As some of you may know, certain anti-Christian elements in the
Eritrean government has taken it upon themselves to attack the
Eritrean Orthodox Church, and imprison and mistreat its beloved
patriarch, H.H. Abune Antonious.  The mistreatment of the aged and
venerable father, and other faithful Orthodox Christians, has been
such that even Amnesty International has become involved and
concerned for their rights.  Please help to save them from torture
and barbaric mistreatment at the hands of the excommunicated Mr.
Yoftahe Demetros (former government-appointed "General Secretary of
the Holy Synod") and other government forces.

I urge all in this group to join me in taking action by writing to
the following:

Mr. Yoftahe Demetros
General Secretary of the Holy Synod
P.O. BOX 728
Asmara ERITREA

Coptic Orthodox Patriarchate
H.H. Pope Shenouda III
Rameses St. Abbassia CairoEGYPT Fax: 202-682-2215


Amnesty International has made it very easy by preparing text for
those who do not have time to compose their own letter, along with
the following synopsis of the situation...

Express Concern for the well-being of Abune Antonios, Patriarch of
the Orthodox Church, Held Under House Arrest in Eritrea.Amnesty
International is deeply concerned about Abune Antonios, age 79, who
has remained under house arrest in Asmara since January 2006.

Abune Antonios was stripped of his ecclesiastical authority and
forbidden to participate in the Church's administrative affairs by
the government of Eritrea in August 2005. He is reported to have
appeared in person at the office of President Issayas Afwerki in
late 2004 to protest the arrest and imprisonment of three Orthodox
priests, Reverend Dr.Futsum Gebrenegus, Reverend Dr. Tekleab
Mengisteab, and Reverend Gebremedhin Gebreghiorghis. These priests
had been leaders of the Mekane Hiwet Medhane Alem Church, an
internal Orthodox movement that drew thousands of younger followers
to weekly Sunday school classes and Bible study. In July 2005,
Yitbarek Berhe, a deacon of the Orthodox Church, deputy
administrator of the church synod (council) and adviser to the
Patriarch, was reportedly arrested after being forced to resign from
his post.

In January 2006, authorities reportedly placed Abune Antonios under
formal house arrest. He was accused of refusing to cooperate with
the government in closing down the Medhane Alem Church and
protesting the arrest of the above-named individuals. Abune Antonios
argued that his dismissal was in direct violation of long-
established Church canons, under which a Patriarch's election is a
lifetime appointment that cannot be revoked. He was subsequently
stripped of his Patriarchal vestments and holy artifacts in January
2007.

Abune Antonios has reportedly been held incommunicado since January
20, 2007. He suffers from diabetes and is reportedly not receiving
medical attention. In addition to revoking his salary, the
authorities have also forbidden Abune Antonios from having any
contact with Orthodox followers and from attending or leading
worship services. He has not been permitted to receive communion for
the past year. The interim Church leadership, appointed by the
government under Mr. Yoftahe Dimetros, has also reportedly
excommunicated two prominent Church scholars, Andeberhan
Gebremariam, Teweldemedhin Mengistu; two priests, Fr. Debretsion
Araya and Fr.Yonas Debretsion; and another 60 parishioners who
supported Abune Antonios. Excommunication is an extremely serious
matter that precludes attendance at worship services, handling
Bibles or other holy artifacts, taking communion, baptizing one's
children, attending funerals, and being buried in consecrated
ground.

Background - -

Since 2002, the government of Eritrea has severely curtailed
religious expression. It officially recognized Orthodox, Catholic
and Lutheran Christian churches and Islamic institutions, but has
recently begun interfering in these as well. Members of some 35
minority Christian evangelical churches continue to face especially
fierce persecution, even though freedom of religion is guaranteed in
the Eritrean Constitution.

Approximately 2,000 members of minority churches, including about 20
pastors, and dozens of Orthodox Christians and Muslims, are
currently detained. Detainees are held incommunicado in harsh
conditions without charge or trial. They are imprisoned in police
stations at first, then in army camps and security prisons in
different parts of the country, including the main military training
centre at Sawa. Some are held in metal shipping containers and
underground prisons. Several detainees have become seriously ill and
are rarely provided with adequate medical treatment. They are
repeatedly tortured by being beaten and being tied up in painful
positions.

For more information on religious persecution in Eritrea

http://www.amnestyusa.org/document.php?lang=e&id=ENGAFR640132005

Send letters to:

Mr. Yoftahe Dimetros
General Secretary of the Holy Synod
and Pope Shenouda III, Coptic Orthodox Patriarch.

Mr. Yoftahe Demetros
General Secretary of the Holy Synod
P.O. BOX 728Asmara ERITREA
Coptic Orthodox Patriarchate
H.H. Pope Shenouda IIIRameses St. Abbassia Cairo
EGYPT
Fax: 202-682-2215

In your letters: •Express concern for Abune Antonios' well-being
under conditions of incommunicado house arrest; •Demand that Abune
Antonios be given access to adequate medical care, family members,
and parishioners; •Ask that Abune Antonios and other Orthodox
Christians be allowed to practice their faith without fear of
persecution and interference by government authorities and
government-appointed church leaders.We have provided a sample letter
below, but please be encouraged to add your own thoughts:

Sample Letter:Mr. Yoftahe Demetros
General Secretary of the Holy Synod
P.O. BOX 728A
smara ERITREA

Dear Mr. Demetros:

I am deeply concerned about the fate of the Patriarch of the
Eritrean Orthodox Church, 79-year-old Abune Antonios who has
remained under incommunicado house arrest in Asmara since January
2006. He suffers from diabetes and reportedly is not receiving
necessary medical attention. In August 2005, the Eritrean Government
stripped Abune Antonios of his ecclesiastical authority and forbade
him to participate in the Church's administrative affairs. In
January 2006, authorities reportedly placed Abune Antonios under
formal house arrest for protesting the arrest of three Orthodox
priests of the Medhane Alem Church, and for refusing to cooperate
with the government in closing down that Church. Abune Antonios
argued that his dismissal was in direct violation of long-
established Church canons, under which a Patriarch's election is a
lifetime appointment that cannot be revoked. He was subsequently
stripped of his Patriarchal vestments and holy artifacts in January
2007.

In addition to revoking his salary, the authorities have also
forbidden Abune Antonios from having any contact with Orthodox
followers and from attending or leading worship services and taking
communion. I call on you to ensure that Abune Antonios and other
Orthodox Christians be allowed to practice their faith without fear
of persecution and interference by government authorities and
government-appointed Church leaders. I also respectfully request
that Abune Antonios be given access to adequate medical care, and be
allowed to communicate with his family members, and parishioners
while he is under house arrest.
Sincerely,copy to:

Coptic Orthodox Patriarchate
H.H. Pope Shenouda III
Rameses St. Abbassia Cairo
EGYPT
fax: 202-682-2215

HailePetros (Ethiopian Orthodox) and AntoniousNikolas (Coptic
Orthodox) are starting a new yahoo group. The purpose of this group is
to promote unity among the ancient Orthodox Churches of the See of St.
Mark particularly as it concerns their congregations in the United
States. If it is God's will, may this unity lead to cooperation in the
field of evangelism, and the spreading of the Orthodox Faith among
those Africans dispersed throughout the West.

Please feel free to join:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/africanorthodoxchurches/

In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit--one God, Amen...

   Dear Group Members and Brother Tsehay Demeke,

   How are you?  I hope that everyone is well and is continuing to enjoy the
festivities of the Resurrection of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

   This response is to Brother Tsehay Demeke and those who may share his opinion.
My brother, if you read all of the posts linked to this one, you would not have
to make any assumption(s).  I was very proud and still am proud to say that I am
of Jamaican descent and culture--my beloved parents were both born and raised in
Jamaica, WI.

   I was baptized and ordained in the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church.  I was
baptized and ordained by the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church that is loyal to
her Holy Synod, not by the deviants.

   Now, if you don't know Jamaica or Jamaicans, it is very hard to comment on her
(Jamaica's situation).  I have travelled to Jamaica numerous times throughout my
life and even more so, I used to be Rastafarian.  I know the doctrine of most of
the sects of Rastafarianism.

   Once again, most Jamaicans associate the Ethiopian Orthodox Church with
Rastafarians.  Why?!  Because many Rastafarians go to; attend; are baptized and
associate themselves with the EOTC.  On the other hand, the doctrine of
Rastafarianism itself stems from the belief that Haile Selassie the First was
the Lion of the Tribe of Judah mentioned in the Book of Revelations (Chapter
5:5).  Therefore, Rastafarians associate themselves with the sovereignty,
history and the late King of Ethiopia.  They want to identify with Ethiopia.

   The average-to-most Jamaicans are uneducated about Ethiopia and Haile
Selassie.  The reason why I stated that they despise hearing the Emperor's name
is because of the view of him that was/is presented by the Rastafarians and even
politically--many who knew about the Emperor and his regime, openly criticized
him for some reason or another.  The Honorable Marcus Garvey was well known for
criticizing Haile Selassie as were others.  If you take a poll or desire to
record the statistics, ask any Jamaican and/or Rastafarian their respective
opinion.

   Concerning other statements that you made in this e-mail:

   I hate (I, Petros Markos) Haile Selassie.  I do not.  I may know more about
Haile Selassie than yourself, because of my love for him.

   'Full of balogney'...It's actually 'baloney' or 'bologna'.  Anyway, you stated
after that that, 'There are many religions that select verses from the Holy
Bible.  What is your point?'

   In the paragraph above that, I stated that, 'This cult, as in other cults are
neo-religions using selected verses from the Holy Bible for their source of
reference.'

   I don't understand your point for saying, "Full of balogney...what is your
point?"

   I am very proud to say that I attend St. Mark's Coptic Orthodox Church in
Cedar Grove, NJ and Holy Trinity Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church in Bronx,
NY.  Saidna Bishop David (Ava Daoud) is in Cedar Grove and His Eminence
(Abatachin) Abune Abraham is in the Bronx, if you'd like, drop-them-a-line.

   Whatever the heretics, non-believers and pagans...even those who were born
Orthodox, say, doesn't concern me.  I hope that all of us can know and learn, by
the assistance of divine wisdom how to refute them when need be.

   My brother, I think that you skimmed through what was written in the previous
posts.  I did not say that 'all' Ethiopians mock Rastafarians.  Whether the
group be Protestant, Muslim, Jehovah's Witnesses, Orthodox, Catholic, Hindu or
so forth, they may be mocked everywhere. Just because I put forth facts and
opinions, does not mean that I am mocking the Rastafarians.  Mock means to
ridicule, to deride or to mimic and I haven't done that.

   The series of posts 'View of Bob Marley' was initiated by a brother concerned
with the view of Bob Marley in the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church, hence, we
are discussing Ethiopians (of the EOTC, who are the majority of the Ethiopian
Orthodox Tewahido Church) and Bob Marley, who was a very proud Jamaican and
former Rastafarian--who converted to Orthodoxy.

   My brother, now I have to apologize deeply, because this dialogue is going
backward and is ill-influenced.

   Every member of our Orthodox Church should be educated theologically in some
way.  Man is an embodied spirit, therefore his existance relies on a
relationship with his/her Creator--God Who is Spirit.  I often hear and see
Orthodox Christians (not to mention other Christians) insulting other religions.
(1) We need not insult other religions, but defend ours in a civil and spiritual
manner (2) Learn about the others before commenting or gesturing (3) Don't
assume concerning others

   I, of course am a sinner, but if I lacked respect for the view or opinion of
others, I would not continue to post.  Everyone here is entitled to their
opinion and choice of religion.

   Most of all, EVERY MEMBER OF THE ORIENTAL ORTHODOX CHURCHES--ESPECIALLY THOSE
OF THE ETHIOPIAN AND COPTIC, should know that the Coptic Orthodox Church and the
Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church are of ONE FAITH.  We are linked to ONE LORD
and His Apostle Saint Mark.

   I also have no idea what your last statement means: 'Crazy splinters...' 
Anyone who is Ethiopian, Eritrean or a member of our Church knows the conflict
and tension that has been created between the two countries.  Obviously that is
political, but it has flowed-over into the Church...even the babies are aware of
this.  My point was simple, be Orthodox in the Faith of our Lord Christ.

   Thank you for your reply and I hope that I clarified all misunderstandings.

   Sincerely in Christ our Lord,

   Dn. welde Petros (hailepetros)



   Tsehay Demeke <tsehaydemeke@...> wrote:
           Please see my response inserted below (I used different color
for clarity).

----- Original Message ----
From: petros markos <hailepetros@...>
To: EthiopianChristianity@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 9:55:58 AM
Subject: Re: [EthiopianChristianity] View of Bob Marley

Selam Yossief and All Members:

How are you? Dear Yossief--my Brother...

If you scroll down (in this post), you may see that I stated a fact about
Jamaica: 99% of the population of Jamaica, if not more 99.9%, do not even like
to hear Haile Selassie's name.

This is a bold lie emanating from a person who hates Haile Selassie. You do not
have a statistics based on facts, survey or any finding. The people of Jamaica
have
no reason to hate Haile Selassie. What did Haile Selassie do against the people
of
Jamaica ? Petros Markos, where are you from any way ?

Not because he was Ethiopian, not because they are informed of his history or
his reign as emperor, but because the (most of the) Rastafarian movement (which
is not limited to Jamaica or Her people) has deified the late Emperor. This
cult, as in other cults are neo-religions using selected verses from the Holy
Bible as their source of reference.

Full of balogney ! There are many religions on earth who select verses from the
Holy Bible. What is your point ?

Jehovah's Witnesses, for example have done the same. Could you imagine (you may,
because the enemy of truth--sATAN) that a group who considers themselves to be
Christian, refers to the Archangel Michael and the [Lord] Jesus Christ as the
same person?! Their doctrine states that our Lord was created by God the Father,
to create a type of sub-world of we he rules, but He (the Lord Christ) is not
the ultimate ruler of All, along with the Father and the Holy Spirit. This is
Gnosticism mixed with Arianism and another heresy of Macedonias (against the
Holy Spirit). So, you may see how these cults originate using one or more verses
out of context, lack of knowledge of Biblical history and so fort.

If you tell me the church you go to, I will quote to you what others say about
your church. To each his own.

Rastafarians are very much mocked in Ethiopia, although the Jamaican society
nowadays, has accepted them much more than in past times. There were/are
missions of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church in the Western Hemisphere (I
don't know about Europe, but I am sure there are missions...) that are trying to
focus on the Rastafarian community in order to educate them about the Ethiopian
Orthodox Tewahido Faith, Ethiopian culture&history and even the life of Haile
Selassie.

Ras Tafarians may be miocked by the likes of you, not by all Ethiopians.

I MUST SAY: THE FOCUS OF EDUCATING THOSE IN THE WESTERN REGIONS (by the EOTC) is
not limited to RASTAFARIANS or those who are born citizens of the West, but also
those descended directly from Ethiopia, who were born into the Orthodox Tewahido
Faith, but naturally lack the knowledge of our Holy Church and Order. Of course,
as many may know, our Church is ancient, extensively dogmatic, rooted deeply in
Her culture and Apostolic in Her succession. Therefore, it takes a great deal of
time, effort and willingness to educate and learn about Her.

Now I see yopu are attempting to associate yourself to Ethiopian Tewahido
Church. Apparently you lack the courtesy to respect others point of view.

Before the members fall asleep while reading, I want to say or suggest that our
members [including our beloved hierarchy (of the EOTC)] should make an effort (a
simple effort) to also educate other Churches about our Holy Ethiopian Orthodox
Tewahido Church. I also serve (a minor role) in the Coptic Orthodox Church (in
my area) and I have found that we are very distanced.

If you are serving the Coptic Orthodox Church then you are not a member of
Ethiopian
Tewahido Church. I take it you are Egyptian Copt.

The relationship between our Churches are unrivaled by no other. It was a
Mother-Daughter, Father-Son relationship and this bond became broken in many
ways. Of course, we don't deny our connection with the See of St. Mark, but the
relationship has severed in many ways. I think if we are educated (by
researching ourselves or taught) by the proper sources, we can bridge this gap,
because we have a lot to learn from one another.
The only integral AfricanOrthodoxChurches are Coptic (Egypt), Eritrean Tewahido
and Ethiopian Tewahido. I am sure that this would also break and destroy a
majority of political problems that plague Ethiopians and Eritreans. It is a
dreadful disease to see Tewahido brothers and sisters fighting, because of
borders!

My friend there is only one Tewahido Church and that is Ethiopian Tewahido
Church.
Every time you see political division, you do not keep spliting Ethiopian
Tewahido into
its political rival turf. Keep all those crazy splinters in your prayer.

Learn and live our FAITH!

'A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved
you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my
disciples, if ye have love one to another.' Gospel of St. John 13: 34,35

Glory be to God forever and ever (Amen).

Your brother,

hailepetros


Yossief <woldeyossief@...> wrote:
Selam everyone

I read this message and just wanted to post my opinion.
I respect and honor how Jamaicans honor and respect Africa
our motherland. Most African people outside of Africa try
change their culture and belief to fit the western world's.

However what I don't understand is this. The Emperor HaileSellase
was an Orthodox Tewahdo believer. He never once claimed
to be the messiah or the way or the light. And he never
intended to create a faith. So what confuses me is, instead
of jamaicans converting to the faith of Hailesellase, they
worship him and started a new faith. Christ who was alive 2000 years
agot said that when he returns, it will be the end of days
so if hailesellase was the incarnate Christ why isn't the world
ended? I think it's very inconsistant. But I'm no expert or anything.

