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#8706 From: daniel caso <d.caso@...>
Date: Sun Aug 1, 2010 9:11 am
Subject: Re: Re: New 1:32 Industrial Supplier 		d.caso
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James:

    There where really a lot of 20"gauge lines arround the world. The problem is that most of them being portable railways they jumped a lot from one owner to other and also from one type of industry to another, and very little documentation is left.
   Ingenio Ledesma -a huge sugar factory in Argentina- had during it's first years an extended 164km line of 20"railay where many O&K 0-8-0 & T locos did the work.
  Attached the only picture I've seen of it.

  Photo nr. 132 of  "O&K DAMPFLOKOMOTIVEN. Lieferverzeichnis 1892-195" (ISBN3-921894-00-X) is a builder's good quality photo of  a similar loco but shown as "750mm gauge" which I believe to be an error.

                      Daniel

--- On Sun, 8/1/10, jamesc0ldicott <james_coldicott@...> wrote:

From: jamesc0ldicott <james_coldicott@...>
Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] Re: New 1:32 Industrial Supplier
To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 1:47 AM

 


Gil,

actually I haven't really discussed the models with Dick at International Hobbies yet- we had a brief phone call today but it's very early days and Dick only carries prints at this time.

Kim,

I think you may have misinterpreted the scale/gauge combinations? Prior to WW1 18" was the 'standard' UK military gauge for trench operations, supply depots and armament factories. On top of this at least 2 major standard gauge locomotive works had 18" gauge works systems so (at my last count) there were at least 14 manufacturers producing a range of 18" gauge locomotives to supply these.

So the scale/gauge is 1:32n18. 18" scales to 14.28mm in 1:32 scale hence the choice of Sn3 standards. Don't worry- pretty much all the 18" gauge loco's and wagons will be available in 16.5mm gauge too as will the 2 foot [prototype] gauge models.

There are also some great 20" gauge lines out there- I know 16.5mm is actually 20.78 inches in 1:32 but what is 3/4 of an inch between friends?! Arizona Copper Company anyone?

I should state here that as far as possible I am pursuing fidelity to actual prototypes strictly in 1:32. I'm happy to make kits available in 16.5mm gauge where possible as a way of maybe encouraging On30/ HO scale modellers to try out the scale on their existing layouts. If you are in 1:35 some of the accessories I plan should suit you fine but as far as I am concerned once you start fudging boundaries as a manufacturer you are on a slippery slope to basically doing nothing right!

Couplings are a tricky issue but I can't bear the huge compromises needed to make everything Kadee ready. I use Kadee for my HO stuff but (as great as the system is) it isn't even true to scale in HO- let alone On30 and even further still in 1:32. I will look into a bolt on fix for Kadees as a possible extra though.

All suggestions are welcome so thanks everyone for their input so far.

...watch this space...

James

--- In FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com, "kim marsh" <kkimmarsh@...> wrote:
>
> hi james i would love to see your line,i dont think that i have seen any of your work in the past.
> i think that is a mistake not concentrating on 16.5 gauge.i dont think anybody does 1-32n14,and thinking about it very few do 19mm gauge with 16.5 you pick up on 1-35 and 1-32 using the most common components around.with the coupling ,kadee is the most common,with the link and pin you cant have operation and seeing that you are venturing into a baby boomer market please make it easy on our old eyes.
> personally i think it it a great market decision and wish you every sucess
> cheers kim



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#8707 From: "jamesc0ldicott" <james_coldicott@...>
Date: Sun Aug 1, 2010 11:22 am
Subject: Re: New 1:32 Industrial Supplier 		jamesc0ldicott
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Thanks All for your responses,

I've posted some pics of my 20" gauge models in the album named <James' models>.

Gil,

Dick has most of the prints but he is out of Gilpin Tram prints- he'll have new
stock next week. Don't know about the models- for now they are only available
from my website.

Woodie,

agreed- there is no current market for 18" gauge 1:32 railways but this is an
untapped treasure trove of wonderful prototypes and as I said, most of the 18"
gauge kits will be available in 16.5mm gauge. To my mind an 18" loco looks and
feels much better on 16.5mm gauge- having said that all the 2 foot kits will be
available in 19.05mm(3/4") 16.5mm and 14.02 mm gauges. I'm working on 18" and
20" gauge ready made portable track panels so it will be possible to buy a
'train set' and get running very quickly. Turnouts will take much longer but if
things pan out they will come given time.

