistani military โ€œhas been providing protection to U.S. troops in a situation of crisisโ€โ€”a reference to Pakistanโ€™s role in the war on terrorโ€”โ€œand hence is quite capable to deal with any untoward situation.โ€

Early this summer, a consultant to the Department of Defense said, a highly classified military and civil-emergency response team was put on alert after receiving an urgent report from American intelligence officials indicating that a Pakistani nuclear component had gone astray. The team, which operates clandestinely and includes terrorism and nonproliferation experts from the intelligence community, the Pentagon, the F.B.I., and the D.O.E., is under standing orders to deploy from Andrews Air Force Base, in Maryland, within four hours of an alert. When the report turned out to be a false alarm, the mission was aborted, the consultant said. By the time the team got the message, it was already in Dubai.

In an actual crisis, would the Pakistanis give an American team direct access to their arsenal? An adviser to the Pentagon on counterinsurgency said that some analysts suspected that the Pakistani military had taken steps to move elements of the nuclear arsenal โ€œout of the countโ€โ€”to shift them to a storage facility known only to a very fewโ€”as a hedge against mutiny or an American or Indian effort to seize them. โ€œIf you thought your American ally was telling your enemy where the weapons were, youโ€™d do the same thing,โ€ the adviser said.

et me say this about our nuclear deterrent,โ€ President Zardari told me, when asked about any recent understandings between Pakistan and the United States. โ€œWe give comfort to each other, and the comfort level is good, because everybody respects everybodyโ€™s integrity. Weโ€™re all big boys.โ€

Zardari and I met twice, first in his office, in the grand but isolated Presidential compound in Islamabad, and then, a few days later, alone over dinner in his personal quarters. Zardari, who became President after the assassination, in December, 2007, of his charismatic wife, former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, spent nearly eleven years in jail on corruption charges. He is widely known in Pakistan as Mr. Ten Per Cent, a reference to the commissions he allegedly took on government contracts when Bhutto was in power, and is seen by many Pakistanis as little more than a crook who has grown too close to America; his approval ratings are in the teens. He is chatty but guarded, proud but defensive, and, like many Pakistanis, convinced that the United States will always favor India. Over dinner, he spoke of his suspicions regarding his wifeโ€™s death. He said that, despite rumors to the contrary, he would complete his five-year term.

Zardari spoke with derision about what he depicted as Americaโ€™s obsession with the vulnerability of his nationโ€™s nuclear arsenal. โ€œIn your country, you feel that you have to hold the fort for us,โ€ he said. โ€œThe American people want a lot of answers for the errors of the past, and itโ€™s very easy to spread fear. Our Army officers are not crazy, like the Taliban. Theyโ€™re British-trained. Why would they slip up on nuclear security? A mutiny would never happen in Pakistan. Itโ€™s a fear being spread by the few who seek to scare the many.โ€

Zardari offered some advice to Barack Obama: instead of fretting about nuclear security in Pakistan, his Administration should deal with the military disparity between Pakistan and India, which has a much larger army. โ€œYou should help us get conventional weapons,โ€ he said. โ€œItโ€™s a balance-of-power issue.โ€

In May, Zardari, at the urging of the United States, approved a major offensive against the Taliban, sending thirty thousand troops into the Swat Valley, which lies a hundred miles northwest of Islamabad. โ€œThe enemy that we were fighting in Swat was made up of twenty per cent thieves and thugs and eighty per cent with the same mind-set as the Taliban,โ€ Zardari said. He depicted the operation as a complete success, but added that his government was not โ€œreadyโ€ to kill all the Taliban. His long-term solution, Zardari said, was to provide new business opportunities in Swat and turn the Taliban into entrepreneurs. โ€œMoney is the best incentive,โ€ he said. โ€œThey can be rented.โ€

Zardariโ€™s view of the Swat offensive was striking, given that many Pakistanis had been angered by the excessive use of force and the ensuing refugee crisis. The lives of about two million people were torn apart, and, during a summer in which temperatures soared to a hundred and twenty degrees, hundreds of thousands of civilians were crowded into government-run tent cities. Idris Khattak, a former student radical who now works with Amnesty International, said in Peshawar that residents had described nights of heavy, indiscriminate bombing and shelling, followed in the morning by Army sweeps. The villagers, and not the Taliban, had been hit the hardest. โ€œPeople told us that the bombing the night before was a signal for the Taliban to get out,โ€ he said.

Zardari did not dispute that there were difficulties in the refugee campsโ€”the heat, the lack of facilities. But he insisted that the fault lay with the civilians, who, he said, had been far too tolerant of the Taliban. The suffering could serve a useful purpose: after a summer in the tents, the citizens of Swat might have learned a lesson and would not โ€œlet the Taliban back into their cities.โ€

Rahimullah Yusufzai, an eminent Pakistani journalist, who has twice interviewed Osama bin Laden, had a different explanation for the conditions that led to the offensive. โ€œThe Taliban were initially trying to win public support in Swat by delivering justice and peace,โ€ Yusufzai said. โ€œBut when they got into power they went crazy and became brutal. Many are from the lowest ranks of society, and they began killing and terrorizing their opponents. The people were afraid.โ€

The turmoil did not end with the Armyโ€™s invasion. โ€œMost of the people who were in the refugee camps told us that the Army was equally bad. There was so much killing,โ€ Yusufzai said. The government had placed limits on reporters who tried to enter the Swat Valley during the attack, but afterward Yusufzai and his colleagues were able to interview officers. โ€œThey told us they hated what they were doingโ€”โ€˜We were trained to fight Indians.โ€™ โ€ But that changed when they sustained heavy losses, especially of junior officers. โ€œThey were killing everybody after their colleagues were killedโ€”just like the Americans with their Predator missiles,โ€ Yusufzai said. โ€œWhat the Army did not understand, and what the Americans donโ€™t understand, is that by demolishing the house of a suspected Taliban or their supporters you are making an enemy of the whole family.โ€ What looked like a tactical victory could turn out to be a strategic failure.

he Obama Administration has had difficulty coming to terms with how unhappy many Pakistanis are with the United States. Secretary of State Clinton, during her three-day โ€œgood-will visitโ€ to Pakistan, late last month, seemed taken aback by the angry and, at times, provocative criticism of American policies that dominated many of her public appearances, and responded defensively.