Have a blessed day.
--- In EthiopianChristianity@yahoogroups.com, Isaiah <isaiah36@...> wrote:
>
> RAS TAFARI LIVES AND REIGNS!!!
>
> My brothers, I am a Rastafarian, and I greet you in
> the name of the One true and living I Am, who loves to
> dwell in Ethiopia, revealed to I and I in the light of
> Iesos Kristos, and in the light of HIM Haile Selassie
> First.
>
> I and I Rastafari do not accept that HIM died in 1975,
> and we do not accept the body that has been buried in
> His name has been verified to be Him --- everyone here
> knows HIM is a Man of small physique. Yes, I and I
> view HIM is the christ returned, and thoroughness of
> the Biblical prophecies which I and I have shown to
> support this faith has been explained to the Abuna in
> 1961 by Rastafarian mission from Jamaica, hosted by
> HIM. The response of the Abuna was that while this is
> not Tewahedo doctrine it is indeed possible to
> interpret the Bible in this way. One would have to be
> ignorant of Ethiopian history to not realize that
> bitter doctrinal conflicts in the past have been
> rooted in very real issues, whereas it has been the
> understandable desire of the modern Emperors to have a
> unified doctrine for the empire. For this cause, I
> and I Rastafari have no agenda of religious
> conversion, and will upkeep reverence for all that is
> revered by HIM.
>
> I am not of Tewahedo church, yet I just attended
> Timkat festival in LA with great reverence. I felt at
> home and comfortable within the cultural atmosphere of
> tradition, and spiritually very much elevated by the
> great old hymns. I also witnessed a demon being cast
> out, as a poor woman outside began shaking and
> shouting! The great reverence Rastafarians have for
> all things ancient Ethiopian is not limited to
> Tewahedo, rather it envelops the spiritual and
> cultural values of our ancestors' faith-based life.
> Ethiopians have been a faithful people long before
> great King David (an Ethiopian) brought divine culture
> to Jerusalem or, the Saviour Iesos the Nazarene rose
> up from his bloodline. It is my humble opinion that
> tolerance and justice are pillars of that tradition of
> faith. Indeed the word habesha began to be used
> because Ethiopians refused racial categorixation,
> choosing instead to be identified by their values of
> sovereignty and freedom. In India, where I was born
> and raised, habshi always refers to black Ethiopians,
> as in the great King Malik Ambar - never to refer to
> any asiatic or arabic peoples.
>
> I believe Ethiopian christians and muslims should
> continue to set an example to the world of mutual
> respect and tolerance, which is the hallmark of
> Ethiopian life. Rather than permit the enemies of
> Ethiopia and their agents to drown the country in a
> bloodbath of foreign invention. The simple fact is
> that both christian and islamic imperialisms have not
> been good friends to Africa. Both religions are
> intimately associated with slavery and colonialism.
> That Ethiopia has been largely spared this fate is a
> blessing from the Almighty, because of the
> righteousness of our ancestors, and because of the
> barefoot soldiers of Ethiopia with hearts of lions.
>
> My brothers, please permit me to draw your attention
> to chapter 12 of Revelation- I believe we can find
> guidance and courage from this prophecy, even though
> it speaks of the persecution which will come upon
> Ethiopia because we keep the true testimonies of Iesos
> Kristos.
>
> Praying for many blessings of peace and love, for
> Lidet and Timkat of 2007,
>
> Isaiah
>
>
> --- baalshemtau <baalshemtau@...> wrote:
>
> > Thank You Right Reverend Petros Markos, I agree with
> > your wise words
> > and understanding of the Race touched by the
> > Spiritual Sun, Jesus
> > Christ, Who said that He is the Light of the World.
> > We hope that the
> > Work of the Ethiopian Church continues to guide the
> > African Desporia
> > to the Light of the World.
> >
> > We of the Jerusalem Sabbatarian Gnostic Church wish
> > to ask how are
> > the Ethiopian Nation faring now that the Jihadist
> > war is now being
> > waged against the Christian Ethiopian Nation.
> >
> > In Christian Solidarity
> > Baalshemtau
> > ------------------------------------------
> >
> > --- In EthiopianChristianity@yahoogroups.com, petros
> > markos
> > <hailepetros@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear James and Members of the Group,
> > >
> > > How are you? I hope that you are well. I am of
> > Jamaican
> > heritage and descent. I am most of all, Ethiopian
> > Orthodox Tewahido
> > in my faith.
> > >
> > > The late Bob Marley was baptized on his death
> > bed, Berhane
> > Selassie by an Ethiopian Orthodox Bishop. He is not
> > a saint of the
> > Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church...not even so
> > many of our late and
> > great archbishops, bishops, priests, deacons or
> > kings within the last
> > 400-500 years were dubbed saints.
> > >
> > > I have to correct the brother who said that
> > 'Jamaicans believe
> > that Haile Selassie is the Lord'. This is not true
> > of 99% of
> > Jamaica. Certain Rastafarians claim that the late
> > King of Ethiopia,
> > Haile Selassie is Christ. Even they have no solid
> > dogma that is
> > professed.
> > >
> > > Most Jamaicans are Roman Catholic, Anglican and
> > other
> > denominations such as Seventh Day Adventists...not
> > Rastafarians.
> > Most Jamaicans did not support the idea Haile
> > Selassie's government
> > or even His Majesty's visit to Jamaica in 1966.
> > Jamaican born Marcus
> > Garvey publicly insulted Ras Tafari (Haile Selassie
> > I), calling His
> > Majesty a coward because he chose exile instead of
> > fighting side by
> > side with the Ethiopian resistance in regards to the
> > Italian invasion
> > (1936-41).
> > >
> > > My dream and hopefully future work is to see the
> > misconceptions,
> > ignorances and stereotypes of Ethiopians (Africans)
> > toward African
> > Caribbeans/African Americans. Likewise in all
> > equality, to see the
> > total view of African Caribbeans/African Americans
> > toward Ethiopians
> > (Africans) as the descents of Africa, as we are.
> > >
> > > So many of Western born Africans (the slave
> > descents) desire to
> > know the history of Africa and Asia. We desire to
> > know the Apostolic
> > traditions that our forefathers have inherited and
> > preserved, but we
> > are somewhat blind and on the other hand, some of
> > our brothers are
> > not warm-hearted and welcoming...maybe due to these
> > impediments, such
> > as racism, stereotypes and of course--media.
> > >
> > > We should worship our Lord, God and Savior Jesus
> > Christ and love
> > our brothers, as we love ourselves. This is the
> > first step toward
> > Christian love, law and unity.
> > >
> > > Thanks for listening and may God Almighty have
> > mercy upon us all.
> > >
> > > Your servant and brother in Christ,
> > >
> > > Hailepetros
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > fikre solomon <sfikre@> wrote:
> > > Hello james as u'r orthodox don't
> > believe never and ever
> > in orthodox church in Ethiopia to put icon of bob
> > there is nothing to
> > do with bob or Jamaicans but there is one thing that
> > the Jamaicans
> > start to believe king hailesilase that is all don't
> > mix things with
> > the icons.im strongly believe that it will not be
> > never and ever.
> > > thanks .
> > >
> > >
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----- Original Message ----
From: petros markos <hailepetros@...>
To: EthiopianChristianity@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 9:55:58 AM
Subject: Re: [EthiopianChristianity] View of Bob Marley


Selam Yossief and All Members:

   How are you?  Dear Yossief--my Brother...

   If you scroll down (in this post), you may see that I stated a fact about
Jamaica: 99% of the population of Jamaica, if not more 99.9%, do not even like
to hear Haile Selassie's name.

This is a bold lie emanating from a person who hates Haile Selassie. You do not
have a statistics based on facts, survey or any finding. The people of Jamaica
have
no reason to hate Haile Selassie. What did Haile Selassie do against the people
of
Jamaica ? Petros Markos, where are you from any way ?

  Not because he was Ethiopian, not because they are informed of his history or
his reign as emperor, but because the (most of the) Rastafarian movement (which
is not limited to Jamaica or Her people) has deified the late Emperor. This
cult, as in other cults are neo-religions using selected verses from the Holy
Bible as their source of reference.

Full of balogney ! There are many religions on earth who select verses from the
Holy Bible. What is your point ?

   Jehovah's Witnesses, for example have done the same.  Could you imagine (you
may, because the enemy of truth--sATAN) that a group who considers themselves to
be Christian, refers to the Archangel Michael and the [Lord] Jesus Christ  as
the same person?!  Their doctrine states that our Lord was created by God the
Father, to create a type of sub-world of we he rules, but He (the Lord Christ)
is not the ultimate ruler of All, along with the Father and the Holy Spirit. 
This is Gnosticism mixed with Arianism and another heresy of Macedonias (against
the Holy Spirit).  So, you may see how these cults originate using one or more
verses out of context, lack of knowledge of Biblical history and so fort.

If you tell me the church you go to, I will quote to you what others say about
your church. To each his own.

   Rastafarians are very much mocked in Ethiopia, although the Jamaican society
nowadays, has accepted them much more than in past times.  There were/are
missions of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church in the Western Hemisphere (I
don't know about Europe, but I am sure there are missions...) that are trying to
focus on the Rastafarian community in order to educate them about the Ethiopian
Orthodox Tewahido Faith, Ethiopian culture&history and even the life of Haile
Selassie.

Ras Tafarians may be miocked by the likes of you, not by all Ethiopians.

   I MUST SAY: THE FOCUS OF EDUCATING THOSE IN THE WESTERN REGIONS (by the EOTC)
is not limited to RASTAFARIANS or those who are born citizens of the West, but
also those descended directly from Ethiopia, who were born into the Orthodox
Tewahido Faith, but naturally lack the knowledge of our Holy Church and Order. 
Of course, as many may know, our Church is ancient, extensively dogmatic, rooted
deeply in Her culture and Apostolic in Her succession.  Therefore, it takes a
great deal of time, effort and willingness to educate and learn about Her.

Now I see yopu are attempting to associate yourself to Ethiopian Tewahido
Church. Apparently you lack the courtesy to respect others point of view.

   Before the members fall asleep while reading, I want  to say or suggest that
our members [including our beloved hierarchy (of the EOTC)] should make an
effort (a simple effort) to also educate other Churches about our Holy Ethiopian
Orthodox Tewahido Church.  I also serve (a minor role) in the Coptic Orthodox
Church (in my area) and I have found that we are very distanced.

If you are serving the Coptic Orthodox Church then you are not a member of
Ethiopian
Tewahido Church. I take it you are Egyptian Copt.

   The relationship between our Churches are unrivaled by no other.  It was a
Mother-Daughter, Father-Son relationship and this bond became broken in many
ways.  Of course, we don't deny our connection with the See of St. Mark, but the
relationship has severed in many ways.  I think if we are educated (by
researching ourselves or taught) by the proper sources, we can bridge this gap,
because we have a lot to learn from one another.
   The only integral AfricanOrthodoxChurches are Coptic (Egypt), Eritrean
Tewahido and Ethiopian Tewahido.  I am sure that this would also break and
destroy a majority of political problems that plague Ethiopians and Eritreans. 
It is a dreadful disease to see Tewahido brothers and sisters fighting, because
of borders!

My friend there is only one Tewahido Church and that is Ethiopian Tewahido
Church.
Every time you see political division, you do not keep spliting Ethiopian
Tewahido into
its political rival turf. Keep all those crazy splinters in your prayer.


   Learn and live our FAITH!

   'A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved
you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my
disciples, if ye have love one to another.'  Gospel of St. John 13: 34,35

   Glory be to God forever and ever (Amen).

   Your brother,

   hailepetros


Yossief <woldeyossief@...> wrote:
           Selam everyone

I read this message and just wanted to post my opinion.
I respect and honor how Jamaicans honor and respect Africa
our motherland. Most African people outside of Africa try
change their culture and belief to fit the western world's.

However what I don't understand is this. The Emperor HaileSellase
was an Orthodox Tewahdo believer. He never once claimed
to be the messiah or the way or the light. And he never
intended to create a faith. So what confuses me is, instead
of jamaicans converting to the faith of Hailesellase, they
worship him and started a new faith. Christ who was alive 2000 years
agot said that when he returns, it will be the end of days
so if hailesellase was the incarnate Christ why isn't the world
ended? I think it's very inconsistant. But I'm no expert or anything.

Have a blessed day.
--- In EthiopianChristianity@yahoogroups.com, Isaiah <isaiah36@...> wrote:
>
> RAS TAFARI LIVES AND REIGNS!!!
>
> My brothers, I am a Rastafarian, and I greet you in
> the name of the One true and living I Am, who loves to
> dwell in Ethiopia, revealed to I and I in the light of
> Iesos Kristos, and in the light of HIM Haile Selassie
> First.
>
> I and I Rastafari do not accept that HIM died in 1975,
> and we do not accept the body that has been buried in
> His name has been verified to be Him --- everyone here
> knows HIM is a Man of small physique. Yes, I and I
> view HIM is the christ returned, and thoroughness of
> the Biblical prophecies which I and I have shown to
> support this faith has been explained to the Abuna in
> 1961 by Rastafarian mission from Jamaica, hosted by
> HIM. The response of the Abuna was that while this is
> not Tewahedo doctrine it is indeed possible to
> interpret the Bible in this way. One would have to be
> ignorant of Ethiopian history to not realize that
> bitter doctrinal conflicts in the past have been
> rooted in very real issues, whereas it has been the
> understandable desire of the modern Emperors to have a
> unified doctrine for the empire. For this cause, I
> and I Rastafari have no agenda of religious
> conversion, and will upkeep reverence for all that is
> revered by HIM.
>
> I am not of Tewahedo church, yet I just attended
> Timkat festival in LA with great reverence. I felt at
> home and comfortable within the cultural atmosphere of
> tradition, and spiritually very much elevated by the
> great old hymns. I also witnessed a demon being cast
> out, as a poor woman outside began shaking and
> shouting! The great reverence Rastafarians have for
> all things ancient Ethiopian is not limited to
> Tewahedo, rather it envelops the spiritual and
> cultural values of our ancestors' faith-based life.
> Ethiopians have been a faithful people long before
> great King David (an Ethiopian) brought divine culture
> to Jerusalem or, the Saviour Iesos the Nazarene rose
> up from his bloodline. It is my humble opinion that
> tolerance and justice are pillars of that tradition of
> faith. Indeed the word habesha began to be used
> because Ethiopians refused racial categorixation,
> choosing instead to be identified by their values of
> sovereignty and freedom. In India, where I was born
> and raised, habshi always refers to black Ethiopians,
> as in the great King Malik Ambar - never to refer to
> any asiatic or arabic peoples.
>
> I believe Ethiopian christians and muslims should
> continue to set an example to the world of mutual
> respect and tolerance, which is the hallmark of
> Ethiopian life. Rather than permit the enemies of
> Ethiopia and their agents to drown the country in a
> bloodbath of foreign invention. The simple fact is
> that both christian and islamic imperialisms have not
> been good friends to Africa. Both religions are
> intimately associated with slavery and colonialism.
> That Ethiopia has been largely spared this fate is a
> blessing from the Almighty, because of the
> righteousness of our ancestors, and because of the
> barefoot soldiers of Ethiopia with hearts of lions.
>
> My brothers, please permit me to draw your attention
> to chapter 12 of Revelation- I believe we can find
> guidance and courage from this prophecy, even though
> it speaks of the persecution which will come upon
> Ethiopia because we keep the true testimonies of Iesos
> Kristos.
>
> Praying for many blessings of peace and love, for
> Lidet and Timkat of 2007,
>
> Isaiah
>
>
> --- baalshemtau <baalshemtau@...> wrote:
>
> > Thank You Right Reverend Petros Markos, I agree with
> > your wise words
> > and understanding of the Race touched by the
> > Spiritual Sun, Jesus
> > Christ, Who said that He is the Light of the World.
> > We hope that the
> > Work of the Ethiopian Church continues to guide the
> > African Desporia
> > to the Light of the World.
> >
> > We of the Jerusalem Sabbatarian Gnostic Church wish
> > to ask how are
> > the Ethiopian Nation faring now that the Jihadist
> > war is now being
> > waged against the Christian Ethiopian Nation.
> >
> > In Christian Solidarity
> > Baalshemtau
> > ------------------------------------------
> >
> > --- In EthiopianChristianity@yahoogroups.com, petros
> > markos
> > <hailepetros@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear James and Members of the Group,
> > >
> > > How are you? I hope that you are well. I am of
> > Jamaican
> > heritage and descent. I am most of all, Ethiopian
> > Orthodox Tewahido
> > in my faith.
> > >
> > > The late Bob Marley was baptized on his death
> > bed, Berhane
> > Selassie by an Ethiopian Orthodox Bishop. He is not
> > a saint of the
> > Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church...not even so
> > many of our late and
> > great archbishops, bishops, priests, deacons or
> > kings within the last
> > 400-500 years were dubbed saints.
> > >
> > > I have to correct the brother who said that
> > 'Jamaicans believe
> > that Haile Selassie is the Lord'. This is not true
> > of 99% of
> > Jamaica. Certain Rastafarians claim that the late
> > King of Ethiopia,
> > Haile Selassie is Christ. Even they have no solid
> > dogma that is
> > professed.
> > >
> > > Most Jamaicans are Roman Catholic, Anglican and
> > other
> > denominations such as Seventh Day Adventists...not
> > Rastafarians.
> > Most Jamaicans did not support the idea Haile
> > Selassie's government
> > or even His Majesty's visit to Jamaica in 1966.
> > Jamaican born Marcus
> > Garvey publicly insulted Ras Tafari (Haile Selassie
> > I), calling His
> > Majesty a coward because he chose exile instead of
> > fighting side by
> > side with the Ethiopian resistance in regards to the
> > Italian invasion
> > (1936-41).
> > >
> > > My dream and hopefully future work is to see the
> > misconceptions,
> > ignorances and stereotypes of Ethiopians (Africans)
> > toward African
> > Caribbeans/African Americans. Likewise in all
> > equality, to see the
> > total view of African Caribbeans/African Americans
> > toward Ethiopians
> > (Africans) as the descents of Africa, as we are.
> > >
> > > So many of Western born Africans (the slave
> > descents) desire to
> > know the history of Africa and Asia. We desire to
> > know the Apostolic
> > traditions that our forefathers have inherited and
> > preserved, but we
> > are somewhat blind and on the other hand, some of
> > our brothers are
> > not warm-hearted and welcoming...maybe due to these
> > impediments, such
> > as racism, stereotypes and of course--media.
> > >
> > > We should worship our Lord, God and Savior Jesus
> > Christ and love
> > our brothers, as we love ourselves. This is the
> > first step toward
> > Christian love, law and unity.
> > >
> > > Thanks for listening and may God Almighty have
> > mercy upon us all.
> > >
> > > Your servant and brother in Christ,
> > >
> > > Hailepetros
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > fikre solomon <sfikre@> wrote:
> > > Hello james as u'r orthodox don't
> > believe never and ever
> > in orthodox church in Ethiopia to put icon of bob
> > there is nothing to
> > do with bob or Jamaicans but there is one thing that
> > the Jamaicans
> > start to believe king hailesilase that is all don't
> > mix things with
> > the icons.im strongly believe that it will not be
> > never and ever.
> > > thanks .
> > >
> > >
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Peace and love.

