The FT817 Group averages over 500 (+/-130 one-sigma) messages
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follow. Most of you do so already.

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http://www.southgatearc.org/news/jan2005/g0ftd_mobile.htm

Interesting and convenient way to tote the 817, tuner, battery and antenna
around....

i have a ft817nd for sale comes with a mfj1899-t hf antenna

a comet tri band 6-2-440 antenna

PRICE IS 600 SHIPPED NO TRADES FT817ND IS ONLY 3 MONTHS OLD

ALSO HAS ALUMINUM TRAVEL BOX FOR IT EXTRA COAX ADAPTERS ECT

RADIO IS NON SMOKER
73 FROM KB9LNC

BYRON

All,

   Could someone please remind me of the button sequence to reset the
FT-817 ?  I can not seem to find it in the manual.

73
Gene K1NR

All,

    I may be applying for membership in the blown finals club.   No
apparent power out in the HF bands SSB, or CW.

    Does anyone know how much Yaesu is getting for the repair these
days ?

How about turn-around time ?

Thanks,

    Gene K1NR

Be aware that if you have NORMAL power out on 2 meters and 430-450 mhz,  your
finals are GOOD so far!   You may have selected the wrong antenna  port, or a
relay could be bad. While testing, use the 2 1/2 watt or lower  settings, to
reduce the chance you will blow them.
  Remember, the SAME finals are used for ALL bands in the FT-817, so if
UHF/VHF is OK, look elsewhere for your problem.  (Incorrect  application/access
of
the "Hidden Menu" can also cause this.---73,  KC3VO-Bob


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> Does anyone know how much Yaesu is getting for the repair these
> days ?

Mine cost $108 (including return shipping) back in February.

> How about turn-around time ?

They had the radio for two or three days. Shipping each way (PA to CA
and back) took about a week.

Steve
W3HF

It seems that the relays in my radio have somehow died... (or the
circuty that powers them rather.)

A few months ago my finals got blown .. i orderd and replaced,and
aligned the new PA .. worked like a champ.

Now after not using the radio for a couple of days, I turned it on..
When pressing the PTT the TX/RX lamp turns red. but the tx/rx relay
does not move... nor does the bandfilter switches/relays when i
change band ... and not the antenna relay either.

Last time .. when PAs blew .. the situation was almost the same...
I have checked the PA transistors this time and they seem to be ok.

Have anyone of you experienced this ?

                    73s de Mike LA6IMA

What is the VOLTAGE you are using?  Is it remaining above 8 volts,
(Preferably above 9 volts) when transmission is attempted?  Use a good  external
digital meter to check the voltage, NOT the FT-817 meter.  If the  voltage is,
or
goes low, it is normal to have relays fail to operate, and the  CURE is to use
higher operating voltage. (10-14 volts works great, DO NOT use  more than 16
volts!)--KC3VO, Bob


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--- In FT817@yahoogroups.com, kc3vo@a... wrote:
> What is the VOLTAGE you are using?  Is it remaining above 8 volts,
> (Preferably above 9 volts) when transmission is attempted?  Use a
good  external
> digital meter to check the voltage, NOT the FT-817 meter.  If the
voltage is, or
> goes low, it is normal to have relays fail to operate, and the
CURE is to use
> higher operating voltage. (10-14 volts works great, DO NOT use
more than 16
> volts!)--KC3VO, Bob

The voltage is 13.8V, -+0.1V at TX the PSU is a mascot 5A switched
PSU. i recently switched to this PSU after using it on another radio
for many years without any problem.

The problem is that none of the relays in the radio work, and this
at RX aswell.

I just found the schematics and gonna take a look, if i only would
know the testpoint voltages, the schematics i have seem not to
mention that·

                            73s de  Mike - LA6IMA






>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Brand new and never used. Was charged when I first got my FT-817ND in
accordance with instructions.

Asking $45.0 shipped in lower 48
Thanks.

John...
South Island Real Estate
Melbourne Beach, FL
johndorson AT bellsouth.net

The loop has been spoken for. Thanks.

John...

