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#1365 From: cruzann@...
Date: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:10 am
Subject: home soon
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I live in Coral Springs.........north of. Ft Lauderale, a family kind of town.
Wouldn't mind living at the beach. diane


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#1364 From: "cruzanndr" <cruzann@...>
Date: Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:01 pm
Subject: what's going on
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I am headed back to Florida on Sunday,after a 5 month stay in NY babsitting my
daughters twins. I wonder what to expect in my house, bugs?????? was the air low
enough, how about the weeds? It isn't easy leaving a house, it isn't like a
condo, right?

What will I find new in development? Is everything at a stand still? I bet it is
hot, not like the cool night, 65 here in NY. I need my car windows tinted, are
yours tinted? I need to visit my favorite restaurants, see my friends and fondle
my sewing machine and quilt stash of fabric.

Oh so much to do.........how about you?  diane

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#1362 From: "Ron" <ronaldsnare@...>
Date: Tue Aug 1, 2006 8:16 pm
Subject: Tropical Storm Chris - Third Named Storm in 2006 Season
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Tropical Storm Chris was born yesterday. Current track has Chris moving
across the keys and into the Gulf of Mexico. Don't yet know if it will
become a hurricane ...... may not. If the upper wind shears keep
blowing the tops off of Chris, Chris may never be much more than it is.
Let's hope so.

A look at the historical frequency distribution of storms over the
months from June through October, shows August and September to have
the most storms.

If you want to keep track of all the latest tracking updates,
intensity, etc. of Chris go to this website:

http://www.emergencyemail.org/TropicalStormChris2006.asp


Ron

#1361 From: "Ron" <ronaldsnare@...>
Date: Tue Jun 6, 2006 10:02 pm
Subject: Hope Nothing Bad Happened To Any Of Us Today 06/06/06
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Today is a day of anxiety for superstitious folks. The release of the
redone movie "Omen" today did not help.

But next year will be better. The SUPER GOOD FORTUNE DAY occurs on
07/07/07 !!!!!

Ron

#1360 From: "Ron" <ronaldsnare@...>
Date: Tue Jun 6, 2006 9:58 pm
Subject: Observed Florida Wildlife Critter - New To Me
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When our home was being constructed at the beginning of the new
millennium (sounds mighty ancient but 2001 is the first year of the
new century), I found a cute little animal trapped in a PVC pipe. It
had a glossy brown coat, shiny black eyes and a short stub of a tail.
Reminded me of a hamster.

Being a golden hearted lover of wildlife, I let it go scampering into
the hedgerow. I thought I heard it squeak, "You will be rewarded."
Later that week I found a brand new penny dated 2001 where the PVC
pipe had been. I was not disappointed. Critters don't know the value
of people money ....... heck even we people don't always know the
value of our own money. The critter was just practicing the old adage
of "give to Caeser what belongs to Caeser."

Lately, we have noticed little trails through our pine chip mulch.
Some critter has been hunting insects among the pine bark chips.

Then, last week, as I was sitting in our bedroom drinking that first
hot cup of coffee of the day and watching the firey morning sun cast
reds and oranges on the waters of Lake Griffin, the same brown,
glossy furred critter with the stub tail scurried past the sliding
doors.

After inquiring among the animal lovers, hunters and long time
residents (the hunters are not generally the same as the animal
lovers) in this area, they advised me to "Google" the word "Vole."

Yes, Mr. and Mrs. MacCuddy, the critter is a "vole."

In fact, the critter is a "meadow vole" that forages on top of the
ground. Further north in colder climes is the "underground vole" that
eat the roots of landscape plants (and kills them over time). The
meadow vole forages on top of the ground but lives in burrows. Vole
burrows are often the same burrows that the gopher tortoise digs and
resides in. We also have a few gopher tortoise residents in the
neighborhood.

Voles are not mice or rats or moles. Our Voles likely explains the
presence of several Indigo and Corn Snakes living around our yard.
These snakes enjoy Vole BBQ ribs and Vole nuggets.

