Thanks Don, You continue to amaze me with your insight of human nature. We all have an opinion of these high stakes tests, and these discussions are beneficial...
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Marion Brady
mbrady22@...
Feb 1, 2001 12:19 pm
David Stone's summary of Osceola's problems lends credence to the theory that societies eventually self-destruct because their bureaucracies become so complex...
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Marion Brady
mbrady22@...
Feb 1, 2001 12:32 pm
... How true! That post a couple of days ago quoting John Holt was really pretty revealing (and discouraging). He made so much sense so long ago, and yet had...
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David Stone
david_stone@...
Feb 1, 2001 1:05 pm
Well said, Marion! Thanks for the insight.....I'll be talking to you soon. DS "Marion Brady" <mbrady22@...> on 02/01/2001 02:17:48 AM Please respond to...
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Marion Brady
mbrady22@...
Feb 1, 2001 1:15 pm
I got the following from a teacher who said if I wished I could pass it on. Marion ____________________ Some thoughts on several current threads: I believe all...
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Theresa McCormick
mccorm@...
Feb 1, 2001 1:59 pm
OK, the subject line is kind of misleading. The testing was fine. My son, on the other hand, was obviously physically there but mentally somewhere else. Back...
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Brown, Brewser
brewser.brown@...
Feb 1, 2001 2:34 pm
I believe if you can't do the basics you can't do the other kinds of writing. ... From: John G Clarke [mailto:jgclarke@...] Sent: Wednesday, January 31,...
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Brown, Brewser
brewser.brown@...
Feb 1, 2001 2:34 pm
Sorry to hear that. Thanks. ... From: Sheryl King [mailto:sking25@...] Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 9:46 PM To: FL-SAC@yahoogroups.com Subject:...
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Brown, Brewser
brewser.brown@...
Feb 1, 2001 2:34 pm
Not dancing at all and yes I have been in many public schools all over the state. Again if FL Writes! is a bad test isn't it funny we never heard that before...
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Frank Caggiano
odonata_00@...
Feb 1, 2001 5:36 pm
Don, I mean no disrespect and I can understand what you are trying to do by suggesting this but I have to tell you I'm strongly against the practice. And if...
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Frank Caggiano
odonata_00@...
Feb 1, 2001 6:15 pm
Marion, Yes Holt has been to much ignored. To think that he was writing about these same issues back in the late 50's is, well, discouraging to say the least. ...
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Frank Caggiano
odonata_00@...
Feb 1, 2001 8:02 pm
Linda, I suppose your question was directed to me. While there are connections between Logo, the programming language, and Lego, the construction set, they are...
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Theresa McCormick
mccorm@...
Feb 1, 2001 9:35 pm
Identifying is definitely NOT required but, for us who have been with this group since the inception, 10/30/99, it helps to understand the different...
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Merri Mann
Merri@...
Feb 1, 2001 9:39 pm
Hallelujah! ... From: Marion Brady [mailto:mbrady22@...] Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 8:54 AM To: FL-SAC@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FL-SAC] That...
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Merri Mann
Merri@...
Feb 1, 2001 9:40 pm
Brewser, it is my understanding that the 2.7 billion is sitting up there somewhere in Tally and there are so many roadblocks that districts have been unable to...
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Brown, Brewser
brewser.brown@...
Feb 1, 2001 10:17 pm
I believe that approximately $2 billion has been spent. DOE could give you the exact figure. ... From: Merri Mann [mailto:Merri@...] Sent: Thursday,...
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Marion Brady
mbrady22@...
Feb 1, 2001 11:00 pm
... Paideia ... Frank, The Paideia Proposal is on my bookshelves. I was introduced to Adler during a long train ride back in the 40s. I was in the navy,...
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Nina Camp
ncvan@...
Feb 1, 2001 11:17 pm
... From: commissioner@... Date sent: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 16:03:25 -0500 Subject: CENTRAL FLORIDA REGIONAL OFFICE To:...
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Nina Camp
ncvan@...
Feb 1, 2001 11:18 pm
... Date sent: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 16:26:44 -0500 From: "FL. Dept. of Education" <commissioner@...> Subject: Florida League...
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Don Goodall
dunedindon@...
Feb 2, 2001 12:38 am
Marion:This is a follow-on to your quotation of an unidentified teacher in which he/she says: "I believe all parents care." From Dr. Laurence Steinberg's...
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Don Goodall
dunedindon@...
Feb 2, 2001 12:49 am
To Frank Caggiano: No disrespect felt nor intended. I simply suggest to e-groupers that in order for us individually to assess what we are saying to one...
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DWMINERESQ@...
Feb 2, 2001 12:51 am
Theresa, thank you for sharing your story about your son. Your words do a lot to caution us about how test results should be used . . . . very carefully. Dave...
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John Perry
soulrebel@...
Feb 2, 2001 1:42 am
I'm not even coming close to contradicting myself. Who said that the state is manipulating scores upwards? See what I mean? You keep dancing around and...
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DWMINERESQ@...
Feb 2, 2001 1:42 am
The Manatee County School District is scheduled to meet with the area legislators tomorrow, 2/2/01 at 2:00 p.m. I don't know if the general public, such as I...
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Frank Caggiano
odonata_00@...
Feb 2, 2001 1:50 am
Marion, I'm not sure if I read your post correctly so please correct me if I am wrong. As I understand what you wrote you seem to be implying that the Paideia ...
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John Perry
soulrebel@...
Feb 2, 2001 1:55 am
... Noreen, "teaching to the test" is a natural by-product of high-stakes testing. So it seems obvious how to get rid of "teaching to the test". John Perry ...
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Theresa McCormick
mccorm@...
Feb 2, 2001 2:06 am
Consequence for not following state law regarding school improvement funds. You would be surprised at how many emails I get privately about this. We have a...
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John Perry
soulrebel@...
Feb 2, 2001 2:13 am
Actually, I don't recall ever saying that FCAT Writes is a "bad test". I am simply stating the realities that come from such a test. I have never stated FCAT...
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Frank Caggiano
odonata_00@...
Feb 2, 2001 2:16 am
Don, Not to beat a dead horse here, but .... My fear with this is that the group splinters along identities. One group not giving credence to another groups...
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John Perry
soulrebel@...
Feb 2, 2001 2:56 am
Well, John, why is it that we can't look at these tests with open eyes? I have NEVER said that they should be done away with. I AM strongly opposed to how...