Last year, the Washington Times ran an article about the Pressler Amendment, a 1985 law cutting off most military aid to Pakistan as long as it continued its nuclear program. The measure didnโ€™t stop Pakistan from getting the bomb, or from buying certain weapons, but it did reduce the number of Pakistani officers who were permitted to train with American units. The article quoted Major General John Custer as saying, โ€œThe older military leaders love us. They understand American culture and they know we are not the enemy.โ€ The Generalโ€™s assessment provoked a barrage of e-mail among American officers with experience in Pakistan, and a former member of a Special Forces unit provided me with copies. โ€œThe fact that a two-star would make a statement [like] that . . . is at best naรฏve and actually pure bullshit,โ€ a senior Special Forces officer on duty in Pakistan wrote. He went on:


I have met and interacted with the entire military staff from General Kayani on down and all the general officers on their joint staff and in all the services, and I havenโ€™t spoken to one that โ€œloves usโ€โ€”whatever that means. In fact, I have read most of the TS [top secret] assessments of all their General Officers and I havenโ€™t read one that comes close to their โ€œlovingโ€ us. They play us for everything they can get, and we trip over ourselves trying to give them everything they ask for, and cannot pay for.

Some military men who know Pakistan well believe that, whatever the officer corpsโ€™s personal views, the Pakistan Army remains reliable. โ€œThey cannot be described as pro-American, but this doesnโ€™t mean they donโ€™t know which side their bread is buttered on,โ€ Brian Cloughley, who served six years as Australiaโ€™s defense attachรฉ to Pakistan and is now a contributor to Janeโ€™s Sentinel, told me. โ€œThe chance of mutiny is slim. Were this to happen, there would be the most severe reactionโ€ by special security units in the Pakistani military, Cloughley said. โ€œBut worry feeds irrationality, and the international consequences could be dire.โ€

The recollections of Bush Administration officials who dealt with Pakistan in the first round of nuclear consultations after September 11th do not inspire confidence. The Americansโ€™ main contact was Lieutenant General Khalid Kidwai, the head of Pakistanโ€™s Strategic Plans Division, the agency that is responsible for nuclear strategy and operations and for the physical security of the weapons complex. At first, a former high-level Bush Administration official told me, Kidwai was reassuring; his professionalism increased their faith in the soundness of Pakistanโ€™s nuclear doctrine and its fail-safe procedures. The Army was controlled by Punjabis who, the Americans thought, โ€œdid not put up with Pashtuns,โ€ as the former Bush Administration official put it. (The Taliban are mostly Pashtun.) But by the time the official left, at the beginning of George W. Bushโ€™s second term, he had a much darker assessment: โ€œThey donโ€™t trust us and they will not tell you the truth.โ€

No American, for example, was permitted access to A. Q. Khan, the metallurgist and so-called father of the Pakistani atomic bomb, who traded crucial nuclear-weapons components on the international black market. Musharraf placed him under house arrest in early 2004, claiming to have been shocked to learn of Khanโ€™s dealings. At the time, it was widely understood that those activities had been sanctioned by Pakistanโ€™s Inter-Services Intelligence (I.S.I.). Khan was freed in February, although there are restrictions on his travel. (In an interview last year, Kidwai told David Sanger, for his book โ€œThe Inheritance,โ€ that โ€œour security systems are foolproof,โ€ thanks to technical controls; Sanger noted that Bush Administration officials were โ€œnot as confident in private as they sound in public.โ€)

A former State Department official who worked on nuclear issues with Pakistan after September 11th said that heโ€™d come to understand that the Pakistanis โ€œbelieve that any information we get from them would be shared with othersโ€”perhaps even the Indians. To know the command-and-control processes of their nuclear weapons is one thing. To know where the weapons actually are is another thing.โ€

The former State Department official cited the large Pakistan Air Force base outside Sargodha, west of Lahore, where many of Pakistanโ€™s nuclear-capable F-16s are thought to be stationed. โ€œIs there a nuke ready to go at Sargodha?โ€ the former official asked. โ€œIf there is, and Sargodha is the size of Andrews Air Force Base, would we know where to go? Are the warheads stored in Bunker X?โ€ Ignorance could be dangerous. โ€œIf our people donโ€™t know where to go and we suddenly show up at a base, there will be a lot of people shooting at them,โ€ he said. โ€œAnd even if the Pakistanis may have told us that the triggers will be at Bunker X, is it true?โ€

In the July/August issue of Arms Control Today, Rolf Mowatt-Larssen, who recently retired after three years as the Department of Energyโ€™s director of intelligence and counter-intelligence, preceded by two decades at the C.I.A., wrote vividly about the โ€œlethal proximity between terrorists, extremists, and nuclear weapons insidersโ€ in Pakistan. โ€œInsiders have facilitated terrorist attacks. Suicide bombings have occurred at air force bases that reportedly serve as nuclear weapons storage sites. It is difficult to ignore such trends,โ€ Mowatt-Larssen wrote. โ€œPurely in actuarial terms, there is a strong possibility that bad apples in the nuclear establishment are willing to cooperate with outsiders for personal gain or out of sympathy for their cause. Nowhere in the world is this threat greater than in Pakistan. . . . Anything that helps upgrade Pakistanโ€™s nuclear security is an investmentโ€ in Americaโ€™s security.

Leslie H. Gelb, a president emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations, said, โ€œI donโ€™t think thereโ€™s any kind of an agreement we can count on. The Pakistanis have learned how to deal with us, and they understand that if they donโ€™t tell us what we want to hear weโ€™ll cut off their goodies.โ€ Gelb added, โ€œIn all these years, the C.I.A. never built up assets, but it talks as if there were โ€˜access.โ€™ I donโ€™t know if Obama understands that the Agency doesnโ€™t know what itโ€™s talking about.โ€

The former high-level Bush Administration official was just as blunt. โ€œIf a Pakistani general is talking to you about nuclear issues, and his lips are moving, heโ€™s lying,โ€ he said. โ€œThe Pakistanis wouldnโ€™t share their secrets with anybody, and certainly not with a country that, from their point of view, used them like a Dixie cup and then threw them away.โ€

ultan Amir Tarar, known to many as Colonel Imam, is the archetype of the disillusioned Pakistani officer. Tarar spent eighteen years with the I.S.I. in Afghanistan, most of them as an undercover operative. In the mujahideen war against the Soviet Union, in the eighties, he worked closely with C.I.A. agents, and liked the experience. โ€œThey were honest and thoughtful and provided the finest equipment,โ€ Tarar said during an interview in Rawalpindi. He spoke with pride of shaking hands with Robert Gates in Afghanistan in 1985. Gates, now the Secretary of Defense, was then a senior C.I.A. official. โ€œIโ€™ve heard all about you,โ€ Gates said, according to Tarar. โ€œGood or bad?โ€ โ€œOh, my. All good,โ€ Gates replied. Tararโ€™s view changed after the Russians withdrew and, in his opinion, โ€œthe Americans abandoned us.โ€ When I asked if heโ€™d seen โ€œCharlie Wilsonโ€™s War,โ€ the movie depicting that abandonment and a Texas congressmanโ€™s futile efforts to change the policy, Tarar laughed and said, โ€œIโ€™ve seen Charlie Wilson. I didnโ€™t need to see the movie.โ€