Voles range over most of the USA. However, the range maps seen on the
Internet show the Vole range to only be north of Orlando.

Sorry Naples, Miami and other places in the tropical Florida
netherlands ----- no Voles for you.

Ron

#1359 From: "Ron" <ronaldsnare@...>
Date: Tue Jun 6, 2006 9:55 pm
Subject: Re: Could you resend me e-mail on berries?
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Kristilsnowtiger,

Hope this is the posting that you inquired about!!

Blueberries are ripe! Just returned with two large buckets of juicy
blueberries. Am eating some now with milk and sugar .... yum!

Fresh picked blueberries are too delicious to cook. We eat them fresh.

We picked ours at a local small grower south of Ocala on Route 42.

I know of another place near Clermont named "Mark's U-Pick Berries"
located on 15 acres off Road 561. Mark McCaffrey has been raising
blueberries since 1984.

Blueberry season normally runs between May 1 and July 1. This year
they ripened a few weeks earlier.

There are twenty varieties of blueberries. Mark's place has all the
varieties growing across 9,000 plants. The varieties ripen at
slightly different times and thus keeps the season stretched up
through July 1.

Must stop now and wipe the blue milk from my chin!!

Ron



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> Could you resend me e-mail on berries?
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#1358 From: kristilsnowtiger@...
Date: Tue May 2, 2006 8:57 pm
Subject: Re: Romancing Lemon Sharks
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Could you resend me e-mail on berries?


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#1357 From: "Ron" <ronaldsnare@...>
Date: Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:07 pm
Subject: Romancing Lemon Sharks
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Sam Gruber's career of researching sharks did not prepare him for the
huge number of lemon sharks that congregate off Jupiter Inlet on the
Atlantic Ocean.

Gruber first noticed this "shark convention" while scuba diving at
Jupiter Inlet four years ago.

He saw over 100 lemon sharks hovering above the ocean floor in 90
feet of water.

During his more than 40 year career, Gruber had seen no more than 15
to 20 adult lemon sharks. In one day he had seen more lemon sharks
multiplied by five than he had seen in his entire career of observing
shark behavior.

The lemon shark is named "lemon" because of their yellowish brown
tint. They also can be identified by their dual dorsel fins.

So .... why are there so many lemon sharks at Jupiter Inlet?

Gruber visits Jupiter Inlet between December and March every year
since four years ago when he stumbled into the lemon shark convention.

Nowhere else in the world does Gruber know of a gathering of lemon
sharks.

One theory is ROMANCE!!! Female sharks emit chemical signals called
pheromones that attract male sharks (something akin to the Orlando or
Miami night life).

But the question remains about why the females choose Jupiter Inlet
to cruise for boyfriends????

Could have something to do with ocean currents, temperature, degree
of salinity.......

He is collecting water samples around the female sharks to analyze
the situation. Sounds dangerous to messing with the females when they
are trying to attract males with which to mate.

Juvenile lemon sharks are easier to study. They can be found in
shallow bays and lagoons. But once they become about age three, they
vanish. Thus, not much is known about adult lemon sharks.

This lack of knowledge, it seems to me, makes Gruber's attempts to
hang around the romantic females quite risky.

It does sound risky to be swimming around Jupiter Inlet between
December and March.

Ron

#1356 From: "Ron" <ronaldsnare@...>
Date: Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:04 pm
Subject: The Beauty of Butterflies at Butterfly Rainforest in Gainesville
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During May, the Florida Museum of Natural History in Gainesville is
offering a workshop on how to create a butterfly garden.

Call (352)846-2000 for information about the Butterfly Rainforest
hours
and the dates and hours of the workshop.

We have taken many visitors and family members to the Museum of
Natural
History. The Butterfly Rainforest is attached to the Museum.