James

--- In FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com, Woodie Greene <mogollonry@...> wrote:
>
> James-it really doesn't matter which scale/gauge you choose, I am a dedicated
scratchbuilder and will go "my own way". I also know that very few are
interested in US prototype models in 1:32/1:35 scale. Over these few years, I
have found 1:35 figures that scale out nicely in 1:32 scale and vice/versa so I
tend to use the scale(s) as I see fit. I would suggest that you consider 16.5MMÂ
gauge or 3/4"(On3) gauge for rolling stock since that is what most use. 18" is
cool, but few would be modeling that. Just my opinion.

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#8708 From: Gil Flores <mrbungalow01@...>
Date: Sun Aug 1, 2010 5:49 pm
Subject: Re: August 2010 Railroad Model Craftsman 		mrbungalow01
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you may be Over Seas, but your right at home when it comes to the 2 foot Vulcan, it's the hot ticket.Perfect model for two foot 1/32 scale!

--- On Sat, 7/31/10, William Uffelman <ufffam@...> wrote:

From: William Uffelman <ufffam@...>
Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] August 2010 Railroad Model Craftsman
To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 7:06 PM

 
I ave been traveling for the last couple of weeks os only lightly reading the groups so I am not sure if anyone memtioned the plans for a Vulcan2 foot gauge two ton gas loco on page 71. It has a Model T hood and 16" wheels so On3 24" wheels would be a good start for 1/32 model. As I recall there is a 1/32 scale Modle T kit out there to help with the hood.
 
Bill Uffelman
Las Vegas NV



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#8709 From: daniel caso <d.caso@...>
Date: Mon Aug 2, 2010 4:30 am
Subject: Re: Re: Wrightline Skips APOLOGIES 		d.caso
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Kevin:

       You are right. Sorry, my mistake. It was Geoff from who I was waiting news and he already answered.
      

--- On Sun, 8/1/10, Kevin Crosado <kcrosado@...> wrote:

From: Kevin Crosado <kcrosado@...>
Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] Re: Wrightline Skips
To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 3:21 AM

 

See message 8133.

_______________

Kevin Crosado
De Selby Research

On 30/07/2010, at 12:04 AM, FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> Did you get any news about the 1/32 skips from The Model Company?
>
> Daniel



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#8710 From: daniel caso <d.caso@...>
Date: Mon Aug 2, 2010 4:36 am
Subject: Re: Re: New 1:32 Industrial Supplier 		d.caso
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James:

      Are you aware of Roy C. Link (now HB Scale) 14mm gauge range?
     Wouldn't be pity to start a new gauge just for 0,2mm diference?
     Of course I am talking just about track, not about locos and rolling stock.

    What I would like A LOT is 16,5mm and/or 19mm gauge trapezoidal metal sleepery.

                        Daniel
   

--- On Sun, 8/1/10, jamesc0ldicott <james_coldicott@...> wrote:

From: jamesc0ldicott <james_coldicott@...>
Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] Re: New 1:32 Industrial Supplier
To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 1:22 PM

 


Thanks All for your responses,

I've posted some pics of my 20" gauge models in the album named <James' models>.

Gil,

Dick has most of the prints but he is out of Gilpin Tram prints- he'll have new stock next week. Don't know about the models- for now they are only available from my website.

Woodie,

agreed- there is no current market for 18" gauge 1:32 railways but this is an untapped treasure trove of wonderful prototypes and as I said, most of the 18" gauge kits will be available in 16.5mm gauge. To my mind an 18" loco looks and feels much better on 16.5mm gauge- having said that all the 2 foot kits will be available in 19.05mm(3/4") 16.5mm and 14.02 mm gauges. I'm working on 18" and 20" gauge ready made portable track panels so it will be possible to buy a 'train set' and get running very quickly. Turnouts will take much longer but if things pan out they will come given time.

James

--- In FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com, Woodie Greene <mogollonry@...> wrote:
>
> James-it really doesn't matter which scale/gauge you choose, I am a dedicated scratchbuilder and will go "my own way". I also know that very few are interested in US prototype models in 1:32/1:35 scale. Over these few years, I have found 1:35 figures that scale out nicely in 1:32 scale and vice/versa so I tend to use the scale(s) as I see fit. I would suggest that you consider 16.5MMÂ gauge or 3/4"(On3) gauge for rolling stock since that is what most use. 18" is cool, but few would be modeling that. Just my opinion.



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#8711 From: "Stephen Auslender" <auslend@...>
Date: Mon Aug 2, 2010 7:05 am
Subject: RE: Re: New 1:32 Industrial Supplier 		ssculptor
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Daniel,

Fine scale modelers have to have their accuracy, no matter what.

They gotta do what they gotta do.

I tend to simply ignore them and I go my own way.

After all, it is not as bad in model railroading as it is with the static plastic model airplanes and military vehicle fine scale modelers.  These guys will spend many hours making detailed interiors for their models which can not be seen after the model is assembled.

Then they enter the models in IPMS contests where the judges spend hours measuring and arguing over trifles.

