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Hello,

Can someone please suggest a way to put permanent blood stains on
fabric? I know how to make fake blood, but I'm concerned its going to
come off on the furniture. I found zombie blood all over my house for
about a week after my Zombie Prom. So perhaps something like acrylic
paint would be better...?

Also, a good way of applying the stains to the fabric would be
appreciated.

Just white cotton interior dec fabric. Here's a reference if interested:
http://www.game-ost.ru/covers/num/657036_1060-2_front.jpg

Thank you so much! This group is always so amazingly helpful!
  ~ Amanda

http://www.myspace.com/firenz

Can someone please suggest a way to put permanent blood stains on
fabric? ... So perhaps something like acrylic
paint would be better...?

You've got it.  Mix paints with fabric medium so that it doesn't just
sit on the surface.

To make it look wetter, add some high gloss medium.  Look for a more
flexible one because glosses have a tendency to be stiffer.  (Maybe only
use the gloss mixture in places that you don't need as much flex.)  You
may also want darker dried blood if your zombie has been working at it
for a while.

As always... test.

  >>Also, a good way of applying the stains to the fabric would be
appreciated.

See above... brown paints and fabric medium are good for mud.  Water
down so you can splatter.  Mud colors vary.  If they've been crashing
though building, plaster streaks.

Ask yourself what the zombie has been doing... and then come up with the
colors and if it would streak or splatter or glob, etc.

-Cat-

I asked a similar thing not so long ago, Amanda!

   I used red fabric paint (and normal acrylic paint, PS never use the cheap
stuff! was scrubbing my nails for a week!) in a left over half bottle of fabric
medium and a LOT of water plus a little blue food dye as everyone here
recommended to make it a little less tomatoey but I was going for the fake blood
look anyway...

   What I ended up doing was mixing my left over red fabric paint with a lot of
water and some fabric medium in a spare take-away food container (one of the
larger round ones) and adding some blue food dye.  Managed to add more food dye
than I needed and got purple blood but added two thirds of a tube of red acrylic
paint from my craft store and that got an acceptable colour.  I ended up with
quite a bit of "blood" but I was doing three mens shirts so that didn't matter
too much.

   As for applying it, I used a couple of different methods.  After lining the
floor and partway up the walls of my shower with garbage bags, I spread the
shirts on the floor one at a time and went for it!  For the bulk of it, I used
the left over bottle from the fabric medium (it was only a small 6omL bottle)
and filled it with the paint mixture, put the lid back on and just squirted it
or used it to make drops.  It gave me nice puddles and droplets of blood and
then I used a left over little spray bottle (one of the ones you get in packs of
empty "travel" sized bottles that you can get a drugstore or $2 store.) to mist
over other parts of it.

   It was a bit tricky 'cause big shirts don't work so easily on the floor of a
small shower, but with a bit of careful push-pull I got there!

   After each shirt, I hung it outside on a wire hanger and they dried pretty
quickly.  I also had to put a new torn open garbage bag on the floor of the
shower after each shirt because it was only VERY thin material and very thin
paint so there was a fair bit of mess...  Although none of my shower or sink was
permanently stained, but the cheap acrylic paint did stain my fingers
INSTANTLY...

   I haven't tested it on furniture, but it did use an OBSCENE amount of fabric
medium plus some fabric paint too and it's actually remained quite flexible, so
I'm hopeful! :)

   Resha

Amanda <cuprysa@...> wrote:
           Hello,

Can someone please suggest a way to put permanent blood stains on
fabric? I know how to make fake blood, but I'm concerned its going to
come off on the furniture. I found zombie blood all over my house for
about a week after my Zombie Prom. So perhaps something like acrylic
paint would be better...?

Also, a good way of applying the stains to the fabric would be
appreciated.

Just white cotton interior dec fabric. Here's a reference if interested:
http://www.game-ost.ru/covers/num/657036_1060-2_front.jpg

Thank you so much! This group is always so amazingly helpful!
~ Amanda

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>> adding some blue food dye. Managed to add more food dye than I
needed and got purple blood

Only a drop or two.   When I make blood punch... I use a regular red
punch and then  if it's a full punch bowl I add 1 to 3 drops of blue
food coloring for the whole thing.

  >>As for applying it, I used a couple of different methods. After
lining the floor and partway up the walls of my shower with garbage bags,

Did you snap any pictures of your insanity???  We're going to need to
put together all our zombee stuff and get it up on the web eventually.