Florida had some scary critters roaming the peninsula in prehistoric
times. The Museum of Natural History has their skeletons and life
size models. The giant sloth is one mean looking critter.

Now we have alligators, iguana, monitor lizards and giant snakes such
as tne anaconda, boa constrictor and python running free in our
neighborhoods. All but our alligator are non-native to Florida .....
not that they had a choice. People get either tired or frightened of
their exotic pets and let them loose in their neighbors backyards.
Then
they multiply and become a devour of household pets.

Ron

#1355 From: "Ron" <ronaldsnare@...>
Date: Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:02 pm
Subject: Blueberry Picking Season IS NOW!!!!!
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Blueberries are ripe! Just returned with two large buckets of juicy
blueberries. Am eating some now with milk and sugar .... yum!

Fresh picked blueberries are too delicious to cook. We eat them fresh.

We picked ours at a local small grower south of Ocala on Route 42.

I know of another place near Clermont named "Mark's U-Pick Berries"
located on 15 acres off Road 561. Mark McCaffrey has been raising
blueberries since 1984.

Blueberry season normally runs between May 1 and July 1. This year
they ripened a few weeks earlier.

There are twenty varieties of blueberries. Mark's place has all the
varieties growing across 9,000 plants. The varieties ripen at
slightly different times and thus keeps the season stretched up
through July 1.

Must stop now and wipe the blue milk from my chin!!

Ron

#1354 From: "Ron" <ronaldsnare@...>
Date: Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:55 pm
Subject: Re: Cypress Gardens Reborn AND IT ROCKS!!!!!
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Don,

The original Cypress Gardens had three main attractions.

(1) Beautiful Southern Belles adorned in coloful gowns (think hoop
skirts). They walked among the gardens with hair done up as you see
in the film "Gone With The Wind."

(2) Gardens with every plant labeled. Horticulture fans and home
gardeners receive an education (if you can tear your eyes from the
beautiful Southern Belles.

(3) A water ski show that was both gracefully beautiful (water
ballet) and also thrilling with ski daredevils.

Today, those original attractions have been recreated. The waterski
show was to restart this year.

The thrill rides are away from the gardens and do not detract at all.

Ron



--- In Florida@yahoogroups.com, "Don" <calldon2k@...> wrote:
>
> --- In Florida@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <ronaldsnare@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Wow! Cypress Gradens, renamed and reopened as Cypress Gardens
> > Adventure Park > > Ron
> >
> --------------------------
>
> I never had a chance to go to Cypress Gardens but always wanted to.
> I was really sad when they closed the doors.  My question is
> this...what was the attraction of the original Cypress Gardens?
Why
> did people go there in the first place?  How much does the noise
and
> activity of the new rides affect the original part of the Cypress
> Gardens?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> ----------
>

#1353 From: "Ron" <ronaldsnare@...>
Date: Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:49 pm
Subject: Travelin' the "real" Florida...was...Re: An "old" Florida Road
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Don,

There are books in almost any Florida bookstore about the "old
Florida."

I usually just pick up a Florida map and choose all of the smallest
roads that go through all of the smallest towns.

I just love some of the names like Yeehaw Junction and Frostproof.

Ron





-- In Florida@yahoogroups.com, "Don" <calldon2k@...> wrote:
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> --- In Florida@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <ronaldsnare@> wrote:
> >
> > Beginning at Haines City to Frostproof, Route 17 parallels Route
27
> > south. A drive along Route 17 is a drive through the Florida of
50 or
> > more years ago.
> >
> ----------------
>
> Ron, this is excellent!  My interest is in finding those roads,
those
> highways that used to be what Florida really was, before the land
> developers came about.
>
> How do you find them, other than just drive the older former-major
> highways?  I guess that might be the best way, wouldn't it?
>
> Are there any books or guides to older Florida roads?
>
> -------------
>

#1352 From: kristilsnowtiger@...
Date: Fri Mar 3, 2006 2:14 am
Subject: Re: Travelin' the "real" Florida...was...Re: An "old" Florida Road
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Actually I was thinking about the demographics of rural America and you fill
find,for the most part, that the towns are dying. The young people that are
still there will leave the first chance they get for better opportunities in the
city. Mom and pop farming has basically been replaced by big agri-businesses.
The poor and the retired are the only ones left really. Big box stores like
Wal-Mart have really hurt the small town businesses.