Compared to them model railroaders, no matter how anal retentive, as like a breath of fresh air.

Stephen

 

From: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of daniel caso
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 12:37 AM
To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FS32NGModelrail] Re: New 1:32 Industrial Supplier

 

 

James:

      Are you aware of Roy C. Link (now HB Scale) 14mm gauge range?
     Wouldn't be pity to start a new gauge just for 0,2mm diference?
     Of course I am talking just about track, not about locos and rolling stock.

    What I would like A LOT is 16,5mm and/or 19mm gauge trapezoidal metal sleepery.

                        Daniel
   

--- On Sun, 8/1/10, jamesc0ldicott <james_coldicott@hotmail.com> wrote:


From: jamesc0ldicott <james_coldicott@hotmail.com>
Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] Re: New 1:32 Industrial Supplier
To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 1:22 PM

 


Thanks All for your responses,

I've posted some pics of my 20" gauge models in the album named <James' models>.

Gil,

Dick has most of the prints but he is out of Gilpin Tram prints- he'll have new stock next week. Don't know about the models- for now they are only available from my website.

Woodie,

agreed- there is no current market for 18" gauge 1:32 railways but this is an untapped treasure trove of wonderful prototypes and as I said, most of the 18" gauge kits will be available in 16.5mm gauge. To my mind an 18" loco looks and feels much better on 16.5mm gauge- having said that all the 2 foot kits will be available in 19.05mm(3/4") 16.5mm and 14.02 mm gauges. I'm working on 18" and 20" gauge ready made portable track panels so it will be possible to buy a 'train set' and get running very quickly. Turnouts will take much longer but if things pan out they will come given time.

James

--- In FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com, Woodie Greene <mogollonry@...> wrote:
>
> James-it really doesn't matter which scale/gauge you choose, I am a dedicated scratchbuilder and will go "my own way". I also know that very few are interested in US prototype models in 1:32/1:35 scale. Over these few years, I have found 1:35 figures that scale out nicely in 1:32 scale and vice/versa so I tend to use the scale(s) as I see fit. I would suggest that you consider 16.5MMÂ gauge or 3/4"(On3) gauge for rolling stock since that is what most use. 18" is cool, but few would be modeling that. Just my opinion.

 


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#8712 From: "jamesc0ldicott" <james_coldicott@...>
Date: Mon Aug 2, 2010 9:56 am
Subject: Re: New 1:32 Industrial Supplier 		jamesc0ldicott
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Hi Daniel,

yes I am aware of the O14 models and am a long-time modeller in this scale (as I
am in On3, On30, HOn3,Sn3, 1:20.3, 16mm, 1:35 and- my own invention 1:27.7-
which is the correct scale for 18" gauge prototypes on 16.5mm track)- actually
we had planned to dine with David and Kasia Janes of KB scale this Friday.  As I
think I mentioned my back to back wheel measurements will make them
interchangeable with O14 track standards and I've had Sn3 loco's running on my
O14 layout with no problems apart from 6 and 8 coupled loco's struggling with
the radius of a Type 2 turnout.

Really grateful to you for 'thinking outside the box' and coming up with
alternative options for track- it's great to feel people are backing you up and
coming up with excellent ideas for the kits. Hopefully you'll all be happy with
what I come up with. I am by no means a 'finescale snob'- it's a hobby after all
but there are so many cool prototypes out there- hopefully offering accurate
kits will add value for both the freelance and finescale modeller. I can
guarantee you one thing... no matter how hard you try to be accurate there will
be more than one 'rivet counter' out there that will point out all your
mistakes, every compromise needed to get a model running, and generally make you
wish  you had never bothered!- Its the same with my artwork and sure is the same
with models.

So with my thickest skin at the ready- thanks for all your comments, keep them
coming...

James

--- In FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com, daniel caso <d.caso@...> wrote:
>
> James:
>
>       Are you aware of Roy C. Link (now HB Scale) 14mm gauge range?
>      Wouldn't be pity to start a new gauge just for 0,2mm diference?
>      Of course I am talking just about track, not about locos and rolling
stock.
>
>     What I would like A LOT is 16,5mm and/or 19mm gauge trapezoidal metal
sleepery.
>
>                         Daniel
>    
>

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#8713 From: Woodie Greene <mogollonry@...>
Date: Mon Aug 2, 2010 1:33 pm
Subject: Re: Re: New 1:32 Industrial Supplier 		mogollonry
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James-those punters who like to point out other's "inferior" work can be run off with just one statement-"let's see YOUR work".
                     Woodie
--- On Mon, 8/2/10, jamesc0ldicott <james_coldicott@...> wrote:

From: jamesc0ldicott <james_coldicott@...>
Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] Re: New 1:32 Industrial Supplier
To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 4:56 AM

 
Hi Daniel,

yes I am aware of the O14 models and am a long-time modeller in this scale (as I am in On3, On30, HOn3,Sn3, 1:20.3, 16mm, 1:35 and- my own invention 1:27.7- which is the correct scale for 18" gauge prototypes on 16.5mm track)- actually we had planned to dine with David and Kasia Janes of KB scale this Friday. As I think I mentioned my back to back wheel measurements will make them interchangeable with O14 track standards and I've had Sn3 loco's running on my O14 layout with no problems apart from 6 and 8 coupled loco's struggling with the radius of a Type 2 turnout.

