While not proven I think there is likely to be a very high correlation between the kind of community interactions that exist in a democratic society and the...
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Marchal
marchal@...
Jun 1, 2001 10:42 am
... I certainly agree we have strong evidence that stars and galaxies are relatively stable heroin in the most probable stories we share. But this means that...
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Doug Donaghue at 054
DDonaghue@...
Jun 1, 2001 7:31 pm
Howdy Folks, ... It also advances by (if you'll excuse the expression) quantum leaps within a society that is engaged in War (or under the threat, real or...
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Lee Corbin
lcorbin@...
Jun 1, 2001 7:47 pm
Gary Oberbrunner wrote ... What do you think of my scenario ... Moreover, I think that I don't understand exactly why you find such a being, even in our 3D...
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Lee Corbin
lcorbin@...
Jun 1, 2001 7:47 pm
... Suppose that some random programmers are corraled off the street and each writes a little snippet of computer code, and then I get hold of the whole thing....
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Lee Corbin
lcorbin@...
Jun 1, 2001 8:04 pm
Bruno Marchal wrote ... Let's simply by approaching the MWI "one universe at a time"! If there were just two universes that slipped and slided within and...
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Lee Corbin
lcorbin@...
Jun 1, 2001 8:05 pm
... This continues a discussion in which Russell Standish was also participating. As I said then, ... Neither David Deutsch nor I (doubtless among others)...
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Marchal
marchal@...
Jun 1, 2001 8:09 pm
Saibal wrote: (complete message below for the FORers) ... But does "some universes" exists ? To tell you frankly I have a problem with the word "universe". I...
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Marchal
marchal@...
Jun 1, 2001 9:44 pm
Lee Corbin wrote ... But you are using here a first person plural ("[you and me] in the same branch") point of view. What makes you you and others others is...
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Gene
g-h@...
Jun 1, 2001 10:17 pm
... etc. ... Of course the exact nature of the political system is not the important point. It is rise of competition, free exchange of ideas, and execution ...
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Saibal Mitra
smitra@...
Jun 2, 2001 3:57 pm
... exist ... with ... of ... exists ... view. ... The Great Programmer can presumably compute certain correlations between our obserations of what we think...
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Lee Corbin
lcorbin@...
Jun 4, 2001 1:13 pm
Bruno wrote ... Only for the ease of description. I could just as easily have said "Well," says DD, "there exist an entire continuum of results, in some of...
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Charles Goodwin
cgoodwin@...
Jun 4, 2001 9:55 pm
... It's a possible mechanism for the predictor in Newcomb's paradox, which we may as well call the "common cause" mechanism. The point in analysing Newcomb's ...
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Charles Goodwin
cgoodwin@...
Jun 4, 2001 9:56 pm
... What have drugs got to do with this? ... I've heard of this. I think there is a web page somewhere with this proof on it, which used to be in my...
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Russell Standish
R.Standish@...
Jun 5, 2001 2:22 am
That's probably a fair call. Of interest of course, is any scenario where knowledge of the MWI actually changes one's moral outcome. One should clearly state...
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Charles Goodwin
cgoodwin@...
Jun 5, 2001 2:24 am
... Ursula Le Guin's answer to this is "The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas" See for example http://www.georgetown.edu/student-programs/readers/11lance.htm ...
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Charles Goodwin
cgoodwin@...
Jun 5, 2001 2:25 am
... I have deja vu about this. We've discussed it before - what do we mean by "same" ? The answer comes in 2 parts: (1) Things that are REALLY the same are...
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Lee Corbin
lcorbin@...
Jun 6, 2001 1:06 am
Charles writes ... N's P is ... about a ... cause ... one ... Sorry for asking again, but I may be a little confused. Would you try answering again? Suppose...
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Lee Corbin
lcorbin@...
Jun 6, 2001 1:07 am
Russell Standish writes ... I think that you mean, "actually changes one's moral choice". Have any examples? Does anyone on this list? That is, ones are not...
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Liz Reid&Errol Streln...
lizanderrol@...
Jun 6, 2001 1:07 am
Be democracy as it may, have you read Freeman Dyson on the perhaps unfortunate synergy between rampant capitalism and the ability to create technology to...
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Marchal
marchal@...
Jun 6, 2001 1:08 am
... I have no problem (at least not in this context) with the existence of an objective (third person) description. I am just indicating that in each group of...
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Charles Goodwin
cgoodwin@...
Jun 6, 2001 1:38 am
A rather dubious example (imo) is given by Larry Niven in "All the myriad ways" in which knowledge of the MWI* leads people to become less moral - at least, a ...
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Charles Goodwin
cgoodwin@...
Jun 6, 2001 1:40 am
... No, of course not. (However my views on Newcomb's paradox aren't altered by this - see my previous email.) Charles...
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Russell Standish
R.Standish@...
Jun 6, 2001 1:41 am
I gave two examples a year or so ago, that actually depend on QTI (Quantum Theory of Immortality). QTI is a corollory of the MWI, depending also on an...
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DJ White
dj@...
Jun 6, 2001 2:38 am
... At the point you actually accept MWI as the most tenable "way things are", ie that in a multiverse sense there are myriad unseen others just as 'real' as...
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Charles Goodwin
cgoodwin@...
Jun 6, 2001 2:40 am
Heh heh. Still, maybe that's better than what most fictional invaders from space have tried to do. Also, with any luck their idea of "rare and valuable ...
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Charles Goodwin
cgoodwin@...
Jun 6, 2001 2:41 am
... In what sense do "I" have an infinite lifespan according to the MWI? Is it because if you sum the lifespans of the (presumably infinite) numbers of copies ...
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Russell Standish
R.Standish@...
Jun 6, 2001 3:34 am
I think it is best that I refer you to the copious material written about the "Quantum Theory of Immortality" in the "everything list" ...
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Lee Corbin
lcorbin@...
Jun 6, 2001 3:35 am
... The ET capable of doing that is welcome to them, in my opinion. The important thing is, what is it going to do to tiny amount of living matter supporting...
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Lee Corbin
lcorbin@...
Jun 6, 2001 12:16 pm
... I have yet to be convinced exactly how, or if, you are right, here. ... Examples? Either real or plausible will do. Lee Corbin...
