Hi David - we have some Agresti in our family also - from Itri and surrounding
area - they are actually the family of a nephew's wife but I have quite of few
of them in our tree. Contact me if you wish - if you can send any names with
dates, I can tell you if familiar or not - there are still many Agresti living
there!
Bonnie (valentinoswife)
http://valentinoswife.wordpress.com

--- In FraDiavolo@yahoogroups.com, "djasail" <ezoffices@...> wrote:
>
> Looking to trace the Agresti surname back to Itri or Fondi, Italy.  My father
and I were both born in the United States; however, we've traced our family
heritage back many years to these two cities.
>
> Please let me know if you are an "Agresti" and have an family tree that we can
compare.
>
> Thanks,
> David Agresti, Los Angeles, CA United States.
>

Hi Bonnie~

There probably is a relation, but I have no idea what it is!  :-)

All I know of this leg of my family is the Giovanina (Jennie) DeSimone married
Anthony Paparelli and they had 3 children in Italy. Their oldest daughter,
Maria/Mary was my Great-Grandmother. They came to the US in 1911 and had a bunch
more children here.

On her Ellis Island record, Jennie listed her brother Raffielli (sp?) as her
closest relative in Italy.  I'm just beginning to dig deeper into my Itri
roots...I've concentrated on the Sicilian part of my heritage until recently.

--- In FraDiavolo@yahoogroups.com, "bonval" <BonVal@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Stephanie -
> I have a lot of information on Itri - my husband is a DiCrocco from there - we
have a nephew who is a DeSimone of Itri - his family own the pizza place across
from the commune (city hall). Any relation? Be happy to compare notes if you
want!
> Bonnie (valentinoswife)
> http://valentinoswife.wordpress.com
>
> --- In FraDiavolo@yahoogroups.com, "S" <sxp215@> wrote:
> >
> > I feel like an idiot, but it's 1:00 in the morning and I've been trapped
inside from a snowstorm all week.  So please forgive me.  How do you search
these posts?  I've been doing some research on my Great-Great-Grandmother
Giovanina DeSimone who was born in Itri and lived most of her life in Erie, PA. 
When I try to search posts for mentions of "DeSimone" I get no results, even
though I can clearly see that the most recent post was from someone names
DeSimone. What am I doing wrong?  Also, is there a way to look at the posts I've
made to this group in the past?  I tried clicking on my username, but it just
took me to some pseudo-facebook page.  Grr.
> >
> > Thanks for your help!  Maybe this will all make more sense in the morning.
> >
> > Stephanie
> >
>

INteresting - we had a Paparello married into the family back in 1784! That was
also in Itri - be happy to see if we can find a connection on the Agresti
branch! We will have to work on names and dates to see - do you have a tree on
Heritage or Ancestry?
Bonnie

--- In FraDiavolo@yahoogroups.com, "S" <sxp215@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Bonnie~
>
> There probably is a relation, but I have no idea what it is!  :-)
>
> All I know of this leg of my family is the Giovanina (Jennie) DeSimone married
Anthony Paparelli and they had 3 children in Italy. Their oldest daughter,
Maria/Mary was my Great-Grandmother. They came to the US in 1911 and had a bunch
more children here.
>
> On her Ellis Island record, Jennie listed her brother Raffielli (sp?) as her
closest relative in Italy.  I'm just beginning to dig deeper into my Itri
roots...I've concentrated on the Sicilian part of my heritage until recently.
>
> --- In FraDiavolo@yahoogroups.com, "bonval" <BonVal@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Stephanie -
> > I have a lot of information on Itri - my husband is a DiCrocco from there -
we have a nephew who is a DeSimone of Itri - his family own the pizza place
across from the commune (city hall). Any relation? Be happy to compare notes if
you want!
> > Bonnie (valentinoswife)
> > http://valentinoswife.wordpress.com
> >
> > --- In FraDiavolo@yahoogroups.com, "S" <sxp215@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I feel like an idiot, but it's 1:00 in the morning and I've been trapped
inside from a snowstorm all week.  So please forgive me.  How do you search
these posts?  I've been doing some research on my Great-Great-Grandmother
Giovanina DeSimone who was born in Itri and lived most of her life in Erie, PA. 
When I try to search posts for mentions of "DeSimone" I get no results, even
though I can clearly see that the most recent post was from someone names
DeSimone. What am I doing wrong?  Also, is there a way to look at the posts I've
made to this group in the past?  I tried clicking on my username, but it just
took me to some pseudo-facebook page.  Grr.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help!  Maybe this will all make more sense in the morning.
> > >
> > > Stephanie
> > >
> >
>

Hi Maureen,

I grew up in Knightsville on St Mary's Drive which is a block from St Mary's &
St Anne's church as well as St Mary's cemetary.