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#1351 From: kristilsnowtiger@...
Date: Fri Mar 3, 2006 2:02 am
Subject: Re: Travelin' the "real" Florida...was...Re: An "old" Florida Road
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We live in rural Florida, west of Ocala, Hwy. 41. It is still cracker
Florida. Levy county is a good place as is most of Citrus county if you hurry.
Dunnellon, Rainbow Lakes, Romeo, Yankeetown, Williston are still little country
towns.


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#1350 From: kristilsnowtiger@...
Date: Fri Mar 3, 2006 1:55 am
Subject: Re: One other comment regarding "the elderly"
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The point I think he was trying to make was that his Dad did not fit the
stereotype of being "elderly", which is why it is in quotes.


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#1349 From: "Don" <calldon2k@...>
Date: Thu Mar 2, 2006 4:39 pm
Subject: Re: "the elderly"
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--- In Florida@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <ronaldsnare@...> wrote:
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> Paul,
>
> What is your definition of "the elderly?" Your expression of "just
the
> elderly" sounds very negative. Don't really know about the area
where
> you lived in Florida, but where I live the demographics are evenly
> distributed. The word "elderly" is a stereotype label. Stereotype
> adjectives, and there are many, are inaccurate descriptions.
>
> From my observations in central Florida, I see people of all ages
and
> even into age nineties riding bikes, hiking, swimming, etc.
>
> I also see people of all ages in hospitals and care facilities.
Age has
> little to do with anything. Being healthy by living a healthy life
is
> the key that will keep you from being referenced as "just the
elderly."
>
> Good luck to you also in Virginia.
>
> Ron
>
> --- In Florida@yahoogroups.com, Paul <summerman2@y...> wrote:
> The weather is even hotter here, but it is nice to go to outdoor
> concerts and see families and little kids, instead of just the
elderly.
>  Good luck,
>
>  Paul
>
-------------------------

I agree with Ron on this.  Around ten years ago, I met an older lady
(65?) here in Texas who had moved for a few years to some place in
Florida.  She moved back to Texas because she didn't like being
around all of the old people.

I have been in Florida many times over the past few decades and my
observations are quite different from Paul's.  As a musician, I
performed in various locations around the state and saw folks of all
ages, but lots of older folks with plenty of life left in them.  I
also taught a 3-day music seminar around the state, classes filled
mostly with retirees.  These folks may have been "older" in years,
but they were playing the organ and piano, dancing, swimming, riding
Harleys, surfing the internet, etc.  And they were a heck of alot
more fun to talk to than most 20-somethings!!!

I have always seen folks of all ages when in various parts of
Florida.  At the Roaring 20s Pizza Parlor outside of Sarasota, there
were families of several generations enjoying the pizza along with
the Wurlitzer pipe organ music.  In fact, the kids got annoying
before my visit was over.  Even when I taught my 3-day seminar, I
always had mostly retirees, but a few younger folks in there,
including some teenagers learning how to play the organ.

Here in Texas, I have a 96-year old friend who got on the internet
when she was a youthful 94.  She now has a "prayer ministry" where
she prays for missionaries around the world, sending them
encouragement via e-mail every day.  Not bad for a young 94-year old
chick.  And she is one of the most fun people I have ever met.

