... Is this is your proposed strengthened version? ... OK I think I get this. So then also a "cup of coffee" could be simulated in such a computer. Which...
... Of course most simulations aren;t real, and of course the claim that simulated brains, as an exception to the rules, would be just as a real as unsimulated...
... I just realized how this is connected to Finding Common Preferences. We were discussing some ideas from the Attachment Parenting philosophy and Elliot...
... Yes. And it lacks explanation. ... No. Perceptions are concretes. ... Yes, they are similar to emotions. And like emotions, they lack explanation. ... No...
There are two types of ideas: those that do take the form of explanations and those that don't. Right? -- Rami [Non-text portions of this message have been...
... No. But once the reasons for an emotion are explained, then the emotion no longer exists. So while an emotion exists, i.e. while someone is having an...
... Thats wrong. My explanation only makes sense for negative emotions like anger, sadness, worry. Positive emotions like happiness don't subside when the...
Reading _Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology_ (Chapter 3): Rand said that there are concretes and concepts. And that concepts are of two types: perceptual...
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Jun 20, 2012 6:38 pm
... If you are aware that computationalism makes physics a branch of arithmetic, you can indeed argue that concretes are ideas. That makes sense. Concretes are...
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Jun 20, 2012 6:39 pm
... Why would an explanation for an emotion makes it necessarily disappear? That can be true perhaps for some type of emotion, but not in general. I can even...
... Its not, as I explained in my next post. That can be true perhaps for some type of emotion, but not in general. ... I think so. Would an explanation of the...
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Jun 21, 2012 5:03 pm
... Does this not contradict what you just said above? ... Well, we agree apparently. ... Is is not a lived experience? It might have a cognitive function, but...
... Yes. Thats why I said "Thats wrong," where "that" was my previous explanation. ... Ok. Whats the difference? ... Why not? ... Lets consider a hypothetical....
... i don't see the value in saying that. is this trying to solve an organizational problem? can you clarify the problem? ... the generic answer is: think...
... it's an old joke (the number we call "two" is written as "10" in binary). but with a point: there are many ways to categorize explanations. -- Elliot...
... She could use "concretes" to refer to *ideas about concretes* (e.g. knowing that your room has a door). Or it can refer to the fact that your room has a...
... Ya I got the 1, 0 binary thing but didn't see the point. How about this? Some ideas are logical and some aren't. Like Rand's perceptual concepts are not...
... How can you both "get" the joke and simultaneously not "see the point"? Doesn't a joke contain its own reason? Namely, it's funny. Unless you don't get it,...
... Elliot's main point was that there are many ways to categorize explanations. This part I didn't get. The 1, 0 binary thing I got. Thats why I thought it...
... Actually, that's not true. You might get the joke and yet not find it funny. This might determine the differene between good and bad jokes. Can jokes be...
... Still unclear. I perceive an object. I identify it as a table. The table is a concrete. But the table is not an idea. The *fact* that I identify that...
... If my joke makes more people laugh than your joke, then I would say mine is objectively better. A better criteria might be related to memes. If my joke...
... Popularity is not objectivity. ... This is a matter of popularity again. ... Why would better by defined as popular? ... No, it means joke-appreciation is...
... Dumb idea. Its based on a bad meme. ... Ok. I think I don't understand subjectivity then. I thought that something is subjective if it is dependent on a...
... In order to accomplish what? What is the problem? ... Can you now CPF better? What good does this subsuming concept do? What problem(s) are you trying to...