--- Yossief <woldeyossief@...> wrote:

> Selam everyone
>
> I read this message and just wanted to post my
> opinion.
> I respect and honor how Jamaicans honor and respect
> Africa
> our motherland. Most African people outside of
> Africa try
> change their culture and belief to fit the western
> world's.
>
> However what I don't understand is this. The Emperor
> HaileSellase
> was an Orthodox Tewahdo believer. He never once
> claimed
> to be the messiah or the way or the light. And he
> never
> intended to create a faith. So what confuses me is,
> instead
> of jamaicans converting to the faith of
> Hailesellase, they
> worship him and started a new faith. Christ who was
> alive 2000 years
> agot said that when he returns, it will be the end
> of days
> so if hailesellase was the incarnate Christ why
> isn't the world
> ended? I think it's very inconsistant. But I'm no
> expert or anything.
>
> Have a blessed day.
> --- In EthiopianChristianity@yahoogroups.com, Isaiah
> <isaiah36@...> wrote:
> >
> > RAS TAFARI LIVES AND REIGNS!!!
> >
> > My brothers, I am a Rastafarian, and I greet you
> in
> > the name of the One true and living I Am, who
> loves to
> > dwell in Ethiopia, revealed to I and I in the
> light of
> > Iesos Kristos, and in the light of HIM Haile
> Selassie
> > First.
> >
> > I and I Rastafari do not accept that HIM died in
> 1975,
> > and we do not accept the body that has been buried
> in
> > His name has been verified to be Him --- everyone
> here
> > knows HIM is a Man of small physique.  Yes, I and
> I
> > view HIM is the christ returned, and thoroughness
> of
> > the Biblical prophecies which I and I have shown
> to
> > support this faith has been explained to the Abuna
> in
> > 1961 by Rastafarian mission from Jamaica, hosted
> by
> > HIM.  The response of the Abuna was that while
> this is
> > not Tewahedo doctrine it is indeed possible to
> > interpret the Bible in this way.  One would have
> to be
> > ignorant of Ethiopian history to not realize that
> > bitter doctrinal conflicts in the past have been
> > rooted in very real issues, whereas it has been
> the
> > understandable desire of the modern Emperors to
> have a
> > unified doctrine for the empire.  For this cause,
> I
> > and I Rastafari have no agenda of religious
> > conversion, and will upkeep reverence for all that
> is
> > revered by HIM.
> >
> > I am not of Tewahedo church, yet I just attended
> > Timkat festival in LA with great reverence.  I
> felt at
> > home and comfortable within the cultural
> atmosphere of
> > tradition, and spiritually very much elevated by
> the
> > great old hymns.  I also witnessed a demon being
> cast
> > out, as a poor woman outside began shaking and
> > shouting!   The great reverence Rastafarians have
> for
> > all things ancient Ethiopian is not limited to
> > Tewahedo, rather it envelops the spiritual and
> > cultural values of our ancestors' faith-based
> life.
> > Ethiopians have been a faithful people long before
> > great King David (an Ethiopian) brought divine
> culture
> > to Jerusalem or, the Saviour Iesos the Nazarene
> rose
> > up from his bloodline. It is my humble opinion
> that
> > tolerance and justice are pillars of that
> tradition of
> > faith.  Indeed the word habesha began to be used
> > because Ethiopians refused racial categorixation,
> > choosing instead to be identified by their values
> of
> > sovereignty and freedom.  In India, where I was
> born
> > and raised, habshi always refers to black
> Ethiopians,
> > as in the great King Malik Ambar - never to refer
> to
> > any asiatic or arabic peoples.
> >
> > I believe Ethiopian christians and muslims should
> > continue to set an example to the world of mutual
> > respect and tolerance, which is the hallmark of
> > Ethiopian life.  Rather than permit the enemies of
> > Ethiopia and their agents to drown the country in
> a
> > bloodbath of foreign invention.  The simple fact
> is
> > that both christian and islamic imperialisms have
> not
> > been good friends to Africa.  Both religions are
> > intimately associated with slavery and
> colonialism.
> > That Ethiopia has been largely spared this fate is
> a
> > blessing from the Almighty, because of the
> > righteousness of our ancestors, and because of the
> > barefoot soldiers of Ethiopia with hearts of
> lions.
> >
> > My brothers, please permit me to draw your
> attention
> > to chapter 12 of Revelation- I believe we can find
> > guidance and courage from this prophecy, even
> though
> > it speaks of the persecution which will come upon
> > Ethiopia because we keep the true testimonies of
> Iesos
> > Kristos.
> >
> > Praying for many blessings of peace and love, for
> > Lidet and Timkat of 2007,
> >
> > Isaiah
> >
> >
> > --- baalshemtau <baalshemtau@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Thank You Right Reverend Petros Markos, I agree
> with
> > > your wise words
> > > and understanding of the Race touched by the
> > > Spiritual Sun, Jesus
> > > Christ, Who said that He is the Light of the
> World.
> > > We hope that the
> > > Work of the Ethiopian Church continues to guide
> the
> > > African Desporia
> > > to the Light of the World.
> > >
> > > We of the Jerusalem Sabbatarian Gnostic Church
> wish
> > > to ask how are
> > > the Ethiopian Nation faring now that the
> Jihadist
> > > war is now being
> > > waged against the Christian Ethiopian Nation.
> > >
> > > In Christian Solidarity
> > > Baalshemtau
> > > ------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > --- In EthiopianChristianity@yahoogroups.com,
> petros
> > > markos
> > > <hailepetros@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear James and Members of the Group,
> > > >
> > > >   How are you?  I hope that you are well.  I
> am of
> > > Jamaican
> > > heritage and descent.  I am most of all,
> Ethiopian
> > > Orthodox Tewahido
> > > in my faith.
> > > >
> > > >   The late Bob Marley was baptized on his
> death
> > > bed, Berhane
> > > Selassie by an Ethiopian Orthodox Bishop.  He is
> not
> > > a saint of the
> > > Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church...not even so
> > > many of our late and
> > > great archbishops, bishops, priests, deacons or
> > > kings within the last
> > > 400-500 years were dubbed saints.
> > > >
> > > >   I have to correct the brother who said that
> > > 'Jamaicans believe
> > > that Haile Selassie is the Lord'.  This is not
> true
> > > of 99% of
> > > Jamaica.  Certain Rastafarians claim that the
> late
> > > King of Ethiopia,
> > > Haile Selassie is Christ.  Even they have no
> solid
> > > dogma that is
> > > professed.
> > > >
> > > >   Most Jamaicans are Roman Catholic, Anglican
> and
> > > other
> > > denominations such as Seventh Day
> Adventists...not
> > > Rastafarians.
> > > Most Jamaicans did not support the idea Haile
> > > Selassie's government
> > > or even His Majesty's visit to Jamaica in 1966.
> > > Jamaican born Marcus
> > > Garvey publicly insulted Ras Tafari (Haile
> Selassie
> > > I), calling His
> > > Majesty a coward because he chose exile instead
> of
> > > fighting side by
> > > side with the Ethiopian resistance in regards to
> the
> > > Italian invasion
> > > (1936-41).
> > > >
> > > >   My dream and hopefully future work is to see
> the
> > > misconceptions,
> > > ignorances and stereotypes of Ethiopians
> (Africans)
> > > toward African
> > > Caribbeans/African Americans.  Likewise in all
> > > equality, to see the
> > > total view of African Caribbeans/African
> Americans
> > > toward Ethiopians
> > > (Africans) as the descents of Africa, as we are.
> > > >
> > > >   So many of Western born Africans (the slave
> > > descents) desire to
> > > know the history of Africa and Asia.  We desire
> to
> > > know the Apostolic
> > > traditions that our forefathers have inherited
> and
> > > preserved, but we
> > > are somewhat blind and on the other hand, some
> of
> > > our brothers are
> > > not warm-hearted and welcoming...maybe due to
> these
> > > impediments, such
> > > as racism, stereotypes and of course--media.
> > > >
> > > >   We should worship our Lord, God and Savior
> Jesus
> > > Christ and love
> > > our brothers, as we love ourselves.  This is the
> > > first step toward
> > > Christian love, law and unity.
> > > >
> > > >   Thanks for listening and may God Almighty
> have
> > > mercy upon us all.
> > > >
> > > >   Your servant and brother in Christ,
> > > >
> > > >   Hailepetros
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > fikre solomon <sfikre@> wrote:
> > > >           Hello james as u'r orthodox don't
> > > believe never and ever
> > > in orthodox church in Ethiopia to put icon of
> bob
> > > there is nothing to
> > > do with bob or Jamaicans but there is one thing
> that
> > > the Jamaicans
> > > start to believe king hailesilase that is all
> don't
> > > mix things with
> > > the icons.im strongly believe that it will not
> be
> > > never and ever.
> > > > thanks .
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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Dear Group Members:

   How are you?  I hope that everyone is well and I apologize for not replying to
this message earlier (I just viewed it).  I also know that the moderator usually
takes time to approve the messages.

   To the member who wrote this last reply, welcome.  The truth is that God
Almighty--the Holy Trinity is the protector of Ethiopia's independence and our
Lady, the Holy Virgin Mary is Ethiopia's protectress, along with the hosts of
heaven.

   King David spoke by the Holy Spirit saying, 'The LORD is on my side; I will
not fear: what can man do unto me? The LORD taketh my part with them that help
me: therefore shall I see my desire upon them that hate me. It is better to
trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man. It is better to trust in the
LORD than to put confidence in princes. All nations compassed me about: but in
the name of the LORD will I destroy them. They compassed me about; yea, they
compassed me about: but in the name of the LORD I will destroy them. They
compassed me about like bees: they are quenched as the fire of thorns: for in
the name of the LORD I will destroy them. Thou hast thrust sore at me that I
might fall: but the LORD helped me. The LORD is my strength and song, and is
become my salvation. The voice of rejoicing and salvation is in the tabernacles
of the righteous: the right hand of the LORD doeth valiantly.'

   All Ethiopians of faith believe that God is their protector.  The Ethiopian
Orthodox Tewahido Church is responsible for procuring most of Ethiopia's
culture, history, academics, defense and of course Faith of our Lord.  Haile
Selassie I was a product of the EOTC.  If the Church didn't accept him, he would
not rule on the throne.

   Haile Selassie I was an Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Christian and received the
Mysteries of the Holy Church.  Ethiopia has a great history of Emperors,
Empresses, royality and especially Saints and Church fathers.

   There is no prophecy in the Holy Bible concerning Haile Selassie being Christ
or a Prophet. The Great Saint Tekle Haymenot was not deified, so how could one
deify Haile Selassie? Other great kings like Na'od and Zera Yaqob were not
dubbed Christ!  Haile Selassie's mother is definitely not the Holy Virgin
Mary...

   There is also no prophecy that distinctly describes the destruction of
Ethiopia.  Orthodox Tewahido has no history of slave driving or its advocacy and
never will--only slavery to our Lord, God and Savior Jesus Christ, to His Father
and the Holy Spirit--one God (Amen).

   Please keep attending the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church and please learn
its dogma, doctrine and spiritual path: the way to true life.

   Thank you and the Peace of our Lord Christ be with you all,

   hailepetros




Isaiah <isaiah36@...> wrote:
           RAS TAFARI LIVES AND REIGNS!!!

My brothers, I am a Rastafarian, and I greet you in
the name of the One true and living I Am, who loves to
dwell in Ethiopia, revealed to I and I in the light of
Iesos Kristos, and in the light of HIM Haile Selassie
First.

I and I Rastafari do not accept that HIM died in 1975,
and we do not accept the body that has been buried in
His name has been verified to be Him --- everyone here
knows HIM is a Man of small physique. Yes, I and I
view HIM is the christ returned, and thoroughness of
the Biblical prophecies which I and I have shown to
support this faith has been explained to the Abuna in
1961 by Rastafarian mission from Jamaica, hosted by
HIM. The response of the Abuna was that while this is
not Tewahedo doctrine it is indeed possible to
interpret the Bible in this way. One would have to be
ignorant of Ethiopian history to not realize that
bitter doctrinal conflicts in the past have been
rooted in very real issues, whereas it has been the
understandable desire of the modern Emperors to have a
unified doctrine for the empire. For this cause, I
and I Rastafari have no agenda of religious
conversion, and will upkeep reverence for all that is
revered by HIM.

I am not of Tewahedo church, yet I just attended
Timkat festival in LA with great reverence. I felt at
home and comfortable within the cultural atmosphere of
tradition, and spiritually very much elevated by the
great old hymns. I also witnessed a demon being cast
out, as a poor woman outside began shaking and
shouting! The great reverence Rastafarians have for
all things ancient Ethiopian is not limited to
Tewahedo, rather it envelops the spiritual and
cultural values of our ancestors' faith-based life.
Ethiopians have been a faithful people long before
great King David (an Ethiopian) brought divine culture
to Jerusalem or, the Saviour Iesos the Nazarene rose
up from his bloodline. It is my humble opinion that
tolerance and justice are pillars of that tradition of
faith. Indeed the word habesha began to be used
because Ethiopians refused racial categorixation,
choosing instead to be identified by their values of
sovereignty and freedom. In India, where I was born
and raised, habshi always refers to black Ethiopians,
as in the great King Malik Ambar - never to refer to
any asiatic or arabic peoples.

I believe Ethiopian christians and muslims should
continue to set an example to the world of mutual
respect and tolerance, which is the hallmark of
Ethiopian life. Rather than permit the enemies of
Ethiopia and their agents to drown the country in a
bloodbath of foreign invention. The simple fact is
that both christian and islamic imperialisms have not
been good friends to Africa. Both religions are
intimately associated with slavery and colonialism.
That Ethiopia has been largely spared this fate is a
blessing from the Almighty, because of the
righteousness of our ancestors, and because of the
barefoot soldiers of Ethiopia with hearts of lions.

My brothers, please permit me to draw your attention
to chapter 12 of Revelation- I believe we can find
guidance and courage from this prophecy, even though
it speaks of the persecution which will come upon
Ethiopia because we keep the true testimonies of Iesos
Kristos.

Praying for many blessings of peace and love, for
Lidet and Timkat of 2007,

Isaiah

--- baalshemtau <baalshemtau@...> wrote:

> Thank You Right Reverend Petros Markos, I agree with
> your wise words
> and understanding of the Race touched by the
> Spiritual Sun, Jesus
> Christ, Who said that He is the Light of the World.
> We hope that the
> Work of the Ethiopian Church continues to guide the
> African Desporia
> to the Light of the World.
>
> We of the Jerusalem Sabbatarian Gnostic Church wish
> to ask how are
> the Ethiopian Nation faring now that the Jihadist
> war is now being
> waged against the Christian Ethiopian Nation.
>
> In Christian Solidarity
> Baalshemtau
> ------------------------------------------
>
> --- In EthiopianChristianity@yahoogroups.com, petros
> markos
> <hailepetros@...> wrote:
> >
> > Dear James and Members of the Group,
> >
> > How are you? I hope that you are well. I am of
> Jamaican
> heritage and descent. I am most of all, Ethiopian
> Orthodox Tewahido
> in my faith.
> >
> > The late Bob Marley was baptized on his death
> bed, Berhane
> Selassie by an Ethiopian Orthodox Bishop. He is not
> a saint of the
> Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church...not even so
> many of our late and
> great archbishops, bishops, priests, deacons or
> kings within the last
> 400-500 years were dubbed saints.
> >
> > I have to correct the brother who said that
> 'Jamaicans believe
> that Haile Selassie is the Lord'. This is not true
> of 99% of
> Jamaica. Certain Rastafarians claim that the late
> King of Ethiopia,
> Haile Selassie is Christ. Even they have no solid
> dogma that is
> professed.
> >
> > Most Jamaicans are Roman Catholic, Anglican and
> other
> denominations such as Seventh Day Adventists...not
> Rastafarians.
> Most Jamaicans did not support the idea Haile
> Selassie's government
> or even His Majesty's visit to Jamaica in 1966.
> Jamaican born Marcus
> Garvey publicly insulted Ras Tafari (Haile Selassie
> I), calling His
> Majesty a coward because he chose exile instead of
> fighting side by
> side with the Ethiopian resistance in regards to the
> Italian invasion
> (1936-41).
> >
> > My dream and hopefully future work is to see the
> misconceptions,
> ignorances and stereotypes of Ethiopians (Africans)
> toward African
> Caribbeans/African Americans. Likewise in all
> equality, to see the
> total view of African Caribbeans/African Americans
> toward Ethiopians
> (Africans) as the descents of Africa, as we are.
> >
> > So many of Western born Africans (the slave
> descents) desire to
> know the history of Africa and Asia. We desire to
> know the Apostolic
> traditions that our forefathers have inherited and
> preserved, but we
> are somewhat blind and on the other hand, some of
> our brothers are
> not warm-hearted and welcoming...maybe due to these
> impediments, such
> as racism, stereotypes and of course--media.
> >
> > We should worship our Lord, God and Savior Jesus
> Christ and love
> our brothers, as we love ourselves. This is the
> first step toward
> Christian love, law and unity.
> >
> > Thanks for listening and may God Almighty have
> mercy upon us all.
> >
> > Your servant and brother in Christ,
> >
> > Hailepetros
> >
> >
> >
> > fikre solomon <sfikre@...> wrote:
> > Hello james as u'r orthodox don't
> believe never and ever
> in orthodox church in Ethiopia to put icon of bob
> there is nothing to
> do with bob or Jamaicans but there is one thing that
> the Jamaicans
> start to believe king hailesilase that is all don't
> mix things with
> the icons.im strongly believe that it will not be
> never and ever.
> > thanks .
> >
> >
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Selam Yossief and All Members:

   How are you?  Dear Yossief--my Brother...

   If you scroll down (in this post), you may see that I stated a fact about
Jamaica: 99% of the population of Jamaica, if not more 99.9%, do not even like
to hear Haile Selassie's name.  Not because he was Ethiopian, not because they
are informed of his history or his reign as emperor, but because the (most of
the) Rastafarian movement (which is not limited to Jamaica or Her people) has
deified the late Emperor. This cult, as in other cults are neo-religions using
selected verses from the Holy Bible as their source of reference.