Really grateful to you for 'thinking outside the box' and coming up with alternative options for track- it's great to feel people are backing you up and coming up with excellent ideas for the kits. Hopefully you'll all be happy with what I come up with. I am by no means a 'finescale snob'- it's a hobby after all but there are so many cool prototypes out there- hopefully offering accurate kits will add value for both the freelance and finescale modeller. I can guarantee you one thing... no matter how hard you try to be accurate there will be more than one 'rivet counter' out there that will point out all your mistakes, every compromise needed to get a model running, and generally make you wish you had never bothered!- Its the same with my artwork and sure is the same with models.

So with my thickest skin at the ready- thanks for all your comments, keep them coming...

James

--- In FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com, daniel caso <d.caso@...> wrote:
>
> James:
>
>  Â Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚  Are you aware of Roy C. Link (now HB Scale) 14mm gauge range?
>  Â Ã‚ Ã‚  Wouldn't be pity to start a new gauge just for 0,2mm diference?
>  Â Ã‚ Ã‚  Of course I am talking just about track, not about locos and rolling stock.
>
>  Â Ã‚  What I would like A LOT is 16,5mm and/or 19mm gauge trapezoidal metal sleepery.
>
>  Â Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚  Daniel
>  Â Ã‚ 
>


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#8714 From: "velotrain" <velotrain@...>
Date: Mon Aug 2, 2010 1:43 pm
Subject: Stainz conversion? 		velotrain
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I know several of you have done this conversion from the Magic Train engine, and
I've seen photo's of Kim's on his No Hope Coast layout.  Claus has a template in
the Files, but lacking rivet detail.

Allen Doherty of Worsley Works, while not a great communicator, has indicated in
the pact that he is willing to produce any etching that he thinks he can sell a
few of.  A new cab is obvious, and possibly water tanks and a coal hopper
hanging off the back of the cab.  If anyone has contact with other etchers who
might be interested, it doesn't matter to me where it goes, but it seems obvious
for a commercial project.

While the wheels may be small for 1:32/1:35, they're certainly more appropriate
than those of the Bachmann Porter, which I've seen converted up to G scale.

Charles

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#8715 From: daniel caso <d.caso@...>
Date: Mon Aug 2, 2010 2:13 pm
Subject: Re: Stainz conversion? 		d.caso
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Charles;

    If it is going to be a really prototypical O&K cab+water tanks fitting the MT chasiss
(I have two of them waiting) I could be interested but would like to see a photo or at least a drawing of it first and , of course, to know the price.

                 Daniel

--- On Mon, 8/2/10, velotrain <velotrain@...> wrote:

From: velotrain <velotrain@...>
Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] Stainz conversion?
To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 3:43 PM

 

I know several of you have done this conversion from the Magic Train engine, and I've seen photo's of Kim's on his No Hope Coast layout. Claus has a template in the Files, but lacking rivet detail.

Allen Doherty of Worsley Works, while not a great communicator, has indicated in the pact that he is willing to produce any etching that he thinks he can sell a few of. A new cab is obvious, and possibly water tanks and a coal hopper hanging off the back of the cab. If anyone has contact with other etchers who might be interested, it doesn't matter to me where it goes, but it seems obvious for a commercial project.

While the wheels may be small for 1:32/1:35, they're certainly more appropriate than those of the Bachmann Porter, which I've seen converted up to G scale.

Charles



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#8716 From: daniel caso <d.caso@...>
Date: Mon Aug 2, 2010 2:45 pm
Subject: Re: Stainz conversion? 		d.caso
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Charles:

     I did a mistake and tittled the new album O&K but the photo is actually of a Henschel with 450mm drivers (= 12,86mm for 1/35 and 10,06mm for 1/32.)
     See the dimensions: even for 1/32 the Magic train drivers would be too big. They are actually 16.5mm diameter which means 528mm for 1/32 and 577,5mm for 1/35.

     Both, O&K and Henschel made plenty of locos that would fit very good the MT chasis. It is just matter of doing  some research.

