--- In FT817@yahoogroups.com, "Swiger, Jeffrey M." <N8NOE@C...>
wrote:
>
> Anyone Notice that the ACC jack of the FT-817 is a Macintosh
(Apple)
> Serial Jack?...

It is also the same connector used on older computer mice.

TTFN

Steve / K4AH
email - wwarthog@...

NAQCC # 0623       FPQRP # 1057
FISTS # 11287      QRPARCI # 11999
QRP-L # 555         ARRL

Be very, very careful what you put into that head,
because you will never, ever get it out.
Cardinal Wolsey (1475?-1530)

Pay attention: the mice's connector is the same, but NOT ALL wires are
connected, and normally there is no screening on that. The Mac cables are very
good ones, with heavy screening, and I recommend their use.
You may see some notes of mine in the HRD forum,
http://www.ham-radio.ch/forums/viewtopic.php?t=300
  and also
http://www.ham-radio.ch/forums/index.php?c=6
Those notes covers both 8 and 6 pins cables.
There are also keyboard and mice extensions cables available: they have all pins
connected and in my case I found a very good heavy screening braid connected to
the rings. They are far better than normal mice cables, apart for thickness and
flex.
73' de Augusto i2jjr



   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Steve
   To: FT817@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 12:04 PM
   Subject: [FT817] Re: FYI: FT-817 ACC Jack.....



   --- In FT817@yahoogroups.com, "Swiger, Jeffrey M." <N8NOE@C...>
   wrote:
   >
   > Anyone Notice that the ACC jack of the FT-817 is a Macintosh
   (Apple)
   > Serial Jack?...

   It is also the same connector used on older computer mice.

   TTFN

   Steve / K4AH
   email - wwarthog@...

   NAQCC # 0623       FPQRP # 1057
   FISTS # 11287      QRPARCI # 11999
   QRP-L # 555         ARRL

   Be very, very careful what you put into that head,
   because you will never, ever get it out.
   Cardinal Wolsey (1475?-1530)







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Just fitted a Colins narrow cw filter from Jim, K8DRN to my new
FT817ND & WOW - an already super QRP cw rig is made into a GREAT one,
hi!

Look out for me on or around all the usual QRP cw QRGs folks.
Most of my activity is (UK) evenings & weekends.  Mostly 40 & 80m
right now during evenings until propagation picks up so, hopefully be
working you boys over the pond further into the year when the higher
bands are (hopefully) still open on getting home from the saltmines,
hi!

73 from Derrick, GM4CXP.

--- In FT817@yahoogroups.com, "i2jjr" <i2jjr@h...> wrote:
> Pay attention: the mice's connector is the same, but NOT ALL wires
are connected, and normally there is no screening on that. The Mac
cables are very good ones, with heavy screening, and I recommend
their use.

Well, I didn't have any mac cables laying around.  Prefer PCs.  I
had a mouse cable and all the pins/wires were connected and it had
shielding so I was happy.  Just because it was not a mac cable does
not make it bad.  Worked for me.  I prefer stuff in my junk box if I
can use it.

--- In FT817@yahoogroups.com, "baranger1" <baranger1@a...> wrote:
>
> What are spec,s as far as what it will load?

Hi Bill,

The T1 can handle very high-SWR loads, like other wide-range ATUs based on the
L-
network configuration. To give you one example, I have a 50-foot random wire at
my QTH
that the T1 loads very effectively on 80-6 meters.

To put a number on it, the T1 will typically handle 10:1 or higher SWR, with
reduced range on 160 m.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

Hi @FT817 on yahoo !

Here my small contribution to this group. I write some article on my
web site including:

ADM817 wiring plus OPC for those icom user at:
http://f6iie.free.fr/bidouilles_opc589.html

Nice aluminium suitcase all included for FT817 plus FT Commander
software link at:
http://f6iie.free.fr/bidouilles_ft817_commander.htm

Nice 3 Amps power supply less expensive than others, power suplly
lead source (Sony connector) and home made lead wire including
ferrite filters at:
http://f6iie.free.fr/bidouilles_ft817_filtre_alim.htm

Mobile antenna support plus counterpoise ground plan in a Danish
biscuit box at:
http://f6iie.free.fr/bidouilles_contrepoids.html

Plus some other articles like HF remote switching system (4
antennas, CAT Interface for Icom including keying line and HF
Vertical ant systeme using AH4 tuner at:
http://f6iie.free.fr/bidouilles.html

These articles are in French but and very understandable. Regards at
ft-817 on yahoo. 73 de Maurice F6IIE

Hi
I am new to the list and was wondering what the difference is between
the FT817 & FT817ND?

