Hello,

I've seen folks here recommend wearing shapewear to firm up the figure beneath
some costumes.  I haven't been impressed with the cheap stuff.  What would you
say is the best brand/type to buy?  I'm interested in something that would go
from the ribcage to derriere, and could be unsnapped/unhooked between the legs
so that bathroom breaks aren't such a formidably lengthy adventure.  Something
that doesn't attach between the legs is unfortunately not an option, since my
hips are so much larger than my waist, as soon as I move, unattached shapewear
merrily rolls upward (I speak with the voice of bitter experience).  I'd like
something that'd just firm and support a bit, not cut off all blood circulation
to the point of gangrene. :D

Many thanks,

Anna M.C.

I've never had any luck getting shapeware by catalog.... I think it's a
matter of just going in to places and trying things on.

You're right about cheap doesn't really work... get something that's not
bargain basement, and you can have it around for years.

You may also want to consider 2 piece outfits... a long legged pant and
long waisted bra.

I only know plus sizes really.  Catherines.com has stores, at least out
here on the west coast.  And I love (ok, maybe that's a bit too strong),
their Serenada line of underthings... Or, should I phrase it, it's
patterned by someone who's been large... and knows how things fit
differently.

Here's the link for what they call their bodybrefer - Bra though panti,
snaps
http://catherines.lanebryant.com/intimates/shapewear/serenada-reg-8142-bodybrief\
er/4574c4584p52718/index.pro

Just the high waist long leg here:
http://catherines.lanebryant.com/intimates/shapewear/serenada-reg-c19-hi-waist-t\
high-shaper/4574c4584p41656/index.pro

and they have a few others in between those two extremes.

If the links are too long, just go into Intimates, then shapeware

Looking for something to wear all day and reduce some of the jiggle
(works w/ even jeans)...
http://catherines.lanebryant.com/intimates/panties/shaping/light-control-brief/4\
574c4582c14656p52660/index.pro


The whole concept of shapeware is changing... none of these are the icky
elastic cages of ole'.  One of the reason to try these on, you can often
look just as good by going up one size.  You're wearing these to smooth
and stop the giggle... not to go down a size or 3.   It's moving your
assets around and giving you a better line.... want reduction... go to a
Victorian corset, lines... these you'll breath in.

If you needed something in standard sizes, someone else may have
suggestions.

-Cat-

Hi folks,

Going on from the Shapewear discussion, I thought I'd ask a similar question. 
I'm making a Harley Quinn outfit for a friend and I'm debating what she
could/should wear underneath it and what I should maybe look at building into it
to help keep it smooth.

For those not familiar, Harley Quinn is a Batman villaness whose traditional
costume is a black and red harlequin unitard with horned cap and collar.  
Physically, the character is very athletic and flexible - like a gymnast.   My
friend is quite petite and slender but has a curvy shape.  She's a 32C and about
an (aussie) 8-10 in size.  She's not very lumpy, so she doesn't need massive
amounts of sucking in or reshaping or anything like that but I do want the
costume to have nice smooth lines and give her some support BUT also allow her
to maintain full flexibility.  I've got the top half sorted, but I started
wondering about the bottom half - all I could find in the shops was shapewear
that came to the knees or mid thigh and that looked quite thick and
heavyweight.  I'm making the costume out of lycra/spandex so it will move and
bend with the wearer and none of the things I saw today would keep that sort of
flexibility.

I think my friend would probably be able to manage okay with just a nice fitting
thong underneath, but I'd like to make the costume as smooth and supportive as
possible but I don't want to sacrifice too much flexibility and movement.

Any advice, oh wonderful group of experienced costumers???

Resha.





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anna, I was also going to suggest a 2piece arrangement - and I'll tell
you why: I have worn both. And while the crotch snaps are extremely
important, I"m not built like an orangutan and I found it extremely
difficult to re-snap it after the bathroom visit! Unsnapping is easy,
re-snapping is a contortion excersize (especially in full costume). So I
switched to 2 pieces. I found I'm short enough that a panty girdle tends
to be high enough at the waist to reach my normal bra, so I didn't need
a long-line one, and while it's a bit of wrestling getting the thing on,
it was still easier than trying to re-snap. YMMV. Definitely need to go
to a store and try them on. I also found that sizes on foundation
garments bore little reality to RtW sizing for clothing. While I wore 2x
clothes at the time, the girdle was a ...5x? so unless you like trying
on and mailing back.... go to a store. hassle, but necessary.