     A major diference would be the leaf springs position: just above the drivers in the MT chasis and above the frames in most (if not all) O&K and Henschel prototypes.

                    Daniel

--- On Mon, 8/2/10, velotrain <velotrain@...> wrote:

From: velotrain <velotrain@...>
Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] Stainz conversion?
To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 3:43 PM

 

I know several of you have done this conversion from the Magic Train engine, and I've seen photo's of Kim's on his No Hope Coast layout. Claus has a template in the Files, but lacking rivet detail.

Allen Doherty of Worsley Works, while not a great communicator, has indicated in the pact that he is willing to produce any etching that he thinks he can sell a few of. A new cab is obvious, and possibly water tanks and a coal hopper hanging off the back of the cab. If anyone has contact with other etchers who might be interested, it doesn't matter to me where it goes, but it seems obvious for a commercial project.

While the wheels may be small for 1:32/1:35, they're certainly more appropriate than those of the Bachmann Porter, which I've seen converted up to G scale.

Charles



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#8717 From: daniel caso <d.caso@...>
Date: Mon Aug 2, 2010 2:49 pm
Subject: Re: Stainz conversion? 		d.caso
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Charles:

    I've just added to the album another photo + dimension this time of an a bit bigger henschel with 550mm diamter drivers.

                     Daniel

--- On Mon, 8/2/10, velotrain <velotrain@...> wrote:

From: velotrain <velotrain@...>
Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] Stainz conversion?
To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 3:43 PM

 

I know several of you have done this conversion from the Magic Train engine, and I've seen photo's of Kim's on his No Hope Coast layout. Claus has a template in the Files, but lacking rivet detail.

Allen Doherty of Worsley Works, while not a great communicator, has indicated in the pact that he is willing to produce any etching that he thinks he can sell a few of. A new cab is obvious, and possibly water tanks and a coal hopper hanging off the back of the cab. If anyone has contact with other etchers who might be interested, it doesn't matter to me where it goes, but it seems obvious for a commercial project.

While the wheels may be small for 1:32/1:35, they're certainly more appropriate than those of the Bachmann Porter, which I've seen converted up to G scale.

Charles



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#8718 From: daniel caso <d.caso@...>
Date: Mon Aug 2, 2010 3:41 pm
Subject: Re: Re: New 1:32 Industrial Supplier 		d.caso
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James:

      ...
      Really grateful to you for 'thinking outside the box' and coming up with alternative options for track- it's great to feel people are backing you up and coming up with excellent ideas for the kits.
      ...

                              I think you will be surprised by the amount of support you will get from
                              this group.
                              In my experience  one gets always a lot of aparently discording ideas
                              and advice, but once you've  gave the a though with an a bit open
                              mind all of them proves of value.

    ...
    I can guarantee you one thing... no matter how hard you try to be accurate there will be more than one 'rivet counter' out there that will point out all your mistakes, every compromise needed to get a model running, and generally make you wish you had never bothered!- Its the same with my artwork and sure is the same with models.

                             I've been there in both, the modelling and the art world. I totally
                             agree. I've learnt that if what I say or do please just everyone, I am
                             certainly wrong.
                             But have also learnt that often one pay to much attention to how the
                             critics come than to what their contain. If one manage to overcome
                             that there are no "bad" critics at all. just a lot to learn. It is a pity, but
                             too often people with the sharpest eyes had bad temper so one must
                             "unpackage" their comments before arriving to conclussions.
                             It's a tough world!

                             Keep us posted!

                                             Daniel

                            

                            






--- In FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com, daniel caso <d.caso@...> wrote:
>
> James:
>
>  Â Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚  Are you aware of Roy C. Link (now HB Scale) 14mm gauge range?
>  Â Ã‚ Ã‚  Wouldn't be pity to start a new gauge just for 0,2mm diference?
>  Â Ã‚ Ã‚  Of course I am talking just about track, not about locos and rolling stock.
>
>  Â Ã‚  What I would like A LOT is 16,5mm and/or 19mm gauge trapezoidal metal sleepery.
>
>  Â Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚  Daniel
>  Â Ã‚ 
>



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#8719 From: daniel caso <d.caso@...>
Date: Mon Aug 2, 2010 4:23 pm
Subject: RE: Re: New 1:32 Industrial Supplier 		d.caso
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Stephen:

             I agree, but must say the only reason why I am not one of them is because I miss the sharp eyes and the skills.
             Anyway I'll never let that spoil my joy.

                                            Daniel

           

--- On Mon, 8/2/10, Stephen Auslender <auslend@...> wrote:

From: Stephen Auslender <auslend@...>
Subject: RE: [FS32NGModelrail] Re: New 1:32 Industrial Supplier
To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 9:05 AM

 

Daniel,

Fine scale modelers have to have their accuracy, no matter what.