   Jehovah's Witnesses, for example have done the same.  Could you imagine (you
may, because the enemy of truth--sATAN) that a group who considers themselves to
be Christian, refers to the Archangel Michael and the [Lord] Jesus Christ  as
the same person?!  Their doctrine states that our Lord was created by God the
Father, to create a type of sub-world of we he rules, but He (the Lord Christ)
is not the ultimate ruler of All, along with the Father and the Holy Spirit. 
This is Gnosticism mixed with Arianism and another heresy of Macedonias (against
the Holy Spirit).  So, you may see how these cults originate using one or more
verses out of context, lack of knowledge of Biblical history and so forth.

   Rastafarians are very much mocked in Ethiopia, although the Jamaican society
nowadays, has accepted them much more than in past times.  There were/are
missions of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church in the Western Hemisphere (I
don't know about Europe, but I am sure there are missions...) that are trying to
focus on the Rastafarian community in order to educate them about the Ethiopian
Orthodox Tewahido Faith, Ethiopian culture&history and even the life of Haile
Selassie.

   I MUST SAY: THE FOCUS OF EDUCATING THOSE IN THE WESTERN REGIONS (by the EOTC)
is not limited to RASTAFARIANS or those who are born citizens of the West, but
also those descended directly from Ethiopia, who were born into the Orthodox
Tewahido Faith, but naturally lack the knowledge of our Holy Church and Order. 
Of course, as many may know, our Church is ancient, extensively dogmatic, rooted
deeply in Her culture and Apostolic in Her succession.  Therefore, it takes a
great deal of time, effort and willingness to educate and learn about Her.

   Before the members fall asleep while reading, I want  to say or suggest that
our members [including our beloved hierarchy (of the EOTC)] should make an
effort (a simple effort) to also educate other Churches about our Holy Ethiopian
Orthodox Tewahido Church.  I also serve (a minor role) in the Coptic Orthodox
Church (in my area) and I have found that we are very distanced.

   The relationship between our Churches are unrivaled by no other.  It was a
Mother-Daughter, Father-Son relationship and this bond became broken in many
ways.  Of course, we don't deny our connection with the See of St. Mark, but the
relationship has severed in many ways.  I think if we are educated (by
researching ourselves or taught) by the proper sources, we can bridge this gap,
because we have a lot to learn from one another.

   The only integral AfricanOrthodoxChurches are Coptic (Egypt), Eritrean
Tewahido and Ethiopian Tewahido.  I am sure that this would also break and
destroy a majority of political problems that plague Ethiopians and Eritreans. 
It is a dreadful disease to see Tewahido brothers and sisters fighting, because
of borders!

   Learn and live our FAITH!

   'A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved
you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my
disciples, if ye have love one to another.'  Gospel of St. John 13: 34,35

   Glory be to God forever and ever (Amen).

   Your brother,

   hailepetros


Yossief <woldeyossief@...> wrote:
           Selam everyone

I read this message and just wanted to post my opinion.
I respect and honor how Jamaicans honor and respect Africa
our motherland. Most African people outside of Africa try
change their culture and belief to fit the western world's.

However what I don't understand is this. The Emperor HaileSellase
was an Orthodox Tewahdo believer. He never once claimed
to be the messiah or the way or the light. And he never
intended to create a faith. So what confuses me is, instead
of jamaicans converting to the faith of Hailesellase, they
worship him and started a new faith. Christ who was alive 2000 years
agot said that when he returns, it will be the end of days
so if hailesellase was the incarnate Christ why isn't the world
ended? I think it's very inconsistant. But I'm no expert or anything.

Have a blessed day.
--- In EthiopianChristianity@yahoogroups.com, Isaiah <isaiah36@...> wrote:
>
> RAS TAFARI LIVES AND REIGNS!!!
>
> My brothers, I am a Rastafarian, and I greet you in
> the name of the One true and living I Am, who loves to
> dwell in Ethiopia, revealed to I and I in the light of
> Iesos Kristos, and in the light of HIM Haile Selassie
> First.
>
> I and I Rastafari do not accept that HIM died in 1975,
> and we do not accept the body that has been buried in
> His name has been verified to be Him --- everyone here
> knows HIM is a Man of small physique. Yes, I and I
> view HIM is the christ returned, and thoroughness of
> the Biblical prophecies which I and I have shown to
> support this faith has been explained to the Abuna in
> 1961 by Rastafarian mission from Jamaica, hosted by
> HIM. The response of the Abuna was that while this is
> not Tewahedo doctrine it is indeed possible to
> interpret the Bible in this way. One would have to be
> ignorant of Ethiopian history to not realize that
> bitter doctrinal conflicts in the past have been
> rooted in very real issues, whereas it has been the
> understandable desire of the modern Emperors to have a
> unified doctrine for the empire. For this cause, I
> and I Rastafari have no agenda of religious
> conversion, and will upkeep reverence for all that is
> revered by HIM.
>
> I am not of Tewahedo church, yet I just attended
> Timkat festival in LA with great reverence. I felt at
> home and comfortable within the cultural atmosphere of
> tradition, and spiritually very much elevated by the
> great old hymns. I also witnessed a demon being cast
> out, as a poor woman outside began shaking and
> shouting! The great reverence Rastafarians have for
> all things ancient Ethiopian is not limited to
> Tewahedo, rather it envelops the spiritual and
> cultural values of our ancestors' faith-based life.
> Ethiopians have been a faithful people long before
> great King David (an Ethiopian) brought divine culture
> to Jerusalem or, the Saviour Iesos the Nazarene rose
> up from his bloodline. It is my humble opinion that
> tolerance and justice are pillars of that tradition of
> faith. Indeed the word habesha began to be used
> because Ethiopians refused racial categorixation,
> choosing instead to be identified by their values of
> sovereignty and freedom. In India, where I was born
> and raised, habshi always refers to black Ethiopians,
> as in the great King Malik Ambar - never to refer to
> any asiatic or arabic peoples.
>
> I believe Ethiopian christians and muslims should
> continue to set an example to the world of mutual
> respect and tolerance, which is the hallmark of
> Ethiopian life. Rather than permit the enemies of
> Ethiopia and their agents to drown the country in a
> bloodbath of foreign invention. The simple fact is
> that both christian and islamic imperialisms have not
> been good friends to Africa. Both religions are
> intimately associated with slavery and colonialism.
> That Ethiopia has been largely spared this fate is a
> blessing from the Almighty, because of the
> righteousness of our ancestors, and because of the
> barefoot soldiers of Ethiopia with hearts of lions.
>
> My brothers, please permit me to draw your attention
> to chapter 12 of Revelation- I believe we can find
> guidance and courage from this prophecy, even though
> it speaks of the persecution which will come upon
> Ethiopia because we keep the true testimonies of Iesos
> Kristos.
>
> Praying for many blessings of peace and love, for
> Lidet and Timkat of 2007,
>
> Isaiah
>
>
> --- baalshemtau <baalshemtau@...> wrote:
>
> > Thank You Right Reverend Petros Markos, I agree with
> > your wise words
> > and understanding of the Race touched by the
> > Spiritual Sun, Jesus
> > Christ, Who said that He is the Light of the World.
> > We hope that the
> > Work of the Ethiopian Church continues to guide the
> > African Desporia
> > to the Light of the World.
> >
> > We of the Jerusalem Sabbatarian Gnostic Church wish
> > to ask how are
> > the Ethiopian Nation faring now that the Jihadist
> > war is now being
> > waged against the Christian Ethiopian Nation.
> >
> > In Christian Solidarity
> > Baalshemtau
> > ------------------------------------------
> >
> > --- In EthiopianChristianity@yahoogroups.com, petros
> > markos
> > <hailepetros@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear James and Members of the Group,
> > >
> > > How are you? I hope that you are well. I am of
> > Jamaican
> > heritage and descent. I am most of all, Ethiopian
> > Orthodox Tewahido
> > in my faith.
> > >
> > > The late Bob Marley was baptized on his death
> > bed, Berhane
> > Selassie by an Ethiopian Orthodox Bishop. He is not
> > a saint of the
> > Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church...not even so
> > many of our late and
> > great archbishops, bishops, priests, deacons or
> > kings within the last
> > 400-500 years were dubbed saints.
> > >
> > > I have to correct the brother who said that
> > 'Jamaicans believe
> > that Haile Selassie is the Lord'. This is not true
> > of 99% of
> > Jamaica. Certain Rastafarians claim that the late
> > King of Ethiopia,
> > Haile Selassie is Christ. Even they have no solid
> > dogma that is
> > professed.
> > >
> > > Most Jamaicans are Roman Catholic, Anglican and
> > other
> > denominations such as Seventh Day Adventists...not
> > Rastafarians.
> > Most Jamaicans did not support the idea Haile
> > Selassie's government
> > or even His Majesty's visit to Jamaica in 1966.
> > Jamaican born Marcus
> > Garvey publicly insulted Ras Tafari (Haile Selassie
> > I), calling His
> > Majesty a coward because he chose exile instead of
> > fighting side by
> > side with the Ethiopian resistance in regards to the
> > Italian invasion
> > (1936-41).
> > >
> > > My dream and hopefully future work is to see the
> > misconceptions,
> > ignorances and stereotypes of Ethiopians (Africans)
> > toward African
> > Caribbeans/African Americans. Likewise in all
> > equality, to see the
> > total view of African Caribbeans/African Americans
> > toward Ethiopians
> > (Africans) as the descents of Africa, as we are.
> > >
> > > So many of Western born Africans (the slave
> > descents) desire to
> > know the history of Africa and Asia. We desire to
> > know the Apostolic
> > traditions that our forefathers have inherited and
> > preserved, but we
> > are somewhat blind and on the other hand, some of
> > our brothers are
> > not warm-hearted and welcoming...maybe due to these
> > impediments, such
> > as racism, stereotypes and of course--media.
> > >
> > > We should worship our Lord, God and Savior Jesus
> > Christ and love
> > our brothers, as we love ourselves. This is the
> > first step toward
> > Christian love, law and unity.
> > >
> > > Thanks for listening and may God Almighty have
> > mercy upon us all.
> > >
> > > Your servant and brother in Christ,
> > >
> > > Hailepetros
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > fikre solomon <sfikre@> wrote:
> > > Hello james as u'r orthodox don't
> > believe never and ever
> > in orthodox church in Ethiopia to put icon of bob
> > there is nothing to
> > do with bob or Jamaicans but there is one thing that
> > the Jamaicans
> > start to believe king hailesilase that is all don't
> > mix things with
> > the icons.im strongly believe that it will not be
> > never and ever.
> > > thanks .
> > >
> > >
> >
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Hi Yossief,

I understand your concern, but it is called FAITH. We
can't say this faith is the truth, and this is not.
for one, faith is a precious ally in the search of the
truth. For the Rasteferians, this is thier faith, for
Muslims they have thier own faith, and so on so on...
we all have a diffrent religion based on our faith.

Thank you,

--- Yossief <woldeyossief@...> wrote:

> Selam everyone
>
> I read this message and just wanted to post my
> opinion.
> I respect and honor how Jamaicans honor and respect
> Africa
> our motherland. Most African people outside of
> Africa try
> change their culture and belief to fit the western
> world's.
>
> However what I don't understand is this. The Emperor
> HaileSellase
> was an Orthodox Tewahdo believer. He never once
> claimed
> to be the messiah or the way or the light. And he
> never
> intended to create a faith. So what confuses me is,
> instead
> of jamaicans converting to the faith of
> Hailesellase, they
> worship him and started a new faith. Christ who was
> alive 2000 years
> agot said that when he returns, it will be the end
> of days
> so if hailesellase was the incarnate Christ why
> isn't the world
> ended? I think it's very inconsistant. But I'm no
> expert or anything.
>
> Have a blessed day.
> --- In EthiopianChristianity@yahoogroups.com, Isaiah
> <isaiah36@...> wrote:
> >
> > RAS TAFARI LIVES AND REIGNS!!!
> >
> > My brothers, I am a Rastafarian, and I greet you
> in
> > the name of the One true and living I Am, who
> loves to
> > dwell in Ethiopia, revealed to I and I in the
> light of
> > Iesos Kristos, and in the light of HIM Haile
> Selassie
> > First.
> >
> > I and I Rastafari do not accept that HIM died in
> 1975,
> > and we do not accept the body that has been buried
> in
> > His name has been verified to be Him --- everyone
> here
> > knows HIM is a Man of small physique.  Yes, I and
> I
> > view HIM is the christ returned, and thoroughness
> of
> > the Biblical prophecies which I and I have shown
> to
> > support this faith has been explained to the Abuna
> in
> > 1961 by Rastafarian mission from Jamaica, hosted
> by
> > HIM.  The response of the Abuna was that while
> this is
> > not Tewahedo doctrine it is indeed possible to
> > interpret the Bible in this way.  One would have
> to be
> > ignorant of Ethiopian history to not realize that
> > bitter doctrinal conflicts in the past have been
> > rooted in very real issues, whereas it has been
> the
> > understandable desire of the modern Emperors to
> have a
> > unified doctrine for the empire.  For this cause,
> I
> > and I Rastafari have no agenda of religious
> > conversion, and will upkeep reverence for all that
> is
> > revered by HIM.
> >
> > I am not of Tewahedo church, yet I just attended
> > Timkat festival in LA with great reverence.  I
> felt at
> > home and comfortable within the cultural
> atmosphere of
> > tradition, and spiritually very much elevated by
> the
> > great old hymns.  I also witnessed a demon being
> cast
> > out, as a poor woman outside began shaking and
> > shouting!   The great reverence Rastafarians have
> for
> > all things ancient Ethiopian is not limited to
> > Tewahedo, rather it envelops the spiritual and
> > cultural values of our ancestors' faith-based
> life.
> > Ethiopians have been a faithful people long before
> > great King David (an Ethiopian) brought divine
> culture
> > to Jerusalem or, the Saviour Iesos the Nazarene
> rose
> > up from his bloodline. It is my humble opinion
> that
> > tolerance and justice are pillars of that
> tradition of
> > faith.  Indeed the word habesha began to be used
> > because Ethiopians refused racial categorixation,
> > choosing instead to be identified by their values
> of
> > sovereignty and freedom.  In India, where I was
> born
> > and raised, habshi always refers to black
> Ethiopians,
> > as in the great King Malik Ambar - never to refer
> to
> > any asiatic or arabic peoples.
> >
> > I believe Ethiopian christians and muslims should
> > continue to set an example to the world of mutual
> > respect and tolerance, which is the hallmark of
> > Ethiopian life.  Rather than permit the enemies of
> > Ethiopia and their agents to drown the country in
> a
> > bloodbath of foreign invention.  The simple fact
> is
> > that both christian and islamic imperialisms have
> not
> > been good friends to Africa.  Both religions are
> > intimately associated with slavery and
> colonialism.
> > That Ethiopia has been largely spared this fate is
> a
> > blessing from the Almighty, because of the
> > righteousness of our ancestors, and because of the
> > barefoot soldiers of Ethiopia with hearts of
> lions.
> >
> > My brothers, please permit me to draw your
> attention
> > to chapter 12 of Revelation- I believe we can find
> > guidance and courage from this prophecy, even
> though
> > it speaks of the persecution which will come upon
> > Ethiopia because we keep the true testimonies of
> Iesos
> > Kristos.
> >
> > Praying for many blessings of peace and love, for
> > Lidet and Timkat of 2007,
> >
> > Isaiah
> >
> >
> > --- baalshemtau <baalshemtau@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Thank You Right Reverend Petros Markos, I agree
> with
> > > your wise words
> > > and understanding of the Race touched by the
> > > Spiritual Sun, Jesus
> > > Christ, Who said that He is the Light of the
> World.
> > > We hope that the
> > > Work of the Ethiopian Church continues to guide
> the
> > > African Desporia
> > > to the Light of the World.
> > >
> > > We of the Jerusalem Sabbatarian Gnostic Church
> wish
> > > to ask how are
> > > the Ethiopian Nation faring now that the
> Jihadist
> > > war is now being
> > > waged against the Christian Ethiopian Nation.
> > >
> > > In Christian Solidarity
> > > Baalshemtau
> > > ------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > --- In EthiopianChristianity@yahoogroups.com,
> petros
> > > markos
> > > <hailepetros@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear James and Members of the Group,
> > > >
> > > >   How are you?  I hope that you are well.  I
> am of
> > > Jamaican
> > > heritage and descent.  I am most of all,
> Ethiopian
> > > Orthodox Tewahido
> > > in my faith.
> > > >
> > > >   The late Bob Marley was baptized on his
> death
> > > bed, Berhane
> > > Selassie by an Ethiopian Orthodox Bishop.  He is
> not
> > > a saint of the
>
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Dear Group Members:

   How are you?  I hope that everyone is well by the will of God.  This post is a
response to one of the links that was included in one of the recent posts.  The
link gave a list of the successors of St. Frumentius (Abba Selama), the First
Bishop of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church.  In that list, there are Roman
Catholic/Jesuit bishops mentioned.  They are not successors of the See of St.
Mark or the Episcopate (Itchegay) of the EOTC.  They don't belong on any list
that begins with St. Frumentius or St. Tekle Hayamote (Itchegay) of the
Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church.

   I do not know all the successors of St. Frumentius (name by name), but I must
say in all defense of our Orthodox Tewahido Church of Abyssinia, that She and
Her children relinquished the Faith of Her Fathers.

   Susenyos and some of his party may have--without a doubt, but at the end of
the war with the Muhammadens, another bloody war began--with the Jesuits of
Portugal.  I posted some of the accounts of that history (found on the
internet):

        The third and great problem was the desire of the Roman Catholic Church
to bring the Ethiopian Christians under the jurisdiction of the Pope of Rome
(1520-1632). Several missionary workers and bishops (Jesuits) were sent to
Ethiopia for the purpose of conversion. Pedro Pais (Paes), Joao Burmudez, Andre
de Oviedo, Francisco Alvares and D. Alfonso Mendez were the notable leaders
among the missionaries. Their mission was the result of contact with King Manuel
and King Joam of Portugal made by Empress Eleni and her son Lebna Dengel
(Prester John) of Ethiopia, whose desire was to fortify their country against
the Turkish menace then pending, by alliance with a Christian neighboring power,
and to protect the Holy Land in which the tomb of the Lord Jesus Christ is. They
were very sad of the fact that all the Churches which were in the land of Egypt,
Nubia and Syria were destroyed by the Moors. Among the notable missionaries
Pedro Pais who reached Ethiopia in 1603. He lost
  no time in advertising the Church of Rome. He had brought Emperor Susneyos of
Ethiopia, to the  Roman Catholic religion.