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Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 3:56 PM
Subject: [FT817] FS: FNB-85


> Brand new and never used. Was charged when I first got my FT-817ND in
> accordance with instructions.
>
> Asking $45.0 shipped in lower 48
> Thanks.
>
> John...
> South Island Real Estate
> Melbourne Beach, FL
> johndorson AT bellsouth.net
>
>
>
> and for a great FAQ ( Frequently Asked Questions ) see
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FT817/database
> Some really good technical info at:
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Wondering if any one knows the specs on a Tokyo Hy-Power labs HF amp,
Model HL200E, I think this is a fairly old one, tried searching on
the net but can't get any reference, my main concern is band
switchable filtering, I'm wondering did Tokyo Hi-power produce a early
model HF amp without band filtering.

   Dave VK3FDT.

Amendement to my original enquiry on HL200E amp.
After thinking I'll Email Tokyo Hy-power amps, but wondering would
they reply to such an enquiry I'm more than pleased to say I did get
a reply within less than one hour, advising that this amp was mainly
for CB and mobile use with many harmonics at frequencies lower than
28mhz.
I'll reply to them again with my appreciation of their fast response.

  Dave VK3FDT

Was wondering if any body out there had a good condition early model B3
that they may like to swap for a new ND B3.
My early model was stolen last year and I just got a new one. I used to
use this radio extensively out of band and the new model just doesnt
have the coverage I need.
I'm currently residing in Australia.
If interested please e-mail me direct eric_fre@...

Thx

I have an early model in like new condition.
Not sure about the B3, what does that refer to.
Also are the ham bands the same as Canada?
Shipping cost might be another problem.

Dave
VE3ZZY


----- Original Message -----
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To: <FT817@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 1:42 AM
Subject: [FT817] Any body interested in swapping a new ND B3 for early model
B3


> Was wondering if any body out there had a good condition early model B3
> that they may like to swap for a new ND B3.
> My early model was stolen last year and I just got a new one. I used to
> use this radio extensively out of band and the new model just doesnt
> have the coverage I need.
> I'm currently residing in Australia.
> If interested please e-mail me direct eric_fre@...
>
> Thx
>
>
>
>
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press HOME then POWER ON .all reset!

hamradio1012000 <eugeneb@...> wrote:All,

   Could someone please remind me of the button sequence to reset the
FT-817 ?  I can not seem to find it in the manual.

73
Gene K1NR




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Hi All,

Have now got my new 817 and was playing around with it over the
weekend.  One thing that I did notice was that the SWR produced with
the supplied rubber duckie was pretty high.

I would have thought that a factory supplied part would be pretty well
on the money.

The worse case senario was on 6 meters where saw 5 bars.

Is this to be expected or am I asking too much ?

Pete VK4CCV

It is in the back of the manual, describes both reset procedures. It
is one of the last pages, can't rember right of the top of my head.

Michael, KE5EUA

--- In FT817@yahoogroups.com, chang yu <scidzy_gz@y...> wrote:
> press HOME then POWER ON .all reset!
>
> hamradio1012000 <eugeneb@n...> wrote:All,
>
>   Could someone please remind me of the button sequence to reset
the
> FT-817 ?  I can not seem to find it in the manual.
>
> 73
> Gene K1NR
>
>
>
>
> and for a great FAQ ( Frequently Asked Questions ) see
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--- In FT817@yahoogroups.com, "hamradio1012000" <eugeneb@n...> wrote:
> All,
>
>   Could someone please remind me of the button sequence to reset the
> FT-817 ?  I can not seem to find it in the manual.
>
> 73
> Gene K1NR

Gene,

Look in the FAQ.  Often one needs to perform the service reset, which
is  not in the manual.   With PWR OFF, hold F + V/M buttons while
turning ON PWR.  Should hear 3 diddles.

73,
Barry W4WB

I think you said it pretty well there......

Mine has not been on the radio since the first day I opened the box.
I didn't see it do much beyond act as a dummy load. I have found
several good whips that perform much better.  My FT-60 rubber duck
performs better on 2M than the one that came with the 817.

Actually, I don't even remember what box I tossed it in :)

Jay KE5FDO


--- In FT817@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Moscatt" <pmoscatt@y...> wrote:

> Is this to be expected or am I asking too much ?
>
> Pete VK4CCV

Thanks Jay,

Can you point me in a direction where I can
invesitgate potential replacements (6-2-70cm) ?


