Leonard wrote**************
I do the AFRA website-
http://www.familyrightsassociation.com/

I try to keep the front page somewhat fresh. Right now it is populated
with extremely hard-hitting info about foster kids and I am a tad
reluctant to swap it out. When I do swap stuff off the font page, it
goes on the Hot Spots page
http://www.familyrightsassociation.com/hotspots/index.html

Suzanne: Please do not span on this group, Leonard. This group is about the practice of family advocacy. Your promotion is about foster care news, not about family advocacy. Thank you.

Which brings me to a point I have been wanting to make- Suzanne wants me
to put a disclaimer about Wiseman on the website somewhere.

Incorrect. Suzanne stated that

1. IF AFRA was not affiliated with Billy, and IF AFRA REALLY hated what Billy was doing. . .they wouldn't keep it a secret from Billy the and rest of the advocacy world.
   
2. I offered the suggestion that a PUBLIC CONDEMNATION on the AFRA web site and AFRA forums would give the impression that AFRA REALLY DID CONDEMN what Billy was doing.
   
3. I will take this opportunity to suggest another act which would prove that AFRA walks the walk. . .publicly sanction, comdemn, ban etc. any and all AFRA members or leaders who participated in this disgusting publication.

I also offered the observation that since AFRA REFUSED any kind of public condememnation of Billy and colluding AFRA members, that it is reasonable to infer that AFRA supports Billy; and

Since AFRA refuses to sanction any colluding AFRA member or leader, that it is reasonable to infer that AFRA membership was officially colluding, condoning and encouraging it.

I made no demands on AFRA. . .it is clear to me where AFRA stands on this issue by their actions and inactions.  AFRA is free to come up with their own solutions, if THEY feel they need to, which would have the same effect, IF AFRA were so inclined to create and implement a policy about Billy's web site. If you think you can live with the alternative, you probably have no reason to condemn Billy and AFRA colluders. I don't care WHAT AFRA does about this. I simply expose what they have or have not done and what they are or are not doing. Nothing more, nothing less.

The front
page is the only appropriate place to put that. Now the rub comes from
the fact that the website is foremost for the terrified new initiates
into CPS hell. They certainly do not need to be distracted by the stupid
shit with Wiseman. In fact, even though "Need Help NOW?" is at the top
of the menu and highlighted in yellow background, people are so scared
blind that they often can't see it.

Not our problem, Leonard. Don't bring this kind of internal AFRA problem here for us to solve for you . You and AFRA leadership got yourself into this. I have no duty to help you out of it.

And it would be absurd to use the website to rebut every accusation that
gets tossed at us.

Why would you think you had to do that? What a dumb idea to propose.   Suzaznne

Leonard