   Pedro Pais ordered the people to kneel to him as representative of the Pope,
priests of the Ethiopian Church should be re-ordained by him and the whole
population of the country was regarded as heathen if not re-baptized under the
Roman Catholic religion. He ordered that churches had to be reconstructed and
altars were rebuilt in the Portuguese fashion.

   Meanwhile Susneyos issued a decree: death to be the penalty for those who
refused to agree with the Chalcedonian formula which the Ethiopians refused to
accept in 451 A.D. The hearts of the Ethiopian people were untouched, revolt
after revolt broke out as civil wars went on without any prospect of ending, and
thousands of men and women were killed. Such were the acst of the Jesuits in
Ethiopia. Susneyos died September 1632. He was succeeded by his son Fasilades,
during whose reign the Jesuits left the country by order.

   The mission of the Portuguese Jesuits had brought several formulas concerning
Christology. Two of which were Qebat (Anointing) and Tsegga (Son of Grace).
There appeared a great controversy and that threatened to divide the Church,
especially during the reign of Emperor Tewodros II (1855-1868). Qebat states
that Jesus became a perfect man and a perfect God by the anointing of the Holy
Spirit in the Jordan River and not upon the incarnation. Tsegga states three
births: eternal birth of the Son from the Father; genetic birth of the Son from
the Virgin Mary, and birth from the Holy Spirit during baptism. Such doctrinal
formulas died out by decree of Emperor Tewodros [This is the most common account
of the story that I found on the internet].

   Let me give an account that was published by the Patriarchate&Holy Synod of
the EOTC:

   ...But the end of this war became the beginning of another one--a religious
war, which was no less damaging than the previous one.  The main reason for this
was the question of religious proselytism waged by Catholic Portugal as a price
for the military assistance provided.

   After the fall of Ahmed Gragn, Rome felt that the time was ripe for the
conversionof Orthodox Ethiopia to Catholicism, but the result was contrary to
expectation.  In 1548, Abune Yasob arrived in Ethiopia. John II of Portugal was
unhappy with the arrival of the Egyptian bishop and he openly expressed his
desire that Orthodox Ethiopia should be under the jurisdiction of Rome.

   The former barber and diplomat John Bermudes resumed his mission of converting
to Catholicism, the Emperor as well as the common people by presenting himself
as having being appointed bishop.  Gelawdewos, however, declared that he had
never intended to renounce the Orthodox faith or to sever the religious ties
with Alexandria.  He also refused to recognize Bermudes' appointment as a bishop
of Rome but that he knew him only as a Portuguese diplomat.

   Bermudes was replaced by the Catholic bishop Barreto Oviedo who was also
commissioned to approach Emperor Gelawdwos (Emperor Claudius) with the same
question.  The Emperor arranged public debate between the Jesuit missionaries
and the Orthodox priests which were to be held in his presence.  Howerver,
Oviedo could not hold his ground and thus walked out of the debate.  He was much
disliked by Emperor Minas, the successor to Gelawdewos.  He was therefore openly
siding with some of the disaffected nobility and instigating them to rise up in
arms against the Emperor.

   In addition to this, during the reign of Ze'dengel, the King himself had shown
an inclination to Catholicism, but was defeated and killed in a war that the
nobility had instigated with the support of Abune Petros the then Egyptian
bishop of Ethiopia.  During the reign of Susenyos, the campaign of the
missionaries was so persistent that the Emperor yielded to them and went so far
as to issue a decree condemning the Orthodox Faith and giving recognition to
Catholicism as the state religion.  Death was instituted as the penalty for any
person who violated the proclamation.

   According to this proclamation, all the Books of the Orthodox Church were to
be revised and corrected by the Jesuits.  Circumcision was prohibited; the
precepts of the Orthodox Church on fasting days were amended; the calendar based
on the Ethiopic system was substituted by the Gregorian calendar and any priest
not ordained or authorized by the Catholic bishop was forbidden to celebrate the
Liturgy.  This situation brought about a crisis of unprecedented magnitude.

   Alarmed by the antagonism of the court towards the Church, Abune Simon
excommunicated Susenyos and all others who were adherents of the Chalcedonian
doctrine (Pope Leoism and Nestorianism).  He also called on all Orthodox
believers to stand firm in the Orthodox Faith.

   Shedding tears of bitterness and anger, several monks and priests demonstrated
with strong protests against the proclamation that condemned the Orthodox Faith.
In relation, the law was further enforced.  The situation was aggravated by the
public whipping  and flogging of the monks and priests who zealously defended
their faith before the Emperor.

   Despite the severity of the law, the nobles, rich and poor and clergy joined
forces and rose-up against him.  An apalling religious war ensued, engulfing the
entire Orthodox fellowship regardless of age and gender.  Abune Simon and many
members of the clergy were martyred and became living examples to followers of
the Orthodox Faith [Exerpt taken from: The Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church:
Faith, Order  of Worship and Ecumenical Relations]...

   Obviously, there is much more to this epic in Ethiopian history, but I just
wanted to express the relentlessness of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido
Faithful.  Tewahidos never ceased to have the strongest faith in their Creator
and will never cease to so.  St. Paul said, "One God, One Faith, One Baptism..."
This is what we believe and accept, no other.

   This is Christianity--Orthodox Tewahido, the Faith and Tradition of the
Apostles.

   Thank you for reading (I hope that you read, because I transcribed from the
book!).  May our Faithful God, the Father of the Lord Jesus Christ have mercy
upon us and strengthen us (Amen).

   Your brother and servant in Christ the Lord of All,

   hailepetros



   Beth Pope <spotnruby2@...> wrote:
           Thank you!

In Him
Beth

   On 3/19/07, Girum <gikiw@...> wrote:            
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Abunas_of_Ethiopia

http://ethiopianorthodox.org/images/images/todaysphoto/patriarchs/index.htm

http://ethiopianorthodox.org/english/indexenglish.htm














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This is an Essay that is sent to the Jerusalem
Sabbatarian Gnostic Church; a kabbalistic fellowship
of Jews and no-Jews who study the Ancient manuscripts
of great religious importance. Many of the manuscripts
are from private libraries and have not been
publishedand many of the members give summaries on
different topics. this Essay was written regarding the
Mystery of the "Kebra Negast" that a Kabbalistic
Jewish Rabbi wrote this Essay for the Church. I hope
it will be of interest to the group. Some will agree
with its message some wil not. Some of the Jews agree
and some do not. But I find truth in it.

Baalshemtau
---------------------------------
> The Sod of Cush
> Sod
>
>
>
>
>
> This Essay is very controversial and very profound
> to the people of Israel who have forsaken the
> covenant of God as was foretold in the Song of
> Moses. God has decreed that because of the apostasy
> of Israel in that they have stirred God to jealous
> with Alien gods. God will stir Israel to jealousy
> with an Alien people. It is in the Sod (Secret)
> Doctrine of the Prophets of Israel that the
> Mysteries of the Covenant of David have been passed
> to the Ethiopian Nation. It is the Ethiopian Peoples
> who are to provoke the peoples of Israel to jealousy
> and anger when they see the Glory of the Covenant of
> David among them. For the Great Purifier is to be
> born from Cush; the One who is to be the Mighty
> Hunter of the Shedim and the Grotesqueries that
> dwell in the Heavens. It shall be the Work of this
> Son of Cush to bring back Israel to the Covenant
> which they have forsook.
>
> Song of Moses;
>
> Israel is unmindful of the God who begat them and
> they forgot their God
> The Lord God saw this and rejected Israel
> Because of the provocation of his sons and his
> daughters
> And God said, 'I will hide my face from Israel
> I will foresee what their End will be
> For they are a perverse generation
> Sons in who is no faithfulness
>
> They have stirred God to jealousy with those who are
> no-god
> They have provoked God with their idols
> So God will stir Israel to jealousy with those who
> are not of His People
> He will make them angry by a foolish Nation
>
> Here God has ordained that because of the Trespass
> of Israel, Salvation and the Blessings of the
> Covenant comes to the Gentile Nations, so as to make
> Israel jealous. The One Gentile Nation that has been
> chosen for this purpose is the Ethiopian Nation.
> Because of the Sin of King Manasseh of Judah, some
> of the Prophets and Levites left Judah and went to
> Ethiopia and this gave rise to the Falashas of
> Ethiopia. When Christianity Came to Ethiopia, it
> gave rise to the Ethiopian Orthodox Church of Axum,
> One of the places where the ancient Ark of the
> Covenant is believed to be located. The Menelek
> Mythos has been written to teach this Sod Doctrine
> of the coming of this Son of Cush who shall be born
> as a Son of the Covenant of David, a Son of the
> Wisdom of Solomon. He shall stir Israel to jealousy
> and anger in that they have forsaken the Covenant
> and chosen Alien gods while He is of a Gentile
> Nation and has joined himself to the Lord and keep
> the Holy Covenant.
>
> It must be understood that the True House of David
> are those Rulers over Israel who rule in the Fear of
> the Lord and who Keep the Covenant of God and
> commands all Israel to keep the Covenant that was
> made in the land of Moab. The House of David that
> Issue from the Bloodline of David are not seen as
> the Heirs of His throne and Covenant. It is the Sons
> of the Wisdom of Solomon who walk in the way of the
> Kingship of David. The House of the Sons of David
> was established with Solomon, the Wise Son. David
> said this in 2nd Samuel 23:2-7;
> The Spirit of the Lord speaks by me
> His Word is upon my tongue
> The God of Israel has spoken
> The Rock of Israel has said to me
> When One rules Righteously over Men
> Ruling in the Fear of God
> He dawns upon them like the Morning Light
> Like the Sun shining forth upon a cloudless morning
> Like Rain that makes grass to sprout out of the
> earth
> Yes! Does not My House stand so with God?
> For He has made with me an everlasting Covenant
> Ordered in all things and secure
> He will cause to prosper all my help and my desire
> But the Sons of Belial are all like Thorns that are
> cast away
> For they cannot be taken by the hand
> But the Man who touches them
> Arms himself with Iron and the shaft of a Spear
> And they are utterly burned with fire
>
>
> The Righteous House of David is the House of the
> Sons of the Wisdom of Solomon. God has given the
> Kingship over Israel forever to the House of David
> by a perpetual Covenant. God has promised that a son
> shall be born of the Bloodline of David who shall
> inherit the Throne of David and be the Savior; this
> was fulfilled in Jesus Christ, the Messiah Ben
> David. Now as the Sons of Faith are reckoned as the
> Sons of Abraham; sons of the Covenant of Abraham; it
> is the Sons of the Wisdom of Solomon (The Wisdom of
> God) who are reckoned the Sons of David; Sons of the
> Covenant of David and the heirs of His Throne over
> Israel. It is the Wise Men of God who are given the
> Kingship over Israel because of their Wisdom and
> Understanding and their devotion to the Holy
> Covenant. They are the Kings and the Princes of
> Israel; Sons of the House and the Covenant of David.
>
>
> Proverbs 8:15; says this; "By me (Wisdom) kings
> reign and princes decree righteousness; by Wisdom
> princes rule and nobles and judges of the Earth."
>
> The Wisdom of Solomon 6:20; says this; "the Desire
> for Wisdom leads to a Kingdom. Therefore if you
> delight in Thrones and Scepters, O Kings over the
> Nations, Honor Wisdom, that you may reign forever."
>
> The Sons of the House of David are the Righteous
> Kings who keep the Covenant and the Great
> Commandments of God and Commands all of Israel to
> seek the Lord and to keep the covenant of God;
> ruling righteously over men, ruling in the Fear of
> the Lord.
>
> In 1st Kings 3; the young Solomon prayed for Wisdom
> and Understanding to discern Judgment. And God gave
> Solomon wisdom and understanding beyond measure and
> largeness of Consciousness like the sand on the
> seashore, so that Solomon's Wisdom surpassed the
> wisdom of all the people of the East (The Hindus of
> India) and all the wisdom of Egypt. The Wisdom of
> God was in Solomon and He became the Personification
> of this High Wisdom. King Solomon became to be seen
> by the Sages and the Prophets in their Sod Doctrine
> as the King of the Baalshems and the Master over all
> the Shedim. He had power over all the denizens of
> the Heavens and the Earth and of the Abyss by the
> Power of the Name of God. He became wise by the
> Omniscience of the God-Consciousness.
>
> In the Sod Doctrine of the Prophets of Israel, the
> Sons of the bloodline of Solomon that began with
> Rehoboam did not inherit the Wisdom of Solomon; thus
> they were not the sons of the Wisdom of Solomon. But
> they began to forsake the Covenant and to Sin and to
> ultimately profane the Holy of Holies in the reign
> of King Manasseh bringing wrath down upon the nation
> of Judah. But this is what is taught in the Sod
> Doctrine of the Prophets of Israel;
>
> The Wisdom of God came down from Heaven upon Mount
> Sinai
> And shed great splendor over all Israel
> And She dwelled with Israel for a Time
> Until after the Time of Solomon
> From that Time the Wisdom of God flew away to the
> Land of Ethiopia
> She shines there with exceedingly great brightness
> She shines upon the Sons of Ethiopia
> Filling them with Light
>
> It is taught in the Sod Doctrine that the Glory of
> Solomon departed from Israel when they forsook the
> Covenant. The Crown of the Wisdom of Solomon was
> carried away unto an Alien people, who knew not God,
> as was Prophecied. The Prophet Isaiah said this; "I
> have been sought by those who did not ask for me, I
> have been found by those who did not seek me, I
> said, 'Behold Me! Behold Me!' to A Nation that did
> not Call on My Name. For I have spread out My hands
> all the day to a rebellious People (Israel) who walk
> in a way that is not good, following their own
> thoughts. A people who provoke Me to My face
> continually." Because Israel has provoked God to
> wrath and for that reason, He has made the
> Tabernacle of the Wisdom of God to depart from them.
> Now the Law and the Wisdom and the Understanding of
> Solomon shall be given unto the Nation that did not
> Call upon the Name of God; The Ethiopian Nation. The
> Wisdom of God shall be given unto them and they
> shall Call unto Zion, because of a Man who shall be
> born. For the Glory of Solomon has been carried off
> to an Alien land. For Now it is not the Sons of the
> Bloodline of Solomon who are his Sons. But it is the
> Sons of His Wisdom who are his Sons and Heirs of the
> Covenant and the throne of David.
> In Isaiah 7:17 God says to the House of David; "The
> Lord is about to bring upon you and your people.
> such Days as have not come since the Days that
> Ephraim departed from Judah-The King of Assyria. In
> that day the Lord will whistle for the Fly which is
> at the source of the River of Egypt (Ethiopia is the
> Source of the Nile), and for the Bee which is in the
> land of Assyria." Here Wise Brethren we have
> mentioned the Fly of Ethiopia and the Bee of
> Assyria; the King of the South and the King of the
> North who shall battle in the Land of Israel in the
> last days.
>
> Isaiah 18 mentions Ethiopia as "The Land of
> Fluttering Wings (Hovering Angels) which is beyond
> the Rivers of Ethiopia; which sends ambassadors by
> the Nile.Go, you swift Angels to a Nation, tall and
> smooth, to a people feared near and far, a Nation
> mighty and Conquering, whose land the rivers
> divide." For Ethiopia, at the time of the rending of
> the Veil, shall be filled with Mighty Angels that
> will protect the Nation, because the Tabernacle of
> the Wisdom of God shall dwell there. Verse 7; at
> that time gifts will be brought to the Lord of Hosts
> from Ethiopia to Mount Zion. This is all of the Sod
> Doctrine of the Fly of Ethiopia.
>
> Now Wise Brethren, If you understand this Secret of
> Solomon; this Sod Doctrine of the Prophets of
> Israel, That it is not the sons of the bloodline of
> Solomon who are reckoned as his Sons, but the Sons
> of his Wisdom. For we all must become "Bayna-Lehkem"
> For in the Presence of God no flesh and blood shall
> Glory. Now this is the Sod Prophesy of David;
> The Sons of Solomon shall inherit the Countries of
> the Enemy Belial
> And they shall destroy those who worship Idols
> And the Sons of Solomon shall become the Kings of
> the Earth
> Three Heads of the kingdoms of the Earth
> They shall rule the Countries of the Enemy
> And the Nations shall serve the Lord under Three
> Royal Heads
>
> This Secret Prophecy of David states that the Sons
> of Solomon shall take over the Kingdoms of the Enemy
> Belial who stated to Jesus Christ in Luke 4:5; "and
> the devil (Belial) took him (Jesus) up and showed
> him all the Kingdoms of the World in a moment of
> time and all their Glory and said to him, 'to you I
> will give all this power and their glory; for it has
> been delivered to me, and I give it to whom I will.
> If you then will worship me it shall all be yours.'"
> Thus it is the destiny of the Sons of Solomon to
> overthrow the Kingdom of Belial, the god and prince
> of this world.
>
> Then all who seek the Wisdom of Solomon shall become
> his sons. But because Israel has provoked God to
> wrath with Alien gods and has forsaken the Covenant,
> God shall provoke Israel to Jealousy and anger by an
> Alien Nation and reject Israel until they repent.
> The People of Ethiopia are chosen from among Idols
> and graven Images to be the Heirs of the Glory of
> Solomon, for the Wisdom and the Understanding of
> Solomon shall be given unto them and the People of
> Israel were rejected to be given up to their alien
> gods until their repentance and return to the
> Covenant, for God has not rejected them utterly
> because of his promise to Abraham. The Blessing of
> Abraham has been given unto the sons of Joseph, but
> the Wisdom of Solomon is given unto the sons of
> Cush, for among the Sons of Cush is imparted a
> hidden and secret Wisdom of God, given for their
> Glorification for their repentance from dead Idols
> to the Living God and from them is the Prophecy of
> the Coming of the Purifier of Souls. This is why in
> the Odes of Solomon, Solomon says this of Himself;
> "All those will be astonished that see me. For from
> another race am I:"-OdesS 41:8. In the Song of
> Solomon, The Shulamith says this of Herself; "I am
> black, but comely, O daughters of Jerusalem, like
> the tents of Kedar, like the curtains of Solomon. Do
> not gaze at me because I am black, because the Sun
> has looked upon me."-SongS 1:5. This is because the
> Glory and the Wisdom of Solomon is among the Sons
> and the Daughters of Cush. If the Sons and the
> Daughters of Cush seek and pray for the Wisdom of
> God and enter into the Holy Covenant, then God will
> manifest Himself to them and Wisdom of God shall
> exalt them and give them a Name greater than the
> Sons and the daughters of Israel. For this is the
> Promise and the Sod of Cush.
>
> The Prophet Isaiah said this to the Gentiles in Isa.
> 56:3; "Do not let the Son of the Gentile say who
> joins himself to the Lord, saying, 'surely will the
> Lord separate me from his people:' and do not let
> the Eunuch say, 'behold I am a dried tree;'(for a
> man whose male member is cut off is forbidden to
> enter the assembly of God-Deuteronomy 23:1). For
> thus says the Lord to the Eunuchs (those forbidden
> to enter the Assembly of God) who keep the Sabbaths
> of the Lord and choose the things that pleases me,
> and takes hold of My Covenant. Even I will give to
> them in My House and in My Walls a Power and a Name
> better than the sons and the daughters of Israel; I
> will give them an everlasting Name that will not be
> cut off. And the Sons of the Alien who joins himself
> to the Lord to serve him, and to love the Name of
> the Lord to be His servants, everyone who keeps from
> defiling the Sabbath and takes hold of the Covenant
> of God: I will bring them to My Holy Mountain and
> make them joyful in My House of prayer. for My House
> shall be called a house of prayer for all the
> Nations." This is a promise to the Ethiopian Nation
> who are the chosen Heirs of the Wisdom of Solomon
> and to all the Nations who join themselves to the
> Lord by his Holy Covenant.
>
> This is the Hidden and Secret Sod of Cush. Blessed
> are those Wise Men among the People of Israel who
> are not offended by this. For the Lord God cries out
> to Israel; "Return, O Israel!"
>
>
> Peace within the Gnosis of Christ
>
> Jerusalem Sabbatarian Gnostic Church
> ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JSGChurch )
>




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Selam everyone

I read this message and just wanted to post my opinion.
I respect and honor how Jamaicans honor and respect Africa
our motherland. Most African people outside of Africa try
change their culture and belief to fit the western world's.