Tarar, who retired in 1995 and has a son in the Army, believedโ€”as did many Pakistani military menโ€”that the American campaign to draw Pakistan deeper into the war against the Taliban would backfire. โ€œThe Americans are trying to rent out their war to us,โ€ he said. If the Obama Administration persists, โ€œthere will be an uprising here, and this corrupt government will collapse. Every Pakistani will then be his own nuclear bombโ€”a suicide bomber,โ€ Tarar said. โ€œThe longer the war goes on, the longer it will spill over in the tribal territories, and it will lead to a revolutionary stage. People there will flee to the big cities like Lahore and Islamabad.โ€

Tarar believed that the Obama Administration had to negotiate with the Afghan Taliban, even if that meant direct talks with Mullah Omar, the Taliban leader. Tarar knew Mullah Omar well. โ€œOmar trained as a young man in my camp in 1985,โ€ he told me. โ€œHe was physically fit and mission-orientedโ€”a very honest man who was a practicing Muslim. Nothing beyond that. He was a Talibโ€”a student, and not a mullah. But people respected him. Today, among all the Afghan leaders, Omar has the biggest audience, and this is the right time for you to talk to him.โ€

Speaking to Tarar and other officers gave a glimpse of the acrimony at the top of the Pakistani government, which has complicated the nuclear equation. Tarar spoke bitterly about the position that General Kayani found himself in, carrying out the โ€œcorruptโ€ policies of the Americans and of Zardari, while Pakistanโ€™s soldiers โ€œwere fighting gallantly in Swat against their own people.โ€

A $7.5-billion American aid package, approved by Congress in September, was, to the surprise of many in Washington, controversial in Pakistan, because it contained provisions seen as strengthening Zardari at the expense of the military. Shaheen Sehbai, a senior editor of the newspaper International, said that Zardariโ€™s โ€œproblem is that heโ€™s besieged domestically on all sides, and he thinks only the Americans can save him,โ€ and, as a result, โ€œheโ€™ll open his pants for them.โ€ Sehbai noted that Kayaniโ€™s term as Army chief ends in the fall of 2010. If Zardari tried to replace him before then, Kayaniโ€™s colleagues would not accept his choice, and there could be โ€œa generalsโ€™ coup,โ€ Sehbai said. โ€œAmerica should worry more about the structure and organization of the Armyโ€”and keep it intact.โ€

Lieutenant General Hamid Gul was the director general of the I.S.I. in the late eighties and worked with the C.I.A. in Afghanistan. Gul, who is retired, is a devout Muslim and had been accused by the Bush Administration of having ties to the Taliban and Al Qaedaโ€”allegations he has denied. โ€œWhat would happen if, in a crisis, you tried to getโ€”or did not getโ€”our nuclear triggers? What happens then?โ€ Gul asked when we met. โ€œYou will have us as an enemy, with the Chinese and Russians behind us.โ€

If Pakistani officers had given any assurances about the nuclear arsenal, Gul said, โ€œthey are cheating you and they would be right to do so. We should not be aiding and abetting Americans.โ€

ersuading the Pakistan Army to concentrate on fighting the Taliban, and not India, is crucial to the Obama Administrationโ€™s plans for the region. There has been enmity between India and Pakistan since 1947, when Britainโ€™s withdrawal led to the partition of the subcontinent. The state of Kashmir, which was three-quarters Muslim but acceded to Hindu-majority India, has been in dispute ever since, and India and Pakistan have twice gone to war over the territory. Through the years, the Pakistan Army and the I.S.I. have relied on Pakistan-based jihadist groups, most notably Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Mohammed, to carry out a guerrilla war against the Indians in Kashmir. Many in the Pakistani military consider the groups to be an important strategic reserve.

A retired senior Pakistani intelligence officer, who worked with his C.I.A. counterparts to track down Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, said that he was deeply troubled by the prospect of Pakistan ceding any control over its nuclear deterrent. โ€œSuppose the jihadis strike at India againโ€”another attack on the parliament. India will tell the United States to stay out of it, and โ€˜Weโ€™ll sort it out on our own,โ€™ โ€ he said. โ€œThen there would be a ground attack into Pakistan. As we begin to react, the Americans will be interested in protecting our nuclear assets, and urge us not to go nuclearโ€”โ€˜Let the Indians attack and do not respond!โ€™ They would urge us instead to find those responsible for the attack on India. Our nuclear arsenal was supposed to be our savior, but we would end up protecting it. It doesnโ€™t protect us,โ€ he said.

โ€œMy belief today is that itโ€™s better to have the Americans as an enemy rather than as a friend, because you cannot be trusted,โ€ the former officer concluded. โ€œThe only good thing the United States did for us was to look the other way about an atomic bomb when it suited the United States to do so.โ€

Pakistanโ€™s fears about the United States coรถperating with India are not irrational. Last year, Congress approved a controversial agreement that enabled India to purchase nuclear fuel and technology from the United States without joining the Non-Proliferation Treaty, making India the only non-signatory to the N.P.T. permitted to do so. Concern about the Pakistani arsenal has since led to greater coรถperation between the United States and India in missile defense; the training of the Indian Air Force to use bunker-busting bombs; and โ€œthe collection of intelligence on the Pakistani nuclear arsenal,โ€ according to the consultant to the intelligence community. (The Pentagon declined to comment.)

I flew to New Delhi after my stay in Pakistan and met with two senior officials from the Research and Analysis Wing, Indiaโ€™s national intelligence agency. (Of course, as in Pakistan, no allegation about the other side should be taken at face value.) โ€œOur worries are about the nuclear weapons in Pakistan,โ€ one of the officials said. โ€œNot because we are worried about the mullahs taking over the country; weโ€™re worried about those senior officers in the Pakistan Army who are Caliphatesโ€โ€”believers in a fundamentalist pan-Islamic state. โ€œWe know some of them and we have names,โ€ he said. โ€œWeโ€™ve been watching colonels who are now brigadiers. These are the guys who could blackmail the whole worldโ€โ€”that is, by seizing a nuclear weapon.