Way back in the olden days, 8-years ago, I was ready to move to
Florida and thought I was.  Some career episodes and changes in the
national economy have kept me here in the middle of the country.
But at the time, I wanted to move to a nice, quiet location, the
kind usually reserved for the "55+" group...and I wasn't even
close.  I am single, no kids, like Lawrence Welk, don't drink or use
drugs, and like good conversation.  Then, I found out I was too
young to legally move in to those places.  Heck, if much more time
passes, I may NOT be too young when I get there.  <grin>

Regarding Paul, we often see what we want to see and often, our view
is clouded by our preconceptions.  I still plan to live in Sunny
Florida.  It will be a great state for me to ride my new maxi-
scooter when I get it soon.

Don, still in Dallas

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#1348 From: "Don" <calldon2k@...>
Date: Thu Mar 2, 2006 4:46 pm
Subject: One other comment regarding "the elderly"
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--- In Florida@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <ronaldsnare@...> wrote:
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> Paul,
>
> What is your definition of "the elderly?" Your expression of "just
the
> elderly" sounds very negative. Don't really know about the area
where
> you lived in Florida, but where I live the demographics are evenly
> distributed. The word "elderly" is a stereotype label. Stereotype
> adjectives, and there are many, are inaccurate descriptions.
-----------

One more comment...

My "elderly" Dad and I took a trip to Philly and D.C. last
September.  We were gone for two weeks, so he had to take off work
from his job as the Emergency Management Agency director for his
county.  Fortunately, it was after the harvest so he had no farming
commitments while we were gone.  Ya see, my "elderly" Dad fought on
Iwo Jima.  We were going to Philly to the reunion of the Fifth
Division Marines, the ones who fought on Iwo Jima.

First thing he did when we got back was drive out to the farm, to
check on his land.  (Farmers understand)  Soon after that, Dad went
on a trip with my older brother, my older brother's son and my older
brother's grandson to the Black Hills for a little pheasant
hunting.  Four generations, wives and kids all together.

It's a shame my "elderly" Dad lives such a sheltered life.  In July,
the poor guy will be 83.  I wonder what he is gonna do next?

(We are thinking about another trip to the gulf coast of Florida for
some seafood.)

--------------------

#1347 From: "Don" <calldon2k@...>
Date: Thu Mar 2, 2006 4:03 pm
Subject: Re: Cypress Gardens Reborn AND IT ROCKS!!!!!
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--- In Florida@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <ronaldsnare@...> wrote:
>
>
> Wow! Cypress Gradens, renamed and reopened as Cypress Gardens
> Adventure Park has been reborn and has something for every
generation.
>
> Besides what is already there, on February 22, 2005 they broke
ground
> for a $10 million water park. The water park will be named SPLASh
> ISLAND. Splash Island will feature several speed water slides, a
wave
> pool, a lazy river, and a children's water play area. Plans are to
> open Splash Island this summer.
>
> For those who have never been there, Cypress Gardens is located in
> Winter Haven in Polk County. It had been in operation for 67 years
> when it closed in April, 2003. The main attractions of the past
> (Southern Belles dressed in gowns, water ski shows and beautiful
> gardens) are still there but with a lot more added.
>
> Cypress Gardens Adventure Park reopened in December, 2004 and has
> been going strong. An average 15,000 visitors a day attend.
>
> I was impressed during my first visit since rebirth of the park.
>
> The park has over 30 new rides. Cypress Gardens Adventure Park's
> owner is Kent Buescher who also owns Wild Adventures in Valdosta,
> Georgia located on I-75 just north of the Florida-Georgia border.
>
> The park has an arcade with interactive games, several roller
> coasters, and other rides.
>
> If you are tired of the crowds at the big theme parks, then take
the
> kids and grandkids to Cypress Gardens. No long lines wiating to
park
> your car or waiting to ride the attractions.
>
> Ron
>
--------------------------

I never had a chance to go to Cypress Gardens but always wanted to.
I was really sad when they closed the doors.  My question is
this...what was the attraction of the original Cypress Gardens?  Why
did people go there in the first place?  How much does the noise and
activity of the new rides affect the original part of the Cypress
Gardens?

Thanks.


