Hello, I have a couple of items related to the recent discussions of web ER and grading schemes. First, I've been working with a small group in western Japan...
Hi Sorry for the 'local' nature of this broadcast. It's that time of year again. As you all know Jalt Shizuoka will be held from the 8th to 10th of OCTOBER...
Hi all I've been lurking for a while but reading with interest. I need some help now. As some of you may remember I've detailed my history with ER in the past...
... Hi Regarding Rob's proposal for a standardised grading scheme for web based reading materials, I'd be happy to submit my own site to be analysed. At...
Dear Wendy Well done collecting so much data about your own programme. To keep P6 interested you have to find more titles. The upper levels of graded readers...
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David, Appreciate your well-thot out advice on "Bridging the Gaps"bw L1 & L2, & I think bw ER & IR needs and complementary emphases. To bridge the gap between...
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Hi all David, wonderful to hear that you're still there because I know your history with HK and their reading schemes is invaluable to me! You mention level...
Wendy Library reading is individuals reading different individual titles chosen from a library and class reading is the whole class reading the same title with...
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Why don't we just try Stern's 'axes of orientation'? ER if it brings about language acquisition is: --extensive not intensive (I know this is partly circular, ...
Good morning all from a beautifully sunny Day 2 of Year of the Rooster (may it continue in this way and all will be well ...) I've copied part of a message...
Hi again I'm not sure if this is PC but if anyone is interested in joining the YLsig (young learners special interest group) for a discussion fielded by Brian...
Hi again I've just re-read a previous email and would like to make clear that I agree with Stephen K that phonics alone is NOT (I'd got a typo of 'now') the...
Hi I read both posts, and understand that you are not taking an extremist position on phonics, but I would like to reply ... 6) to mixed ... agegroup as they ...
I whole heartedly agree with Wendy. Whole word/whole language has its foundations in the sight-word approach that Reverend Thomas Gaulledet used to teach deaf...
WHOLE WORD and WHOLE LANGUAGE are not the same thing. Not at all. Whole language says we acquire language by understanding messages. Whole word = memorizing...
Believe this distinction is basically correct. Whole word = memorizing sight words grew out of what was called the "Linguistic Sight Word Approach." It's...
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Hi again Apologies in advance for the diatribe ... I'm still struggling to find a way around this complicated issue. In fact the more I know, the less I feel I...
... at all. Whole language ... word = memorizing sight ... Yes, I absolutely agree. Let me just clarify in order to establish my own position on this for the...
... called the ... such a ... became disabled ... associations. Such sound-symbol associations being 'I' or 'eye' or 'Me' rhyming with 'sea' or 'see' or the...
... word approach ... students. It is a pictograph ... to hear. Obviously not. It is a 'logographic' approach to word-level decoding. Some 'pictographic'...
A bit more on whole word and whole language. The whole word approach has been compared to the phonics approach. This was done by J. Chall back in the 1960's....
... struggling to find a way around this complicated issue. In fact the more I know, the less I feel I understand how to solve the dilemma. The layers are...
Hi all Charles, many thanks for responding so quickly and in so much detail. Yup, you're right, it's all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and the quicker I...
... From: stephen krashen [mailto:krashen@...] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 5:51 PM To: ExtensiveReading@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ExtensiveReading]...
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... so need a much more systematic approach than would L1 learners. Tho many would argue that both need a clear & systematic approach that is obviously more...
Here is what I meant to write, sorry: The issue is what is "proper phonics instruction." Is it extensive, systematic phonics, which attempts to teach ALL the...
Long-winded text dumps of pre-existing papers tend to kill off conversations on more spontaneous lists, such as this one. However, invitations to visit papers...
Hi all It's fascinating how every time this topic comes up, there is a flurry of activity from members and not without good reason. Charles, I find whatyou say...
Are you talking about deduction or induction, JPL? I should think acquisition of a phonics rule (to the extent that such rules are a real phenomenon of actual...
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