Thanks
73 de Bob VE3XNB

60 meters is open on the ND.

On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 14:48:01 -0000
   ve3xnb@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi
> I am new to the list and was wondering what the difference is between
> the FT817 & FT817ND?
>
> Thanks
> 73 de Bob VE3XNB
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi, the Mac cables are minidin 8 pins male, the mouse and keyboard (ps2) are
minidin 6 pins. The extension cables are worthy: a single 1,5m male- male cable
make two 75cm minidin 6pins male cables available, worth the price. But junk box
is always a better source! (see old modem cards transformers for isolation
uses..)
73 de i2jjr Augusto
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Steve
   To: FT817@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:16 PM
   Subject: [FT817] Re: FYI: FT-817 ACC Jack.....



   --- In FT817@yahoogroups.com, "i2jjr" <i2jjr@h...> wrote:
   > Pay attention: the mice's connector is the same, but NOT ALL wires
   are connected, and normally there is no screening on that. The Mac
   cables are very good ones, with heavy screening, and I recommend
   their use.

   Well, I didn't have any mac cables laying around.  Prefer PCs.  I
   had a mouse cable and all the pins/wires were connected and it had
   shielding so I was happy.  Just because it was not a mac cable does
   not make it bad.  Worked for me.  I prefer stuff in my junk box if I
   can use it.





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The FT817 Group averages over 500 (+/-130 one-sigma) messages
per month. Because the volume of messages is rather large, I would
like to remind everyone of a few long-standing FT817 guidelines to
follow. Most of you do so already.

1. Civility. (This is practiced well by our members!)

2. Please sign your messages with name and call sign, e.g.,
     Fred - W1XYZ.

3. When replying to a posting (message), kindly delete all
unnecessary text including the trailing text. Only leave the text
from the prior message to which you are replying ... <snip> the
rest. If one desires to read the entire thread, the command [Up
Thread] at the top of the message can be used to read the entire
discussion. Remember also that a lot of members have slow
connections and some even pay connect time or characters rx/tx. This
also helps the clarity of your message.

4. When replying to a post, please decide if your comment should be
to the entire group of over 5,000 or directly to the author of the
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5. It is fine for members to post something for sale or wanted to
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posting the FS or WTB may post that the item(s) was/were
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6. Posting of commercial items for sale by manufacturers or dealers
is also fine, but should be done on an infrequent basis. The FT817
members benefit by learning of hardware, software, sales, etc. before
it appears in magazines, etc.

7. New members are all moderated until their first posting. If it
follows the guidelines, it is approved and the member is change to
unmoderated status. This list is a partially moderated list, i.e.,
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I have some Serial that are 8din/DB9, these I use for the Newtons..
But the Din8/Din8 cables, I think I still have a few here in a box...
I just happened to notice this, I'll see if I can check the box for
Extras..
Jeff-N8NOE
I haven't checked the pinout yet, Just noticed it about 3:00am..Jeff


