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#4465 From: "jh_afman" <jh_afman@...>
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2006 6:57 am
Subject: 1:35 "Naworth"
jh_afman
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Hi there

My name is Johan and i'm new to this community, i recently signed
up. At the moment i'm in the proces of scratchbuilding "Naworth". A
diesel loco from the narrow gauge South Tynedale Railway in GB. (see
also www.strps.org.uk ). Now i'm not new to scratchbuilding in 1:35
in general but i do have a question. Of course you al know that two
component epoxyresin glue does'nt stick to polystyrene. Well, i
did'nt. I had to learn it from "hair rippin" experience. Can anyone
tell me how to glue metal (brass nuts) to polystyrene.

tnx in advance.

with kind regards, Johan

#4466 From: Darryl Huffman <darrylhuffman@...>
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2006 7:57 am
Subject: Re: 1:35 "Naworth"
darrylhuffman
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Johan,

The kind of two part epoxies I use do stick to polystyrene quite well.  But
if you are having problems, I would try using silicon sealant.  This is the
silicone based material that is used around bathtubs to prevent leaks.  It
seems to adhere well to everything except Teflon.

Darryl Huffman
12020 Old Seward Highway
Anchorage,  AK  99515

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----- Original Message -----
From: "jh_afman" <jh_afman@...>
To: <FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:57 PM
Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] 1:35 "Naworth"

#4467 From: vsons@...
Date: Wed Sep 6, 2006 11:04 am
Subject: Re: 1:35 "Naworth"
yah_hoo_sucks
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In a message dated 9/6/2006 3:02:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jh_afman@... writes:
Of course you al know that two
component epoxyresin glue does'nt stick to polystyrene.
It has worked for me in the past.  It is the greasy polyethylene (often used in toys, and in soft figures such as the Airfix/Matchbox military offerings) that has always given me problems.
 Can anyone
tell me how to glue metal (brass nuts) to polystyrene.
If it is indeed polystyrene (typical material of plastic models, and white sheet stock from Evergreen or Plastruct (their grey is ABS, IIRC)), you should be able to use either CA adhesive or a rubber-based adhesive such as Walthers "Goo".  I am a bit of a Luddite, and prefer the Goo instead of the newfangled (for the last 10-15 years or longer) CA.  The Goo never attaches my fingers together.  The CA seems to be preferred by most modelers, and it would probably have the least problem with excess material squeezing out around the detail parts being glued on.  The CA is much faster, which is an advantage if you want the work to progress quickly, and a disadvantage if you want time to adjust the position of the part.  There is a slower-curing CA (which also has a bit more body for filling gaps), which was recommended for a model boat kit I built and which worked wonderfully, but the nozzle tended to clog up horribly.
 
 
 
Jeff Semprebon
Claremont, NH
USA

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#4468 From: "Rod Hutchinson" <r.hutchinson@...>
Date: Fri Sep 8, 2006 1:41 am
Subject: RE: 1:35 "Naworth"
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Johan.

You could try;

Pliobond <http://www.handlaidtrack.com/pliobond.php> or
Weldbond (PVA) <http://www.weldbondusa.com/uses.html>


Regards
Rod Hutchinson
Melbourne, Australia

Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] 1:35 "Naworth"

Hi there

Can anyone tell me how to glue metal (brass nuts) to polystyrene.

tnx in advance.

with kind regards, Johan

#4469 From: Kevin <kcrosado@...>
Date: Fri Sep 8, 2006 11:44 am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1094
krustysimplex
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On 7/09/2006, at 5:59 AM, FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> Of course you al know that two
> component epoxyresin glue does'nt stick to polystyrene. Well, i
> did'nt. I had to learn it from "hair rippin" experience. Can anyone
> tell me how to glue metal (brass nuts) to polystyrene.

Gidday Johan

I assume you're trying to attach a nut somewhere out of sight to
secure the mechanism. A useful trick in this sort of situation is to
use a piece of copier paper between the brass and the styrene. Stick
the paper to the styrene with solvent -- if you hold it in place and
flood with solvent the surface of the styrene will melt and soak into
the paper (push the paper hard against the styrene to help force the
molten styrene into it). Once the solvent has evaporated you can
epoxy the brass to the paper.

If the nut is indeed to take a fixing screw it would also be wise to
drill out a clearance hole in the styrene above the nut. If the screw
can come through into contact with the styrene it will jack the nut
off (stop giggling at the back of the class) whatever you use to
secure it.