Best Regards
Pete VK4CCV


--- jayc_tx <jacox@...> wrote:

> Mine has not been on the radio since the first day I
> opened the box.


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Hi all, I've been a lurker for a long time.

I recently replaced the finals board on my '817, thanks all for the
great posts and links to 'hand holding ' ;) info that was very
useful in changing out the board.

Now I have a 'spare' board - have any of you ventured to replace the
FET's on a final board? I haven't found any FAQ or links to any
information on changing out the FET's themselves.

Anyone have any info on that? 'upgrades' to the funal / alternate
transistors, etc?

When I called Yeasu to order the final board, the guy told me there
were only about 35 of them left, and that they were not going to do
another run. I know knowlege varies from one tech to another on that
sort of thing, wonder if anyone could verify that?

If that is truly the case, then I want to be able to change to FET's
on this 'spare' board for sure.

This is a great group to lurk, if I've missed something obvious I
apologize in advance.

Tracy N4LGH

>
> Hi All,
>
> Have now got my new 817 and was playing around with it over the
> weekend.  One thing that I did notice was that the SWR produced with
> the supplied rubber duckie was pretty high.
>
> I would have thought that a factory supplied part would be pretty well
> on the money.
>
> The worse case senario was on 6 meters where saw 5 bars.
>
> Is this to be expected or am I asking too much ?
>

Hi Pete,

I've found the SWR on 2 & 70 to be perfectly reasonable.  Due to the
small size of the rig, it does help if you have a hand resting on the
case - or on 6m ideally a small length of wire attached to the back of
the rig.

Remember most hand held radios use the operator's body as a ground
plane / counterpoise.  The FT817 is essentially the same size - but
there's no guarantee you're in physical contact to 'balance' the
antenna.

I think you should see a reduction in SWR with the supplied antenna if
you provide some form of counterpoise - I do with mine.

I do agree with the others though - the supplied rubber helicals are
somewhat inefficient, but then they are small and portable.   I make
good use of them - but agree they won't win any performance awards.

I made a portable multiband dipole for 6/2/70 - essentially a fan
dipole covering the three bands, but with the elements running
parallel.   This is easy to do using PC 'ribbon' cable - just split
the conductors into 3 sets, chop appropriately for 1/2 wave on the 3
bands, attach string to ends - and then string up horizontally /
vertically when portable and you have a pretty decent performing
antenna which rolls up and fits in a pocket when not in use :)

73's

de M0SPN (Steve)

--
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>
> Now I have a 'spare' board - have any of you ventured to replace the
> FET's on a final board? I haven't found any FAQ or links to any
> information on changing out the FET's themselves.
>
> Anyone have any info on that? 'upgrades' to the funal / alternate
> transistors, etc?
>

I've considered doing the same.  I'd have thought the 817 had enough
space internally for some non-surface mount FET's - and hopefully this
would make it slightly more robust!   However, I've not had time to
investigate further.

> When I called Yeasu to order the final board, the guy told me there
> were only about 35 of them left, and that they were not going to do
> another run. I know knowlege varies from one tech to another on that
> sort of thing, wonder if anyone could verify that?
>

I can't see that being true, as the 817 is still in production, and
most companies supply spares for a good few years after production
ceases.   It's such a popular radio I can't see production halting
anytime soon.

However, if there's any truth in what you heard, it would be very
worrying indeed.

> If that is truly the case, then I want to be able to change to FET's
> on this 'spare' board for sure.
>

Too right!

> This is a great group to lurk, if I've missed something obvious I
> apologize in advance.
>

I don't think you've missed anything obvious - and 'upgrading' the
FET's must have gone through many peoples minds.  I don't recall anyone
having done it though - but this might perhaps be to the low cost of
the finals board.   Cost vs hassle :)

If there are ever problems with suplly of replacement finals - I'm sure
someone will come up with a solution.   There's too many of these
radios in circulation to just be consigned to the trash.

However, I can't see Yaesu causing a parts shortage - as the finals
boards are required for the continual production of the 817.   I'm not
sure if they have production runs purely as 'spares' - but ... even so
it doesn't make much sense.