However what I don't understand is this. The Emperor HaileSellase
was an Orthodox Tewahdo believer. He never once claimed
to be the messiah or the way or the light. And he never
intended to create a faith. So what confuses me is, instead
of jamaicans converting to the faith of Hailesellase, they
worship him and started a new faith. Christ who was alive 2000 years
agot said that when he returns, it will be the end of days
so if hailesellase was the incarnate Christ why isn't the world
ended? I think it's very inconsistant. But I'm no expert or anything.

Have a blessed day.
--- In EthiopianChristianity@yahoogroups.com, Isaiah <isaiah36@...> wrote:
>
> RAS TAFARI LIVES AND REIGNS!!!
>
> My brothers, I am a Rastafarian, and I greet you in
> the name of the One true and living I Am, who loves to
> dwell in Ethiopia, revealed to I and I in the light of
> Iesos Kristos, and in the light of HIM Haile Selassie
> First.
>
> I and I Rastafari do not accept that HIM died in 1975,
> and we do not accept the body that has been buried in
> His name has been verified to be Him --- everyone here
> knows HIM is a Man of small physique.  Yes, I and I
> view HIM is the christ returned, and thoroughness of
> the Biblical prophecies which I and I have shown to
> support this faith has been explained to the Abuna in
> 1961 by Rastafarian mission from Jamaica, hosted by
> HIM.  The response of the Abuna was that while this is
> not Tewahedo doctrine it is indeed possible to
> interpret the Bible in this way.  One would have to be
> ignorant of Ethiopian history to not realize that
> bitter doctrinal conflicts in the past have been
> rooted in very real issues, whereas it has been the
> understandable desire of the modern Emperors to have a
> unified doctrine for the empire.  For this cause, I
> and I Rastafari have no agenda of religious
> conversion, and will upkeep reverence for all that is
> revered by HIM.
>
> I am not of Tewahedo church, yet I just attended
> Timkat festival in LA with great reverence.  I felt at
> home and comfortable within the cultural atmosphere of
> tradition, and spiritually very much elevated by the
> great old hymns.  I also witnessed a demon being cast
> out, as a poor woman outside began shaking and
> shouting!   The great reverence Rastafarians have for
> all things ancient Ethiopian is not limited to
> Tewahedo, rather it envelops the spiritual and
> cultural values of our ancestors' faith-based life.
> Ethiopians have been a faithful people long before
> great King David (an Ethiopian) brought divine culture
> to Jerusalem or, the Saviour Iesos the Nazarene rose
> up from his bloodline. It is my humble opinion that
> tolerance and justice are pillars of that tradition of
> faith.  Indeed the word habesha began to be used
> because Ethiopians refused racial categorixation,
> choosing instead to be identified by their values of
> sovereignty and freedom.  In India, where I was born
> and raised, habshi always refers to black Ethiopians,
> as in the great King Malik Ambar - never to refer to
> any asiatic or arabic peoples.
>
> I believe Ethiopian christians and muslims should
> continue to set an example to the world of mutual
> respect and tolerance, which is the hallmark of
> Ethiopian life.  Rather than permit the enemies of
> Ethiopia and their agents to drown the country in a
> bloodbath of foreign invention.  The simple fact is
> that both christian and islamic imperialisms have not
> been good friends to Africa.  Both religions are
> intimately associated with slavery and colonialism.
> That Ethiopia has been largely spared this fate is a
> blessing from the Almighty, because of the
> righteousness of our ancestors, and because of the
> barefoot soldiers of Ethiopia with hearts of lions.
>
> My brothers, please permit me to draw your attention
> to chapter 12 of Revelation- I believe we can find
> guidance and courage from this prophecy, even though
> it speaks of the persecution which will come upon
> Ethiopia because we keep the true testimonies of Iesos
> Kristos.
>
> Praying for many blessings of peace and love, for
> Lidet and Timkat of 2007,
>
> Isaiah
>
>
> --- baalshemtau <baalshemtau@...> wrote:
>
> > Thank You Right Reverend Petros Markos, I agree with
> > your wise words
> > and understanding of the Race touched by the
> > Spiritual Sun, Jesus
> > Christ, Who said that He is the Light of the World.
> > We hope that the
> > Work of the Ethiopian Church continues to guide the
> > African Desporia
> > to the Light of the World.
> >
> > We of the Jerusalem Sabbatarian Gnostic Church wish
> > to ask how are
> > the Ethiopian Nation faring now that the Jihadist
> > war is now being
> > waged against the Christian Ethiopian Nation.
> >
> > In Christian Solidarity
> > Baalshemtau
> > ------------------------------------------
> >
> > --- In EthiopianChristianity@yahoogroups.com, petros
> > markos
> > <hailepetros@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear James and Members of the Group,
> > >
> > >   How are you?  I hope that you are well.  I am of
> > Jamaican
> > heritage and descent.  I am most of all, Ethiopian
> > Orthodox Tewahido
> > in my faith.
> > >
> > >   The late Bob Marley was baptized on his death
> > bed, Berhane
> > Selassie by an Ethiopian Orthodox Bishop.  He is not
> > a saint of the
> > Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church...not even so
> > many of our late and
> > great archbishops, bishops, priests, deacons or
> > kings within the last
> > 400-500 years were dubbed saints.
> > >
> > >   I have to correct the brother who said that
> > 'Jamaicans believe
> > that Haile Selassie is the Lord'.  This is not true
> > of 99% of
> > Jamaica.  Certain Rastafarians claim that the late
> > King of Ethiopia,
> > Haile Selassie is Christ.  Even they have no solid
> > dogma that is
> > professed.
> > >
> > >   Most Jamaicans are Roman Catholic, Anglican and
> > other
> > denominations such as Seventh Day Adventists...not
> > Rastafarians.
> > Most Jamaicans did not support the idea Haile
> > Selassie's government
> > or even His Majesty's visit to Jamaica in 1966.
> > Jamaican born Marcus
> > Garvey publicly insulted Ras Tafari (Haile Selassie
> > I), calling His
> > Majesty a coward because he chose exile instead of
> > fighting side by
> > side with the Ethiopian resistance in regards to the
> > Italian invasion
> > (1936-41).
> > >
> > >   My dream and hopefully future work is to see the
> > misconceptions,
> > ignorances and stereotypes of Ethiopians (Africans)
> > toward African
> > Caribbeans/African Americans.  Likewise in all
> > equality, to see the
> > total view of African Caribbeans/African Americans
> > toward Ethiopians
> > (Africans) as the descents of Africa, as we are.
> > >
> > >   So many of Western born Africans (the slave
> > descents) desire to
> > know the history of Africa and Asia.  We desire to
> > know the Apostolic
> > traditions that our forefathers have inherited and
> > preserved, but we
> > are somewhat blind and on the other hand, some of
> > our brothers are
> > not warm-hearted and welcoming...maybe due to these
> > impediments, such
> > as racism, stereotypes and of course--media.
> > >
> > >   We should worship our Lord, God and Savior Jesus
> > Christ and love
> > our brothers, as we love ourselves.  This is the
> > first step toward
> > Christian love, law and unity.
> > >
> > >   Thanks for listening and may God Almighty have
> > mercy upon us all.
> > >
> > >   Your servant and brother in Christ,
> > >
> > >   Hailepetros
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > fikre solomon <sfikre@> wrote:
> > >           Hello james as u'r orthodox don't
> > believe never and ever
> > in orthodox church in Ethiopia to put icon of bob
> > there is nothing to
> > do with bob or Jamaicans but there is one thing that
> > the Jamaicans
> > start to believe king hailesilase that is all don't
> > mix things with
> > the icons.im strongly believe that it will not be
> > never and ever.
> > > thanks .
> > >
> > >
> >
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> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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RAS TAFARI LIVES AND REIGNS!!!

My brothers, I am a Rastafarian, and I greet you in
the name of the One true and living I Am, who loves to
dwell in Ethiopia, revealed to I and I in the light of
Iesos Kristos, and in the light of HIM Haile Selassie
First.

I and I Rastafari do not accept that HIM died in 1975,
and we do not accept the body that has been buried in
His name has been verified to be Him --- everyone here
knows HIM is a Man of small physique.  Yes, I and I
view HIM is the christ returned, and thoroughness of
the Biblical prophecies which I and I have shown to
support this faith has been explained to the Abuna in
1961 by Rastafarian mission from Jamaica, hosted by
HIM.  The response of the Abuna was that while this is
not Tewahedo doctrine it is indeed possible to
interpret the Bible in this way.  One would have to be
ignorant of Ethiopian history to not realize that
bitter doctrinal conflicts in the past have been
rooted in very real issues, whereas it has been the
understandable desire of the modern Emperors to have a
unified doctrine for the empire.  For this cause, I
and I Rastafari have no agenda of religious
conversion, and will upkeep reverence for all that is
revered by HIM.

I am not of Tewahedo church, yet I just attended
Timkat festival in LA with great reverence.  I felt at
home and comfortable within the cultural atmosphere of
tradition, and spiritually very much elevated by the
great old hymns.  I also witnessed a demon being cast
out, as a poor woman outside began shaking and
shouting!   The great reverence Rastafarians have for
all things ancient Ethiopian is not limited to
Tewahedo, rather it envelops the spiritual and
cultural values of our ancestors' faith-based life.
Ethiopians have been a faithful people long before
great King David (an Ethiopian) brought divine culture
to Jerusalem or, the Saviour Iesos the Nazarene rose
up from his bloodline. It is my humble opinion that
tolerance and justice are pillars of that tradition of
faith.  Indeed the word habesha began to be used
because Ethiopians refused racial categorixation,
choosing instead to be identified by their values of
sovereignty and freedom.  In India, where I was born
and raised, habshi always refers to black Ethiopians,
as in the great King Malik Ambar - never to refer to
any asiatic or arabic peoples.

I believe Ethiopian christians and muslims should
continue to set an example to the world of mutual
respect and tolerance, which is the hallmark of
Ethiopian life.  Rather than permit the enemies of
Ethiopia and their agents to drown the country in a
bloodbath of foreign invention.  The simple fact is
that both christian and islamic imperialisms have not
been good friends to Africa.  Both religions are
intimately associated with slavery and colonialism.
That Ethiopia has been largely spared this fate is a
blessing from the Almighty, because of the
righteousness of our ancestors, and because of the
barefoot soldiers of Ethiopia with hearts of lions.

My brothers, please permit me to draw your attention
to chapter 12 of Revelation- I believe we can find
guidance and courage from this prophecy, even though
it speaks of the persecution which will come upon
Ethiopia because we keep the true testimonies of Iesos
Kristos.

Praying for many blessings of peace and love, for
Lidet and Timkat of 2007,

Isaiah


--- baalshemtau <baalshemtau@...> wrote:

> Thank You Right Reverend Petros Markos, I agree with
> your wise words
> and understanding of the Race touched by the
> Spiritual Sun, Jesus
> Christ, Who said that He is the Light of the World.
> We hope that the
> Work of the Ethiopian Church continues to guide the
> African Desporia
> to the Light of the World.
>
> We of the Jerusalem Sabbatarian Gnostic Church wish
> to ask how are
> the Ethiopian Nation faring now that the Jihadist
> war is now being
> waged against the Christian Ethiopian Nation.
>
> In Christian Solidarity
> Baalshemtau
> ------------------------------------------
>
> --- In EthiopianChristianity@yahoogroups.com, petros
> markos
> <hailepetros@...> wrote:
> >
> > Dear James and Members of the Group,
> >
> >   How are you?  I hope that you are well.  I am of
> Jamaican
> heritage and descent.  I am most of all, Ethiopian
> Orthodox Tewahido
> in my faith.
> >
> >   The late Bob Marley was baptized on his death
> bed, Berhane
> Selassie by an Ethiopian Orthodox Bishop.  He is not
> a saint of the
> Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church...not even so
> many of our late and
> great archbishops, bishops, priests, deacons or
> kings within the last
> 400-500 years were dubbed saints.
> >
> >   I have to correct the brother who said that
> 'Jamaicans believe
> that Haile Selassie is the Lord'.  This is not true
> of 99% of
> Jamaica.  Certain Rastafarians claim that the late
> King of Ethiopia,
> Haile Selassie is Christ.  Even they have no solid
> dogma that is
> professed.
> >
> >   Most Jamaicans are Roman Catholic, Anglican and
> other
> denominations such as Seventh Day Adventists...not
> Rastafarians.
> Most Jamaicans did not support the idea Haile
> Selassie's government
> or even His Majesty's visit to Jamaica in 1966.
> Jamaican born Marcus
> Garvey publicly insulted Ras Tafari (Haile Selassie
> I), calling His
> Majesty a coward because he chose exile instead of
> fighting side by
> side with the Ethiopian resistance in regards to the
> Italian invasion
> (1936-41).
> >
> >   My dream and hopefully future work is to see the
> misconceptions,
> ignorances and stereotypes of Ethiopians (Africans)
> toward African
> Caribbeans/African Americans.  Likewise in all
> equality, to see the
> total view of African Caribbeans/African Americans
> toward Ethiopians
> (Africans) as the descents of Africa, as we are.
> >
> >   So many of Western born Africans (the slave
> descents) desire to
> know the history of Africa and Asia.  We desire to
> know the Apostolic
> traditions that our forefathers have inherited and
> preserved, but we
> are somewhat blind and on the other hand, some of
> our brothers are
> not warm-hearted and welcoming...maybe due to these
> impediments, such
> as racism, stereotypes and of course--media.
> >
> >   We should worship our Lord, God and Savior Jesus
> Christ and love
> our brothers, as we love ourselves.  This is the
> first step toward
> Christian love, law and unity.
> >
> >   Thanks for listening and may God Almighty have
> mercy upon us all.
> >
> >   Your servant and brother in Christ,
> >
> >   Hailepetros
> >
> >
> >
> > fikre solomon <sfikre@...> wrote:
> >           Hello james as u'r orthodox don't
> believe never and ever
> in orthodox church in Ethiopia to put icon of bob
> there is nothing to
> do with bob or Jamaicans but there is one thing that
> the Jamaicans
> start to believe king hailesilase that is all don't
> mix things with
> the icons.im strongly believe that it will not be
> never and ever.
> > thanks .
> >
> >
>
http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=weather&FORM=WLMTAG
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Yahoo.com
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Dear Baalshmtau and all of our Family [in the YahooGroups]:

   How is everyone?  I hope and pray that all are well in the name of the Father,
the Son and the Holy Spirit--one God (Amen).  Thank you for the reply concerning
the Holy Orthodox Tewahido Church Mission.  The Oriental Orthodox Churches of
Africa seem to specifically have a premier role in attending to the African
Diaspora.  This mission should be accepted by all of us--hierarchy and lay
persons alike.  This mission commenced since the Descent of the Holy Spirit upon
the Apostles and Holy Women in the Upper Room of Zion.

   We cannot say that any faithful member of the Holy Orthodox Church has ever
ceased to pray for God's will to be done--not at any moment.  The Holy Ones, who
we see and don't see are relentless in this effort and by God's will, they will
continue to inspire many more.

   As far as the Jihadists, I believe that all Ethiopians are praying to Her Lord
and to the Mother of Her Lord for peace and safety.  It is not new to Ethiopia
and by God's ultimate will, She will be safe.  I hope that everyone, worldwide
will pray for peace and mercy, not only for Ethiopia, but for all nations and
peoples.  The devil does not cease to set traps for all humans, so why don't all
humans set traps for the devil?

   The first step is prayer...