--- In FT817@yahoogroups.com, "i2jjr" <i2jjr@h...> wrote:
> Hi, the Mac cables are minidin 8 pins male, the mouse and keyboard
(ps2) are minidin 6 pins. The extension cables are worthy: a single
1,5m male- male cable make two 75cm minidin 6pins male cables
available, worth the price. But junk box is always a better source!
(see old modem cards transformers for isolation uses..)
> 73 de i2jjr Augusto
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Steve
>   To: FT817@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:16 PM
>   Subject: [FT817] Re: FYI: FT-817 ACC Jack.....
>
>
>
>   --- In FT817@yahoogroups.com, "i2jjr" <i2jjr@h...> wrote:
>   > Pay attention: the mice's connector is the same, but NOT ALL wires
>   are connected, and normally there is no screening on that. The Mac
>   cables are very good ones, with heavy screening, and I recommend
>   their use.
>
>   Well, I didn't have any mac cables laying around.  Prefer PCs.  I
>   had a mouse cable and all the pins/wires were connected and it had
>   shielding so I was happy.  Just because it was not a mac cable does
>   not make it bad.  Worked for me.  I prefer stuff in my junk box if I
>   can use it.
>
>
>
>
>
>   and for a great FAQ ( Frequently Asked Questions ) see
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FT817/database
>   Some really good technical info at:
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I did forget to mention that there are around also many minidin 6 pins adapters,
i.e. minidin 6 male and female to db9 male and female, minidin 6 pins to din 5
pins : these may be also useful for using some odd cable you have in the junk
box. I have lot of old hifi or audio din cables, I normally used them also for
packet and controllers; using them with the adapters may be also a solution.
Soldering a db9 or a din is easier than minidin, and so this is another way. On
the other side, molded cables are rugged and they are reliable.... Another
adapter I use on the ft817 is a mono to stereo plug adapter for the headphone: I
use a very good (and strangely not too expensive) and comfortable HiFi
headphone, very sensitive, and  I do not like to have different levels L & R, 
and do not like to use the earphone switch.... but this is a matter of opinions.
What I absolutely do not like in the FT817 is the unbelievable power connector
and CAT Undocumentation.
But this is another tune .... 73s de Augusto I2JJR
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Swiger, Jeffrey M.
   To: FT817@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:10 PM
   Subject: [FT817] Re: FYI: FT-817 ACC Jack.....


   I have some Serial that are 8din/DB9, these I use for the Newtons..
   But the Din8/Din8 cables, I think I still have a few here in a box...
   I just happened to notice this, I'll see if I can check the box for
   Extras..
   Jeff-N8NOE
   I haven't checked the pinout yet, Just noticed it about 3:00am..Jeff

   --- In FT817@yahoogroups.com, "i2jjr" <i2jjr@h...> wrote:
   > Hi, the Mac cables are minidin 8 pins male, the mouse and keyboard
   (ps2) are minidin 6 pins. The extension cables are worthy: a single
   1,5m male- male cable make two 75cm minidin 6pins male cables
   available, worth the price. But junk box is always a better source!
   (see old modem cards transformers for isolation uses..)
   > 73 de i2jjr Augusto
   >   ----- Original Message -----
   >   From: Steve
   >   To: FT817@yahoogroups.com
   >   Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:16 PM
   >   Subject: [FT817] Re: FYI: FT-817 ACC Jack.....
   >
   >
   >
   >   --- In FT817@yahoogroups.com, "i2jjr" <i2jjr@h...> wrote:
   >   > Pay attention: the mice's connector is the same, but NOT ALL wires
   >   are connected, and normally there is no screening on that. The Mac
   >   cables are very good ones, with heavy screening, and I recommend
   >   their use.

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I just bought an 817ND at the end of Decmeber. At the end of January
I noticed an extra side tone when I was practicing sending code. It
was at 2.2 KHz approx.  I viewed it on Mixw using the waterfall
display.  I sent the radio into Yaesu for repair.  After three weeks
and a few phone calls on my part.  I found out that Engineering
Japan has been brought in to try to figure out what is going on.
They pulled a few more radios and found the same problem.  They have
no time line on when they will figure out how to fix it.

If you find this problem you may want to get in touch with Yaesu so
they document it for your warranty.


TTFN

Steve / K4AH
email - wwarthog@...