The Indian intelligence official went on, โ€œDo we know if the Americans have that intelligence? This is not in the scheme of the way you Americans look at thingsโ€”โ€˜Kayani is a great guy! Letโ€™s have a drink and smoke a cigar with him and his buddies.โ€™ Some of the men we are watching have notions of leading an Islamic army.โ€

In an interview the next afternoon, an Indian official who has dealt diplomatically with Pakistan for years said, โ€œPakistan is in trouble, and itโ€™s worrisome to us because an unstable Pakistan is the worst thing we can have.โ€ But he wasnโ€™t sure what America could do. โ€œThey like us better in Pakistan than you Americans,โ€ he said. โ€œI can tell you that in a public-opinion poll we, India, will beat you.โ€

India and Pakistan, he added, have had back-channel talks for years in an effort to resolve the dispute over Kashmir, but โ€œPakistan wants talks for the sake of talks, and it does not carry out the agreements already reached.โ€ (In late October, Manmohan Singh, the Indian Prime Minister, publicly renewed an offer of talks, but tied it to a request that Pakistan crack down on terrorism; Pakistanโ€™s official response was to welcome the overture.)

The Indian official, like his counterparts in Pakistan, believed that Americans did not appreciate what his government had done for them. โ€œWhy did the Pakistanis remove two divisions from the border with us?โ€ He was referring to the shifting of Pakistani forces, at the request of the United States, to better engage the Taliban. โ€œIt means they have confidence that we will not take advantage of the situation. We deserve a pat on the back for this.โ€ Instead, the official said, with a shrug, โ€œyou are too concerned with your relationship with Pakistan.โ€

ervez Musharraf lives in unpretentious exile with his wife in an apartment in London, near Hyde Park. Officials who had dealt with him cautioned that, along with his many faults, he had a disarmingly open manner. At the beginning of our talk, I asked him why, on a visit to Washington in late January, he had not met with any senior Obama Administration officials. โ€œI did not ask for a meeting because I was afraid of being told no,โ€ he said. At another point, Musharraf, dressed casually in slacks and a sports shirt, said that he had been troubled by the American-controlled Predator drone attacks on targets inside Pakistan, which began in 2005. โ€œI said to the Americans, โ€˜Give us the Predators.โ€™ It was refused. I told the Americans, โ€˜Then just say publicly that youโ€™re giving them to us. You keep on firing them but put Pakistan Air Force markings on them.โ€™ That, too, was denied.โ€

Musharraf, who was forced out of office in August, 2008, under threat of impeachment, did not spare his successor. โ€œAsif Zardari is a criminal and a fraud,โ€ Musharraf told me. โ€œHeโ€™ll do anything to save himself. Heโ€™s not a patriot and heโ€™s got no love for Pakistan. Heโ€™s a third-rater.โ€

Musharraf said that he and General Kayani, who had been his nominee for Chief of Army Staff, were still in telephone contact. Musharraf came to power in a military coup in 1999, and remained in uniform until near the end of his Presidency. He said that he didnโ€™t think the Army was capable of mutinyโ€”not the Army he knew. โ€œThere are people with fundamentalist ideas in the Army, but I donโ€™t think there is any possibility of these people getting organized and doing an uprising. These โ€˜fundosโ€™ were disliked and not popular.โ€

He added, โ€œMuslims think highly of Obama, and he should use his acceptabilityโ€”even with the Talibanโ€”and try to deal with them politically.โ€

Musharraf spoke of two prior attempts to create a fundamentalist uprising in the Army. In both cases, he said, the officers involved were arrested and prosecuted. โ€œI created the strategic force that controls all the strategic assetsโ€”eighteen to twenty thousand strong. They are monitored for character and for potential fundamentalism,โ€ he said. He acknowledged, however, that things had changed since heโ€™d left office. โ€œPeople have become alarmed because of the Taliban and what they have done,โ€ he said. โ€œEveryone is now alarmed.โ€

he rise in militancy is a sensitive subject, and many inside Pakistan insist that American fears, and the implied threat to the nuclear arsenal, are overwrought. Amรฉlie Blom, a political sociologist at Lahore University of Management Sciences, noted that the Army continues to support an unpopular President. โ€œThe survival of the coalition government shows that the present Army leadership has an interest in making it work,โ€ she said in an e-mail.

Others are less sure. โ€œNuclear weapons are only as safe as the people who handle them,โ€ Pervez Hoodbhoy, an eminent nuclear physicist in Pakistan, said in a talk last summer at a Nation and Lawyers Committee on Nuclear Policy forum in New York. For more than two decades, Hoodbhoy said, โ€œthe Pakistan Army has been recruiting on the basis of faithfulness to Islam. As a consequence, there is now a different character present among Army officers and ordinary soldiers. There are half a dozen scenarios that one can imagine.โ€ There was no proof either that the most dire scenarios would be realized or that the arsenal was safe, he said.

The current offensive in South Waziristan marked a significant success for the Obama Administration, which had urged Zardari to take greater control of the tribal areas. There was a risk, tooโ€”that the fighting would further radicalize Pakistan. Last week, another Pakistan Army general was the victim of a drive-by assassination attempt, as he was leaving his home in Islamabad. Since the Waziristan operation was announced, more than three hundred people have been killed in a dozen terrorist attacks. โ€œIf we push too hard there, we could trigger a social revolution,โ€ the Special Forces adviser said. โ€œWe are playing into Al Qaedaโ€™s deep game here. If we blow it, Al Qaeda could come in and scoop up a nuke or two.โ€ He added, โ€œThe Pakistani military knows that if thereโ€™s any kind of instability there will be a traffic jam to seize their nukes.โ€ More escalation in Pakistan, he said, โ€œwill take us to the brink.โ€

During my stay in Pakistanโ€”my first in five yearsโ€”there were undeniable signs that militancy and the influence of fundamentalist Islam had grown. In the past, military officers, politicians, and journalists routinely served Johnnie Walker Black during our talks, and drank it themselves. This time, even the most senior retired Army generals offered only juice or tea, even in their own homes. Officials and journalists said that soldiers and middle-level officers were increasingly attracted to the preaching of Zaid Hamid, who joined the mujahideen and fought for nine years in Afghanistan. On CDs and on television, Hamid exhorts soldiers to think of themselves as Muslims first and Pakistanis second. He claims that terrorist attacks in Mumbai last year were staged by India and Western Zionists, aided by the Mossad. Another proselytizer, Dr. Israr Ahmed, writes a column in the Urdu press in which he depicts the Holocaust as โ€œdivine punishment,โ€ and advocates the extermination of the Jews. He, too, is said to be popular with the officer corps.

A senior Obama Administration official brought up Hizb ut-Tahrir, a Sunni organization whose goal is to establish the Caliphate. โ€œTheyโ€™ve penetrated the Pakistani military and now have cells in the Army,โ€ he said. (The Pakistan Army denies this.) In one case, according to the official, Hizb ut-Tahrir had recruited members of a junior officer group, from the most รฉlite Pakistani military academy, who had been sent to England for additional training.