	 -Judy

Anna M.C. wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've seen folks here recommend wearing shapewear to firm up the figure beneath
some costumes.  I haven't been impressed with the cheap stuff.  What would you
say is the best brand/type to buy?  I'm interested in something that would go
from the ribcage to derriere, and could be unsnapped/unhooked between the legs
so that bathroom breaks aren't such a formidably lengthy adventure.  Something
that doesn't attach between the legs is unfortunately not an option, since my
hips are so much larger than my waist, as soon as I move, unattached shapewear
merrily rolls upward (I speak with the voice of bitter experience).  I'd like
something that'd just firm and support a bit, not cut off all blood circulation
to the point of gangrene. :D
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Anna M.C.

Hi Resha,
	 I work with spandex all the time these days. from my experience,
anything you wear beneath it is going to leave a visible edge line.  If
you want to build in support and don't want anything to show, you will
need to block it so that the edges go out to the seams (no strappy
anything, go all the way to the armscye). So basically, you'd be making
a double-suit although you could skip the arms. that's the thing with
spandex, it clings tightly so..... though, if you're going for movie
repro, it's wrinkly and ill-fitting enough that lines probably wont' be
a problem. If you want it to look more like the illustrations....
foundation lines will  likely show.

	 -Judy

Naresha wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Going on from the Shapewear discussion, I thought I'd ask a similar question. 
I'm making a Harley Quinn outfit for a friend and I'm debating what she
could/should wear underneath it and what I should maybe look at building into it
to help keep it smooth.
>
> For those not familiar, Harley Quinn is a Batman villaness whose traditional
costume is a black and red harlequin unitard with horned cap and collar.  
Physically, the character is very athletic and flexible - like a gymnast.   My
friend is quite petite and slender but has a curvy shape.  She's a 32C and about
an (aussie) 8-10 in size.  She's not very lumpy, so she doesn't need massive
amounts of sucking in or reshaping or anything like that but I do want the
costume to have nice smooth lines and give her some support BUT also allow her
to maintain full flexibility.  I've got the top half sorted, but I started
wondering about the bottom half - all I could find in the shops was shapewear
that came to the knees or mid thigh and that looked quite thick and heavyweight.
I'm making the costume out of lycra/spandex so it will move and bend with the
wearer and none of the things I saw today would keep that sort of flexibility.
>
> I think my friend would probably be able to manage okay with just a nice
fitting thong underneath, but I'd like to make the costume as smooth and
supportive as possible but I don't want to sacrifice too much flexibility and
movement.
>
> Any advice, oh wonderful group of experienced costumers???
>
> Resha.

Hey Judy,
Thanks for the reply!  What I'm doing for the top will indeed go all the way to
the seams - but I think I'll need to work on the arms, it's got straps.  BUT it
does have a nice big flouncy collar on it, which will help to hide a lot of the
lines up top.  For reasons known only to my unconscious mind, I only thought
about bra lines, not panty lines!  Until today at least.

Harley has never been in a movie, just cartoons and comics, so it's pretty much
the "spray on" look that she has.  Some versions are more sprayed on than others
though.  I'm quite happy to have some degree of wrinkle etc in it because -
short of body painting the person wearing it, the suit is never going to have
that overly perfect second skin look of a comic book.

What would you suggest making the "undersuit" out of?  It's actually a 4 pane
construction as per most  harlequin outfits, but the line of this one cuts under
the bust.  I had been hoping to construct a bit of an undersuit out of store
bought underwear garments because this is one of about half a dozen projects I
need to complete and I'm rapidly running out of time sadly.





--- On Sat, 1/5/10, Judy Mitchell <judymitch@...> wrote:

From: Judy Mitchell <judymitch@...>
Subject: Re: [F-Costume] Underwear for under unitards?
To: F-Costume@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, 1 May, 2010, 11:09 PM







 









       Hi Resha,

	 I work with spandex all the time these days. from my experience,

anything you wear beneath it is going to leave a visible edge line.  If

you want to build in support and don't want anything to show, you will

need to block it so that the edges go out to the seams (no strappy

anything, go all the way to the armscye). So basically, you'd be making

a double-suit although you could skip the arms. that's the thing with

spandex, it clings tightly so..... though, if you're going for movie

repro, it's wrinkly and ill-fitting enough that lines probably wont' be

a problem. If you want it to look more like the illustrations. ...

foundation lines will  likely show.



	 -Judy



Naresha wrote:

> Hi folks,

>

> Going on from the Shapewear discussion, I thought I'd ask a similar question. 
I'm making a Harley Quinn outfit for a friend and I'm debating what she
could/should wear underneath it and what I should maybe look at building into it
to help keep it smooth.