They gotta do what they gotta do.

I tend to simply ignore them and I go my own way.

After all, it is not as bad in model railroading as it is with the static plastic model airplanes and military vehicle fine scale modelers.  These guys will spend many hours making detailed interiors for their models which can not be seen after the model is assembled.

Then they enter the models in IPMS contests where the judges spend hours measuring and arguing over trifles.

Compared to them model railroaders, no matter how anal retentive, as like a breath of fresh air.

Stephen

 

From: FS32NGModelrail@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: FS32NGModelrail@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of daniel caso
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 12:37 AM
To: FS32NGModelrail@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [FS32NGModelrail] Re: New 1:32 Industrial Supplier

 

 

James:

      Are you aware of Roy C. Link (now HB Scale) 14mm gauge range?
     Wouldn't be pity to start a new gauge just for 0,2mm diference?
     Of course I am talking just about track, not about locos and rolling stock.

    What I would like A LOT is 16,5mm and/or 19mm gauge trapezoidal metal sleepery.

                        Daniel
   

--- On Sun, 8/1/10, jamesc0ldicott <james_coldicott@ hotmail.com> wrote:


From: jamesc0ldicott <james_coldicott@ hotmail.com>
Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] Re: New 1:32 Industrial Supplier
To: FS32NGModelrail@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 1:22 PM

 


Thanks All for your responses,

I've posted some pics of my 20" gauge models in the album named <James' models>.

Gil,

Dick has most of the prints but he is out of Gilpin Tram prints- he'll have new stock next week. Don't know about the models- for now they are only available from my website.

Woodie,

agreed- there is no current market for 18" gauge 1:32 railways but this is an untapped treasure trove of wonderful prototypes and as I said, most of the 18" gauge kits will be available in 16.5mm gauge. To my mind an 18" loco looks and feels much better on 16.5mm gauge- having said that all the 2 foot kits will be available in 19.05mm(3/4" ) 16.5mm and 14.02 mm gauges. I'm working on 18" and 20" gauge ready made portable track panels so it will be possible to buy a 'train set' and get running very quickly. Turnouts will take much longer but if things pan out they will come given time.

James

--- In FS32NGModelrail@ yahoogroups. com, Woodie Greene <mogollonry@. ..> wrote:
>
> James-it really doesn't matter which scale/gauge you choose, I am a dedicated scratchbuilder and will go "my own way". I also know that very few are interested in US prototype models in 1:32/1:35 scale. Over these few years, I have found 1:35 figures that scale out nicely in 1:32 scale and vice/versa so I tend to use the scale(s) as I see fit. I would suggest that you consider 16.5MMÂ gauge or 3/4"(On3) gauge for rolling stock since that is what most use. 18" is cool, but few would be modeling that. Just my opinion.

 



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#8720 From: Brian Rumary <brian@...>
Date: Tue Aug 3, 2010 11:04 am
Subject: Re: New 1:32 Industrial Supplier 		purnellsuk
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Daniel caso wrote:

> Are you aware of Roy C. Link (now HB Scale) 14mm gauge range?

That should be KBscale - www.kbscale.com

Brian Rumary, England

www.rumary.co.uk

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#8721 From: "Vince Bradley" <vince.bradley@...>
Date: Tue Aug 3, 2010 11:11 am
Subject: RE: New 1:32 Industrial Supplier 		hunslett
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There is plenty of information and standards out there for 14.2 gauge track.
Wheels should not be a problem.  The On14 group is a great source of useful
information.  I am interested in 1/32n14.  I have a friend with a live steam
18"gauge Hunslet in 4" scale.  A very nice engine.  He is also building cars
to go with it based on Sand Hutton practice.
Vincent

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Subject: Re: [FS32NGModelrail] New 1:32 Industrial Supplier

Daniel caso wrote:

> Are you aware of Roy C. Link (now HB Scale) 14mm gauge range?

That should be KBscale - www.kbscale.com

Brian Rumary, England

www.rumary.co.uk




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#8722 From: "velotrain" <velotrain@...>
Date: Tue Aug 3, 2010 1:48 pm
Subject: Re: Stainz conversion? 		velotrain
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Daniel -

I will confess to not sharing your need for prototype fidelity.  I also do not
have the skills for drafting the design for any etching.  It simply seemed a
good donor for a conversion as it doesn't have the miniscule wheels of, say, a
Bachmann Porter, which I think would look silly in 1:32, much less larger
scales.  Also, having a European profile lends itself to representing the proto
lines which ran equipment of this size, perhaps borne out by your saying you
have two of them awaiting conversion.

Charles

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#8723 From: daniel caso <d.caso@...>
Date: Tue Aug 3, 2010 3:09 pm
Subject: Re: New 1:32 Industrial Supplier 		d.caso
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Brian:

      Sorry, my error. I meant KB not HB.