โ€œWhere do these guys get socialized and exposed to Islamic evangelism and the fundamentalism narrative?โ€ the Obama Administration official asked. โ€œIn services every Friday for Army officers, and at corps and unit meetings where they are addressed by senior commanders and clerics.โ€ โ™ฆ


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Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:42 am
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MINORITY STAFF REPORT[โ€ฆ.US Senate]

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PERMANENT SUBCOMMITTEE ON INVESTIGATIONS
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PRIVATE BANKING AND MONEY LAUNDERING:
A CASE STUDY OF OPPORTUNITIES AND VULNERABILITIES
November 9, 1999

 Asif Ali Zardari Case History {โ€ฆ.at Citi Bank....}

The Facts

The second case history involves Asif Ali Zardari, the husband of Benazir Bhutto, former Prime Minister of Pakistan. Ms. Bhutto was elected Prime Minister in 1988, dismissed by the President of Pakistan in August 1990 for alleged corruption and inability to maintain law and order, elected Prime Minister again in October 1993, and dismissed by the President again in November 1996. At various times, Mr. Zardari served as Senator, Environment Minister and Minister for Investment in the Bhutto government. Inbetween the two Bhutto administrations, he was incarcerated in 1990 and 1991 on charges of corruption; the charges were eventually dropped. During Ms. Bhutto's second term there were increasing allegations of corruption in her government, and a major target of those allegations was Mr. Zardari. It has been reported that the government of Pakistan claims that Ms. Bhutto and Mr. Zardari stole over $1 billion from the country.

During the period 1994 to1997, Citibank opened and maintained three private bank accounts in Switzerland and a consumer account in Dubai for three corporations under Mr. Zardari's control. There are allegations that some of these accounts were used to disguise $10 million in kickbacks for a gold importing contract to Pakistan.

Structure of Private Bank Relationship. Mr. Zardari's relationship with Citibank began in October 1994, through the services of Kamran Amouzegar, a private banker at Citibank private bank in Switzerland, and Jens Schlegelmilch, a Swiss lawyer who was the Bhutto family's attorney in Europe and close personal friend for more than 20 years. According to Citibank, Mr. Schlegelmilch represented to Mr. Amouzegar that he was working for the Dubai royal family and he wanted to open some accounts at the Citibank branch office in Dubai. Mr. Schlegelmilch had a Dubai residency permit and a visa signed by a member of the Dubai royal family. Mr. Amouzegar agreed to introduce Mr. Schlegelmilch to a banker in the Citibank branch office in Dubai.

According to Citicorp, Mr. Schlegelmilch told the Citibank Dubai banker that he wanted to open an account in the name of M.S. Capricorn Trading, a British Virgin Island PIC. The stated purpose of the account was to receive money and transfer it to Switzerland. The account was opened in early October 1994.

According to Citibank, Mr. Schlegelmilch informed the Dubai banker that he would serve as the representative of the account and the signatory on the account. Under Dubai law, a bank is not required to know an account's beneficial owner, only the signatory. Citibank told the Subcommittee staff that Mr. Schlegelmilch did not reveal to the Dubai banker that Mr. Zardari was the beneficial owner of the PIC, and the account manager never asked him the identity of the beneficial owner of the account. Instead, according to Citibank, she assumed the beneficial owner of the account was the member of the royal family who had signed Mr. Schlegelmilch 's visa. According to Citibank, the account manager actually performed some due diligence on the royal family member whom she believed to be the beneficial owner of the account.

Shortly after opening the account in Dubai, Mr. Schlegelmilch signed a standard referral agreement with Citibank Switzerland private bank guaranteeing him 20% of the first three years of client net revenues earned by the bank from each client he referred to the private bank .

On February 27, 1995, Mr. Schlegelmilch, working with Mr. Amouzegar, opened three accounts at the Citibank Switzerland private bank. The accounts were opened in the name of M.S. Capricorn Trading, which already had an account at Citibank's Dubai branch, as well as Marvel and Bomer Finance, two other British Virgin Island PICs established by Mr. Schlegelmilch, according to Citibank. Each private bank account listed Mr. Schlegelmilch as the account contact and signatory.

 

Citibank informed the Subcommittee that the Swiss Form A, a government-required beneficial owner identification form, identified Mr. Zardari as the beneficial owner of each PIC.

 

Lack of Due Diligence. The decision to allow Mr. Schlegelmilch to open the three accounts on behalf of Mr. Zardari, according to Citibank, involved officials at the highest levels of the private bank. The officials were: (a) Mr. Amouzegar, the private banker; (b) Deepak Sharma, then head of private bank operations in Pakistan; (c) Phillipe Holderbeke, then head of private bank operations in Switzerland (who became head of the Europe, Middle East, Africa Division in February 1996); (d) Salim Raza, then head of the EMEA Division of the private bank; and (e) Hubertus Rukavina, then head of the Citibank private bank. Mr. Rukavina told the Subcommittee staff that when he was asked about opening the Zardari accounts, he did not make the decision to open them, but rather directed that the matter be discussed with Mr. Sharma. According to Mr. Rukavina, he never heard whether the accounts were ultimately opened. Mr. Rukavina left the private bank in 1996 and left Citibank in 1999.

Citibank informed the Subcommittee staff that the private bank was aware of the allegations of corruption against Mr. Zardari at the time it opened the accounts in Switzerland. However, Citibank reasoned that if the charges for which Mr. Zardari had been incarcerated for two years had any merit, they would not have been dropped. Bank officials also believed that the family wealth of Ms. Bhutto and Mr. Zardari was large enough to support a large private bank account, even though Citibank was not able to specify what actions were taken to verify the amount and source of their wealth. Citibank said that bank officials were also aware of the M.S. Capricorn Trading account in Dubai, and they were comforted by the fact that there had been no problems with that account. According to Citibank, Mr. Amouzegar informed his superiors that Mr. Zardari was the beneficial owner of the Capricorn account in Dubai when they were considering the request to open the accounts in Switzerland. Inexplicably, however, the Dubai account manager was apparently still operating under the assumption that the beneficial owner of the Dubai Capricorn account was a member of the Dubai royal family. Subcommittee staff have been unable to determine whether Citibank officials were unaware of or inattentive to the serious inconsistency between Citibank Switzerland and Citibank Dubai with respect to the Capricorn Trading account. Citibank also informed the Subcommittee staff that bank officials had some concerns that if they turned down the accounts, their actions may have implications for the corporation's operations in Pakistan; however, they said they never received any threats on that issue.