>

> For those not familiar, Harley Quinn is a Batman villaness whose traditional
costume is a black and red harlequin unitard with horned cap and collar.  
Physically, the character is very athletic and flexible - like a gymnast.   My
friend is quite petite and slender but has a curvy shape.  She's a 32C and about
an (aussie) 8-10 in size.  She's not very lumpy, so she doesn't need massive
amounts of sucking in or reshaping or anything like that but I do want the
costume to have nice smooth lines and give her some support BUT also allow her
to maintain full flexibility.  I've got the top half sorted, but I started
wondering about the bottom half - all I could find in the shops was shapewear
that came to the knees or mid thigh and that looked quite thick and heavyweight.
I'm making the costume out of lycra/spandex so it will move and bend with the
wearer and none of the things I saw today would keep that sort of flexibility.

>

> I think my friend would probably be able to manage okay with just a nice
fitting thong underneath, but I'd like to make the costume as smooth and
supportive as possible but I don't want to sacrifice too much flexibility and
movement.

>

> Any advice, oh wonderful group of experienced costumers???

>

> Resha.







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hey Judy,
Thanks for the reply!  What I'm doing for the top will indeed go all the way to
the seams - but I think I'll need to work on the arms, it's got straps.  BUT it
does have a nice big flouncy collar on it, which will help to hide a lot of the
lines up top.  For reasons known only to my unconscious mind, I only thought
about bra lines, not panty lines!  Until today at least.

Harley has never been in a movie, just cartoons and comics, so it's pretty much
the "spray on" look that she has.  Some versions are more sprayed on than others
though.  I'm quite happy to have some degree of wrinkle etc in it because -
short of body painting the person wearing it, the suit is never going to have
that overly perfect second skin look of a comic book.

What would you suggest making the "undersuit" out of?  It's actually a 4 pane
construction as per most  harlequin outfits, but the line of this one cuts under
the bust.  I had been hoping to construct a bit of an undersuit out of store
bought underwear garments because this is one of about half a dozen projects I
need to complete and I'm rapidly running out of time sadly.





--- On Sat, 1/5/10, Judy Mitchell <judymitch@...> wrote:

From: Judy Mitchell <judymitch@...>
Subject: Re: [F-Costume] Underwear for under unitards?
To: F-Costume@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, 1 May, 2010, 11:09 PM







 









       Hi Resha,

	 I work with spandex all the time these days. from my experience,

anything you wear beneath it is going to leave a visible edge line.  If

you want to build in support and don't want anything to show, you will

need to block it so that the edges go out to the seams (no strappy

anything, go all the way to the armscye). So basically, you'd be making

a double-suit although you could skip the arms. that's the thing with

spandex, it clings tightly so..... though, if you're going for movie

repro, it's wrinkly and ill-fitting enough that lines probably wont' be

a problem. If you want it to look more like the illustrations. ...

foundation lines will  likely show.



	 -Judy



Naresha wrote:

> Hi folks,

>

> Going on from the Shapewear discussion, I thought I'd ask a similar question. 
I'm making a Harley Quinn outfit for a friend and I'm debating what she
could/should wear underneath it and what I should maybe look at building into it
to help keep it smooth.

>

> For those not familiar, Harley Quinn is a Batman villaness whose traditional
costume is a black and red harlequin unitard with horned cap and collar.  
Physically, the character is very athletic and flexible - like a gymnast.   My
friend is quite petite and slender but has a curvy shape.  She's a 32C and about
an (aussie) 8-10 in size.  She's not very lumpy, so she doesn't need massive
amounts of sucking in or reshaping or anything like that but I do want the
costume to have nice smooth lines and give her some support BUT also allow her
to maintain full flexibility.  I've got the top half sorted, but I started
wondering about the bottom half - all I could find in the shops was shapewear
that came to the knees or mid thigh and that looked quite thick and heavyweight.
I'm making the costume out of lycra/spandex so it will move and bend with the
wearer and none of the things I saw today would keep that sort of flexibility.

>

> I think my friend would probably be able to manage okay with just a nice
fitting thong underneath, but I'd like to make the costume as smooth and
supportive as possible but I don't want to sacrifice too much flexibility and
movement.

>

> Any advice, oh wonderful group of experienced costumers???

>

> Resha.







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This stems from the shapewear thread above, and comes from a guy who
needs a little help exercising the privelege to use spandex in his
costumes without making it look bad.

One thing I've noticed is that most of the shapewear/slimming underwear
out there is geared for female anatomy, but there doesn't seem to be
anything for men to this regard.  To a certain extent, one can get away
with some of the off the shelf stuff found at dancewear shops or the
hoisery aisle in the grocery store, but those items either a) only do so
much (smooth the lines a touch), b) has the waistline rolling down, or
c) just don't fit comfortably for whatever reason.