________________

Kevin Crosado
De Selby Research

#4470 From: "jh_afman" <jh_afman@...>
Date: Fri Sep 8, 2006 9:24 pm
Subject: Re: 1:35 "Naworth"
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Hi guys,

thanks for your quick response, I hope to show you some pictures
soon. As far as the pliobond is concerned, i don't know if it's
available in the Netherlands. I tried to find it on the net but no
result. Any ideas from the dutch contributors? Or are you lot at the
"smalspoormodelbouwweekend" in Valkenburg

I might have found something similar to pliobond at

http://www.mesaproducts.nl/UKind.html

I sent them the same question, so i will let you know when i have
their answer. Maybe i just have to use another two part epoxy.
Anyway the slicone seems worth trying to start with.

kind regards, Johan

#4471 From: "jh_afman" <jh_afman@...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2006 7:27 am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1094
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Hi Kevin

> I assume you're trying to attach a nut somewhere out of sight to
> secure the mechanism.

You got it absolutely right. It's for fixing the schratchbuilt body
to an existing Fleischmann chassis. I thought i had it all sorted
out but it did'nt work out that way. I'l put some pictures of the
progress in the photo section.

kind regards, Johan

#4472 From: "kkimmarsh" <kkimmarsh@...>
Date: Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:05 am
Subject: new motars for magic trains
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hello everybody i have a question has anybody had experience putting
new 5 pole motars into 0e magic train engines .the have 3 pole engines
installed  are ok but a better class of motar would suit the great
motions of there steam engines.last night i decided to grease my
wheels bad move i ended up buggering up everything so with a rebuild
coming up i will try to improve its performance .any idears all the
best kim sydney ,australia.

#4473 From: "Lennart Elg" <len_elg@...>
Date: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:46 am
Subject: Re: new motars for magic trains
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--- In FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com, "kkimmarsh" <kkimmarsh@...>
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> hello everybody i have a question has anybody had experience putting
> new 5 pole motars into 0e magic train engines .the have 3 pole engines
> installed  are ok but a better class of motar would suit the great
> motions of there steam engines.

Kim,

The German firm Lokfuehrer Lukas ( http://www.lokfuehrer-lukas-
shop.de/) sell a remotoring kit based on a Faulhaber coreless motor, at
78 Euro + shipping. It is a bit hard to find on their website, but go
to the webshop and look under Webshop/Spur 1 Feldbahn/Lokomotiven. It
is listed at the bottom of the locomotive page, but without any
illustration.

/ Lennart

#4474 From: vsons@...
Date: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:22 am
Subject: Pliobond - WAS Re: Re: 1:35 "Naworth"
yah_hoo_sucks
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In a message dated 9/8/2006 5:24:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jh_afman@... writes:
As far as the pliobond is concerned, i don't know if it's
available in the Netherlands.
I believe that Walthers "Goo" is the same thing, a sort of tough, pre-CA rubber based adhesive, but made by Goodyear and sold through hardware stores, rather than hobby stores.  It is possible that, like the rubber cement they let us children happily play with in school years ago, it has since been somewhat restricted as the hazards of the solvents have become better known. 
 
 
 
Jeff Semprebon
Claremont, NH
USA

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#4475 From: "Hubert Wetekamp" <hubert@...>
Date: Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:00 pm
Subject: Re: new motars for magic trains
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Hello Kim,

their is also the german dealer SB-Modellbau (http://www.sb-modellbau.com), who
has
conversion-kits for the magic-train-engines.

They have the following kits:

# 14040 for the steam-engine
# 14043 for the diesel-engine

Both kits cost 68.60 EUR plus shipping.

The steam-engine kit is rated grade II, which means, you have to saw and file
something.
The diesel-engine kit is rated grade III, which means, you have to mill some
parts for the
conversion.

Shipping-costs are (based on a weight of 1-3 kg):

Germany, Austria, Belgium, Netherlands Euro 8.70
Switzerland, Danmark, Lichtenstein, Italy, Sweden Euro 16.80
all other countries Euro 25.00

Payment from outside Germany only on a bank-account at the Postbank Munich.

