... Would this mean that in curved space momentum measurements still yield a definite momentum value but the momentum wavefunction is always a superposition of...
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Scott Dalton
isddlnc@...
Nov 4, 2000 4:28 pm
(Subject was "Ye Ol' Fourier is dead?") My understanding is that the multiverse is objective in the sense that all possible observer/measurement "outcome"...
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Konrad Swart
mindxtnd@...
Nov 5, 2000 1:04 am
Hi, folks. I have read the book of David Deutsch about a year ago. I found it a fantastic book, except for one thing. I do not buy this 'multiverse' bit. And...
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Martin Thompson
martin@...
Nov 5, 2000 10:27 pm
13:47:54 Thu, 26 Oct 2000 ... But only if you hold that same belief in every possible world. There would seem to be no reason why a person's moral belief...
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Martin Thompson
martin@...
Nov 5, 2000 10:27 pm
09:58:42 Mon, 30 Oct 2000 Jerzy Karczmarczuk at Jerzy Karczmarczuk <karczma@...> ... It occurs to me to wonder why the universes have to split...
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Robin Green
greenrd@...
Nov 6, 2000 1:09 am
... I think that's what Deutsch was trying to say in FOR. Although it's very misleading to call that "splitting" so probably he wouldn't call it that. ...
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Russell Standish
R.Standish@...
Nov 6, 2000 1:09 am
... Apparently there is a difference between having histories split, and having multiple histories that are identical prior to diverging at some point. Its...
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Russell Standish
R.Standish@...
Nov 6, 2000 1:10 am
... Why should the conservation of energy even be meaningful across the Multiverse? About the only rule that seems to hold is conservation of probability....
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Russell Standish
R.Standish@...
Nov 6, 2000 1:10 am
... I don't disagree with what you say, however, these are different pictures of the same thing. The wavefunction is only defined once an initial condition is...
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Scott Dalton
isddlnc@...
Nov 6, 2000 2:43 pm
Here are a few of David Deutsch's words (1997) regarding splitting: <http://hotwired.lycos.com/synapse/braintennis/97/41/index0a.html> "...in an absolute sense...
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Konrad Swart
mindxtnd@...
Nov 6, 2000 2:46 pm
Dear Russell, Thank you for going into my argument. ... I do not get this. Probability does not exist in the multiverse. In fact, the whole multiverse...
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Russell Standish
R.Standish@...
Nov 7, 2000 1:05 am
... Everything exists, but this doesn't mean the concept of probability is of no use. Perhaps all it means is that the "lay" understanding of probability...
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Konrad Swart
mindxtnd@...
Nov 7, 2000 3:48 am
Dear Russell, Again, thank you for going into my argument. ... But then, again, it seems to me that there is a confusion between existence and measurement. Of...
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Russell Standish
R.Standish@...
Nov 7, 2000 4:35 am
... That may be, however, the very formalism of QM is of this nature - a deterministic Schroedinger equation. The interpretation bit is how you get...
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Jerzy Karczmarczuk
karczma@...
Nov 7, 2000 4:40 am
... === Not necessarily a misunderstanding, but a provocation anyway. I began ... If somebody says that this splitting is observer-dependent, I have nothing...
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Stephen Paul King
stephenk1@...
Nov 7, 2000 4:46 am
Dear Konrad, Just a word of praise from a lurker. This is brilliant post! Thank you for writing it! Kindest regards, Stephen ... snip...
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Gary S. Bekkum
gbekkum@...
Nov 7, 2000 3:17 pm
Interesting thoughts from Konrad Stewart - reminds me of Penrose's noncomputability arguments for consciousness....
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Russell Standish
R.Standish@...
Nov 7, 2000 3:18 pm
... To set the record straight, I believe the former clause is true (the observer is split along with the universes). Now, just because physics might be...
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Jerzy Karczmarczuk
karczma@...
Nov 7, 2000 4:11 pm
I don't want to engage in the discussion between Russel Standish and Konrad Swart, there is too much metaphysics in both of you :-) [[I mean that you are both...
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ettinger@...
Nov 7, 2000 6:36 pm
... necessary >condition for any physical vision to 'make sense' Strict determinism is "metaphysical" in the sense that there seems no definitive way to prove...
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Konrad Swart
mindxtnd@...
Nov 8, 2000 4:12 am
* Dear Jerzy Karczmarczuk, * Reply KS:Thank you for your physics lesson. I will go into it now. ... * Reply KS: What does this mean? Is it a form of friendly...
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Jerzy Karczmarczuk
karczma@...
Nov 8, 2000 2:52 pm
OK, my last comments on that... I mentioned the Casimir effect: a weak force between *neutral* conductors, which may be successfully modelled by the variations...
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Jerzy Karczmarczuk
karczma@...
Nov 8, 2000 2:54 pm
... OH, OH, MY GOODNESS!!!!!!! What a silly misunderstanding... Sorry! I wanted to say: Since the inflation model puts our sector of space into a quasi-flat...
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Jerzy Karczmarczuk
karczma@...
Nov 8, 2000 2:55 pm
This time something to Konrad Swart. I begin with his recent posting, where he asks me about: ... By no means. Metaphysics for me meant simply: you are...
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Konrad Swart
mindxtnd@...
Nov 8, 2000 2:58 pm
Thank you, Robert, for going into my e-mail. ... necessary >condition for any physical vision to 'make sense' Robert: Strict determinism is "metaphysical" in...
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Jerzy Karczmarczuk
karczma@...
Nov 8, 2000 5:20 pm
... Let's have a deal. I will not argue against "more or less" existence (although I see no reason to accept it), but I ask you humbly not to play with physics...
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Konrad Swart
mindxtnd@...
Nov 8, 2000 9:25 pm
Dear Jerzy * It is clear to me, that you are obviously more schooled in physics than I am. I feel honored that you have given my e-mails the time and attention...
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Konrad Swart
mindxtnd@...
Nov 8, 2000 9:25 pm
... From: jerzy [mailto:jerzy]On Behalf Of Jerzy Karczmarczuk Sent: woensdag 8 november 2000 18:23 To: Fabric-of-Reality@egroups.com Subject: Re: Existence and...
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Marchal
marchal@...
Nov 10, 2000 10:16 pm
... With MWI your conjecture is a theorem. With MWI, decoherence *is* splitting ! (or differentiation in Deutsch's view (and probably mine too)). In fact:...
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martin abramson
abram@...
Nov 10, 2000 10:23 pm
Dear Konrad: I guess my common sense mind is missing the point, but you seem to be rejecting the multiverse in the first excerpt and accepting it in the...