                 Daniel

--- On Tue, 8/3/10, Brian Rumary <brian@...> wrote:

From: Brian Rumary <brian@...>
Subject: Re: [FS32NGModelrail] New 1:32 Industrial Supplier
To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 1:04 PM

 

Daniel caso wrote:

> Are you aware of Roy C. Link (now HB Scale) 14mm gauge range?

That should be KBscale - www.kbscale.com

Brian Rumary, England

www.rumary.co.uk



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#8724 From: "kkimmarsh" <kkimmarsh@...>
Date: Wed Aug 4, 2010 9:26 am
Subject: hand built trucks 19mm gauge 		kkimmarsh
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evening all i trust that you are all well.please find in the new photoes 3
photoes of my effort in 19mm gauge
with all this discussion of late about 19mm i remembered that about 14 years ago
i was into 19mm and saw it as the only way to go.i produced my own arch bar
trucks and of course they were full sprung.the materials were brass and
wood.they did not work well as i made them by hand,you really need a metal lathe
to do that type of work properly.soon after i switched to 16,5 gauge.
i my mind fine scale in 1-32 is fully working springs, makers plates,draft gear
and working brake gear and that is just on the bottom.
now i just let it all hang out.
cheers kim

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#8725 From: daniel caso <d.caso@...>
Date: Wed Aug 4, 2010 9:36 am
Subject: Re: Re: Stainz conversion? 		d.caso
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Charles:

    The last thing I would do  -you know me already- is to discourage a modeller to go ahead with his projects.

    You could hardly count me among rivet counters and I  don't see myself even as a  finescaler. More than all because my poor eyes which make for me very dificult to see enough.
    But I do like a model to recall in my mind a specific loco.
    I also did a lot of freelancing, but when fantasy matters I mostly -not always- prefer my own.
 
   That said, i see no reason to doubt about your project. I still have those MT mechanism waiting and -who knows- may be you tempt me with those cabs.

    Again, it would be great to see at least a drawing.

                          Daniel


  

--- On Tue, 8/3/10, velotrain <velotrain@...> wrote:

From: velotrain <velotrain@...>
Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] Re: Stainz conversion?
To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 3:48 PM

 

Daniel -

I will confess to not sharing your need for prototype fidelity. I also do not have the skills for drafting the design for any etching. It simply seemed a good donor for a conversion as it doesn't have the miniscule wheels of, say, a Bachmann Porter, which I think would look silly in 1:32, much less larger scales. Also, having a European profile lends itself to representing the proto lines which ran equipment of this size, perhaps borne out by your saying you have two of them awaiting conversion.

Charles



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#8726 From: daniel caso <d.caso@...>
Date: Wed Aug 4, 2010 10:54 am
Subject: TURNING MECHANISM 		d.caso
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9-aNR9ZiwE>.


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#8727 From: daniel caso <d.caso@...>
Date: Wed Aug 4, 2010 2:22 pm
Subject: Fw: Today is bitolinha day! 		d.caso
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(From our Brazilian fellow Luiz Bellotto)

Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 3:54 PM

Hi guys, following, you´ll find five pictures from bitolinha, still on commercial operation, taken by Herbert Graf, on 1979, March
 
I hope you´ll enjoy them!

 


5 of 5 Photo(s)


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#8728 From: Hans Hammarsten <hanshammarsten2002@...>
Date: Wed Aug 4, 2010 2:26 pm
Subject: SV: Fw: Today is bitolinha day! [5 Attachments] 		hanshammarst...
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Wow..now that's something to like for sure, thanks for sharing
Cheers
Hans

--- Den ons 2010-08-04 skrev daniel caso <d.caso@...>:

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Till: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
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(From our Brazilian fellow Luiz Bellotto)

Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 3:54 PM

Hi guys, following, you´ll find five pictures from bitolinha, still on commercial operation, taken by Herbert Graf, on 1979, March
 
I hope you´ll enjoy them!

 



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#8729 From: daniel caso <d.caso@...>
Date: Wed Aug 4, 2010 2:37 pm
Subject: Fw: Bitolinha day 		d.caso
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From our Brazilian fellow Marcelo Lordeiro (see attachment)





1 of 1 Photo(s)


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#8730 From: daniel caso <d.caso@...>
Date: Wed Aug 4, 2010 2:39 pm
Subject: BRUTAL O.T. with all needed apologizes 		d.caso
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A woman went to a pet shop & immediately spotted a large, beautiful parrot..

There was a sign on the cage that said $50.00.

"Why so little," she asked the pet store owner.