NAQCC # 0623       FPQRP # 1057
FISTS # 11287      QRPARCI # 11999
QRP-L # 555         ARRL

Be very, very careful what you put into that head,
because you will never, ever get it out.
Cardinal Wolsey (1475?-1530)

Jeff,

Black Cat Software makes a great little program for managing your
memories on several different rigs including the FT-817.

http://www.dogparksoftware.com/MacMemoriesManager.html

73 de Tim
AD7AN

On Monday, February 28, 2005, at 06:15 PM, Swiger, Jeffrey M. wrote:

>
> Hi All (or Y'ALL) (or U'ins)....
> I finally got the CAT cable, and thought I had something to back up
> memories. What is anyone using?.. I see FTBasic, this looks like it
> will do, but what choices do I have.. I use Macintosh, but have to get
> the PC Notebook out to do this.. I DON'T need PSK software, Control,
> Etc. Just want to back info up..
> Thanks!.. Jeff-N8NOE
>
>
>
>
>
> and for a great FAQ ( Frequently Asked Questions ) see
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FT817/database
> Some really good technical info at:
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Having recently purchased a MFJ-1317 switch mode psu I find that
when using this with a fully charged internal ni-cad pack after
about an hour of operating with cw the internal battery is in need
of charging.Indicated voltage on 817 display when psu connected is
13.9 volts.
Wonder why internal battery goes, any help would be appreciated
thanks, Tony.

Can someone tell me what the differences are between the FT-817 (as
launched in 2001, and the FT-817ND as available in the shops now ?

Thanks.

I suggest that you read messages nos. 36868 and 36886. Maybe they
will help.
73,
Barry W4WB

--- In FT817@yahoogroups.com, "g0peh" <g0peh@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Having recently purchased a MFJ-1317 switch mode psu I find that
> when using this with a fully charged internal ni-cad pack after
> about an hour of operating with cw the internal battery is in need
> of charging.Indicated voltage on 817 display when psu connected is
> 13.9 volts.
> Wonder why internal battery goes, any help would be appreciated
> thanks, Tony.

I have owned the two model, and as far as I noticed:

1.- ND has 3 displays colors

2.- ND has a sigly higher charging current for the internal batteries

3.- ND has solved the errata about noise blanker adjustment, but do not
spect too much from it.

All other things are exactly the same like the no ND model.

73s!

----- Original Message -----
From: "rovoreed" <john.mckenzie33@...>
To: <FT817@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 11:21 AM
Subject: [FT817] FT-817/FT-817ND Differences ?


> Can someone tell me what the differences are between the FT-817 (as
> launched in 2001, and the FT-817ND as available in the shops now ?
>
> Thanks.

It has 3 colour displays, an Nimh battery & Charger and includes the 60M
band.

Roger - G0BIQ

   _____

From: rovoreed [mailto:john.mckenzie33@...]
Sent: 02 March 2005 10:22
To: FT817@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FT817] FT-817/FT-817ND Differences ?






Can someone tell me what the differences are between the FT-817 (as
launched in 2001, and the FT-817ND as available in the shops now ?

Thanks.








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Don't forget the addition of 60 meter coverage on the ND.

Joe N1KHB

As I understand it, the main differences between the 817 and the 817ND are a
redesigned finals section that solves the infamous "blown finals" problem; an
extra color on the display; and the opening of the 60-meter band.

73 de KS4RY
Lewis Gregory
Richmond, VA
-------------- Original message --------------

>
>
>
>
> Can someone tell me what the differences are between the FT-817 (as
> launched in 2001, and the FT-817ND as available in the shops now ?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> and for a great FAQ ( Frequently Asked Questions ) see
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FT817/database
> Some really good technical info at: http://www.ussc.com/~turner/ft817pg.shtml
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anywhere
> on the Internet or in print without notice or compensation.
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can u enable 60m on plain vanilla 817 or do u
need 817nd...

cause that plus warranty seems to me to make
ebay prices crazy as they are 100$ below new
and id pay 100$ for another band plus warranty
(im told yaesu warranties are not transferable)

fred n1ajl


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Is there a way to identify when the rig was made from the serial
number?
Thanks
Ted   WT2G

60m can be enabled on the original 817 either by performing the extended
TX mod or changing software "jumpers".  If you do the TX mod then the
changes are permanent (or until you get out your soldering iron and undo
the mod).  Changes to software jumpers will persist until the next time
you reset the microprocessor.

Both are available at www.mods.dk.