-Cat-

Cat Devereaux <CatDevereaux@...> wrote:          >> adding some
blue food dye. Managed to add more food dye than I
>> needed and got purple blood
>
> Only a drop or two. When I make blood punch... I use a regular red
> punch and then if it's a full punch bowl I add 1 to 3 drops of blue
> food coloring for the whole thing.

Yes...  Unfortunately the bottle didn't have a dropper or anything on it and I
was on the phone at the time.  BAD IDEA!!! :P  But it all worked out in the end
with the addition of the vile red paint!

>>As for applying it, I used a couple of different methods. After
>>lining the floor and partway up the walls of my shower with garbage >>bags,

> Did you snap any pictures of your insanity??? We're going to need to
> put together all our zombee stuff and get it up on the web eventually.
   Sure did, Cat! :D  I'll post them up in my folder on the group once I've sent
this post off!

   Resha



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Have posted some pix of my  massacre of my shirts.  They're APPALLING quality
but that's cause I capped them off a video I made of the whole process.  It took
about five minutes per shirt, not counting the time it took to safeguard my
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Thank you Resha and Cat!

Please explain further though: fabric medium?

I think I get the idea, but is it something I can
purchase at Jo-Ann's or preferably Michaels Crafts?

Thanks again! ^_^
Amanda


--- Cat Devereaux <CatDevereaux@...>
wrote:

> Can someone please suggest a way to put permanent
> blood stains on
> fabric? ... So perhaps something like acrylic
> paint would be better...?
>
> You've got it.  Mix paints with fabric medium so
> that it doesn't just
> sit on the surface.
>
> To make it look wetter, add some high gloss medium.
> Look for a more
> flexible one because glosses have a tendency to be
> stiffer.  (Maybe only
> use the gloss mixture in places that you don't need
> as much flex.)  You
> may also want darker dried blood if your zombie has
> been working at it
> for a while.
>
> As always... test.
>
>  >>Also, a good way of applying the stains to the
> fabric would be
> appreciated.
>
> See above... brown paints and fabric medium are good
> for mud.  Water
> down so you can splatter.  Mud colors vary.  If
> they've been crashing
> though building, plaster streaks.
>
> Ask yourself what the zombie has been doing... and
> then come up with the
> colors and if it would streak or splatter or glob,
> etc.
>
> -Cat-
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>> Please explain further though: fabric medium?
  >>I think I get the idea, but is it something I can
purchase at Jo-Ann's or preferably Michaels Crafts?

You should be able to get it at Michaels.  Go into the paint
department.... with the good paints.  There are various mediums.. some
add matte, some gloss, some thin the paints.  Fabric medium is just
something that mixes in that helps the absorption.  You'll need to thin
it a bit too to get it to behave, as you've heard.  Water is fine.

-Cat-

>> Please explain further though: fabric medium?
>>I think I get the idea, but is it something I can
>> purchase at Jo-Ann's or preferably Michaels Crafts?

A "medium" is the part of the paint that sticks the
color to the material; paint is made of pigment and
medium.

Paints are often named after their medium, hence
acrylic and oil paints, but not watercolors, which
have gum arabic (i think).

So, acrylic medium is just acrylic precursor and water
and shiny or matte bits, with no color. :)

Ann in CT


      
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Another thing about fabric medium: it makes the paint dry flexible.  I
mixed it with acrylic paint to use on my rubber silly Hobbit feet.  My
first paint job cracked and flaked after a few hours of walking in them.
I repainted with fabric medium added to the paint and they've appeared
at many parties since with nary a wrinkle.

Jeannette
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> Please explain further though: fabric medium?
> I think I get the idea, but is it something I can
> purchase at Jo-Ann's or preferably Michaels Crafts?

>

Fabric medium is liquid that you add to ordinary acrylic paint to make it into
fabric paint.  You can get things like crackle medium which makes the paint
crack like it's old, high gloss medium which makes it glossy etc.

   Most companies that make artists' paints make mediums as well.  I got mine for
about $2, $3 a bottle at my local Spotlight (fabric/craft store) and I've seen
it at most craft and fabric stores, so I'm sure you'd be able to get it Jo-Ann's
or Michael Crafts. Chances are if the store stocks paint, they will stock the
mediums as well.