The owner looked at her and said, "Look, I should tell you first that this bird used to live in a house of prostitution
and sometimes it says some pretty vulgar stuff."

The woman thought about this, but decided she had to have the bird any way.

She took it home and hung the bird's cage up in her living room and waited for it to say something.

The bird looked around the room, then at her, and said,

"New house, new madam."

The woman was a bit shocked at the implication, but then thought "that's really not so bad."

When her 2 teenage daughters returned from school the bird saw them and said, "New house, new madam, new girls."

The girls and the woman were a bit offended but then began to laugh about the situation considering how and where the parrot had been raised.

Moments later, the woman's husband Keith came home from work.

The bird looked at him and said,

"Hi, Keith, nice to see you again!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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#8731 From: "Vince Bradley" <vince.bradley@...>
Date: Wed Aug 4, 2010 3:10 pm
Subject: RE: Bachman side dump cars 		hunslett
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Greetings,
Perhaps this has been discussed before but has anybody found a suitable
replacement set of larger wheels for these cars.  I find that the originals
are very small for 1/32 scale.
I am almost done with converting Gnomy chassis to use on 19mm track.  I will
post some pictures soon.
Thank you,
Vincent Bradley

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#8732 From: Woodie Greene <mogollonry@...>
Date: Wed Aug 4, 2010 3:39 pm
Subject: RE: Bachman side dump cars 		mogollonry
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Vince-I don't know if this will help but the wheelsets (16.5MM gauge) which are used in Bachmann's On30 arch bar trucks work nicely in the side dump cars.
                  Woodie

--- On Wed, 8/4/10, Vince Bradley <vince.bradley@...> wrote:

From: Vince Bradley <vince.bradley@...>
Subject: RE: [FS32NGModelrail] Bachman side dump cars
To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 10:10 AM

 
Greetings,
Perhaps this has been discussed before but has anybody found a suitable
replacement set of larger wheels for these cars. I find that the originals
are very small for 1/32 scale.
I am almost done with converting Gnomy chassis to use on 19mm track. I will
post some pictures soon.
Thank you,
Vincent Bradley


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#8733 From: "Vince Bradley" <vince.bradley@...>
Date: Wed Aug 4, 2010 5:30 pm
Subject: RE: Bachman side dump cars 		hunslett
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Woodie,

Actually I had missed that idea.  I have used the wheels in other cars but missed trying on the dump cars.  I need to spread the gauge to 19mm but I will try it.

Thanks,

Vincent

 

From: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Woodie Greene
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 11:39 AM
To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FS32NGModelrail] Bachman side dump cars

 




Vince-I don't know if this will help but the wheelsets (16.5MM gauge) which are used in Bachmann's On30 arch bar trucks work nicely in the side dump cars.

                  Woodie

--- On Wed, 8/4/10, Vince Bradley <vince.bradley@...> wrote:


From: Vince Bradley <vince.bradley@...>
Subject: RE: [FS32NGModelrail] Bachman side dump cars
To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 10:10 AM

 

Greetings,
Perhaps this has been discussed before but has anybody found a suitable
replacement set of larger wheels for these cars. I find that the originals
are very small for 1/32 scale.
I am almost done with converting Gnomy chassis to use on 19mm track. I will
post some pictures soon.
Thank you,
Vincent Bradley





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#8734 From: "Mario Bernkopf" <mario.bernkopf@...>
Date: Thu Aug 5, 2010 2:19 pm
Subject: Re:BRUTAL O.T. with all needed apologizes 		mbernkopf2002
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Hello Daniel,

 

Thanks fort he fine photographs and the joke.

 

The latter made me Popular-guy-of the-moment at work and was very well received.

 

I guess in future one has to look out for parrots during visits to houses of ill repute…

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mario

 

Weinstadt

Germany

 


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#8735 From: daniel caso <d.caso@...>
Date: Thu Aug 5, 2010 4:36 pm
Subject: Re: Re:BRUTAL O.T. with all needed apologizes 		d.caso
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Mario:

        Nice to know you enjoyed.
       The parrot joke was sent to me by my dear friend Mike Beard (England) who since years provides me daily with both a good amount of 009 scale modelling news and humour.
        As far as I can I try to avoid such o.t. here but sometimes I just can't.

                       Daniel

--- On Thu, 8/5/10, Mario Bernkopf <mario.bernkopf@...> wrote:

From: Mario Bernkopf <mario.bernkopf@...>
Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] Re:BRUTAL O.T. with all needed apologizes
To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 4:19 PM

 

Hello Daniel,

 

Thanks fort he fine photographs and the joke.

 

The latter made me Popular-guy- of the-moment at work and was very well received.

 

I guess in future one has to look out for parrots during visits to houses of ill repute…

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mario

 

Weinstadt

Germany

 



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