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#1346 From: "Don" <calldon2k@...>
Date: Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:46 pm
Subject: Travelin' the "real" Florida...was...Re: An "old" Florida Road
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--- In Florida@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <ronaldsnare@...> wrote:
>
> Beginning at Haines City to Frostproof, Route 17 parallels Route 27
> south. A drive along Route 17 is a drive through the Florida of 50 or
> more years ago.
>
----------------

Ron, this is excellent!  My interest is in finding those roads, those
highways that used to be what Florida really was, before the land
developers came about.

How do you find them, other than just drive the older former-major
highways?  I guess that might be the best way, wouldn't it?

Are there any books or guides to older Florida roads?

-------------

#1345 From: "Ron" <ronaldsnare@...>
Date: Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:52 pm
Subject: Storm Insurance and Flood Insurance in Florida
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The September 29, 2005 Orlando Sentinel Money section printed
information to help new and resale home buyers find insurance.

WINDSTORM INSURANCE:

Most homeowners policies cover damage caused by windstorms,
hurricanes, and hail. However, some insurance companies will not
write policies in high risk areas or for owners of older homes or
manufactured homes. Florida has a state backed insurer of last resort
for homeowners who live in high risk areas or have older homes or
homes not of certain construction standards. This insurer of last
resort is Citizens Property Insurance Corp.

Call 1-800-342-2762 for more information about Citizens Property
Insurance Corp.

FLOOD INSURANCE:

Homeowners policies typically do NOT cover flood damage Flood damage
is defined as damage caused by rising waters.  Other types of water
damage due to wind driven rains that blow shingles off and roof leaks
or through cracks in the stucco typically is covered.

You can purchase Flood Insurance through the Federal Government's
National Flood Insurance Program. You may qualify for a discount if
you include a special property elevation report with your
application. As stated in earlier postings, everyone should know the
elevation of your own property and the dangers of flooding.

Call 1-888-356-6329 for more information about the Federal
Government's National Flood Insurance Program.

Ron

#1344 From: "Ron" <ronaldsnare@...>
Date: Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:49 pm
Subject: An "old" Florida Road
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Beginning at Haines City to Frostproof, Route 17 parallels Route 27
south. A drive along Route 17 is a drive through the Florida of 50 or
more years ago.

The drive from Haines City to Frostproof is 38.7 miles of beauty.
About halfway between Haines City and Frostproof is Lake Wales. Route
17 is referred to as alternate Route 27.

Many fresh vegetable stands do business along 17. Chalet Suzanne,
located in Lake Wales, is a historic 100 acre estate with a 30 room
Inn and restaurant. The Lake Wales Museum and Cultural Center has a
train depot.

The historic Bok Sanctuary with its Tower and carillon bells is along
Route 17.

There are seven great views and 41 recreational facilities along the
38.7 miles of Route 17.

The topography is, unlike Florida in general, very hilly. The Lake
Wales Ridge formed 2.5 million years ago as a sand dune and beach
when the oceans were higher during the last great Global Warming
cycle.

Best of all, the 38.7 miles of route 17 between Haines City and
Frostproof has almost NO BILLBOARDS.

Take the drive into "old" Florida along Route 17 between Haines City
and Frostproof. What a great name, "Frostproof".

Ron

#1343 From: "Ron" <ronaldsnare@...>
Date: Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:05 am
Subject: Our Space Shuttle and Roman War Chariots
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Does the statement, "We've always done it that way" ring any bells?

The US standard railroad gauge (distance between the rails) is 4
feet, 8.5 inches.

That's an exceedingly odd number. Why was that gauge used?

Because that's the way they built them in England, and English
expatriates built the U.S. Railroads.

Why did the English build them like that?

Because the first rail lines were built by the same people who built
the pre-railroad tramways, and that's the gauge they used.

Why did "they" use that gauge then?

Because the people who built the tramways used the same jigs and
tools that they used for building wagons, which used that wheel
spacing.