Citibank told the Subcommittee staff the private bank decided to allow Mr. Schlegelmilch to open the three accounts for Mr. Zardari on the condition that the private bank would not be the primary accounts for Mr. Zardari's assets and the accounts would function as passive investment accounts. Citibank told the Subcommittee staff that Mr. Holderbeke signed a memo delineating the restrictions placed on the accounts, including a $40 million aggregate limit on the size of the three accounts, and transaction restrictions requiring the accounts to function as passive, stable investments, without multiple transactions or funding pass-throughs. None of the Citibank personnel interviewed by Subcommittee staff could identify any other private bank account with these types of restrictions. Other private banks interviewed by the Subcommittee staff were asked if they had ever accepted a client on the condition that certain restrictions be imposed on the account. The banks all said they had not. One bank representative explained that if the bank felt that it needed to place restrictions on the client's account, it didn't want that type of client. The existence of the restrictions are in themselves proof of the private bank's awareness of Mr. Zardari's poor reputation and concerns regarding the sources of his wealth.

Movement of Funds. Citibank told the Subcommittee staff that, once opened, only three deposits were made into the M.S. Capricorn Trading account in Dubai. Two deposits, totaling $10 million were made into the account almost immediately after it was opened.

 

Citibank records show that one $5 million deposit was made on October 5,1994, and another was made on October 6, 1994. The source of both deposits was A.R.Y. International Exchange, a company owned by Abdul Razzak Yaqub[โ€ฆARYโ€ฆ], a Pakistani gold bullion trader living in Dubai.

 

According to the New York Times, in December 1994, the Bhutto government awarded Mr. Razzak an exclusive gold import license. In an interview with the New York Times, Mr. Razzak acknowledged that he had used the exclusive license to import more than $500 million worth of gold into Pakistan. Mr. Razzak denies, however, making any payments to Mr. Zardari. Citibank could not explain the two $5 million payments. Ms. Bhutto told the Subcommittee staff that since A.R.Y. International Exchange is a foreign exchange business, the payments did not necessarily come from Mr. Razzak, but could have come from a third party who was merely making use of A.R.Y.'s exchange services. The staff invited Ms. Bhutto to provide additional information on the M.S. Capricorn Trading accounts, but she has not yet done so.

 

On February 25, 1995, a third deposit of $8 million was made into the Dubai M.S. Capricorn Trading account. Records show that the payment was made through American Express, with the originator of the account listed as "Morgan NYC." Citibank indicated it does not know who Morgan NYC is, nor does it know the source of the $8 million.

 

All of the funds in the Dubai account of M.S. Capricorn Trading were moved to the Swiss accounts in the Spring of 1995. On March 6, 1995, $8.1 million was transferred; and on May 5, 1995, another $10.2 million was transferred. Both transfers involved U.S. dollars and were routed through Citibank's New York offices.

 

Citibank informed the Subcommittee staff that M.S. Capricorn Trading closed its Dubai account shortly after the last transfer was completed.

Citibank has indicated that significant amounts of other funds were also deposited into the Swiss accounts. As described below, the $40 million cap was reached, and millions of additional dollars also passed through those accounts. However, Swiss bank secrecy law has prevented the Subcommittee from obtaining the details on the transactions in the Zardari accounts.

Account Monitoring. Citibank told the Subcommittee staff that, in 1996, the Swiss office of the private bank conducted a number of reviews of the Zardari Swiss accounts, finally deciding in October to close them.

The first review was allegedly in early 1996, triggered by increasing publicity about allegations of corruption against Mr. Zardari. Citibank told the Subcommittee staff that Messrs. Holderbeke, Raza, Sharma and Amouzegar participated in the review, and apparently concluded that the allegations were politically motivated and that the accounts should remain open. The Subcommittee staff was told that the review did not include looking at the accounts' transaction activity.

In March or April, 1996, Mr. Amouzegar asked that the overall limit on the Zardari accounts be increased from $40 million to $60 million,

 

apparently because the accounts had reached the previously imposed limit of $40 million. Citibank told the Subcommittee staff that Mr. Holderbeke considered the request, but declined to increase the $40 million limit.

In June, press reports in the United Kingdom that Mr. Zardari had purchased real estate in London triggered still another review of the Zardari accounts. Citibank private bank told the Subcommittee staff that its Swiss office internally discussed the source of the funds for the property purchase. Mr. Amouzegar and Mr. Raza then met with Mr. Schlegelmilch, who allegedly informed them that funds had been deposited into the Citibank accounts, transferred to another PIC account outside of Citibank and used to purchase the property. Mr. Schlegelmilch allegedly indicated the funds had come from the sale of some sugar mills and were legitimate. Citibank told the Subcommittee staff it is not sure if anyone at the private bank attempted to validate the information about the sale of the sugar mills. In addition, even though this account activity violated the condition imposed by Citibank that the accounts were not to be used as a pass through for funds, the accounts were kept open.

Closing the Accounts. In July 1996, after Mr. Amouzegar left the private bank to open his own company, another private banker, Cedric Grant, took over management of the Zardari accounts. Citibank told the Subcommittee staff that Mr. Grant began to review the Zardari accounts about one month later to familiarize himself with them. He also reviewed the transactions that had taken place within the accounts.

In September and October 1996, press accounts in Pakistan repeatedly raised questions about corruption by Mr. Zardari and Ms. Bhutto, as Ms. Bhutto's re-election campaign increased its activities prior to a February election date. In September, Ms. Bhutto's only surviving brother, Murtaza Bhutto, was assassinated, and Ms. Bhutto's mother accused Ms. Bhutto and Mr. Zardari of masterminding the murder, because the brother had been leading opposition to Ms. Bhutto.

In October, Mr. Grant completed his review of the Zardari accounts and provided a written analysis to Messrs. Holderbeke, Sharma and Raza, according to Citibank. Mr. Grant had found numerous violations of the account restrictions imposed by Citibank, including multiple transactions and funding pass-throughs. Citibank told the Subcommittee staff that the accounts had functioned more as checking accounts than passive investment accounts, directly contrary to the private bank's restrictions. Apparently, well over $40 million had flowed through the accounts, though Subcommittee staff were unable to ascertain the actual amount because Swiss bank secrecy law prohibits Citibank from sharing that information with the Subcommittee. Citibank indicated that Mr. Amouzegar had either ignored or did not pay attention to the account activity. Mr. Grant recommended closing the accounts, and they were closed by January 1997.

