... [Gordon]NonPhysical that does not Compute because the mind being a Physical thing to start with makes mental maps of the world.But only through Macroscopic...
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june.shippey@...
Nov 1, 2001 6:17 pm
Aki Tasa wrote: The mechanism of collapse of wave-function is the evolution of ... [Gordon]Graviton are just a theory at the moment that mainly Particle ...
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Marchal
marchal@...
Nov 1, 2001 6:18 pm
... Because I interpret "possible universe" or "possible model of p" by "p belongs to a model" or "p belongs to a consistent extension", which I translate in...
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Marchal
marchal@...
Nov 1, 2001 6:56 pm
Gordon ... The mind? A physical thing? Interesting postulate, and indeed incompatible with the comp hypothesis. ... I thought the MWI does not need that...
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Damien Broderick
d.broderick@...
Nov 2, 2001 1:25 am
I enjoyed Henry R. Sturman's interesting critique of FOR, and have been waiting impatiently to read the many brilliant and conclusive rebuttals of his various...
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june.shippey@...
Nov 2, 2001 3:05 pm
... [Gordon] incompatible with the comp hypothesis now that is strange thing to say as most who talk about the mind would say it is Comp (even though I dont...
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Marchal
marchal@...
Nov 2, 2001 9:50 pm
... I explain how and why any deafblind (or without any sensory apparatus) universal sound machine will converge toward QM from the problem "were does I come...
If anyone in this group likes to read sci fi, then here is a really good short story I found in the "16th annual collection of the year's best science fiction"...
... Photons can be emitted and absorbed, that's all. They can't even change direction. I just learned that. Mirrors absorb photons, and emit photons that have...
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june.shippey@...
Nov 3, 2001 1:19 pm
... [Gordon]I think what I was getting at was how Humans get this not Comp however I know where you are coming from but I think you have put your self into a...
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june.shippey@...
Nov 3, 2001 1:19 pm
... [Gordon]What if you measure a Photon State not directly but by Measuring something else in order to extract the info about the state without loss of...
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june.shippey@...
Nov 3, 2001 4:45 pm
... [Gordon]These gaps are the shadow Photons in the interference pattern or what other say is not there,I see our Universe a an Abstraction like a kind of...
... The mechanism of collapse of wave-function is the evolution of wave-functions, particularly that kind of evolution where the waves evolve so that they...
... These kinds of measurement don't work in general because they require setting up specific entangled states first. You can't use them to measure random...
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june.shippey@...
Nov 5, 2001 5:14 pm
... [Gordon]In any Experiment you change the State,but I know what you mean. However I think thats what the MWI's is telling us is that Specific Entangled...
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Marchal
marchal@...
Nov 7, 2001 4:38 pm
... You know where I am coming from? Where I am coming from? Also, I don't feel myself into a corner but the mathematical questions I raise seems hard to my...
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june.shippey@...
Nov 8, 2001 2:03 am
... [Gordon]How do you prove the Non Physical? ... [Gordon]In Nature has shown us that two different Systems of Rules can lead to the same Features,and the...
Just to be caviling... ... [Gordon]How do you prove the Non Physical? [Brett] How do you *prove* the physical? It was only a few months ago that this forum...
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Marchal
marchal@...
Nov 8, 2001 4:20 pm
... What is the link? Are you suspecting I got some Natural Number on the head after which I became a true believer in Numberland? Mmh... Brett Hall is right...
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Marchal
marchal@...
Nov 8, 2001 4:21 pm
... It's a formidable post. I'm less and less sure about a *global* measure or probability, though. I do think there are absolute structures on the set of...
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june.shippey@...
Nov 8, 2001 4:44 pm
... [Gordon]Just to add it still does not get away from the Non-physical at least the Physical has something to start with,where in the past when Philosophy...
There is a difference between saying "The existence of the physical world is certain (i.e: we can prove it)" and "I believe that the physical world exists". ...
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june.shippey@...
Nov 9, 2001 5:28 pm
Good now Lets get back to the question,(reason for this IS I think I worded the answer wrong) what I mean is: Can we give meaning to the term NonPhysical,where...
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Marchal
marchal@...
Nov 9, 2001 6:36 pm
... The problem is the ambiguity of the expression "physical reality exists and obeys physical laws". I for sure bet physical reality exists and obeys physical...
Charles Goodwin wrote: ``As late as 1900 people didn't believe that atoms 'really' existed because no one had observed one.´´ There are still people who...
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june.shippey@...
Nov 9, 2001 6:57 pm
Gordon Even if your right Physics found that Comp and the Physical world where related through the Philosophy of the Physical hence Objects. I agree that our...
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june.shippey@...
Nov 9, 2001 7:00 pm
... [Gordon]I would say that Collapse in the Assumption and that the MWI drops this assumption. ... [Gordon]The Quanta feel them directly and we get that...
I realise that this is only fiction, but I would just like to check something. As I understand it the "Quantum theory of Immortality" claims that consciousness...
Charles Goodwin wrote: ``Anyway, to get to the point! - What I wanted to check was this: according to the "QTI" I assume one *would* experience the car crash,...