I knew and still know a Joseph DeSimone who is a little older than me and is now
around 65-67 years old.  He still lives in Cranston just west of knightsville.

If you have any other information I will try to contact him to see if he knows
or is related to the person your are inquiring about.

Lou Saccoccio


--- In FraDiavolo@yahoogroups.com, Maureen Perry <bella02920@...> wrote:
>
> Hello
>  
> I am looking for a family named, DeSimone, from Itri.  The husband is named,
Giuseppe, he is around the age of  66/67.  He has 2 daughters and a son. 
Also, a wife who is still alive, I belive.  Back in the 70's they lived in the
city of Cranston, but moved back to Itri around the late 70's.  Any idea's?
>  
> thank you,
>  
> Maureen
>
> --- On Thu, 2/11/10, S <sxp215@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: S <sxp215@...>
> Subject: [FraDiavolo] Re: Searching
> To: FraDiavolo@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 6:43 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Hi Bonnie~
>
> There probably is a relation, but I have no idea what it is! :-)
>
> All I know of this leg of my family is the Giovanina (Jennie) DeSimone married
Anthony Paparelli and they had 3 children in Italy. Their oldest daughter,
Maria/Mary was my Great-Grandmother. They came to the US in 1911 and had a bunch
more children here.
>
> On her Ellis Island record, Jennie listed her brother Raffielli (sp?) as her
closest relative in Italy. I'm just beginning to dig deeper into my Itri
roots...I've concentrated on the Sicilian part of my heritage until recently.
>
> --- In FraDiavolo@yahoogro ups.com, "bonval" <BonVal@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Stephanie -
> > I have a lot of information on Itri - my husband is a DiCrocco from there -
we have a nephew who is a DeSimone of Itri - his family own the pizza place
across from the commune (city hall). Any relation? Be happy to compare notes if
you want!
> > Bonnie (valentinoswife)
> > http://valentinoswi fe.wordpress. com
> >
> > --- In FraDiavolo@yahoogro ups.com, "S" <sxp215@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I feel like an idiot, but it's 1:00 in the morning and I've been trapped
inside from a snowstorm all week. So please forgive me. How do you search these
posts? I've been doing some research on my Great-Great- Grandmother Giovanina
DeSimone who was born in Itri and lived most of her life in Erie, PA. When I try
to search posts for mentions of "DeSimone" I get no results, even though I can
clearly see that the most recent post was from someone names DeSimone. What am I
doing wrong? Also, is there a way to look at the posts I've made to this group
in the past? I tried clicking on my username, but it just took me to some
pseudo-facebook page. Grr.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help! Maybe this will all make more sense in the morning.
> > >
> > > Stephanie
> > >
> >
>

Hi
I am Vince Sandrone - I started and moderate the Fra Diavolo group. I have not
been actively posting but I keep the group going in the background by approving
new members/messages etc.

The most common issue is when members forward a message to every-one in their
email list including the Fra Diavolo group accidently.

Please be careful when you forward email to your friends not to include the Fra
Diavolo group unless it relates to the topics in the group.

I try to keep the group relevant- I review all posts by new members until it is
clear that they are not fakes set up to spam the group. I usually delete 5 spam
a week - penis enlargement and Nigerian financial transactions may be of
interest to some but it is not related to the purpose of the group :-)

After a while I stop reviewing post from members and their post do not get
reviewed by me. People are then responsible for their own actions.



Vince Sandrone
vince_sandrone@...

Maria Elena, Maureen & Jerry,

Maria Elena,

I grew up with a Saccoccio family whose oldest brother was called "Jacksie" his
actual name is like mine - Louis Saccoccio.  Unfortunately, the Saccoccio's
named all their kids with the same or similar names.  Jacksie is now in his
upper 60s, like 67-69 years of age.  In his younger days, he was a Cranston
fireman.  His brothers are Alex and Carl who is now the state of RI building
inspector.  We grew up playing hockey on Randall Pond.  Their sister, Carol,
recently had a stroke.  My nephew is now renting an apartment in the family
homestead in knightsville.

Maureen,

My younger brother is Anthony Saccoccio who graduated Cranston East in 1968.  I
also have not forgotten you and will be contacting my friend Joe Disimone after
Easter Sunday.

