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Re: Cultural Marxism



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> > > But if no government would do it, then it can't happen.
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> > Some political parties are in favour of the idea, so it could happen.
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> Who's in favour of abolishing wages and replacing them with shares?
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I said "part payment" not "abolition".

http://www.libdemvoice.org/opinion-employee-share-ownership-is-classic-liberalis\
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Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:24 am

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Are there any parallels between the culture/society relevant findings of this philosophy and the findings of cultural marxism? "Cultural Marxism is a term...
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... Who's in favour of abolishing wages and replacing them with shares?...
tomegalovlito Offline Send Email Feb 14, 2012
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... I said "part payment" not "abolition". http://www.libdemvoice.org/opinion-employee-share-ownership-is-classic-liberalism-26629.html...
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... You mean giving them some shares on top of their regular salary? They already do that in Japan. It doesn't change a thing. The workers just get a bit of...
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