73,
Abe N3BBF

-----Original Message-----
From: Fred55@... [mailto:Fred55@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 2:12 PM
To: FT817@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FT817] FT-817/FT-817ND Differences ?


can u enable 60m on plain vanilla 817 or do u need 817nd...

cause that plus warranty seems to me to make ebay prices crazy as they
are 100$ below new and id pay 100$ for another band plus warranty (im
told yaesu warranties are not transferable)

fred n1ajl

rovoreed wrote:

>
>
>Can someone tell me what the differences are between the FT-817 (as
>launched in 2001, and the FT-817ND as available in the shops now ?
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>

The annoying birdie at 7240 (freq for the West Coast Swap Net)  and
other birdies eliminated in the ND model

I am contemplating sending my early model 817 into Yaesu or buying a new
one to eliminate this annoying whine. Had I known of its existence, I
would have bought an 817ND outright instead of a used model. Oh well.....

Tom  KD6EVM
It all works out in the end...everybody dies.

ND has 60 Meters, that's your biggest difference.


----- Original Message -----
From: "rovoreed" <john.mckenzie33@...>
To: <FT817@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:21 AM
Subject: [FT817] FT-817/FT-817ND Differences ?


>
>
>
>
> Can someone tell me what the differences are between the FT-817 (as
> launched in 2001, and the FT-817ND as available in the shops now ?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> and for a great FAQ ( Frequently Asked Questions ) see
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FT817/database
> Some really good technical info at:
http://www.ussc.com/~turner/ft817pg.shtml
> Please note that your messages and files sent to this group may appear
anywhere on the Internet or in print without notice or compensation.
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>
>
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The manuals and FAQ for our miniature automatic antenna tuner are now
available for download:

    http://www.elecraft.com/T1/T1.htm

There's also a new photo showing the interior of the unit.

If you have any questions not covered in the FAQ, please let me know
(n6kr@...).

73,
Wayne
N6KR

----

http://www.elecraft.com

Hello All -

Selling a QRP Setup.

Yaesu FT-817, great condition.  Comes with original 3-piece rubber duck,
Yaesu pouch, original manual (a little doggie-eared from use), warranty
card, schematics.  Box is AWOL, but it will be packaged meticulously.

In addition, I have an FNB-72 battery (brand new 12-04), the AA battery pack
adapter, the power cable for running off of your power supply, and a fused
cigarette lighter adapter to run in the car.

LDG Z-11 Autotuner with power cable.

Saratoga EZ-PSK Cable for the PSK fans.

Asking $550 OBO.  I will pay shipping/insurance in the CONUS.

Feel free to contact me via e-mail, and I will give you my cell number if
you have any additional questions.

Thanks for looking!  73's,

Brian / KC8ZJD


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Hi Tim,

On 2-Mar-05, at 10:54 AM, Timothy Gordish wrote:

> Subject: Re: Memory Software?....
>
> Jeff,
>
> Black Cat Software makes a great little program for managing your
> memories on several different rigs including the FT-817.
>
> http://www.dogparksoftware.com/MacMemoriesManager.html
>
> 73 de Tim
> AD7AN

Ummm - actually it's Dog Park Software Ltd. that makes
MacMemoriesManager.
But thanks for mentioning it just the same :)

73 Don Agro VE3VRW

D o g   P a r k   S o f t w a r e   L t d .

email: dagro@...
    www: http://www.dogparksoftware.com
      iChat AV:dogpark@...

Ted   WT2G

According to the "Pack-it Referance" Second Addition by Hugh McCully
VE3AYR the "FT-817 serial number has the form YMLLNNNN where Y= the
last digit of the year of manufacture, M is the letter representing
the month of manufacture with "C" = January, "D" = February, and so
on. The lot number is represented by the two digits LL (00 - 99), and
NNNN (0001 - 9999) is the unit number within the lot LL. As an
example, 0L030227 means October 2000, lot 3, unit 227. The lot number
is not linked to the year and month, i.e. LL does not reset to 00
each year."
For more information on this book contact 'FT-817 book, 610 Barrons
Court, Burlington On, L7R 4E4 CANADA.'
I am in NO way connected with Hugh or this book.

73 de Bob VE3XNB