   I apologize for not wishing everyone a Happy Feast of the Baptism of our Lord,
God and Savior Jesus Christ [the 11th of Ter/Ethiopian Calendar and the 11th of
Touba/Coptic Calendar].  The Feast of the Baptism of our Lord Christ is of
course, one of the NINE MAJOR FEAST DAYS of our LORD, GOD AND SAVIOR JESUS
CHRIST.  He was not baptized at the hand of St. John (the Baptist) for the
remission of His sins (because He was sinless), but He was baptized to fulfill
prophecies of the Old Testament, to reveal and establish mysteries...

   What prophecies were fulfilled?  I will list some:

     'And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.' [Genesis 1]

   'And when Abram heard that his brother was taken captive, he armed his trained
servants, born in his own house, three hundred and eighteen, and pursued them
unto Dan.
    And he divided himself against them, he and his servants, by night, and smote
them, and pursued them unto Hobah, which is on the left hand of Damascus.    And
he brought back all the goods, and also brought again his brother Lot, and his
goods, and the women also, and the people.    And the king of Sodom went out to
meet him after his return from the slaughter of Chedorlaomer, and of the kings
that were with him, at the valley of Shaveh, which is the king's dale.    And
Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of
the most high God.    And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most
high God, possessor of heaven and earth:    And blessed be the most high God,
which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.
And the king of Sodom said unto Abram, Give me the persons, and take the goods
to thyself.    And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I have lift up mine hand
unto the LORD, the most high
  God, the possessor of heaven and earth,    That I will not take from a thread
even to a shoelatchet, and that I will not take any thing that is thine, lest
thou shouldest say, I have made Abram rich:' [Genesis 14]

   ' Judah was his sanctuary, and Israel his dominion.
    The sea saw it, and fled: Jordan was driven back.    The mountains skipped
like rams, and the little hills like lambs.    What ailed thee, O thou sea, that
thou fleddest? thou Jordan, that thou wast driven back?"
   [Psalm of David 114]

   'Now Naaman, captain of the host of the king of Syria, was a great man with
his master, and honourable, because by him the LORD had given deliverance unto
Syria: he was also a mighty man in valour, but he was a leper.
    And the Syrians had gone out by companies, and had brought away captive out
of the land of Israel a little maid; and she waited on Naaman's wife.    And she
said unto her mistress, Would God my lord were with the prophet that is in
Samaria! for he would recover him of his leprosy.    And one went in, and told
his lord, saying, Thus and thus said the maid that is of the land of Israel.   
And the king of Syria said, Go to, go, and I will send a letter unto the king of
Israel. And he departed, and took with him ten talents of silver, and six
thousand pieces of gold, and ten changes of raiment.    And he brought the
letter to the king of Israel, saying, Now when this letter is come unto thee,
behold, I have therewith sent Naaman my servant to thee, that thou mayest
recover him of his leprosy.    And it came to pass, when the king of Israel had
read the letter, that he rent his clothes, and said, Am I God, to kill and to
make alive, that this man doth send unto me to recover
  a man of his leprosy? wherefore consider, I pray you, and see how he seeketh a
quarrel against me.    And it was so, when Elisha the man of God had heard that
the king of Israel had rent his clothes, that he sent to the king, saying,
Wherefore hast thou rent thy clothes? let him come now to me, and he shall know
that there is a prophet in Israel.    So Naaman came with his horses and with
his chariot, and stood at the door of the house of Elisha.    And Elisha sent a
messenger unto him, saying, Go and wash in Jordan seven times, and thy flesh
shall come again to thee, and thou shalt be clean.    But Naaman was wroth, and
went away, and said, Behold, I thought, He will surely come out to me, and
stand, and call on the name of the LORD his God, and strike his hand over the
place, and recover the leper.    Are not Abana and Pharpar, rivers of Damascus,
better than all the waters of Israel? may I not wash in them, and be clean? So
he turned and went away in a rage.    And his
  servants came near, and spake unto him, and said, My father, if the prophet had
bid thee do some great thing, wouldest thou not have done it? how much rather
then, when he saith to thee, Wash, and be clean?    Then went he down, and
dipped himself seven times in Jordan, according to the saying of the man of God:
and his flesh came again like unto the flesh of a little child, and he was
clean.    And he returned to the man of God, he and all his company, and came,
and stood before him: and he said, Behold, now I know that there is no God in
all the earth, but in Israel: now therefore, I pray thee, take a blessing of thy
servant.' [II Kings 5]

   'Indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is
mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with
the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
    Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather
his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.   
But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou
to me?    And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it
becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.    And Jesus,
when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens
were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and
lighting upon him:
    And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well
pleased.' [Gospel of Saint Matthew 5]


   These are just a few of the prophecies, it would take time to list and to
explain them all.  So what mysteries were revealed?  Also, it would take time
and a lot of space to explain all of them, but I will mention a few...

   When our Lord, the Creator of All was baptized in the Jordan, He not only
fulfilled the prophecies of the Old Testament, but He implemented the path of
our redemption with another major step of His Life--descending and ascending to
and out of the Jordan River.

   It is said in our Holy (Oral) Tradition that after Adam and Eve were tired of
being tormented by our adversary sATAN. The wicked one (sATAN) made our father
and mother an offer.  The offer was to 'sign a contract' written in stone, to
prevent further torment.  The one tablet of stone that was signed by Adam
stated, "I am Adam, a manservant of Satna'el [or Satan]."  The other tablet was
signed by Eve (Hewan) and it stated, "I am Eve [Hewan], maidservant of
Satna'el."

   Satan took the tablet that was engraved by Eve and placed it in Hell
(Gehenam).  The other stone tablet was thrown in the Jordan River (by Satan). 
So when our Lord was baptized at the hand of Saint John, straightway the river
began to boil and he descended to the bottom of Jordan in order to destroy the
'indictment' that was written by our father Adam.  The One Incarnate Nature of
God the Word shattered this 'contract' between the Devil and the son of
God--Adam, by becoming the Second Adam.  Obviously, the stone that Hewan signed
was melted when our Lord and Savior descended into Hell on the Holy Friday
(Siklet) after giving up His Spirit by His Own Will.

   When we are baptized, we are baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and
the Holy Spirit--one God.  Who's name was our Lord Jesus Christ baptized in and
by?!

   When the Lamb of God approached Saint John the Baptist, St. John asked the
Lord, "Why should you come to me? I should be coming to you!"  Our Lord allowed
it to be this way, in order to express the commandment of humility to all--rich
and poor, tall and short, colonel and private, king and queen.  He restored the
authority of 'son of God' to His creation by giving them the authority.  The
authority to remit sins and to bind sins, on earth and in heaven.  Don't you
remember when the Jews asked, "Who is he to forgive sins; only God can forgive
sins!"  Now, because of the mystery [The Mystery of Holy Orders and Penance], we
have remission of sins through bishops and priests:  "Is it not written, Ye are
gods?" The Lord said.

   Anyway, everyone has to be humbled before the Clergy of our Lord, the Clergy
of the One, Holy, Universal and Apostolic Church in order to be baptized (the
initiation of ILLUMINATION, the sacrament and mystery).  The bishops and priests
do not bring water to perfectly healthy kings and queens...to their palaces, but
they must come to the House of the Christians--the Body of Christ with humility
and broken hearts of repentance.

   So, who's name would St. John baptize our Lord?  St. John asked the Word of
God, "If I say in the name of the Father, He is Your Heart!  If I say in the
name of the Holy Spirit, He is Your Breath!"  The Lord Jesus Christ replied, "O
John, desist and do not make much speech, lest the devil hear and be on his
guard against me."  Because of this, the devil came to watch hopefully over him
from the day of his birth until his death to see everything he did.  When he saw
the work of the Godhead, namely raising the dead, seizing of souls and the like,
he would fear and say, "I wonder whether he is Christ about whom the prophets
prophesied?!"  When he examined the works of his mandhood, namely thirst,
hunger, crying and the like, he would say, "He is a prophet like Elijah and
Elisha."  Therefore, he compelled his brethren to crucifiy Him upon a cross. 
But when he (the devil), in a splendid appearance approached Him (our Lord)
while He was nailed to the Cross, to take his soul
  from his flesh and not seeing the Lord tremble in fear, he attempted to
retreat--knowing that this was the Son of God. Then the Lord, the Wisdom of God
uttered, "I thirst.", knowing that the devil would return to Him. Satan,
believing that He was merely a man, rejoicing and thinking that His blood had
dried-up (as all who die) drew near to the Lord--who returned His Own Soul to
His Own Flesh, by His Own Will, seized and imprisoned the the angel of death:
Satan.

   The mystery of Baptism expresses a glorious birth, death, burial and
resurrection in Christ our Redeemer.  We are born again (by God; we are adopted
by the Holy Trinity and born again), we die and then burried (this is symbolized
and actual when the confessor is 'dipped' under the water) and rise from the
dead (again, symbolized and actual when we rise from being 'dipped' into the
baptismal water) with Christ.

   Our Lord, God and Savior Jesus Christ instituted this Holy Mystery of Baptism
Himself.  By His Baptism, by His Commanding the Apostles--the First Bishops, to
preach and baptize to all ends of the world in the name of the Father, the Son
and the Holy Spirit and by washing the Apostles on Holy Thursday (Tsalote
Hamus).  We therefore, at the hands of the Bishops and priests are washed
(Baptized) in the Water and Blood that poured from the Side of our Lord Jesus
Christ on Holy Friday.

   This is the mystery, the sacrament through which a person enters in the
Kingdom of Heaven (and by martyrdom).  I suggest that anyone interested can
research the Mystery and Sacrament of Baptism (and all of the Sacraments). 
These sacraments are vital and necessary for our salvation.

   Today, Ter/Touba 12th is the Commemmoration of Saint Mikael, the Archangel. 
May His prayer, blessing and intercession be with us all forever and ever
(Amen).

   Tomorrow (God's willing), we commemmorate the Feast of Cana of Galilee (Gospel
of St. John, Chapter 2).  It is a MINOR HOLYDAY or FEAST DAY of our LORD, GOD
and SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST.  It is Ter/Touba 13th.  May the Lord and God of All,
Jesus Christ have mercy upon us and cause our lives to be changed from
non-repentance to a life and path of repentance--intoxicating our lives with the
strong drink of fervent love and sacrifice, through true humility.

   Glory be to the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit--one God forever and ever
(Amen).

   Your brother in Christ our Lord,

   hailepetros




baalshemtau <baalshemtau@...> wrote:



























           Thank You Right Reverend Petros Markos, I agree with your wise words
and understanding of the Race touched by the Spiritual Sun, Jesus
Christ, Who said that He is the Light of the World. We hope that the
Work of the Ethiopian Church continues to guide the African Desporia
to the Light of the World.

We of the Jerusalem Sabbatarian Gnostic Church wish to ask how are
the Ethiopian Nation faring now that the Jihadist war is now being
waged against the Christian Ethiopian Nation.

In Christian Solidarity
Baalshemtau
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--- In EthiopianChristianity@yahoogroups.com, petros markos
<hailepetros@...> wrote:
>
> Dear James and Members of the Group,
>
> How are you? I hope that you are well. I am of Jamaican
heritage and descent. I am most of all, Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido
in my faith.
>
> The late Bob Marley was baptized on his death bed, Berhane
Selassie by an Ethiopian Orthodox Bishop. He is not a saint of the
Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church...not even so many of our late and
great archbishops, bishops, priests, deacons or kings within the last
400-500 years were dubbed saints.
>
> I have to correct the brother who said that 'Jamaicans believe
that Haile Selassie is the Lord'. This is not true of 99% of
Jamaica. Certain Rastafarians claim that the late King of Ethiopia,
Haile Selassie is Christ. Even they have no solid dogma that is
professed.
>
> Most Jamaicans are Roman Catholic, Anglican and other
denominations such as Seventh Day Adventists...not Rastafarians.
Most Jamaicans did not support the idea Haile Selassie's government
or even His Majesty's visit to Jamaica in 1966. Jamaican born Marcus
Garvey publicly insulted Ras Tafari (Haile Selassie I), calling His
Majesty a coward because he chose exile instead of fighting side by
side with the Ethiopian resistance in regards to the Italian invasion
(1936-41).
>
> My dream and hopefully future work is to see the misconceptions,
ignorances and stereotypes of Ethiopians (Africans) toward African
Caribbeans/African Americans. Likewise in all equality, to see the
total view of African Caribbeans/African Americans toward Ethiopians
(Africans) as the descents of Africa, as we are.
>
> So many of Western born Africans (the slave descents) desire to
know the history of Africa and Asia. We desire to know the Apostolic
traditions that our forefathers have inherited and preserved, but we
are somewhat blind and on the other hand, some of our brothers are
not warm-hearted and welcoming...maybe due to these impediments, such
as racism, stereotypes and of course--media.
>
> We should worship our Lord, God and Savior Jesus Christ and love
our brothers, as we love ourselves. This is the first step toward
Christian love, law and unity.
>
> Thanks for listening and may God Almighty have mercy upon us all.
>
> Your servant and brother in Christ,
>
> Hailepetros
>
>
>
> fikre solomon <sfikre@...> wrote:
> Hello james as u'r orthodox don't believe never and ever
in orthodox church in Ethiopia to put icon of bob there is nothing to
do with bob or Jamaicans but there is one thing that the Jamaicans
start to believe king hailesilase that is all don't mix things with
the icons.im strongly believe that it will not be never and ever.
> thanks .
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Dear group,

I'm happy to have found this group, and to read that others share their
enthousiasm on Ethiopian music as well. I cannot judge the honey wine,
but concerning music: Can anyone suggest interesting recordings of this
music, either ancient (LP) or recent (CD) or video recordings?
Lately, I heard a fabulous recording of an Ethiopian community in
Jerusalem, but I figure there must exist recordings made in Ethiopia
proper.

With many thanks for your suggestions!

Pieter


PS As a gregorian/plainchant amateur, I'm interested in the
correspondences of ethiopian with gregorian/plain chant -- can anyone
comment on that? ty :-)



--- In EthiopianChristianity@yahoogroups.com, mohamed sayi
<mohamedsayi@...> wrote:
>
>
>   Salaam all,
>
>   i enjoy Ethiopian music.
>   especially the melancholic melodies (the sad music) of the
Ethiopian  Orthodox Church. coupled with Ethiopian honey wine (Tej) the
Ethiopian  music takes me into a profound spiritual and philosophical
ecstacy!
>   does anybody share this experience...?

Thank You Right Reverend Petros Markos, I agree with your wise words
and understanding of the Race touched by the Spiritual Sun, Jesus
Christ, Who said that He is the Light of the World. We hope that the
Work of the Ethiopian Church continues to guide the African Desporia
to the Light of the World.

We of the Jerusalem Sabbatarian Gnostic Church wish to ask how are
the Ethiopian Nation faring now that the Jihadist war is now being
waged against the Christian Ethiopian Nation.

In Christian Solidarity
Baalshemtau
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--- In EthiopianChristianity@yahoogroups.com, petros markos
<hailepetros@...> wrote:
>
> Dear James and Members of the Group,
>
>   How are you?  I hope that you are well.  I am of Jamaican
heritage and descent.  I am most of all, Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido
in my faith.
>
>   The late Bob Marley was baptized on his death bed, Berhane
Selassie by an Ethiopian Orthodox Bishop.  He is not a saint of the
Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church...not even so many of our late and
great archbishops, bishops, priests, deacons or kings within the last
400-500 years were dubbed saints.
>
>   I have to correct the brother who said that 'Jamaicans believe
that Haile Selassie is the Lord'.  This is not true of 99% of
Jamaica.  Certain Rastafarians claim that the late King of Ethiopia,
Haile Selassie is Christ.  Even they have no solid dogma that is
professed.
>
>   Most Jamaicans are Roman Catholic, Anglican and other
denominations such as Seventh Day Adventists...not Rastafarians.
Most Jamaicans did not support the idea Haile Selassie's government
or even His Majesty's visit to Jamaica in 1966.  Jamaican born Marcus
Garvey publicly insulted Ras Tafari (Haile Selassie I), calling His
Majesty a coward because he chose exile instead of fighting side by
side with the Ethiopian resistance in regards to the Italian invasion
(1936-41).
>
>   My dream and hopefully future work is to see the misconceptions,
ignorances and stereotypes of Ethiopians (Africans) toward African
Caribbeans/African Americans.  Likewise in all equality, to see the
total view of African Caribbeans/African Americans toward Ethiopians
(Africans) as the descents of Africa, as we are.
>
>   So many of Western born Africans (the slave descents) desire to
know the history of Africa and Asia.  We desire to know the Apostolic
traditions that our forefathers have inherited and preserved, but we
are somewhat blind and on the other hand, some of our brothers are
not warm-hearted and welcoming...maybe due to these impediments, such
as racism, stereotypes and of course--media.
>
>   We should worship our Lord, God and Savior Jesus Christ and love
our brothers, as we love ourselves.  This is the first step toward
Christian love, law and unity.
>
>   Thanks for listening and may God Almighty have mercy upon us all.
>
>   Your servant and brother in Christ,
>
>   Hailepetros
>
>
>
> fikre solomon <sfikre@...> wrote:
>           Hello james as u'r orthodox don't believe never and ever
in orthodox church in Ethiopia to put icon of bob there is nothing to
do with bob or Jamaicans but there is one thing that the Jamaicans
start to believe king hailesilase that is all don't mix things with
the icons.im strongly believe that it will not be never and ever.
> thanks .
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Thanks for helping to clear these misconceptions up,

petros markos <hailepetros@...> wrote:                                 
Dear James and Members of the Group,

    How are you?  I hope that you are well.  I am of Jamaican heritage and
descent.  I am most of all, Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido in my faith.

    The late Bob Marley was baptized on his death bed, Berhane Selassie by an
Ethiopian Orthodox Bishop.  He is not a saint of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido
Church...not even so many of our late and great archbishops, bishops, priests,
deacons or kings within the last 400-500 years were dubbed saints.

    I have to correct the brother who said that 'Jamaicans believe that Haile
Selassie is the Lord'.  This is not true of 99% of Jamaica.  Certain
Rastafarians claim that the late King of Ethiopia, Haile Selassie is Christ. 
Even they have no solid dogma that is professed.