What I'm looking for is something to this effect for the male anatomy.
As a guy who could use a bit of a "tummy tuck" when wearing a
unitard based costume to at least make it look half way decent (point
of reference: my waist line is about 36"), what is there that would a)
serve the process, b) does not roll down, and c) actually fits
correctly?

-Dennis

On Sat, 1 May 2010 03:04:37 -0700 (PDT)
Naresha <north_shore_fruitcake@...> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Going on from the Shapewear discussion, I thought I'd ask a similar
> question.  I'm making a Harley Quinn outfit for a friend and I'm
> debating what she could/should wear underneath it and what I should
> maybe look at building into it to help keep it smooth.

...gods, I hope this doesn't come off as creepy; it's not often that
men discuss women's underwear to people they don't communicate with
more than infrequently. =-) Nevertheless, I feel I have something to
throw into the pool for you, Naresha.

You and/or your friend can swing by a dancewear shop and get a body
liner from them, both in leotard and unitard varieties - the unitard
variety (resembles a camisole unitard) would likely work best to avoid
a panty line.  Side effect here is that it would smooth down any lines.

They also have bras and briefs that at least tout themselves as
seamless - it might be an idea to try those out and see how they work.

Girls and guys... all need help w/ smoothing. It's an aspect of
costuming that doesn't get discussed enough.

BTW, you'll be surprised what comes up when you google "shapewear for
men" .  A lot of it is sports related, but not all.

Best bet w/o getting complicated might be one of those elastic "under
bust" wraps

Here's a link of pictures.  (BTW, I know nothing about this company...
but it gives you names and pictures for more research.)
http://www.classicshapewear.com/mens-shapewear-c-126.html

Those tank top styles are newer... but you'd get a smoother line.

One warning for guy not used to spandex suits.... DANCEBELT  (or to put
it another way...  remember the Tron Guy?  He still hasn't lived that
costume down.)

Same warning I give gals, don't buy it too tight... you're not trying
for a slim down so much as a smooth down.  It will look better and you
will feel better.

Also, remember to fit the suit w/ the shapeware on.

Gals, the http://www.classicshapewear.com looks good for you to... or at
least showing you what's out there.

-Cat-

Dancebelts yes!   It makes a "statement" for men too!


On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Cat Devereaux <
CatDevereaux@...> wrote:

>
>
> Girls and guys... all need help w/ smoothing. It's an aspect of
> costuming that doesn't get discussed enough.
>
> BTW, you'll be surprised what comes up when you google "shapewear for
> men" . A lot of it is sports related, but not all.
>
> Best bet w/o getting complicated might be one of those elastic "under
> bust" wraps
>
> Here's a link of pictures. (BTW, I know nothing about this company...
> but it gives you names and pictures for more research.)
> http://www.classicshapewear.com/mens-shapewear-c-126.html
>
> Those tank top styles are newer... but you'd get a smoother line.
>
> One warning for guy not used to spandex suits.... DANCEBELT (or to put
> it another way... remember the Tron Guy? He still hasn't lived that
> costume down.)
>
> Same warning I give gals, don't buy it too tight... you're not trying
> for a slim down so much as a smooth down. It will look better and you
> will feel better.
>
> Also, remember to fit the suit w/ the shapeware on.
>
> Gals, the http://www.classicshapewear.com looks good for you to... or at
> least showing you what's out there.
>
> -Cat-
>
>


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Resha,
	 I think you should explore the suggestions you've gotten, see how they
work for you! As to whether Harley has been in a movie... if she hasn't,
apparently she will and has already been done up. Since I googled on the
character and a movie (non-illustration) version came up. Didn't think
terribly much of it, but I guess it goes along with the dumpy childish
look they've been using for things. Really hate that joker style makeup.

	 -Judy

Naresha wrote:
> Hey Judy,
> Thanks for the reply!  What I'm doing for the top will indeed go all the way
to the seams - but I think I'll need to work on the arms, it's got straps.  BUT
it does have a nice big flouncy collar on it, which will help to hide a lot of
the lines up top.  For reasons known only to my unconscious mind, I only thought
about bra lines, not panty lines!  Until today at least.
>
> Harley has never been in a movie, just cartoons and comics, so it's pretty
much the "spray on" look that she has.  Some versions are more sprayed on than
others though.  I'm quite happy to have some degree of wrinkle etc in it because
- short of body painting the person wearing it, the suit is never going to have
that overly perfect second skin look of a comic book.
>
> What would you suggest making the "undersuit" out of?  It's actually a 4 pane
construction as per most  harlequin outfits, but the line of this one cuts under
the bust.  I had been hoping to construct a bit of an undersuit out of store
bought underwear garments because this is one of about half a dozen projects I
need to complete and I'm rapidly running out of time sadly.
>

Dennis,

Here's another suggestion:

http://www.underworks.com/

Dear hubby has the same need for a little "tummy tuck" - we haven't
actually ordered from them, but have it bookmarked for future
reference.  Good luck!