Legal Proceedings. On September 8, 1997, the Swiss government issued orders freezing the Zardari and Bhutto accounts at Citibank and three other banks in Switzerland at the request of the Pakistani government. Since Citibank had closed its Zardari accounts in January 1997, it took no action nor did it make any effort to inform U.S. authorities of the accounts until late November 1997. Citibank contacted the Federal Reserve and OCC about the Zardari accounts in late November, in anticipation of a New York Times article that eventually ran in January 1998, alleging that Mr. Zardari had accepted bribes, and that he held Citibank accounts in Dubai and Switzerland. On December 8 and 11, 1997, Citibank briefed the OCC and the Federal Reserve, respectively, about the accounts and the steps it had taken as a result of the Zardari matter. These steps included: closing all of the accounts that had been referred by Mr. Schlegelmilch to the private bank and terminating his referral agreement; reviewing all of the accounts opened in the Dubai office; and tightening up account opening procedures in Dubai, including requiring the Dubai office to identify the beneficial owner of all Dubai accounts. Citibank did not identify any changes made or planned for the Swiss office, even though the majority of the activity with respect to the Zardari accounts had taken place in Switzerland.

 

On December 5, 1997, Citibank prepared a Suspicious Activity Report on the Zardari accounts and filed it with the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network at the U.S. Department of Treasury.

 

The filing was made fourteen months after its decision to close the Zardari accounts; thirteen months after Mr. Zardari was arrested a second time for corruption in November 1996; and nearly two months after the Swiss government had ordered four Swiss banks (including Citibank Switzerland) to freeze all Zardari accounts.

In June 1998, Switzerland indicted Mr. Schlegelmilch and two Swiss businessmen, the former senior executive vice president of SGS and the managing director of Cotecna, for money laundering in connection with kickbacks paid by the Swiss companies for the award of a government contract by Pakistan. In July 1998, Mr. Zardari was indicted for violation of Swiss money laundering law in connection with the same incident. Ms. Bhutto was indicted in Switzerland for the same offense in August 1998. A trial on the charges is expected.

In October 1998, Pakistan indicted Mr. Zardari and Ms. Bhutto for accepting kickbacks from the two Swiss companies in exchange for the award of a government contract.

 

On April 15, 1999, after an 18-month trial, Pakistan's Lahore High Court convicted Ms. Bhutto and Mr. Zardari of accepting the kickbacks and sentenced them to 5 years in prison, fined them $8.6 million and disqualified them from holding public office. Ms. Bhutto, who now lives in London, denounced the decision. Mr. Zardari remains in jail. Additional criminal charges are pending against both in Pakistani courts.

 

On December 11, 1997, Citicorp's Chairman John Reed wrote the following to the Board of Directors:

"We have another issue with the husband of Ex-Prime Minister Bhutto of Pakistan. I do not yet understand the facts but I am inclined to think that we made a mistake. More reason than ever to rework our Private Bank."

Mr. Reed told the Subcommittee staff that it was the combination of the Salinas and Zardari accounts that made him charge Mr. Aziz, the new private bank head, with taking a hard look at the bank's public figure policy and public figure accounts.

The Issues

The Zardari case history raises issues involving due diligence, secrecy and public figure accounts. The Zardari case history begins with the Citibank Dubai branch's failure to identify the true beneficial owner of the M.S. Capricorn Trading account. As a result, the account officer in Dubai performed due diligence on an individual who had no relationship to the account being opened. In Switzerland, Citibank officials opened three private bank accounts despite evidence of impropriety on the part of Mr. Zardari. In an interview with Subcommittee staff, Citigroup Co- Chair John Reed informed the Subcommittee staff

 

that he had been advised by Citibank officials in preparation for a trip to Pakistan in February 1994, that there were troubling accusations concerning corruption surrounding Mr. Zardari, that he should stay away from him, and that he was not a man with whom the bank wanted to be associated.

 

Yet one year later, the private bank opened three accounts for Mr. Zardari in Switzerland. Mr. Reed told the Subcommittee staff that when he learned of the Zardari accounts he thought the account officer must have been "an idiot."

Citibank has been unable to confirm that bank employees verified that Mr. Zardari had a level of wealth sufficient to support the size of the accounts that he was opening. In addition, the Swiss private banker took no action to validate the legitimacy of the source of the funds that were deposited into the account. For example, there was no effort made to verify the claims that some of the funds derived from the sale of sugar mills.

Citibank also performed no due diligence on the client owned and managed PICs that were the named accountholders. Because the PICs were client-created, the bank's failure to perform due diligence on the PICs meant that it had no knowledge of the activities, assets or entities involved with the corporations. One of the PICs, Bomer Finance, has been determined to have been a repository for kickbacks paid to Mr. Zardari, and those kickbacks tainted funds deposited at the Geneva branch of Union Bank of Switzerland. Documentation has not been made available to determine whether Bomer Finance also used its Citibank account for illicit funds.

Another due diligence lapse was the private bank's failure to monitor the Zardari accounts to ensure that the account restrictions imposed on them were being followed. When officials were presented with evidence in 1996 that the restrictions were being violated, they nevertheless allowed the accounts to continue.

The Zardari accounts in Switzerland were opened one day before Raul Salinas was arrested. The account was repeatedly reviewed in 1996, after the Salinas scandal became public. Yet there is no evidence that anyone in the private bank had been sensitized to the problems associated with handling an account of a person suspected of corruption.

The Zardari example also demonstrates the practical consequences of secrecy in private banking. Citibank claims that its decisionmaking in the Zardari matter cannot be fully explained or documented, since all Citibank officials are subject to Swiss secrecy laws prohibiting discussion of client-specific information. In light of the fact that U.S. banks are supposed to oversee their foreign branches and enforce U.S. law, including anti-money laundering requirements, this inability to produce documentation related to a troubling case again highlights the problems with U.S. banks choosing to operate in secrecy jurisdictions.

Pattern of Poor Account Management. The Zardari case history took place during a series of critical internal and federal audits between 1992 and 1997 of the Swiss office which, during most of that time, served as the headquarters of the private bank.

 
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Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:25 am
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Hats off to Dr. Aftab Maroof and members of "The Guild" who organized the first Alumni Homecoming in Islamabad Campus. 
Good show... and best of luck.

Regards,
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Dear members,

We have received an overwhelming response from different batches for the participation in the scheduled Homecoming '09 at 1930hrs on Friday, 20-Nov-09. We hope to see all of the confirmed participants at the event.

Please note that we'll be communicating the final number of participants to FAST administration by 1200hrs on 19-Nov-09. Anyone who wants to attend is requested to please confirm his/her participation by 1130hrs on 19-Nov09. Unfortunately, we'll not be able to entertain confirmations after 1130hrs. It is important to communicate a final and solid number to FAST administration for the proper arrangements to be done for the event. 

There are few important points which we'd like you to inform about.

1. Please keep your Original CNIC with you as that will be required for the entry into the campus.

2. Please note that the start time of the event is 07.30pm (NOT 08.00pm)

3. You'd need to register yourself at the Registration Desk before the start of the event. 

4. In case of any issue faced during entry into FAST-NU Islamabad campus on Friday, 20-Nov-09 for the event, please call any of the following numbers and request for help:
      - Aijaz Zia (0300-8555810)
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Kindly forward this email to your fellows and mailing lists.