Greetings

Hubert from Germany

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#4476 From: "r101g1e1r" <mmfield@...>
Date: Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:02 am
Subject: Resistance Soldering
r101g1e1r
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Anyone know where I can obtain a reasonably priced Resistance
Soldering System?. Dean Sidings show one on their web, but I suspect
they are no longer trading as the contact information given is not
recognised. The only ones I could find on the web are American but at
over £500 are far to expensive for just a hobby.
Regards Roger

#4477 From: Michel Louis MASSOT <ml.massot@...>
Date: Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:24 am
Subject: Re: Resistance Soldering
ma2sot
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Look at this french site

http://www.alp2m.free.fr/

They have one and the price is about 295 €; I mail you the french notice on
their site

Michel




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> Anyone know where I can obtain a reasonably priced Resistance
> Soldering System?. Dean Sidings show one on their web, but I suspect
> they are no longer trading as the contact information given is not
> recognised. The only ones I could find on the web are American but at
> over £500 are far to expensive for just a hobby.
> Regards Roger
>
>
>
>
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#4478 From: "Terry Bradley" <tbradley@...>
Date: Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:58 am
Subject: Re: Resistance Soldering
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The Von Stapp Forgings Co-Op vonstrapp@... have a nice one
complete with leads and foot switch for NZ$500.00 plus P&P
Regards
Terry Bradley



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wrote:
>
> Anyone know where I can obtain a reasonably priced Resistance
> Soldering System?. Dean Sidings show one on their web, but I suspect
> they are no longer trading as the contact information given is not
> recognised. The only ones I could find on the web are American but
at
> over £500 are far to expensive for just a hobby.
> Regards Roger
>

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Date: Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:24 am
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#4480 From: Evan & Correne James <bce@...>
Date: Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:14 am
Subject: : Resistance Soldering
da1400
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That's $329US or 174 British pounds. You have to add postage to that,
but we don't charge the earth at Von Strapp

evan



> From: "Terry Bradley" <tbradley@...>
> Date: September 15, 2006 12:58:41 PM GMT+12:00
> To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] Re: Resistance Soldering
> Reply-To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
>
> The Von Stapp Forgings Co-Op vonstrapp@... have a nice one
>  complete with leads and foot switch for NZ$500.00 plus P&P
>  Regards
>  Terry Bradley
>
>  --- In FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com, "r101g1e1r" <mmfield@...>
>  wrote:
>  >
>  > Anyone know where I can obtain a reasonably priced Resistance
>  > Soldering System?. Dean Sidings show one on their web, but I suspect
>  > they are no longer trading as the contact information given is not
>  > recognised. The only ones I could find on the web are American but
>  at
>  > over £500 are far to expensive for just a hobby.
>  > Regards Roger
>  >
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#4481 From: "Otto Schouwstra" <postbus@...>
Date: Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:36 am
Subject: Re: : Resistance Soldering
ossynths
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Is this unit available for 230 Volt?

Otto.




--- In FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com, Evan & Correne James
<bce@...> wrote:
>
> That's $329US or 174 British pounds. You have to add postage to
that,
> but we don't charge the earth at Von Strapp
>
> evan
>
>
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> > From: "Terry Bradley" <tbradley@...>
> > Date: September 15, 2006 12:58:41 PM GMT+12:00
> > To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] Re: Resistance Soldering
> > Reply-To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > The Von Stapp Forgings Co-Op vonstrapp@... have a nice one
> >  complete with leads and foot switch for NZ$500.00 plus P&P
> >  Regards
> >  Terry Bradley
> >
> >  --- In FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com, "r101g1e1r" <mmfield@>
> >  wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Anyone know where I can obtain a reasonably priced Resistance
> >  > Soldering System?. Dean Sidings show one on their web, but I
suspect
> >  > they are no longer trading as the contact information given
is not
> >  > recognised. The only ones I could find on the web are
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> >  > over £500 are far to expensive for just a hobby.
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#4482 From: "r101g1e1r" <mmfield@...>
Date: Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:41 am
Subject: Resistance Soldering Systems
r101g1e1r
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Many thanks to all for the information you supplied about Resistance
Soldering, I should now be able to make a reasonably informed decision
on the way forward. Many thanks once again for your assistance.

Regards Roger

#4483 From: Evan & Correne James <bce@...>
Date: Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:15 pm
Subject: Resistance Soldering
da1400
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We run 240 volts in NZ, so 230 shouldn't be a problem

evan



> Is this unit available for 230 Volt?
>
>  Otto.
>
>  --- In FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com, Evan & Correne James
>  <bce@...> wrote:
>  >
>  > That's $329US or 174 British pounds. You have to add postage to
>  that,
>  > but we don't charge the earth at Von Strapp
>  >
>  > evan

#4484 From: Russell J Postlewaight <russell.unfire@...>
Date: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:34 pm
Subject: RE: Resistance Soldering
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Ev,

 

It’s a nominal 240v – tested it lately? We are paying top dollar for power somewhere between 215v & 240v.