Sandy

At 03:19 PM 5/1/2010, you wrote:
>This stems from the shapewear thread above, and comes from a guy who
>needs a little help exercising the privelege to use spandex in his
>costumes without making it look bad.
>
>What I'm looking for is something to this effect for the male anatomy.
>As a guy who could use a bit of a "tummy tuck" when wearing a
>unitard based costume to at least make it look half way decent (point
>of reference: my waist line is about 36"), what is there that would a)
>serve the process, b) does not roll down, and c) actually fits
>correctly?
>
>-Dennis

"Those Who Fail to Learn History
Are Doomed to Repeat It;
Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly -
Why They Are Simply Doomed."

Achemdro'hm
"The Illusion of Historical Fact"
-- C. Y. 4971

Andromeda

Thanks for the suggestion, Dennis.  I'll definitely look into the body liner -
the seamless bra/top that I had been going to stitch in will only do half the
job.  I hadn't even thought of dance stores, but they'd be a treasure trove of
goodies for this purpose!

Thanks!

--- On Sun, 2/5/10, Dennis Carr <dennisthetiger@...> wrote:

From: Dennis Carr <dennisthetiger@...>
Subject: Re: [F-Costume] Underwear for under unitards?
To: F-Costume@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 2 May, 2010, 6:29 AM







 









       On Sat, 1 May 2010 03:04:37 -0700 (PDT)

Naresha <north_shore_ fruitcake@ yahoo.com. au> wrote:



> Hi folks,

>

> Going on from the Shapewear discussion, I thought I'd ask a similar

> question.  I'm making a Harley Quinn outfit for a friend and I'm

> debating what she could/should wear underneath it and what I should

> maybe look at building into it to help keep it smooth.



...gods, I hope this doesn't come off as creepy; it's not often that

men discuss women's underwear to people they don't communicate with

more than infrequently. =-) Nevertheless, I feel I have something to

throw into the pool for you, Naresha.



You and/or your friend can swing by a dancewear shop and get a body

liner from them, both in leotard and unitard varieties - the unitard

variety (resembles a camisole unitard) would likely work best to avoid

a panty line.  Side effect here is that it would smooth down any lines.



They also have bras and briefs that at least tout themselves as

seamless - it might be an idea to try those out and see how they work.

























[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thanks Judy,

I'm definitely going to look into Dennis' suggestion of dancewear - I hadn't
thought of that, but it's really quite an obvious one to look to! :)  I think
that should work quite well if one of my local dance stores has a liner or at
least any good "seamless" underwear.

Where did you find the Harley pictures can I ask?  All I've found is several
VERY well done fanart posters of actress Kristen Bell in a black and dark red
jumpsuit with a red collar and the Dark Knight Joker style make up.  I've also
seen the same artist do Johnny Depp as a Willy Wonka style Joker and an actress
I don't recognise as Catwoman.


--- On Sun, 2/5/10, Judy Mitchell <judymitch@...> wrote:

From: Judy Mitchell <judymitch@...>
Subject: Re: [F-Costume] Underwear for under unitards?
To: F-Costume@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 2 May, 2010, 12:32 PM







 









       Resha,

	 I think you should explore the suggestions you've gotten, see how they

work for you! As to whether Harley has been in a movie... if she hasn't,

apparently she will and has already been done up. Since I googled on the

character and a movie (non-illustration) version came up. Didn't think

terribly much of it, but I guess it goes along with the dumpy childish

look they've been using for things. Really hate that joker style makeup.



	 -Judy



Naresha wrote:

> Hey Judy,

> Thanks for the reply!  What I'm doing for the top will indeed go all the way
to the seams - but I think I'll need to work on the arms, it's got straps.  BUT
it does have a nice big flouncy collar on it, which will help to hide a lot of
the lines up top.  For reasons known only to my unconscious mind, I only thought
about bra lines, not panty lines!  Until today at least.

>

> Harley has never been in a movie, just cartoons and comics, so it's pretty
much the "spray on" look that she has.  Some versions are more sprayed on than
others though.  I'm quite happy to have some degree of wrinkle etc in it because
- short of body painting the person wearing it, the suit is never going to have
that overly perfect second skin look of a comic book.