   Resha

Amanda_C <cuprysa@...> wrote:
     Thank you Resha and Cat!

Please explain further though: fabric medium?

I think I get the idea, but is it something I can
purchase at Jo-Ann's or preferably Michaels Crafts?

Thanks again! ^_^
Amanda
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>>Chances are if the store stocks paint, they will stock the mediums as
well.Chances are if the store stocks paint, they will stock the mediums
as well.

A regular art supply store will have it as well.

Though sometimes, you can find a bottle of it sitting near the fabric
paints (which are already acrylic paints w/ fabric medium mixed in.)
However, regular fabric pains are normally far too thick and are almost
always pastel.  Cheaper to mix your own.

-Cat-
Such a great topic considering the DVD players been playing both the
Sweeney Todd movie and the stage musical... but there you have to worry
about laundry every night... and non permanence.

Cat Devereaux <CatDevereaux@...> wrote:    > Though sometimes,
you can find a bottle of it sitting near the fabric
> paints (which are already acrylic paints w/ fabric medium mixed in.)
> However, regular fabric pains are normally far too thick and are
> almost always pastel. Cheaper to mix your own.

   I've never had an issue with colours I must say... The fabric paint I bought
came in every conceivable colour imaginable!  I think you would have had more
trouble finding a pastel than a fluro!   But yes, it was cheaper to mix my own
by a couple of dollars!  I just never trust myself with quantities and mixing
proportions correctly!

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I ended up using Acra Red and a tiny bit of Burnt
Umber acrylic paint, and one drop of blue food dye
(that really made the difference). I didn't use the
fabric medium - it was over $10 for a big bottle of it
and I'm on a budget for this project. Will provide
pics soon.

Thank you for all your help!
  ~ Amanda

--- Naresha <north_shore_fruitcake@...>
wrote:

> Cat Devereaux <CatDevereaux@...>
> wrote:    > Though sometimes, you can find a bottle
> of it sitting near the fabric
> > paints (which are already acrylic paints w/ fabric
> medium mixed in.)
> > However, regular fabric pains are normally far too
> thick and are
> > almost always pastel. Cheaper to mix your own.
>
>   I've never had an issue with colours I must say...
> The fabric paint I bought came in every conceivable
> colour imaginable!  I think you would have had more
> trouble finding a pastel than a fluro!   But yes, it
> was cheaper to mix my own by a couple of dollars!  I
> just never trust myself with quantities and mixing
> proportions correctly!
>
>   resha
>
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Can't wait to see the end result!

   I got lucky and found myself a little bottle of medium - I don't use it much
(says she who's just used it on the last three projects)  as a general thing so
a $2 bottle was an acceptable outlay, but I know big bottles come in annoyingly
expensive.  Hope the paint stays on, never painted anything with just normal
acrylic!

Resha

If you dilute the paint with enough water, and wet the cloth, it will
penetrate without the fabric medium. Not sure if it will look like
blood stains though. I did my daughter's Princess Leia Endor Commando
poncho that way, years before I found out about Fabric medium. Then
again, I was looking for the watercolor effect.

--- In F-Costume@yahoogroups.com, Naresha <north_shore_fruitcake@...>
wrote:
>
> Can't wait to see the end result!
>
>   I got lucky and found myself a little bottle of medium - I don't
use it much (says she who's just used it on the last three projects)
as a general thing so a $2 bottle was an acceptable outlay, but I know
big bottles come in annoyingly expensive.  Hope the paint stays on,
never painted anything with just normal acrylic!
>
> Resha
>

I have several interested parties.  I'll re post if it doesn't sell to
one of them.

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jeanine@...

I'm looking for additional web pics for Mrs. Quickly (the pink/green
outfit) from Nanny McPhee. I've checked Rotten Tomatoes, the official
movie site, and IMDb. Anyone happen to recall any further stashes of
pics?

Jonatha

jehanni2 wrote:
> I'm looking for additional web pics for Mrs. Quickly (the pink/green
> outfit) from Nanny McPhee. I've checked Rotten Tomatoes, the official
> movie site, and IMDb. Anyone happen to recall any further stashes of
> pics?

	 have you tried movieweb.com?
<http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/53/2853/gal2316/> looks like it has
a lot of stills.