I hope your tech guy was just misinformed :)

73's

de M0SPN (Steve)

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G'Day Steve,

Yea, you have some very valid thoughts which I had
thought of.  On saying that, I'm off to give it a go.
:-)

Best Regards
Pete VK4CCV


--- Steve M0SPN <steve@...>
wrote:

> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Have now got my new 817 and was playing around
> with it over the
> > weekend.  One thing that I did notice was that the
> SWR produced with
> > the supplied rubber duckie was pretty high.
> >
> > I would have thought that a factory supplied part
> would be pretty well
> > on the money.
> >
> > The worse case senario was on 6 meters where saw 5
> bars.
> >
> > Is this to be expected or am I asking too much ?
> >
>
> Hi Pete,
>
> I've found the SWR on 2 & 70 to be perfectly
> reasonable.  Due to the
> small size of the rig, it does help if you have a
> hand resting on the
> case - or on 6m ideally a small length of wire
> attached to the back of
> the rig.
>
> Remember most hand held radios use the operator's
> body as a ground
> plane / counterpoise.  The FT817 is essentially the
> same size - but
> there's no guarantee you're in physical contact to
> 'balance' the
> antenna.
>
> I think you should see a reduction in SWR with the
> supplied antenna if
> you provide some form of counterpoise - I do with
> mine.
>
> I do agree with the others though - the supplied
> rubber helicals are
> somewhat inefficient, but then they are small and
> portable.   I make
> good use of them - but agree they won't win any
> performance awards.
>
> I made a portable multiband dipole for 6/2/70 -
> essentially a fan
> dipole covering the three bands, but with the
> elements running
> parallel.   This is easy to do using PC 'ribbon'
> cable - just split
> the conductors into 3 sets, chop appropriately for
> 1/2 wave on the 3
> bands, attach string to ends - and then string up
> horizontally /
> vertically when portable and you have a pretty
> decent performing
> antenna which rolls up and fits in a pocket when not
> in use :)
>
> 73's
>
> de M0SPN (Steve)
>
> --
> Amateur Radio UK:- http://www.aruk.org.uk
>


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Being in the military I get plenty of use of my 817 as a portable and
I use my supplied rubber ducky. I have found that my swr on 2 meters
is fairly good, like to go from 0 to 2 on occasion, but 6 meters is
high. Diamond has a triband handi antena, the make a sma and a bnc
model. I came across it on HRO's site. Hope you find a decent
solution.

Michael, KE5EUA


--- In FT817@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Moscatt" <pmoscatt@y...> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Have now got my new 817 and was playing around with it over the
> weekend.  One thing that I did notice was that the SWR produced with
> the supplied rubber duckie was pretty high.
>
> I would have thought that a factory supplied part would be pretty
well
> on the money.
>
> The worse case senario was on 6 meters where saw 5 bars.
>
> Is this to be expected or am I asking too much ?
>
> Pete VK4CCV

Folks,

It appears that the Archive is not showing the more recent messages
(approaching 100).  If it doesn't clear up, I will contact Yahoo!
tomorrow to check on it.

73,
Barry W4WB
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Can you just buy the Heil Clearspeech at

http://www.heilsound.com/amateur/clear_speech_speaker.htm

and get the same dsp stuff an not go into the FT-817?
Can be used for other rigs too without modification...

--- jayc_tx <jacox@...> wrote:

> Thanks for all the input.  I sent the radio off
> today
> for the DSP and the speech processor.
>
> The do it yourself instructions did indeed
> appear way outside of what I am capable of.
>
> Thanks again for all the replies.
>
> Jay
> KE5FDO
>
>
>


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KI4HPZ

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A friend of mine has the clearspeech in his SUV. Make
it sound like you are next to someone if you use it.
Does is work ok with the 817 the same way?

Just curious...

--- Bill N <bnix66@...> wrote:

> Can you just buy the Heil Clearspeech at
>
>
http://www.heilsound.com/amateur/clear_speech_speaker.htm
>
> and get the same dsp stuff an not go into the
> FT-817?
> Can be used for other rigs too without
> modification...
>
> --- jayc_tx <jacox@...> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for all the input.  I sent the radio off
> > today
> > for the DSP and the speech processor.
> >
> > The do it yourself instructions did indeed
> > appear way outside of what I am capable of.
> >
> > Thanks again for all the replies.
> >
> > Jay
> > KE5FDO
> >
> >
> >
>
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> Bill
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