Jerry,

They were my father's cousins. I think you also had relatives named Luke and
Loretta (Saccoccio) Grossi.  Loretta is still alive in her 90s and looks great. 
If so, we are definitely related.

Lou Saccoccio


--- In FraDiavolo@yahoogroups.com, marie elena saccoccio <saccocciom@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, fellow Saccoccios. Do any of you know or recall someone named Stephanie
Saccoccio?  I visited with her and her parents years ago in Rhode Island. Her
father and mine were cousins. I know her parents are dead and I always wanted to
find her.  Her parents were so nice.  Today I suspect she would be in her
early 50's.  I cannot recall her mother's name but I think her father was
called "Jackson."  Her mother may have been called Josephine.  Stephanie was
an only child.
>
>
> Marie Elena Saccoccio
>  
>
> --- On Wed, 3/31/10, jaysac1@... <jaysac1@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: jaysac1@... <jaysac1@...>
> Subject: Re: [FraDiavolo] Re: Searching
> To: FraDiavolo@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 9:54 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
> Hi Lou,
> THe owners of the Aro-Sac company were August and Robert Saccoccio..Louis was
the son of Robert Saccoccio... Two other brothers Pete and John also worked
at Aro-Sac.(Aro- Sac was a tool and die company in the Imperial Knife building
in Providence). .....My father was Gennaro (Jerry) Saccoccio and we lived on
Phenix Avenue in Cranston.  On my maternal side we were Piacente.
>  
>
> In a message dated 3/31/2010 2:09:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
louissaccoccio@ yahoo.com writes:
>  
>
> Hi Jerry,
>
> We are probably related. I believe my father's cousins owned Aro-Sac. I did
not work at Aro-Sac but my father owned Saco Casting Company. I had a cousin,
Thomas Saccoccio, whose father owned a company called Bowcraft. Does any of this
ring a bell?
>
> Lou Saccoccio
>
> --- In FraDiavolo@yahoogro ups.com, jaysac1@ wrote:
> >
> > I'm looking for Louis Saccoccio that worked at Aro-Sac Company in
> > Providence
> > Jerry J. Saccoccio
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 3/26/2010 12:47:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > louissaccoccio@ ... writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Maureen,
> >
> > I grew up in Knightsville on St Mary's Drive which is a block from St
> > Mary's & St Anne's church as well as St Mary's cemetary.
> >
> > I knew and still know a Joseph DeSimone who is a little older than me and
> > is now around 65-67 years old. He still lives in Cranston just west of
> > knightsville.
> >
> > If you have any other information I will try to contact him to see if he
> > knows or is related to the person your are inquiring about.
> >
> > Lou Saccoccio
> >
> > --- In _FraDiavolo@ yahoogroFraDiav_ (mailto:FraDiavolo@yahoogro ups.com) ,
> > Maureen Perry <bella02920@ bel> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello
> > > Â
> > > I am looking for a family named, DeSimone, from Itri. The husband is
> > named, Giuseppe, he is around the age of 66/67. He has 2 daughters
and a
> > son. Also, a wife who is still alive, I belive. Back in the 70's
they
> > lived in the city of Cranston, but moved back to Itri around the late
> > 70's. Any idea's?
> > > Â
> > > thank you,
> > > Â
> > > Maureen
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 2/11/10, S <sxp215@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: S <sxp215@>
> > > Subject: [FraDiavolo] Re: Searching
> > > To: _FraDiavolo@ yahoogroFraDiav_ (mailto:FraDiavolo@yahoogro ups.com)
> > > Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 6:43 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Bonnie~
> > >
> > > There probably is a relation, but I have no idea what it is! :-)
> > >
> > > All I know of this leg of my family is the Giovanina (Jennie) DeSimone
> > married Anthony Paparelli and they had 3 children in Italy. Their oldest
> > daughter, Maria/Mary was my Great-Grandmother. They came to the US in 1911
and
> > had a bunch more children here.
> > >
> > > On her Ellis Island record, Jennie listed her brother Raffielli (sp?) as
> > her closest relative in Italy. I'm just beginning to dig deeper into my
> > Itri roots...I've concentrated on the Sicilian part of my heritage until
> > recently.
> > >
> > > --- In FraDiavolo@yahoogro ups.com, "bonval" <BonVal@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Stephanie -
> > > > I have a lot of information on Itri - my husband is a DiCrocco from
> > there - we have a nephew who is a DeSimone of Itri - his family own the
pizza
> > place across from the commune (city hall). Any relation? Be happy to
> > compare notes if you want!
> > > > Bonnie (valentinoswife)
> > > > _http://valentinoswi _ (http://valentinoswi /) fe.wordpress. com
> > > >
> > > > --- In FraDiavolo@yahoogro ups.com, "S" <sxp215@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I feel like an idiot, but it's 1:00 in the morning and I've been
> > trapped inside from a snowstorm all week. So please forgive me. How do you
> > search these posts? I've been doing some research on my Great-Great-
> > Grandmother Giovanina DeSimone who was born in Itri and lived most of her
life in
> > Erie, PA. When I try to search posts for mentions of "DeSimone" I get no
> > results, even though I can clearly see that the most recent post was from
> > someone names DeSimone. What am I doing wrong? Also, is there a way to look
at
> > the posts I've made to this group in the past? I tried clicking on my
> > username, but it just took me to some pseudo-facebook page. Grr.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your help! Maybe this will all make more sense in the
> > morning.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stephanie
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Hi everyone,

