... My point was actually that the idea is meaningless anyway. I've never come across a definition of FW that makes sense given *any* laws of physics (any ...
... OK, this gets back to a semi-discussed point made some posts back - so I'll bite. Large nations seem to behave intelligently (at least those that are not...
Le 30-mars-05, à 19:21, Peter D Jones wrote in many posts (I answer in one post by charity for mail boxes) ... This is an hard and subtle question at the...
Bruno Marchal
marchal@...
Apr 1, 2005 11:26 am
10540
... I agree. In particular if the universe (in case that exists) is finite, then my brain is finite and the proof of the finiteness of the universe could as...
Bruno Marchal
marchal@...
Apr 1, 2005 11:27 am
10541
Igor B <igorbivor@...> retorts: ->>Not necessarily. IF the universe is finite, it only takes (in principle) ->>a finite amount of evidence to verify...
Bill Taylor
W.Taylor@...
Apr 1, 2005 11:28 am
10542
Peter writes ... I like that. I adopt that. Thanks. ... I probably would still think that the notion of "could have done differently" worth salvaging---if we...
Lee Corbin
lcorbin@...
Apr 1, 2005 11:28 am
10543
Peter writes ... As Brian said above, the virtual machine *does* feel pain. Tell'im why, Brian! :-) Lee P.S. How does Peter know for certain that *he's* not...
Lee Corbin
lcorbin@...
Apr 1, 2005 11:29 am
10544
Peter writes ... No, I'm not quite so bold to claim that complex calculation plus passing the Turing Test is *necessarily* always sufficient. It seems to me...
Lee Corbin
lcorbin@...
Apr 1, 2005 11:29 am
10545
... Well, it's possible to show that the surface of the earth is finite. One can imagine a universe in which that was true, e.g. a relatively small ...
... act as ... human (and ... information? ... We don't know if that is even possible, let alone easy.Qualia and subjectivity may be inevitable adjuncts to...
Yes, we invented mathematics to explain (what we experience as) the physical world. To me the fact that mathematics is so successful suggests that there must...
... But I am not ALWAYS conscious, I'm not when I'm sleeping deeply, or under anesthesia, or dead; you can tell when I am in those states by my behavior, in...
... I would certainly treat it as if it were conscious, of course I couldn't know for a fact that it was , just as I don't know for a fact that you are...
... Searle showed that the little man, a tiny trivial part of the system, was not conscious of Chinese, he proved nothing else. ... Yes but I am also a part...
... Maybe I missed that you were talking specifically about a flatland universe. Even so my skepticism persists. These flatlanders could catalogue the *known*...
[UV] ... [Gordon] The problem is that Penrose's argument for the collapse postulate presupposes that there is a fundamental reason for excepting preferred ...
June Shjppey
jshippey@...
Apr 1, 2005 10:21 pm
10553
... I'd love to tell you, but I don't converse with brains in vats ;-)...
... consciousness ? ... But, as someone pointed out, there is still the problem that any complex computer can be emulated by a GLUT. So if a complex computer...
Igor B <igorbivor@...> implicitly agrees while quibbling: ->to pick an example, if there were wormholes with microscopic mouths leading ->off to an...
Bill Taylor
W.Taylor@...
Apr 2, 2005 12:36 pm
10557
... Sorry, no! In the case of finity v. infinity an epistemic argument is dispositive. Consider QT . On one hand, we have QFT. Its fundamental ontological ...
... Weeeeeeeeell . . . . . . I must admit that wasn't what I *thought* you were saying. I thought you were saying that although the statement "the universe is...
Brian writes ... Thanks for taking the time to spell out that argument. For just the reasons you give, I cannot dismiss out of hand the possibility that...
Lee Corbin
lcorbin@...
Apr 2, 2005 10:53 pm
10560
Peter writes ... I am worried that you missed the qualifiers in my sentence. I draw your attention to the parts "highly intelligent" and "interactive". Lee...
Lee Corbin
lcorbin@...
Apr 2, 2005 10:54 pm
10561
Gary writes ... Of course a Turing Machine performs a computation. As you know (but for the benefit of some others) the *state* of a Turing machine is...
Lee Corbin
lcorbin@...
Apr 2, 2005 10:54 pm
10562
Le 01-avr.-05, à 14:27, Saibal Mitra answers to Nicole, ... I agree. It looks like Nicole confuses also a mathematical reality/object, like a group or a...
Bruno Marchal
marchal@...
Apr 2, 2005 10:54 pm
10563
... If it performs no computations how can this thing find what it is looking for in that huge lookup table? John K Clark...
Igor writes ... Yes, physicists are hyper-aware of the conjectural nature of all knowledge. A good physicist, for example, realizes that while it appears that...
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