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Kandy,
 
As citizens, they are free to choose whatever way they want to handle this dispute. However, court rarely settle disputes since you go into this venue as adversaries.  Sometimes, you are surprised by what happens in court.
 
I have not lied to anyone here.
 
However, I see some real credibility issues on the other side.
 
Mr. Tower may be trying to say that he didn't find my name now that I have suffered irreprable harm, however it has been documented in correspondence that he did do it and he has never denied it.
 
In fact, he tried to claim it was public record.  However, I, unlike Mr. Blair, never signed my married name, phone number and home address.  I didn't publish it.  Mr. Tower found it for the Dutkiewicz's as it documented and then they all published it, including Mr. Tower assaulting my first amendment right to privacy and anominity on the internet.  Mr. Tower, Mr. Hinger, Mr. Cletus, Mr. Wiseman, Mr. Dutkiewicz, Mrs. Dutkiewicz, Mr. Blair, Ann Durand, Brenda Swallow all assaulted my privacy.  Here is what the Supreme Court has said to that.
 
A. The anonymity of Internet speech is protected by the First Amendment.
The right to the freedom of speech is enshrined in the First Amendment
to the United States Constitution, which provides that "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press[.]" U.S. Const. amend. I. This limitation on governmental interference with free speech applies directly to the federal government, and has been imposed on the states via the Fourteenth Amendment. See, e.g., First Nat'l Bank v. Bellotti, 435 U.S. 765, 779-80, 98 S.Ct. 1407, 55 L.Ed.2d 707 (1978).
First Amendment protections extend to speech via the Internet. "Through the use of web pages, mail exploders and newsgroups, [any person] can become a pamphleteer." Reno, 521 U.S. 870, 117 S.Ct. 2329. A component of the First Amendment is the right to speak with anonymity. This component of free speech is well established. See, e.g., Buckley v. American Constitutional Law Found., 525 U.S. 182, 200, 119 S.Ct. 636, 142 L.Ed.2d 599 (1999) (invalidating, on First Amendment grounds, a Colorado statute that required initiative petition circulators to wear identification badges); McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Comm'n, 514 U.S. 334, 357, 115 S.Ct. 1511, 131 L.Ed.2d 426 (1995) (overturning an Ohio law that prohibited the distribution of campaign literature that did not contain the name and address of the person issuing the literature, holding that "[u]nder our Constitution, anonymous pamphleteering is not a pernicious, fraudulent practice, but an honorable tradition of advocacy and dissent. Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority."); Talley v. California, 362 U.S. 60, 65, 80 S.Ct. 536, 4 L.Ed.2d 559 (1960) (invalidating a California statute prohibiting the distribution of "any handbill in any place under any circumstances" that did not contain the name and address of the person who prepared it, holding that identification and fear of reprisal might deter "perfectly peaceful discussions of public matters of importance.")
The right to speak anonymously was of fundamental importance to the establishment of our Constitution...
 
 Anonymous speech is a great tradition that is woven into the fabric of this nation's history.
The right to speak anonymously extends to speech via the Internet. Internet anonymity facilitates the rich, diverse, and far ranging exchange of ideas. The "ability to speak one's mind" on the Internet "without the burden of the other party knowing all the facts about one's identity can foster open communication and robust debate.
 
There is substantial case law as to a person's right to anominity on the web.
 
Mr. Tower told many menbers he was a law student.  He told a legal advocate he was a law student at McGeorge University on two occasions.  This is documented.
 
He wrote a letter to lawyers stating he was a paralegal. This is documented
 
He led people to believe that he was in court with minor children and boasted that he brough home 29 children. This is documented.
 
Mr. Hinger stated to other members that Mr. Tower holds a bar card.  This is documented.
 
He stated that he didn't care what the Dutkiewicz did.  This is documented.  Credibility is very important in a court of law.
 
effie
In a message dated 8/10/2006 3:41:52 PM Eastern DayligTime, mbabymilan@... writes:

Effie, For this I am frustrated.  Wil Tower and Dennis want to handle this in court from this point.  So I don't know if it is possible to solve any of these things otherwise between you and them, by talking it out.  I have heard from both of you and I feel there are misunderstandings that could be worked out. 
 