We have been updating our new website about the South Lazio area:

http://southlazio. shapcott- family.com

Here are the pages relating to :

ITRI:   http://itri.shapcott-family.com

CAMPODIMELE:  http://campodimele.shapcott-family.com

GAETA:   http://gaeta.shapcott-family.com

FORMIA:   http://formia.shapcott-family.com

FONDI:    http://fondi.shapcott-family.com

SPERLONGA:  http://sperlonga.shapcott-family.com

Hope you may find them useful.

Ciao for now !!!

Paul and Louise

Dear Itrani Descendents,
I hope you are all well and that this group is still active in research and
discussion on our common village of origin. As you can see I am a new member,
quite late to the party it seems, but not too late I trust?
My name is Paul Capotosto, I reside in New York and have been told my family
came from Itri. As a member of ancestry.com I have uncovered more than I ever
expected on the history and lineage of the Capotosto name. It gave me many
answers but also created many questions, and I sincerely anticipate that some of
the members of this group can be of assistance.
I began sporadic research about 5 years ago through the Ellis Island website,
and as time permitted I found more sites and uncovered quite a bit of material.
I have to say it can seem overwhelming but I truly enjoy the discovery aspect.

So here is my question, do any of you have a connection to Raffaele Capotosto
b.1845'ish married to Maria Antonia Di Fabrici (Fabrizio, Fabritius) in Itri,
Sep 1866?

I have read that you may have the 1754 Catasta for Itri, sorry I did not learn
of this group sooner or I would have joined you in the purchase, I just
purchased a copy that I must translate; I did however locate about 10 Capotosto
families there at the time. I can't seem to link them up to my family tree as of
yet. But I believe the answer is out there and one day I will hopefully find it.

I would like to thank all of you in advance for any help you may offer and if I
can help you please don't hesitate to ask.
Ciao,
Paul

Hi Paul,

I checked my Iacueo tree and I don't have any Capotosto connections in there,
but has anyone recommended the LDS microfilms to you? These are microfilms of
birth, death, marriage and other records that are kept by the Mormon church and
are available to the general public. All you need to do is visit a Mormon church
in your area that participates in its Family Search program and for a nominal
cost you can rent these microfilms, for viewing on their premises on their
microfilm machines. At least that's the way it was 4 years ago when I did most
of my research.

The microfilms of Itri are extremely rich with information, and if you want to
trace your roots back from the present to the Catasto era they are probably
indispensable. There are 26 microfilm rolls covering Itri (at least as of 4
years ago), and it's a tedious process, but the rewards are priceless. I can
tell you for a fact that you will find many Capotostos in there, as I remember
seeing the name often during my research.

I also have a copy of the Catasto, and I am also interested in having it
translated, I just haven't had the time to do it to-date. If you find someone
that can do it, please let me know if you are interested in sharing the cost of
the translation.

Otherwise, good luck with your research.