Okay! Why did the wagons have that particular odd wheel spacing?

Well, if they tried to use any other spacing, the wagon wheels would
break on some of the old, long distance roads in England, because
that's the spacing of the wheel ruts.

So who built those old rutted roads?

Imperial Rome built the first long distance roads in Europe (and
England) for their legions.

The roads have been used ever since.

And the ruts in the roads?

Roman war chariots formed the initial ruts, which everyone else had
to match for fear of destroying their wagon wheels.

Since the chariots were made for Imperial Rome, they were all alike
in the matter of wheel spacing..

The United States standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8.5 inches is
derived from the original specifications for an Imperial Roman war
chariot.

And bureaucracies live forever.

So the next time you are handed a specification and wonder what
horse's ass came up with it, you may be exactly right, because the
Imperial Roman army chariots were made just wide enough to
accommodate the back ends of two war horses.

Now the twist to the story......

When you see a Space Shuttle sitting on its launch pad, there are two
big booster rockets attached to the sides of the main fuel tank.
These are solid rocket boosters, or SRBs.

The SRBs are made by Thiokol at their factory at Utah. The engineers
who designed the SRBs would have preferred to make them a bit fatter,
but the SRBs had to be shipped by train from the factory to the
launch site. The railroad line from the factory happens to run
through a tunnel in the
mountains.

The SRBs had to fit through that tunnel. The tunnel is slightly wider
than the railroad track, and the railroad track, as you now know, is
about as wide as two horses' behinds.

So, a major Space Shuttle design feature of what is arguably the
world's most advanced transportation system was determined over two
thousand years ago by the width of two horses pulling a Roman war
chariot.

#1342 From: "Ron" <ronaldsnare@...>
Date: Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:50 pm
Subject: Re: Shark Submarine
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Diane,

I bet they did know that his shark submarine was a fake. Sharks have
very sharp sense of smell and hearing. Their eyesight is poor so
their sense of smell and hearing lead them to splashing in the water
and/or blood in the water.

The article did say that his shark submarine was a female shark but
he did not say how this is distinguished. Perhaps he uses some scent
of female Great Whites to try to fool them.

I think I would know if a female robot came around me.

Ron
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--- In Florida@yahoogroups.com, cruzann@a... wrote:
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> In a message dated 7/26/2005 7:45:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> Florida@yahoogroups.com writes:
>
> Great  White Shark.
>
>
>
>
> WOW, that was interesting......but I wonder if he did indeed  fool
the
> sharks, I wonder if fish can smell. I try to hide from my
dogs....coming into the
> house very quiet and not moving but I know they can  "smell" me.
> After a few minutes they start to bark, like hey where are  you.
> I think we all came from the ocean, the fascination humans  have
for the
> water is, well I don't know what it is. We all run to the
beach/ocean/lake /river
> with a purpose. WE love being in the water.
> Hummmm wish I had a bigger tub.   diane
>
>
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#1341 From: cruzann@...
Date: Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:27 am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 446
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In a message dated 7/26/2005 7:45:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Florida@yahoogroups.com writes:

Great  White Shark.




WOW, that was interesting......but I wonder if he did indeed  fool the
sharks, I wonder if fish can smell. I try to hide from my  dogs....coming into
the
house very quiet and not moving but I know they can  "smell" me.
After a few minutes they start to bark, like hey where are  you.
I think we all came from the ocean, the fascination humans  have for the
water is, well I don't know what it is. We all run to the  beach/ocean/lake
/river
with a purpose. WE love being in the water.
Hummmm wish I had a bigger tub.   diane


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#1340 From: "Ron" <ronaldsnare@...>
Date: Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:48 pm
Subject: Shark Behavior Being Studied by Swimming As One
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Fabien Cousteau, grandson of the famous underwater explorer, Jacques
Costeau, has built a submarine that looks identical in size, shape,
movement and color to a Great White Shark.