I know that Wil denies helping Aimee get that information. 
 
I am disgusted by what I saw and read on Billy's web site a few months ago.  I can only imagine it is worse now.  I told myself I wouldn't view it again.  So I haven't seen the publishing of the names.  I do believe that it is there and should not be.   I do not agree with those tactics.  I know that he feels justified in doing it, I still do not agree with it. 
 
How do we turn this away from a personal battle and get back to letting others be?  I wish we could just issue an amnesty for all past misdeeds and start over again. 
 
Start over and agree to be ethical.  Agree to sort out the sources of information and the rightful owners and establish them as such.  Agree not to use people's work without giving credit or getting permission.  Agree to not seeing other groups as competition if they seek to help families.  there are so many things we could do to stay out of trouble in the future if we could forgive the past. 
 
Kandy
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: lbe818@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [FamilyRightsAdvocacyIMPROVEMENTProject]

Kandy,
 
In regard to your first post that you have never been attacked, just running your groups.  Well, you described me.  Ask anyone, I've never harmed anyone for simply no reason.  When Mr. Tower decided to stick his nose in my business and give the rabid Tom and Aimee the information that he illegally took from his job  he not only broke the Honor Code of the University, he got himself ousted out of his job and he violated my rights.  Then he tries to blame me and he adds fabrication that I accused him of sexual abuse to try to garner sympathy from fathers.
 
He tries to justify himself stating it was public record.  However, it wasn't an issue on any of the archives of any of the groups.  Furthermore, I took pains to protect my family by using my maiden name.  So in effect, he had to go and dig for it for the Dutkiewicz to use against me.  He wanted to hide behind Aimee as does Mr. Dutkiewicz but there is a ton of documentation that Mr. and Mrs. Dutkiewicz worked together and that especially Mrs. Dutkiewicz spoke with Mr. Tower almost daily.  Once Mr. Tower took over AFRA's leadership, he involved all of them and not only I have this documentation but many do.
 
The response from AFRA that they don't associate falls on deaf ears.  You can see the captured posts and furthermore, it is documented that Aimee uses her husband's e-mail account to post.   For the record, The Dutkiewicz interferred with my conference before it took place.  Go into the archives and view the post from the hotel.  She also reiterated the same facts to an attorney.
 
Mr. Weisman has now included himself in this matter because he posted Aimee's remarks, her violation of my privacy on his website and he has not removed them in the 48 hours I gave him as notice.
 
In fact, anyone who posted my name and violated my privacy has included themselves.  Mr. Kiefer, Mr. Hinger, Mr. Blair, Ann Durand, and Renee. The sad thing is that they will try to blame it all on Billy as they are trying to do right now, but association is association and guilt by association is the law!
 
Mr. Wiseman admits in this brief that he breaks the law all the time when he drives without a license.  It also exhibits his poor understanding of the law.  It is easy and reasonable to discern that Billy believes that he can offend God by only following the laws he thinks he should.  Nothing can be further from the truth.  He also is harming children.  I remember clearly the instruction from Jesus.  "it is better to tie a millstone around one's neck and cast themselves into the sea, then to harm one of my children."
 
Mr. Weisman thinks it okay to harm Suzanne's children, my children and other children by writing lies about us to officials in our states.  He will have to face the Judgment seat of Christ in the end.  All the abuse he suffered as a child will be minimal if he is cast out in the end.  It will be eternal suffering very slowly!  Now read his brief of why he should be allowed to drive without a license!
 
 


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Kandy, As citizens, they are free to choose whatever way they want to handle this dispute. However, court rarely settle disputes since you go into this venue...
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Likely, Billy is making the same mistake in reading comprehension that others before him have made. I don't know, haven't looked, but would bet he is listed as...
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