Why do you think surge protectors are a great idea for your computer?

 

Russell

 


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Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 1:16 a.m.
To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] Resistance Soldering

 

We run 240 volts in NZ, so 230 shouldn't be a problem

evan


Is this unit available for 230 Volt?

Otto.

--- In FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com, Evan & Correne James
<bce@...> wrote:
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> That's $329US or 174 British pounds. You have to add postage to
that,
> but we don't charge the earth at Von Strapp
>
> evan

 

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#4485 From: "Alastair Neil" <al@...>
Date: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:46 pm
Subject: RE: Resistance Soldering
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Sorry Ev, just a little correction,
Our mains supply = 230v. A.C. Australia = 240v. A.C.
We and the Aussies use the same type of mains fittings [ 3 pin plugs etc.]
Roger would just have to fit a British type mains plug as they are quite different to ours.
In fact the transformers would operate quite happily in the range of 220v - 240v. as is, but if anybody with a different
mains voltage wanted a soldering unit we could just ask our transformer winder to make a transformer to suit.
Al. Hardie Neil


From: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Evan & Correne James
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 1:16 AM
To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] Resistance Soldering

We run 240 volts in NZ, so 230 shouldn't be a problem

evan



Is this unit available for 230 Volt?

Otto.

--- In FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com, Evan & Correne James
<bce@...> wrote:
>
> That's $329US or 174 British pounds. You have to add postage to
that,
> but we don't charge the earth at Von Strapp
>
> evan

#4486 From: "Alastair Neil" <al@...>
Date: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:21 am
Subject: RE: Resistance Soldering
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Russell,
I can understand you Southerners needing all the surge and spike protection you can get.
Why do you think it is called Windy Wellington ?
When a force 10 southerly hits Wellington the power lines swing so much they short together and the
power poles fall down as well.
We dont have those sorts of problems much, north of the Bombay Hills.
Al. Hardie Neil.


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Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 11:34 AM
To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FS32NGModelrail] Resistance Soldering

Ev,

It’s a nominal 240v – tested it lately? We are paying top dollar for power somewhere between 215v & 240v.

Why do you think surge protectors are a great idea for your computer?

Russell


From: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Evan & Correne James
Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 1:16 a.m.
To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] Resistance Soldering

We run 240 volts in NZ, so 230 shouldn't be a problem

evan


Is this unit available for 230 Volt?

Otto.

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<bce@...> wrote:
>
> That's $329US or 174 British pounds. You have to add postage to
that,
> but we don't charge the earth at Von Strapp
>
> evan

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#4487 From: Kevin <kcrosado@...>
Date: Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:53 am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1101
krustysimplex
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On 17/09/2006, at 3:50 AM, Al. Hardie-Neil wrote:

> When a force 10 southerly hits Wellington the power lines swing so
> much
> they short together and the
> power poles fall down as well.
> We dont have those sorts of problems much, north of the Bombay Hills.


That's because your sub-stations black out first.


_________________

Krusty of Kiriwai Road

#4488 From: Russell J Postlewaight <russell.unfire@...>
Date: Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:20 am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1101
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Touché Krusty

R


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Subject: Re: [FS32NGModelrail] Digest Number 1101


| On 17/09/2006, at 3:50 AM, Al. Hardie-Neil wrote:
|
| > When a force 10 southerly hits Wellington the power lines swing so
| > much
| > they short together and the
| > power poles fall down as well.
| > We dont have those sorts of problems much, north of the Bombay Hills.
|
|
| That's because your sub-stations black out first.
|
|
| _________________
|
| Krusty of Kiriwai Road
|
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#4489 From: "jh_afman" <jh_afman@...>
Date: Wed Oct 4, 2006 7:30 pm
Subject: modeling rivets
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I suppose this question comes up every once in a while. I tried the
pva glue method but not to satisfying result. I think the glue is
too thin which causes it to run out making a far too big rivet. Can
any of you tell me the secrets about modeling rivets?

Oh by the way, glueing the brass nut to styrene worked out well in
the end for Naworth, I found another kind of ca produced by MESA.
It's amazing how many type's of ca you can buy. Thanks again for all
your help.

kind regards, Johan

#4490 From: "Alastair Neil" <al@...>
Date: Thu Oct 5, 2006 1:11 am
Subject: FW: modeling rivets
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Hello again Johan,
I think the pins I was suggesting are called Entomology pins.
Rgds.,
Al. H.N.