>

> What would you suggest making the "undersuit" out of?  It's actually a 4 pane
construction as per most  harlequin outfits, but the line of this one cuts under
the bust.  I had been hoping to construct a bit of an undersuit out of store
bought underwear garments because this is one of about half a dozen projects I
need to complete and I'm rapidly running out of time sadly.

>























[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Kentucky Derby hats

Not a lot a elegant hats this year, but lots of fun creativity.  Note
all the different materials that are used.  Very creative, even on a
limited theme.  Folks are having fun.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1004/kentucky.derby.ha\
ts/content.1.html?hpt=C2

-Cat-



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Harley has never been in a movie, just cartoons and comics, so it's pretty much
the "spray on" look that she has.  Some versions are more sprayed on than others
though.  I'm quite happy to have some degree of wrinkle etc in it because -
short of body painting the person wearing it, the suit is never going to have
that overly perfect second skin look of a comic book.

Actually, I believe the character was in Batman Beyond:The Return of the Joker.
 
I'm sure you could find plenty of stills from that movie on the web for more
ideas.
 
Laurensa




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

reminder that there is a folder in the links section at the yahoo group
site, for costuming resources. These links for foundation garments, etc.
would be great to have there, and it's easy for any group member to add
them. go for it!
S

Pierre & Sandy Pettinger wrote:
>
>
> Dennis,
>
> Here's another suggestion:
>
> http://www.underworks.com/ <http://www.underworks.com/>
>
[snip]

Oooh forgot about that one!  I have actually seen it.  What I meant was that
Harley has never been in a "real person" version of Batman - she's never been
physically portrayed by a real actress and thus never had a real costume made. 
The only references are comics and animation.

--- On Sun, 2/5/10, Dianne Stucki <stuckidianne@...> wrote:

From: Dianne Stucki <stuckidianne@...>
Subject: Re: [F-Costume] Underwear for under unitards?
To: F-Costume@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 2 May, 2010, 8:48 PM







 












> Harley has never been in a movie, just cartoons and comics, so it's
>  pretty much the "spray on" look that she has.  Some versions are more
> sprayed on than others though.  I'm quite happy to have some degree of
> wrinkle etc in it because - short of body painting the person wearing it,
> the suit is never going to have that overly perfect second skin look of a
> comic book.



Actually, I believe the character was in Batman Beyond:The Return of the Joker.

 

I'm sure you could find plenty of stills from that movie on the web for more
ideas.

 

Laurensa










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Ah. I don't follow the batman movies, so I don't follow the fan stuff
either. I simply saw the poster in a pile of google images at
<http://fandangogroovers.wordpress.com/2009/09/17/the-dark-knight-returns/>
and figured it must have been in one of the movies since it looked like
movie stuff. I enjoyed the tv show, but I'm not into 'dark' materials
and so have no interest at all in the franchise these days. He did a
convincing poster, though.

	 -Judy



Naresha wrote:
> Thanks Judy,
>
> I'm definitely going to look into Dennis' suggestion of dancewear - I hadn't
thought of that, but it's really quite an obvious one to look to! :)  I think
that should work quite well if one of my local dance stores has a liner or at
least any good "seamless" underwear.
>
> Where did you find the Harley pictures can I ask?  All I've found is several
VERY well done fanart posters of actress Kristen Bell in a black and dark red
jumpsuit with a red collar and the Dark Knight Joker style make up.  I've also
seen the same artist do Johnny Depp as a Willy Wonka style Joker and an actress
I don't recognise as Catwoman.
>
>
>

It was an exceptionally well done poster - there is a collection of them. 
Impressive work whoever did them and a very nice interpretation of a possible
costume for her.  Not sure it would be my choice for her, but a very nice blend
of movie style and pre-existing comic elements.

The catwoman poster is a nice one too - good costume interpretation for her,
fits well with the style of the movie - very industrial outfit, somewhat like
the new Batsuit

David Tennant as the Joker: 
http://fanartexhibit.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/batman_poster_rid.jpg?w=467&h=7\
48

Marion Cottilard as Catwoman: 
http://fanartexhibit.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/batman_poster_cat.jpg?w=467&h=7\
48

--- On Sun, 2/5/10, Judy Mitchell <judymitch@...> wrote:

From: Judy Mitchell <judymitch@...>
Subject: Re: [F-Costume] Underwear for under unitards?
To: F-Costume@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 2 May, 2010, 10:54 PM







 









       Ah. I don't follow the batman movies, so I don't follow the fan stuff

either. I simply saw the poster in a pile of google images at

<http://fandangogroo vers.wordpress. com/2009/ 09/17/the- dark-knight- returns/>

and figured it must have been in one of the movies since it looked like

movie stuff. I enjoyed the tv show, but I'm not into 'dark' materials

and so have no interest at all in the franchise these days. He did a

convincing poster, though.



