... Yes ... No. Regardless of what the source of a conjecture is, it could be contradicted by data if it makes any empirical/scientific claims. ... I am saying...
19675
Bruno Marchal
marchal@...
Feb 1, 2011 11:14 pm
... ? ... Leading then to another conjecture. This new one fall a ittle less from the sky, and takes into account the data. I remind you that I take an absence...
19676
John Clark
johnkclark
Feb 1, 2011 11:17 pm
... I doubt if your iPod has ideas, but it uses induction. ... Without induction you wouldn't know what things you should even bother making wild guesses...
19677
John Clark
johnkclark
Feb 1, 2011 11:17 pm
... It's not even false because it depends entirely on how good the ends are and how bad the means are. John K Clark [Non-text portions of this message have...
19678
Elliot Temple
curi42
Feb 1, 2011 11:17 pm
... -- Elliot Temple http://curi.us/...
19679
hibbsa
Feb 1, 2011 11:18 pm
... what is boring is not a ... soluble, is soluble. ... constructor-theoretic direction: It must be the case that the only insuperable obstacles to...
19680
Alan Forrester
alan_forrester2
Feb 1, 2011 11:29 pm
Hallo inductivists, I was wondering if one of you could answer the following question. What problem does induction solve and how does it solve it? Alan...
19681
Elliot Temple
curi42
Feb 2, 2011 11:11 am
... Yes, conjectures "fall from the sky" as you described it. That is a fine description; I was agreeing. It doesn't matter where you get them. They do not...
19682
Elliot Temple
curi42
Feb 2, 2011 11:11 am
... You're absolutely right that the genes do not contain a list of all possible inputs and a list of outputs and a mapping. It's not just a big long list. ...
19683
Elliot Temple
curi42
Feb 2, 2011 11:11 am
... In general more complex problems have MORE solution paths b/c there are more possible places to begin which are relevant. -- Elliot Temple ...
19684
Peter D
peterdjones
Feb 2, 2011 9:10 pm
... So you say "The search for a ˜Theory of Everything is the quest for an ultimate compression of the world. Interestingly, Chaitins proof of Godels...
19685
Peter D
peterdjones
Feb 2, 2011 9:11 pm
... I've answered this before. Having started with a set of candidate theories, and rejected some of them, inductivists can make a further selection amongst ...
19686
hibbsa
Feb 2, 2011 9:11 pm
... the ... contributes ... that ... complex ... are more possible places to begin which are relevant. ... Yes you're right. So if reality has simple enough...
19687
Peter D
peterdjones
Feb 2, 2011 9:12 pm
... But we don't get to actually stop using theories where we have no better substitutes, and we need a theory for practical reasons. There goes your boolean:...
19688
Peter D
peterdjones
Feb 2, 2011 9:12 pm
... Ie implausibility. But the usual nature of logical negation does not apply, and lack of implausibility is not plausibility....
19689
Peter D
peterdjones
Feb 2, 2011 9:12 pm
... It may have no official place, but if you can't do without it, you are going to have to disguise it. ... ie, "Stop criticising". Well I won't."...
19690
Peter D
peterdjones
Feb 2, 2011 9:12 pm
... You keep failing to say what they are instead, which I consider evasive....
19691
Peter D
peterdjones
Feb 2, 2011 9:13 pm
... The criticism is that there is no motivation to believe it. ... Then it doesn't work. The number of theories that can be rationally held is much smaller...
19692
Peter D
peterdjones
Feb 2, 2011 9:21 pm
... Fine. The criticism and lack thereof change levels of plausibility....
19693
Peter D
peterdjones
Feb 2, 2011 9:21 pm
... It is an explanation (of JFK's death). But an implausible one....
19694
John Clark
johnkclark
Feb 2, 2011 9:22 pm
... Problem: How can I compress a picture of absolutely anything, except for a picture of white noise? Solution: Make use of induction; that is to say make use...
19695
Peter D
peterdjones
Feb 2, 2011 9:23 pm
... There are still differences between theory and data. You comment is irrelevant. ... So your tentative rejection of the theory that JFK was assassinated by...
19696
Peter D
peterdjones
Feb 2, 2011 9:23 pm
... It was a good plausible theory superseded by a better more plausible theory. (Remember, it is not just that Newton mispredicts: Einstein makes a series of...
19697
Elliot Temple
curi42
Feb 2, 2011 9:24 pm
... The motivation to accept theories is that knowledge is useful. ... Do you have an example, counterexample or argument? ... -- Elliot Temple ...
19698
Elliot Temple
curi42
Feb 2, 2011 9:25 pm
... They are non-refuted theories. They are nothing special. In my worldview, they have no special status. My worldview doesn't rely on giving special status...
19699
Elliot Temple
curi42
Feb 2, 2011 9:25 pm
... We can and should stop using all refuted theories. Doing otherwise is irrational. You've disregarded the next part (below) which says we can always create...
19700
Elliot Temple
curi42
Feb 2, 2011 9:25 pm
... They are the same kind of thing: critical rejections of bad ideas. What's the problem? -- Elliot Temple http://fallibleideas.com/...
19701
Elliot Temple
curi42
Feb 2, 2011 9:26 pm
... This is either wrong or is using the word "compression" to mean something else. There are known theoretical limits on compression. ...
19702
W R
deductivist
Feb 2, 2011 9:26 pm
... Okay, yes, there are likely an infinity of sources of error. But suppose you follow the rule of inference perfectly, and all of your premises are somehow...
19703
Peter D
peterdjones
Feb 2, 2011 9:27 pm
... Probably something highly emotive that mischaracterises her opponents and misunderstands the problem....