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I feel indebted to write on the subject mentioned, first Home coming event held at Fast-NU Islamabad. I did not get a chance to thank the people who put in their untiring efforts to make this a happening event. This big success I would call it, in regrouping and rejoining all the Alumnae with the Fast family in a sociable environment is highly commendable and I appreciate the efforts put in by the administration and management of FAST and the Alumnae Association. We hope to see such events on a frequency note sir and ensure our full support in regard. Thank you and hats off!!  I feel fortunate to be the first one to pay my gratitude.


Sohaib Tariq

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#5016 From: umar Iftikhar <calvinus_oj@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:43 am
Subject: Re: offtopic ====Audio link-- who is zaid hamid (listen to audio)
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Aoa

I hope everyone is well.
For people who want to get to the bottom of zaid hamid controversy, these videos/audios and the blasphemy case why not contact zaid hamid himself. He has his office in House No. 777A, Opp. Askari Apartments, Chaklala scheme 3 Rawalpindi

Contact No. 051-5598046,
Mobile No. 0321-5181350

Rather then arguing amongst ourselves, perhaps asking the source will help clear any confusion on this issue.

Regards,
Umar iftikhar
Batch of 2000 Isb


--- On Fri, 11/20/09, tahir khan <tahirkhan122000@...> wrote:

From: tahir khan <tahirkhan122000@...>
Subject: [FutureFAST] offtopic ====Audio link-- who is zaid hamid (listen to audio)
To: futurefast@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 5:19 AM

 

This is my last post regarding the matter. I still watch his program but the tape is authentic as it was presented as evidence in the blasphemy case in court against yousaf kazzab. Yousaf's  group's modus operandi was to get well educated people. 

evidence not documented :
 A friend of mine called his representative asking about Yousaf and his reply was somewhat like do not say anything wrong about him (Yousaf). For me that further increased my doubts and i trust my friend not that I want you to believe in it.


tahir



#5015 From: tahir khan <tahirkhan122000@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:19 am
Subject: offtopic ====Audio link-- who is zaid hamid (listen to audio)
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This is my last post regarding the matter. I still watch his program but the tape is authentic as it was presented as evidence in the blasphemy case in court against yousaf kazzab. Yousaf's  group's modus operandi was to get well educated people. 

evidence not documented :
 A friend of mine called his representative asking about Yousaf and his reply was somewhat like do not say anything wrong about him (Yousaf). For me that further increased my doubts and i trust my friend not that I want you to believe in it.


tahir


#5014 From: Abdul Hye <abdulhye@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:39 pm
Subject: Re: [Offtopic] Re: Audio link-- who is zaid hamid (listen to audio)
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i just cannot believe that things like this am getting it from educated people

what's the criteria of the research. 
if i go , make a video, type down something, will ya all be following me ? 

What's the authenticity of the proofs. Making video of the text is totally rubbish ! 

Believe me; for the people who are supporting such videos, do not involve yourself in Research because you don't have the mindset for that. 
I'll paste down the 3rd reply to this video that would be sufficient enough for everyone to think before forwarding links without researching or digging out the facts. 

respectfully sir, first thing is i am not a fan of zaid hamid, secondly what is the source of material shown in the above video?and what is its authencity?, anyone can make such a video, it doesnt means it is correct, if u make such a video abt anyone it doesnt mean all the things in it is correct until it is authenticated from different sources,thirdly if u make some supposition abt a person than u shud listen both sides, so go to www.pakistanfirst.com and their is an interview of zaid hamid in which he answered this specific question. i listened alot of programs of zaid hamid and he never said any wrong thing about islam, HAZRAT MUHAMMAD(SAW) or sahaba, and whatever he said was according to teachings of islam, i had never listened any word that was not correct or it was against islam..he always respected Prophet (SAW) and quotes different ahadees. so respectfully sir kindly do some research before spreading things like these


It's gunah-e- Kabeera  to allege someone like that, please be very careful before spreading bad name for someone because Allah won't forgive that. 

Regards


On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Roofi <paragonian_pucit@...> wrote:
 

No Doubt, Zahid Hamid was involved in this controversy.

you can visit one video link, I have put on face book.

This shows a page of a book published by MOARAF Publishers, which is famous publisher to work for Khatam-e Nabwat. 

Abdul Rauf
PhD Scholar (Computer Science)

--- On Wed, 18/11/09, MIK <mi7862002@...> wrote:

From: MIK <mi7862002@...>

Subject: Re: [FutureFAST] Audio link-- who is zaid hamid (listen to audio)
To: FutureFAST@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 7:38 PM

 

AoA,

But the audio did not deny his involvement with this issue in the past. He says he is not currently associated with anything of such kind.
 

Best regards,

Muhammad Ishtiaq
07-Batch, MS (CS)




From: Saba Tehseen <stehseenpk@yahoo. com>
To: FutureFAST@yahoogro ups.com

Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 13:35:06
Subject: Re: [FutureFAST] Audio link-- who is zaid hamid (listen to audio)

 

Zaid Hamids clarification on the issue
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=RBG7lpYGLcE

--- On Mon, 11/16/09, tahir khan <tahirkhan122000@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: tahir khan <tahirkhan122000@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [FutureFAST] Audio link-- who is zaid hamid (listen to audio)
To: futurefast@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 10:30 AM

 
Dear Abdul Hye Fahad(your batch is missing)


I never said that he was a hypocrite but forwarded the link about him, and left the judgement the receipients. Personally I was a big fan of zaid's till i got hold of this link which has created doubts in my mind . Yousaf kazzab was convicted of being a false prophet .Listen to the tape at yousaf kazzab' s gathering where kazzab claims to be a prophet and introduces a young man named zaid as a 'sahabi'. Listen to zaid's voice  (same audio) at 6:32(10:26):
or
 
and make out. His voice and style is too similiar to the zaid hamid of brass stacks. And he has always refused to answer whether he was ever associated with yousaf.
 
tahir(batch- 02)
 
 
--- On Sun, 11/15/09, Abdul Hye <abdulhye@gmail. com> wrote:

From: Abdul Hye <abdulhye@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [FutureFAST] who is zaid hamid
To: FutureFAST@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 4:41 AM

 
before forwarding, these all are allegations without a single proof. please provide with documented video or photo evidence.
We just cannot trust the word of mouth and call someone a hypocrite like that

regards

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 1:44 AM, tahir khan <tahirkhan122000@ yahoo.com> wrote:
 

UET has already banned him because of his past associations.
http://teeth. com.pk/blog/ 2008/10/07/ who-is-zaid- zaman-hamid




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