	 -Judy



Naresha wrote:

> Thanks Judy,

>

> I'm definitely going to look into Dennis' suggestion of dancewear - I hadn't
thought of that, but it's really quite an obvious one to look to! :)  I think
that should work quite well if one of my local dance stores has a liner or at
least any good "seamless" underwear.

>

> Where did you find the Harley pictures can I ask?  All I've found is several
VERY well done fanart posters of actress Kristen Bell in a black and dark red
jumpsuit with a red collar and the Dark Knight Joker style make up.  I've also
seen the same artist do Johnny Depp as a Willy Wonka style Joker and an actress
I don't recognise as Catwoman.

>

>

>























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On Sat, 1 May 2010 18:43:23 -0400
Susan Toker <susantoker@...> wrote:

> Dancebelts yes!   It makes a "statement" for men too!

Oh, believe me, I know all about the necessity, being in ballet. =)

-Dennis

Some of these are from previous years.  They are all fun!

Penny Ladnier
Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites
www.costumegallery.com
14 websites of fashion, textiles, & costume history


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Aren't Spanx supposed to be pretty thin and flexible?

--- On Sat, 5/1/10, Naresha <north_shore_fruitcake@...> wrote:


Hi folks,

Going on from the Shapewear discussion, I thought I'd ask a similar question. 
I'm making a Harley Quinn outfit for a friend and I'm debating what she
could/should wear underneath it and what I should maybe look at building into it
to help keep it smooth.

For those not familiar, Harley Quinn is a Batman villaness whose traditional
costume is a black and red harlequin unitard with horned cap and collar.  
Physically, the character is very athletic and flexible - like a gymnast.   My
friend is quite petite and slender but has a curvy shape.  She's a 32C and about
an (aussie) 8-10 in size.  She's not very lumpy, so she doesn't need massive
amounts of sucking in or reshaping or anything like that but I do want the
costume to have nice smooth lines and give her some support BUT also allow her
to maintain full flexibility.  I've got the top half sorted, but I started
wondering about the bottom half - all I could find in the shops was shapewear
that came to the knees or mid thigh and that looked quite thick and
heavyweight.  I'm making the costume out of lycra/spandex so it will move and
bend with the wearer and none of the things I saw today would keep that sort of
flexibility.

I think my friend would probably be able to manage okay with just a nice fitting
thong underneath, but I'd like to make the costume as smooth and supportive as
possible but I don't want to sacrifice too much flexibility and movement.

Any advice, oh wonderful group of experienced costumers???

Resha.



     

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Just to let you know the NY/NJ Costumers Guild has some Lunacon 2010
pictures up.  Among them are some Green Room shots, but not all costumes
were photographed.   The official photographs were taken by Ken Warren.

http://www.sickpupsnot.org/

We still have some unidentified people so if you recognize them, please send
the picture "title" and the names to me so I can correct this.

Tina Connell also has also sent some pictures so hopefully more pictures
"real soon now".

Also, the Metropolitan Museum has posted a database with items that will be
in their upcoming costume exhibit this summer.  Look under our Events for
links.

  June is a particularly good time for costuming in NYC (The Met, Brooklyn
Museum and FIT), in case you were thinking of a road trip.

Enjoy!

Susan (susantoker@...)


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I don't know, I haven't seen Spanx brand here in Australia. :(

--- On Tue, 4/5/10, Elizabeth Phillips <lilibetp@...> wrote:

From: Elizabeth Phillips <lilibetp@...>
Subject: Re: [F-Costume] Underwear for under unitards?
To: F-Costume@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, 4 May, 2010, 10:55 PM







 









       Aren't Spanx supposed to be pretty thin and flexible?



--- On Sat, 5/1/10, Naresha <north_shore_ fruitcake@ yahoo.com. au> wrote:



Hi folks,



Going on from the Shapewear discussion, I thought I'd ask a similar question. 
I'm making a Harley Quinn outfit for a friend and I'm debating what she
could/should wear underneath it and what I should maybe look at building into it
to help keep it smooth.



For those not familiar, Harley Quinn is a Batman villaness whose traditional
costume is a black and red harlequin unitard with horned cap and collar.  
Physically, the character is very athletic and flexible - like a gymnast.   My
friend is quite petite and slender but has a curvy shape.  She's a 32C and
about an (aussie) 8-10 in size.  She's not very lumpy, so she doesn't need
massive amounts of sucking in or reshaping or anything like that but I do want
the costume to have nice smooth lines and give her some support BUT also allow
her to maintain full flexibility.  I've got the top half sorted, but I started
wondering about the bottom half - all I could find in the shops was shapewear
that came to the knees or mid thigh and that looked quite thick and
heavyweight.  I'm making the costume out of lycra/spandex so it will move and
bend with the wearer and none of the things I saw today would keep that sort of
flexibility.