 

From: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jh_afman
Sent: Thursday, 5 October 2006 8:46 a.m.
To: michaelh
Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] modeling rivets

I suppose this question comes up every once in a while. I tried the
pva glue method but not to satisfying result. I think the glue is
too thin which causes it to run out making a far too big rivet. Can
any of you tell me the secrets about modeling rivets?

Oh by the way, glueing the brass nut to styrene worked out well in
the end for Naworth, I found another kind of ca produced by MESA.
It's amazing how many type's of ca you can buy. Thanks again for all
your help.

kind regards, Johan


#4491 From: "Alastair Neil" <al@...>
Date: Thu Oct 5, 2006 1:09 am
Subject: FW: modeling rivets
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From: Alastair Neil


Hi Johan,
I use pin heads to represent rivets and bolt heads.
They are the sort used for medical/laboratory work and come in a variety of sizes and different 
head diameters. 
You will need to drill a small hole to match the diameter of the pin shaft that you choose, then hold
the pin by the head with a haemostat and snip the shaft back so it is just 1 or 2 mm long, then put
a teeny weeny lick of ca or nail varnish or what have you on the end of the cut shaft and press it
into the hole and Bingo !
If you are forming rivets in flat sheet brass or similar then Paul Berntsen of The Model Company
makes a very nice rivet press which works very well.
Hope this helps,
Kind rgds.,
Al. Hardie Neil 

From: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jh_afman
Sent: Thursday, 5 October 2006 8:46 a.m.
To: michaelh
Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] modeling rivets

I suppose this question comes up every once in a while. I tried the
pva glue method but not to satisfying result. I think the glue is
too thin which causes it to run out making a far too big rivet. Can
any of you tell me the secrets about modeling rivets?

Oh by the way, glueing the brass nut to styrene worked out well in
the end for Naworth, I found another kind of ca produced by MESA.
It's amazing how many type's of ca you can buy. Thanks again for all
your help.

kind regards, Johan


#4492 From: "jh_afman" <jh_afman@...>
Date: Thu Oct 5, 2006 10:26 pm
Subject: Re: FW: modeling rivets
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Hi Alastair Neil,

Ok now that is an idea, I found a Dutch company which sells these
in bulk, 100 pcs per package at 2,80 euro's. (seems fair enough)

http://www.vermandel.com/

They come in different sizes from 0,1 to 0,7 mm in 0,05 mm
increments. The smalest sizes come in 500 per package. By the way,
in Holland these are called "insekten spelden" (insect needles).
Drilling the pilot holes seems simple enough so I'll give it a try.

Tomorrow I'm going to order me some pins.

thanks, kind regards, Johan

#4493 From: Kevin <kcrosado@...>
Date: Thu Oct 5, 2006 11:05 am
Subject: Modelling rivets
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On 5/10/2006, at 9:23 PM, FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> Can
> any of you tell me the secrets about modeling rivets?

Gidday Johan

You can emboss rivets very well in sheet styrene using a suitable
punch and die set. Alternatively Tichy Train Group in the US makes
some very nice moulded plastic rivet heads in sizes from 0.020 inch
to 0.080 inch diameter. The 0.025 inch diameter size works out well
for a 'typical' locomotive rivet in 1:32 scale (equivalent to about
20mm dia full size). You can also slice the moulded rivets off a
suitable plastic kit (Grant/Lee tank kits are a good, well-pimpled,
source) and stick them to your model with solvent -- make sure it's
made from well-cleaned styrene, though, or you may have trouble
getting them to stick properly, which quickly gets to be extremely
frustrating.


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#4494 From: Kevin <kcrosado@...>
Date: Fri Oct 6, 2006 12:22 pm
Subject: Hope Coast Railway
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Hello folks, calling folks

A bloke by the name of David Bromage has posted 313 photos of last
weekend's model railway exhibition in Sydney, Oz,  at
<http://dbromage.omni.com.au/gallery/view_album.php?
set_albumName=sydney2006>
Photos 140 -- 145 are of Kim Marsh's Hope Coast Railway, in the One
True Scale. Easiest way to get to them is to click on the "full poll
results" link at the top left corner of the page, then click on the
first link to Hope Coast on the list that comes up. Otherwise you'll
have to tab through 139 pictures of standard gauge stuff to get to
Kim's model.....


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De Selby Research

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