Rick


--- In FraDiavolo@yahoogroups.com, "paul.capotosto" <paul.capotosto@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Itrani Descendents,
> I hope you are all well and that this group is still active in research and
discussion on our common village of origin. As you can see I am a new member,
quite late to the party it seems, but not too late I trust?
> My name is Paul Capotosto, I reside in New York and have been told my family
came from Itri. As a member of ancestry.com I have uncovered more than I ever
expected on the history and lineage of the Capotosto name. It gave me many
answers but also created many questions, and I sincerely anticipate that some of
the members of this group can be of assistance.
> I began sporadic research about 5 years ago through the Ellis Island website,
and as time permitted I found more sites and uncovered quite a bit of material.
I have to say it can seem overwhelming but I truly enjoy the discovery aspect.
>
> So here is my question, do any of you have a connection to Raffaele Capotosto
b.1845'ish married to Maria Antonia Di Fabrici (Fabrizio, Fabritius) in Itri,
Sep 1866?
>
> I have read that you may have the 1754 Catasta for Itri, sorry I did not learn
of this group sooner or I would have joined you in the purchase, I just
purchased a copy that I must translate; I did however locate about 10 Capotosto
families there at the time. I can't seem to link them up to my family tree as of
yet. But I believe the answer is out there and one day I will hopefully find it.
>
> I would like to thank all of you in advance for any help you may offer and if
I can help you please don't hesitate to ask.
> Ciao,
> Paul
>

Hi Kathy,

I don't have an answer as of yet, I have many Capotosto branches of my tree all
from Itri. My Gr Gr Grandfather Raffaele brought his two sons, Antonio and
Pasquale (my Gr Grandfather) to NY 26th May 1885. As I discovered they had many
cousins in Italy, some in Canada and other parts of the US. I still have much
more to find, and I also hope someone already has and will share the info I
seek.

If I can help you let me know, how far back can you trace the family?


Regards,
Paul

--- In FraDiavolo@yahoogroups.com, Itri1@... wrote:
>
> Are you related to Francesco Capotosto that passed away in Itri on May, 2009?
>
> Kathy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Domenic Livoli
> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 7:23 am
> Subject: RE: [FraDiavolo] Re: Itrani Origins
> To: FraDiavolo@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Paul,
> >
> >
> >
> > I believe my great-great grandmother was Domenica Capotosto.
> > Greg Pezza has
> > an extensive family tree and I just received this going back to middle
> > 1800's.
> >
> >
> >
> > It would be great to have you and your family at the feast in
> > Cranston this
> > coming July.
> >
> >
> >
> > I am not exactly sure what or who the catalyst was to send a lot
> > of Itrani
> > families to Cranston, but the church was built in the early
> > 1900's. There
> > is another church next door called St. Ann's and also the
> > cemetery is St.
> > Ann's. The Italians did want their own place of worship and the
> > church was
> > built. My grandmother came to Cranston during the war with 2
> > children, but
> > my grandfather Paolo Pezza stayed and fought for Italy in WWI.
> > He came to
> > Cranston after the war and joined my grandmother and they had my
> > two uncles,
> > Mike and Joe, whom are still living and my mother was the baby
> > who passed
> > away in 2009.
> >
> >
> >
> > It is fascinating. They came for a better life. Some went to
> > France, some
> > to New York, some to Canada. Even you talk to some of the
> > people that lived
> > in Itri during WWII. I had cousins from Canada who came to see
> > us two years
> > ago. They left Itri after WWII and never went back. They said
> > they wanted
> > to forget about that life and the horrors they saw during WWII.
> > Bombings so
> > close. A family of 5 people fleeing to shelters/caves in the
> > mountains and
> > living on one loaf of bread and small amounts of water for long
> > periods of
> > time until it was safe to try to go back to what was left of
> > their homes.
> >
> >
> >
> > And then there are people that settled here after WWII and they
> > and their
> > families go back and forth all the time, enjoying a beautiful
> > area, seeing
> > family and friends.
> >
> >
> >
> > I hope to get there someday to take that walk.
> >
> >
> >
> > Domenic
> >
> >
> >
> > Domenic Livoli
> >
> > Livoli Estimating Service
> >
> > 24 Juniper Road
> >
> > Upton, MA 01568-1481
> >
> > Tel. (508) 529-0362
> >
> > Fax: (508) 529-0384
> >
> > Email: dlivoli@...
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: FraDiavolo@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:FraDiavolo@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Paul Capotosto
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 11:02 AM
> > To: FraDiavolo@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [FraDiavolo] Re: Itrani Origins
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Domenic,
> >
> >
> >
> > I recently became aware of the many Italian families in RI, look
> > forward to
> > learning more about them and why so many Itrani decided to live there.
> >
> >
> >
> > I will speak more with cousin Greg, as I have seen Pezza in our
> > tree going
> > back a few generations.
> >
> >
> >
> > Fitting his Dad was born on St Josephs Day and named Joseph,
> > Happy B-day to
> > him
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

I'm not sure if I'm in the right place but here goes. I'm researching the
Gaetano Raffalle Valente and Assunta Maria DeFazio, from ELENA, Italy to Boston,
Massachusetts. Any one out there know this family???