I think my friend would probably be able to manage okay with just a nice fitting
thong underneath, but I'd like to make the costume as smooth and supportive as
possible but I don't want to sacrifice too much flexibility and movement.



Any advice, oh wonderful group of experienced costumers???



Resha.



     



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Please Remember to "Stamp Out Hunger!" with the U.S. Postal Service!!

The NALC (National Association of Letter Carriers) and the U.S. Postal Service
will collect non-perishable food items on SATURDAY, MAY 8, 2010 in their annual
"Stamp Out Hunger!" National Food Drive to benefit food banks in your area.
Check with your local letter carrier to verify if carriers are picking up bags
at customers' homes, or if there are drop-off boxes at your local post office.

Please donate! You don't have to give much--a NON-PERISHABLE box of breakfast
cereal, a few cans of soup or vegetables, a box of rice or potato flakes, cans
of tuna, chicken, corned beef hash, or chili (remember, store brands are okay,
less expensive, and you can buy more food for the same amount of money)!!

On Saturday, May 8, bag the NON-PERISHABLE items in a waterproof shopping bag,
just it case it's raining (or flooding) in your area, and put it in your mailbox
(if you have a humungous roadside delivery box), on your porch, or by your door.
Please remember to leave a note for your carrier to tell him/her that you have a
bag of food for the drive!

PLEASE DONATE!!! Local food banks are being deluged with requests for assistance
because of the ongoing economic downturn. Even if you can't afford to donate
much, every box and can you do give will be greatly appreciated!!

P.S: the NALC/USPS "Stamp Out Hunger!" National Food Drive is always held on the
day before Mothers' Day, but check with your local post office, just in case!

Thank You for Your Help, Best Wishes, Peace and Long Life, Live Long and
Prosper!!!
Serit (DermaWoman)



pps: how did you know that my ever-logical spouse, Semek, is a letter carrier?!
;D

Who from f-costume is going to Costume Con?  I will be there Friday-Sunday. 
Looking forward to a great time!

Penny Ladnier
Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites
www.costumegallery.com
14 websites of fashion, textiles, & costume history

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Original poster here!

I went, wore my "My 1st Costume Con!" t-shirt, and had a BLAST. People were very
friendly and the events were great. I'm already excited for next year, and I
plan to compete in just about everything.

Thanks to everyone for their help here, it made my experience much better to
know what to expect.

 - Amanda



--- On Thu, 4/8/10, Andrew T Trembley <attrembl@...> wrote:

From: Andrew T Trembley <attrembl@...>
Subject: Re: [F-Costume] Costume Con questions
To: F-Costume@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 4:35 PM







 









       On Apr 8, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Amanda_C wrote:

> Is the Monday of CC a "throw-away" day? At most conventions I attend, the last
day is just for packing, goodbyes, and driving.



Monday programming depends on the year. St. Louis and Utah had excellent Monday
programming that was well-attended.



CC draws a lot of out-of-towners who will fly home Tuesday (or maybe even stay
longer). Monday night, once the con is packed up, is often the best social time.
Masquerade entrants have had a chance to spin down from the stress and
adrenaline of competing, and con staff can finally relax.



> Also, do panels and/or workshops cost extra? Do I need to pre-register online
for workshops? I was shocked when I went to my first GenCon and discovered that
everything cost extra (beyond the cost of the entrance badge) money. I wasn't
ready mentally or financially.



There may be some limited-attendance workshops that have a "materials fee" but
that depends on the program. I only saw one limited-attendance workshop with a
supply kit (Shisha Embroidery with Judy Seidl, and that's $5) on this year's web
page.



Other than that? Your membership gets you access to everything at the con. The
competitions, the panels, the dealers' room, the exhibits, the consuite (and
other things I'm sure I'm missing). This isn't a big gate-show tailored to make
big profits off of fans, gamers or industry folks (like Creation or GenCon).
It's a small conference put on by costumers for costumers.



andy





















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Glad to hear you had a good time! CostumeCons are a lot of fun, I wish I
could go more often (I am registered for next year, though!). anything
you liked the most?

      -Judy

Amanda wrote:
> Original poster here!
>
> I went, wore my "My 1st Costume Con!" t-shirt, and had a BLAST. People were
very friendly and the events were great. I'm already excited for next year, and
I plan to compete in just about everything.
>
> Thanks to everyone for their help here, it made my experience much better to
know what to expect.
>
>  - Amanda