The shark submarine was tested recently near Mexico's Guadalupe
Island, where a large population of Great Whites feeds off a
population of seals.

The idea of Fabien Costeau is to fool the Great Whites into thinking
his submarine, with him inside, is just one of the gang. His sub is
14 feet long. The Great Whites were curious about the "stranger" in
town but seemed to accept him after repeatedly cruising close by.

Costeau, age 37, got the idea of the imitation Great White from a
comic book he read as a boy. The engineer, Eddie Paul, built
Costeau's design. The sub is powered by air from the tail to cruise
at 2 knots, a Great White's speed. Costeau pilots the sub using a
joystick and video monitor.

Costeay filmed his adventure and it is titled "The Mind of a Demon."
It is a documentary which will air later this year.

Understanding shark behavior and habits may help avoid tragic human-
shark encounters that we have read about in recent times. However,
the behavior of Great Whites (featured in the film "Jaws") is not
exactly the same as the infamous Bull Sharks that have been feeding
in the Panhandle and along the Gulf Coast. Bull Sharks seem much more
aggressive than Great Whites.

Ron

#1339 From: "Ron" <ronaldsnare@...>
Date: Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:45 pm
Subject: Re: "the elderly"
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Paul,

What is your definition of "the elderly?" Your expression of "just the
elderly" sounds very negative. Don't really know about the area where
you lived in Florida, but where I live the demographics are evenly
distributed. The word "elderly" is a stereotype label. Stereotype
adjectives, and there are many, are inaccurate descriptions.

From my observations in central Florida, I see people of all ages and
even into age nineties riding bikes, hiking, swimming, etc.

I also see people of all ages in hospitals and care facilities. Age has
little to do with anything. Being healthy by living a healthy life is
the key that will keep you from being referenced as "just the elderly."

Good luck to you also in Virginia.

Ron

--- In Florida@yahoogroups.com, Paul <summerman2@y...> wrote:
The weather is even hotter here, but it is nice to go to outdoor
concerts and see families and little kids, instead of just the elderly.
  Good luck,

  Paul

#1338 From: Paul <summerman2@...>
Date: Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 444
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Hi Diane,

I am safely back in Virginia. I sure don't miss the hurricanes, but I do miss
the beach and the warm Gulf. Before moving to Florida, I was thinking of getting
a diver's knife, just in case I came across a shark, but I never did get it. The
weather is even hotter here, but it is nice to go to outdoor concerts and see
families and little kids, instead of just the elderly.

It is good to be close to my family again too. My son seems to be taking his new
wife to the same events that I took him to when he was a kid. I have met them at
a couple of them. It was way too lonely in Florida for me. When the hurricanes
hit Charlotte County, that was way too close to me in Sarasota County.

If I had the money, it would be nice to have a condo there and spend some time
in Florida.

Good luck,

Paul

cruzann@... wrote:
Hi Folks,

Yesterday I was thinking about this Florida group and how  quiet we all are.
Here in Coral Springs we are waiting for rain. The beach  doesn't sound
inviting, even in the heat of summer....sharks, rip tides, and  sunburn. The
thought
keeps me in the air conditioning waiting for my next bill  from FPL.
How are you spending your days?   diane


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#1337 From: cruzann@...
Date: Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:24 am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 444
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Hi Folks,

Yesterday I was thinking about this Florida group and how  quiet we all are.
Here in Coral Springs we are waiting for rain. The beach  doesn't sound
inviting, even in the heat of summer....sharks, rip tides, and  sunburn. The
thought
keeps me in the air conditioning waiting for my next bill  from FPL.
How are you spending your days?   diane


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#1336 From: "Amber Bruck" <undiscoveredtalent1984@...>
Date: Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:42 pm
Subject: New Theatre
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The Center Stage Theatre is opening in St. Pete in APRIL 2006! If
you're interested in learning more information about this theatre,
please join the online newsletter! We look forward to seeing you there!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thecenterstagetheatre

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