	 -Judy

>>I'm looking for additional web pics for Mrs. Quickly (the pink/green
outfit) from Nanny McPhee. I've checked Rotten Tomatoes, the official
movie site, and IMDb. Anyone happen to recall any further stashes of
pics?

There might be something on one of the other sites here.  I didn't
check: http://alleycatscratch.com/movie/Costume_Links.htm#Pictures

This may be the time when you just pick up the DVD.  It's not too expensive.

-Cat-

Hey folks,
   This isn't directly costume related, but I'm sure it's annoyed many a person
on here before!

   I just dyed a pair of brown cotton pants black and, as I was expecting, the
pants went nice and black and the stitching stayed the same nasty shade of
brown!

   Now, normally I'm not fussed about the two tone look, but on these pants, it
just won't work.  The design of these pants has a sort of "waistband" of
decorative flaps - one pointing up, one pointing down, each secured by a button.
What can anyone suggest to turn the stitching black without restitching it - if
it was just hems, I'd do it, but all the flaps is just too much - I've already
got to change 25 buttons! :-P  I was thinking a bit of paint, but I don't want
to stiffen them up too much and  given they're quite fitted and the flaps are
actually part of the pants, any stiffness will of course affect the line and the
comfort!

   Any suggestions on how to deal with this?

   Thanks,
   Resha


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you could try a permament fine point black marker like a fine point sharpie


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   To: F Costume
   Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 1:34 PM
   Subject: [F-Costume] dying stitching?


   Hey folks,
   This isn't directly costume related, but I'm sure it's annoyed many a person
on here before!

   I just dyed a pair of brown cotton pants black and, as I was expecting, the
pants went nice and black and the stitching stayed the same nasty shade of
brown!

   Now, normally I'm not fussed about the two tone look, but on these pants, it
just won't work. The design of these pants has a sort of "waistband" of
decorative flaps - one pointing up, one pointing down, each secured by a button.
What can anyone suggest to turn the stitching black without restitching it - if
it was just hems, I'd do it, but all the flaps is just too much - I've already
got to change 25 buttons! :-P I was thinking a bit of paint, but I don't want to
stiffen them up too much and given they're quite fitted and the flaps are
actually part of the pants, any stiffness will of course affect the line and the
comfort!

   Any suggestions on how to deal with this?

   Thanks,
   Resha

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I once bought a handbag that was black leather with yellow stitching.
  I used black Sharpie on the yellow stitching and it worked well.
After a couple years it wore off and back to yellowish in some
places.

      It won't weight the fabric like paint would, but the sharpie hitting
the fabric itself might look different.

      -Carol


>   I just dyed a pair of brown cotton pants black and, as I was expecting,
> the pants went nice and black and the stitching stayed the same nasty
> shade of brown!

So next time, Resha, are you going to plan ahead and use thread the
color you plan to dye it to? that's the problem with poly-cotton thread:
it doesn't take the dye the same way. Obviously you can't do it now, but
next time.....

	 -Judy (use the sharpie!)

Naresha wrote:
> Hey folks,
>   This isn't directly costume related, but I'm sure it's annoyed many a person
on here before!
>
>   I just dyed a pair of brown cotton pants black and, as I was expecting, the
pants went nice and black and the stitching stayed the same nasty shade of
brown!
>
>   Now, normally I'm not fussed about the two tone look, but on these pants, it
just won't work.  The design of these pants has a sort of "waistband" of
decorative flaps - one pointing up, one pointing down, each secured by a button.
What can anyone suggest to turn the stitching black without restitching it - if
it was just hems, I'd do it, but all the flaps is just too much - I've already
got to change 25 buttons! :-P  I was thinking a bit of paint, but I don't want
to stiffen them up too much and  given they're quite fitted and the flaps are
actually part of the pants, any stiffness will of course affect the line and the
comfort!
>
>   Any suggestions on how to deal with this?

The pants were actually a "gift" from a family friend who they didn't fit and I
don't wear brown normally, but I liked them too much to toss them out!  I didn't
make them myself or else I definately would have used black thread - I've got at
least half a dozen spools of the stuff floating around the house!

   *locates sharpie from under papers*

Judy Mitchell <judymitch@...> wrote:
           So next time, Resha, are you going to plan ahead and use thread the
color you plan to dye it to? that's the problem with poly-cotton thread:
it doesn't take the dye the same way. Obviously you can't do it now, but
next time.....

-Judy (use the sharpie!)

Naresha wrote:
> Hey folks,
> This isn't directly costume related, but I'm sure it's annoyed many a person
on here before!
>
> I just dyed a pair of brown cotton pants black and, as I was expecting, the
pants went nice and black and the stitching stayed the same nasty shade of
brown!
>
> Now, normally I'm not fussed about the two tone look, but on these pants, it
just won't work. The design of these pants has a sort of "waistband" of
decorative flaps - one pointing up, one pointing down, each secured by a button.
What can anyone suggest to turn the stitching black without restitching it - if
it was just hems, I'd do it, but all the flaps is just too much - I've already
got to change 25 buttons! :-P I was thinking a bit of paint, but I don't want to
stiffen them up too much and given they're quite fitted and the flaps are
actually part of the pants, any stiffness will of course affect the line and the
comfort!
>
> Any suggestions on how to deal with this?





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Naresha wrote:
> The pants were actually a "gift" from a family friend who they didn't fit and
I don't wear brown normally, but I liked them too much to toss them out!  I
didn't make them myself or else I definately would have used black thread - I've
got at least half a dozen spools of the stuff floating around the house!
>
>   *locates sharpie from under papers*


	 ah well. They sound like nice pants, though.

	 -Judy

I received reservations for the following folks for the CC26 pre-con
Chocolate & Spirits tour, but haven't received a confirmation message
from them:

Deborah Cardillo, Martin Harriman
Renata O'Connor-Rose, Leah O'Connor, Patrick O'Connor (+2, yes we have
room for your +2)

I still have some seats on the bus left. Tickets are $35/person,
leaving from the San Jose Doubletree at 9:45 AM on Thursday.
Convention members, of course, have priority to buy tickets, but if
I've got space I'll take other reservations.

please send any reservation requests to fbtours@.... If you've
reserved and haven't received a note from me, it means I never got
your reservation; if that's the case (I beg the moderators
forgiveness) answer on-list to ensure that your mail isn't being eaten
by SPAM filters somewhere.


andy


Here's the original details:
It's about an hour's trip to Berkeley, but it's worth it. Scharffen
Berger Chocolate Maker is a first-tier chocolate manufacturer,
starting with the raw beans and controlling every step in the process
of making the best small-batch chocolate in the country. After the
tour, we'll take lunch at Café Cacao, right in the Scharffen Berger
factory.

  From lunch we'll continue the short jaunt from Scharffen Berger to
St. George Spirits, a cradle of craft-distilling in the US. Located at
the northwest end of Naval Air Station Alameda (a site familiar to the
fans of Mythbusters) in an old hangar, St. George Spirits is classic
Schwartzwald, Germany transplanted to California. Under the St. George
name, Jörg, Lance and their crew distill eaux de vie, liqueuers and a
superb single-malt whisky. Their recent Absinthe release rocked the
spirits world. They're also well-known for distilling the "Hangar One"
series of flavored vodkas. In a partnership with John Scharffenberger,
they produce "Qi" tea liqueurs and "Essence of Cacao" perfume. Taste
carefully.

I recently washed the Silk Dupioni I'm gonna use for my Lucy Red
Dress Bodice (from CoN: Prince Caspian) and had just iron it when I
noticed that the fabric is now soft. o__O

Is it suppose to be this way?

FYI, I hand-wash it with regular washing machine detergent in not too
hot water (temperature that is comfortable to the skin) and rinse in
warm water (cause it's afternoon). Then hang dry with the late
afternoon sun.

As for ironing, I initially used the prescribed temperature
recommanded for Silk (Level 2) on my Dry Iron but later changed to
one meant between Rayon and Cotton (Level 3-5) with water mist before
ironing.


And another question about Silk Dupioni:
How do you totally get rid of the "Wrinkled" look of it after
washing? Should I be using Steam Iron instead?

Thanks ^__^

Fatimah

Greetings. I am new here. Did a quick archive search and did not see
any refernces to this.

My daughter wants to go to Marcon as Miroku from the Inuyasha anime
series. I can handle most of the garb but can't seem to find info on
how to put on a buddist monk's robe. I discovered it is called a kesa.
It seems to be a simple retangle of cloth but I am not positive it
doesn't have additional ties sewn on to it.

The main problem is I can not find any info on how it is worn and tied
together. Does anyone know?

Thanks
Bernadette