    Most Jamaicans are Roman Catholic, Anglican and other denominations such as
Seventh Day Adventists...not Rastafarians.  Most Jamaicans did not support the
idea Haile Selassie's government or even His Majesty's visit to Jamaica in 1966.
Jamaican born Marcus Garvey publicly insulted Ras Tafari (Haile Selassie I),
calling His Majesty a coward because he chose exile instead of fighting side by
side with the Ethiopian resistance in regards to the Italian invasion (1936-41).

    My dream and hopefully future work is to see the misconceptions, ignorances
and stereotypes of Ethiopians (Africans) toward African Caribbeans/African
Americans.  Likewise in all equality, to see the total view of African
Caribbeans/African Americans toward Ethiopians (Africans) as the descents of
Africa, as we are.

    So many of Western born Africans (the slave descents) desire to know the
history of Africa and Asia.  We desire to know the Apostolic traditions that our
forefathers have inherited and preserved, but we are somewhat blind and on the
other hand, some of our brothers are not warm-hearted and welcoming...maybe due
to these impediments, such as racism, stereotypes and of course--media.

    We should worship our Lord, God and Savior Jesus Christ and love our
brothers, as we love ourselves.  This is the first step toward Christian love,
law and unity.

    Thanks for listening and may God Almighty have mercy upon us all.

    Your servant and brother in Christ,

    Hailepetros



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            Hello james as u'r orthodox don't believe never and ever in orthodox
church in Ethiopia to put icon of bob there is nothing to do with bob or
Jamaicans but there is one thing that the Jamaicans start to believe king
hailesilase that is all don't mix things with the icons.im strongly believe that
it will not be never and ever.
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Dear James and Members of the Group,

   How are you?  I hope that you are well.  I am of Jamaican heritage and
descent.  I am most of all, Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido in my faith.

   The late Bob Marley was baptized on his death bed, Berhane Selassie by an
Ethiopian Orthodox Bishop.  He is not a saint of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido
Church...not even so many of our late and great archbishops, bishops, priests,
deacons or kings within the last 400-500 years were dubbed saints.

   I have to correct the brother who said that 'Jamaicans believe that Haile
Selassie is the Lord'.  This is not true of 99% of Jamaica.  Certain
Rastafarians claim that the late King of Ethiopia, Haile Selassie is Christ. 
Even they have no solid dogma that is professed.

   Most Jamaicans are Roman Catholic, Anglican and other denominations such as
Seventh Day Adventists...not Rastafarians.  Most Jamaicans did not support the
idea Haile Selassie's government or even His Majesty's visit to Jamaica in 1966.
Jamaican born Marcus Garvey publicly insulted Ras Tafari (Haile Selassie I),
calling His Majesty a coward because he chose exile instead of fighting side by
side with the Ethiopian resistance in regards to the Italian invasion (1936-41).

   My dream and hopefully future work is to see the misconceptions, ignorances
and stereotypes of Ethiopians (Africans) toward African Caribbeans/African
Americans.  Likewise in all equality, to see the total view of African
Caribbeans/African Americans toward Ethiopians (Africans) as the descents of
Africa, as we are.

   So many of Western born Africans (the slave descents) desire to know the
history of Africa and Asia.  We desire to know the Apostolic traditions that our
forefathers have inherited and preserved, but we are somewhat blind and on the
other hand, some of our brothers are not warm-hearted and welcoming...maybe due
to these impediments, such as racism, stereotypes and of course--media.

   We should worship our Lord, God and Savior Jesus Christ and love our brothers,
as we love ourselves.  This is the first step toward Christian love, law and
unity.

   Thanks for listening and may God Almighty have mercy upon us all.

   Your servant and brother in Christ,

   Hailepetros



fikre solomon <sfikre@...> wrote:
           Hello james as u'r orthodox don't believe never and ever in orthodox
church in Ethiopia to put icon of bob there is nothing to do with bob or
Jamaicans but there is one thing that the Jamaicans start to believe king
hailesilase that is all don't mix things with the icons.im strongly believe that
it will not be never and ever.
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Hello james as u'r orthodox don't believe never and ever in orthodox church in
Ethiopia to put icon of bob there is nothing to do with bob or Jamaicans but
there is one thing that the Jamaicans start to believe king hailesilase that is
all don't mix things with the icons.im strongly believe that  it will not be
never and ever.
thanks .



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Dear James,
Robert Nesta Marley was baptized as Berhane Selassie
and became a full member of the Ethiopian Orthodox
Church. But just because he was a celebrity, it
doesn't mean that he will be a saint or is on his way
to being one. So there are no Ethiopian Orthodox icons
of Bob Marley and I highly doubt that there will ever
be any.
Thanks for your interest!
Yared

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> am Orthodox and a
> member of an OCA parish. Could any one tell me the
> Church's view of Bob
> Marley, who did convert to Orthodoxy? Is it possible
> to have an icon of
> him, is he "on track" for sainthood" etc...?
> thanks
> James
>
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member of an OCA parish. Could any one tell me the Church's view of Bob
Marley, who did convert to Orthodoxy? Is it possible to have an icon of
him, is he "on track" for sainthood" etc...?
thanks
James

In the name of God the Word and Wise Maker of the Universe, Amen...

   Dear EthiopianChristianity--Group Members:

   How are you?  I hope that all is well in the name of God.  I am happy to see
the activity of the Group, may we post in the name of the Lord, through His
Mercy.

   "...We saw in the last chapter that, because death and corruption were gaining
ever firmer hold on them, the human race was in process of destruction. Man, who
was created in God's image and in his possession of reason reflected the very
Word Himself, was disappearing, and the work of God was being undone. The law of
death, which followed from the Transgression, prevailed upon us, and from it
there was no escape. The thing that was happening was in truth both monstrous
and unfitting. It would, of course, have been unthinkable that God should go
back upon His word and that man, having transgressed, should not die; but it was
equally monstrous that beings which once had shared the nature of the Word
should perish and turn back again into non-existence through corruption. It was
unworthy of the goodness of God that creatures made by Him should be brought to
nothing through the deceit wrought upon man by the devil; and it was supremely
unfitting that the work of God in mankind should
  disappear, either through their own negligence or through the deceit of evil
spirits. As, then, the creatures whom He had created reasonable, like the Word,
were in fact perishing, and such noble works were on the road to ruin, what then
was God, being Good, to do? Was He to let corruption and death have their way
with them? In that case, what was the use of having made them in the beginning?
Surely it would have been better never to have been created at all than, having
been created, to be neglected and perish; and, besides that, such indifference
to the ruin of His own work before His very eyes would argue not goodness in God
but limitation, and that far more than if He had never created men at all. It
was impossible, therefore, that God should leave man to be carried off by
corruption, because it would be unfitting and unworthy of Himself."

   Saint Athanasius, the 20th Pope and Patriarch of the See of Saint Mark

   Peace be with you all...

   hailepetros



   mohamed sayi <mohamedsayi@...> wrote:

           Bhikkhus,


   All  is by nature subject to birth... All is by nature subject to ageing...
   All is by nature subject to decay & sickness... All is by nature subject to 
death... All is by nature subject to trouble... All is by nature subject to 
corruption... All by nature is subject to denial... All is by nature subject to 
destruction... All is by nature subject to vanishing... All is by nature 
subject to emergence... All is by nature subject to ceasing... All by nature is 
subject to suffering, ageing, hurting, decay, twinkling, sickness, trouble, 
passing, infection, ruin, disease, corruption, destruction, lacking, agony, 
affliction, torment, weeping, vanishing, grieving, fading, perishing, changing, 
separation, pain, loss, anguish, death and darkness…




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My dear friend,


   thanks for sharing this wonderful vision that you saw. sometimes some  of us
experience such visions in our dreams or in other ways. in most  cases such
visions are the reactions of our spiritual encounters in  life but in rare cases
we
   encounter spiritual beings that inform us specific missions in life.

   my friend, i would advice you to follow your spiritual path in seeking the
truth
   as revealed to you in that dream and in the subsequent thoughts and studies.
   i am impressed with all the scriptures you read and sought guidance from.

   i cannot give you exactly what the dream meant and i don't know the  source of
the river of life but i will encourage you to seek and study  the reality and
the meanings therein. and i will be blessed to learn  from you and to discuss
with you in the days to come.

   sincerely,

   moha


emberskytwilight <emberskytwilight@...> wrote:               About ten
years ago I prayed to the gods to save all the little
   ones from hell.  I totally left my body and rose apon a beam of
   light.  There before me was a bearded man in a black cloak.  He
   overshadowed me, but then the light shone right through him.  He
   looked like a Jewish or Orthodox rabbi.  Then he disapeared.  There
   was then before me a radiant being in the sun.  It appeared as
   either a man or woman in white robes, shrouded in flames.  Then I
   returned to my body.  I left my body again to see a woman dressed in
   blue cloths like Mary, then a girl who appeared to be an angel.
   Less than one week later I had another vision of a Dragon.  It was a
   colorful dragon.  My father said I was a gifted sorcerer.  He told
   me the prophecies of Oaxaca.  Then my pastor at church told me I was
   a snake in the grass, and the work of the devil.  I spent the next
   five years cursing the church and god.  I kept having visions and
   now I hear spirits.  The spirits have been diagnosed as
   schizophrenia.  The spirits have told me the names of things.  I
   began researching on the net the things the spirits told me.  They
   proved to be christian pilgramige sites and the names of saints.  I
   found out that middle eastern religions had radiant beings on beams
   of light in the sun.  The beam of light was shaped like a pyramid.
   I was brought back to Egypt and Babylon.  The spirits who talked to
   me told me to go on a pilgamige to the source of the river of life.
   I am hoping to do this pilgramige, but I don't know where to begin,
   to find the true path, to the sorce of river of life.  I am trying
   to get a hold of some real mystics or prophets for guidance.  Some
   people told me what I saw was Yeshua.  I keep running into
   freemasonry pages and books.  I have found mason's reprints of rare
   books.  I keep running into books on Golden Dawn.  Do Golden Dawn
   have authentic works on Solomon's sorcery?  Other works I have been
   studying are the old testament and the dead sea scrolls. I have read
   in the last year Nag Hammadi Library, The Kebra Nagast, The Book of
   Enoch the Prophet, The Zend Avesta, The Gathas of Zarathushtra, the
   Bhagavad-Gita, The Essential Kabbalah, The Way of a Pilgrim, The
   Rastafari Ible, Mahayana Buddhism, The Great Libereation, The
   Dhammapada, The Yoga Sutras, the Mahabharata, Thw Upanisahds, The
   Vedas, The Ramayana, Vendanta, Rumi, Koran, The Talmud, Tao Te
   Ching, and others.  Anyone want to give me advice on what the
   visions mean?  Anyone know a group or someone who could prepare me
   for a pilgrimage to the source of the river of life?








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   All  is by nature subject to birth... All is by nature subject to ageing...
   All is by nature subject to decay & sickness... All is by nature subject to 
death... All is by nature subject to trouble... All is by nature subject to 
corruption... All by nature is subject to denial... All is by nature subject to 
destruction... All is by nature subject to vanishing... All is by nature 
subject to emergence... All is by nature subject to ceasing... All by nature is 
subject to suffering, ageing, hurting, decay, twinkling, sickness, trouble, 
passing, infection, ruin, disease, corruption, destruction, lacking, agony, 
affliction, torment, weeping, vanishing, grieving, fading, perishing, changing, 
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Greetings, what a very divine experience...as you know by now it isn't inside of
books.....and also theres is work to be done hear on this planet....you call
earth....many are being attuned with the light and enhanced in order to do the
healing work that humanity and the earth needs so right now................then
ALL can move spirit-ward.......back into the Presence of the ALL from whence we
ALL came.....in order to have these visions your body physical and soul has been
raised to a higher vibration........You at this point need to study some
alchemic studies....the great work...then you can work directly with the spirit
of light......

   My name is: Oba

   Director of "The Ma'at Temple of Illuminating The African Mind"

   Love and Light...Light....Light


emberskytwilight <emberskytwilight@...> wrote:
        About ten years ago I prayed to the gods to save all the little
ones from hell.  I totally left my body and rose apon a beam of
light.  There before me was a bearded man in a black cloak.  He
overshadowed me, but then the light shone right through him.  He
looked like a Jewish or Orthodox rabbi.  Then he disapeared.  There
was then before me a radiant being in the sun.  It appeared as
either a man or woman in white robes, shrouded in flames.  Then I
returned to my body.  I left my body again to see a woman dressed in
blue cloths like Mary, then a girl who appeared to be an angel.
Less than one week later I had another vision of a Dragon.  It was a
colorful dragon.  My father said I was a gifted sorcerer.  He told
me the prophecies of Oaxaca.  Then my pastor at church told me I was
a snake in the grass, and the work of the devil.  I spent the next
five years cursing the church and god.  I kept having visions and
now I hear spirits.  The spirits have been diagnosed as
schizophrenia.  The spirits have told me the names of things.  I
began researching on the net the things the spirits told me.  They
proved to be christian pilgramige sites and the names of saints.  I
found out that middle eastern religions had radiant beings on beams
of light in the sun.  The beam of light was shaped like a pyramid.
I was brought back to Egypt and Babylon.  The spirits who talked to
me told me to go on a pilgamige to the source of the river of life.
I am hoping to do this pilgramige, but I don't know where to begin,
to find the true path, to the sorce of river of life.  I am trying
to get a hold of some real mystics or prophets for guidance.  Some
people told me what I saw was Yeshua.  I keep running into
freemasonry pages and books.  I have found mason's reprints of rare
books.  I keep running into books on Golden Dawn.  Do Golden Dawn
have authentic works on Solomon's sorcery?  Other works I have been
studying are the old testament and the dead sea scrolls. I have read
in the last year Nag Hammadi Library, The Kebra Nagast, The Book of
Enoch the Prophet, The Zend Avesta, The Gathas of Zarathushtra, the
Bhagavad-Gita, The Essential Kabbalah, The Way of a Pilgrim, The
Rastafari Ible, Mahayana Buddhism, The Great Libereation, The
Dhammapada, The Yoga Sutras, the Mahabharata, Thw Upanisahds, The
Vedas, The Ramayana, Vendanta, Rumi, Koran, The Talmud, Tao Te
Ching, and others.  Anyone want to give me advice on what the
visions mean?  Anyone know a group or someone who could prepare me
for a pilgrimage to the source of the river of life?








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Dear Emberskytwilight,

   How are you?  Thank you for contacting the Group and for writing about such an
experience that is unique and prophetic for your life and those surrounding you.

   Could you please give me a little time to share something with you (through
the Group or private, the preference is your choice)?  I will write within the
next few days, if that is acceptable.

   Thank you again and your enlightenment will be even more radiant through the
Architect of the Universe and All the Worlds--I am sure.

   Yours truly,

   hailepetros

emberskytwilight <emberskytwilight@...> wrote:
        About ten years ago I prayed to the gods to save all the little
ones from hell.  I totally left my body and rose apon a beam of
light.  There before me was a bearded man in a black cloak.  He
overshadowed me, but then the light shone right through him.  He
looked like a Jewish or Orthodox rabbi.  Then he disapeared.  There
was then before me a radiant being in the sun.  It appeared as
either a man or woman in white robes, shrouded in flames.  Then I
returned to my body.  I left my body again to see a woman dressed in
blue cloths like Mary, then a girl who appeared to be an angel.
Less than one week later I had another vision of a Dragon.  It was a
colorful dragon.  My father said I was a gifted sorcerer.  He told
me the prophecies of Oaxaca.  Then my pastor at church told me I was
a snake in the grass, and the work of the devil.  I spent the next
five years cursing the church and god.  I kept having visions and
now I hear spirits.  The spirits have been diagnosed as
schizophrenia.  The spirits have told me the names of things.  I
began researching on the net the things the spirits told me.  They
proved to be christian pilgramige sites and the names of saints.  I
found out that middle eastern religions had radiant beings on beams
of light in the sun.  The beam of light was shaped like a pyramid.
I was brought back to Egypt and Babylon.  The spirits who talked to
me told me to go on a pilgamige to the source of the river of life.
I am hoping to do this pilgramige, but I don't know where to begin,
to find the true path, to the sorce of river of life.  I am trying
to get a hold of some real mystics or prophets for guidance.  Some
people told me what I saw was Yeshua.  I keep running into
freemasonry pages and books.  I have found mason's reprints of rare
books.  I keep running into books on Golden Dawn.  Do Golden Dawn
have authentic works on Solomon's sorcery?  Other works I have been
studying are the old testament and the dead sea scrolls. I have read
in the last year Nag Hammadi Library, The Kebra Nagast, The Book of
Enoch the Prophet, The Zend Avesta, The Gathas of Zarathushtra, the
Bhagavad-Gita, The Essential Kabbalah, The Way of a Pilgrim, The
Rastafari Ible, Mahayana Buddhism, The Great Libereation, The
Dhammapada, The Yoga Sutras, the Mahabharata, Thw Upanisahds, The
Vedas, The Ramayana, Vendanta, Rumi, Koran, The Talmud, Tao Te
Ching, and others.  Anyone want to give me advice on what the
visions mean?  Anyone know a group or someone who could prepare me
for a pilgrimage to the source of the river of life?








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About ten years ago I prayed to the gods to save all the little
ones from hell.  I totally left my body and rose apon a beam of
light.  There before me was a bearded man in a black cloak.  He
overshadowed me, but then the light shone right through him.  He
looked like a Jewish or Orthodox rabbi.  Then he disapeared.  There
was then before me a radiant being in the sun.  It appeared as
either a man or woman in white robes, shrouded in flames.  Then I
returned to my body.  I left my body again to see a woman dressed in
blue cloths like Mary, then a girl who appeared to be an angel.
Less than one week later I had another vision of a Dragon.  It was a
colorful dragon.  My father said I was a gifted sorcerer.  He told
me the prophecies of Oaxaca.  Then my pastor at church told me I was
a snake in the grass, and the work of the devil.  I spent the next
five years cursing the church and god.  I kept having visions and
now I hear spirits.  The spirits have been diagnosed as
schizophrenia.  The spirits have told me the names of things.  I
began researching on the net the things the spirits told me.  They
proved to be christian pilgramige sites and the names of saints.  I
found out that middle eastern religions had radiant beings on beams
of light in the sun.  The beam of light was shaped like a pyramid.
I was brought back to Egypt and Babylon.  The spirits who talked to
me told me to go on a pilgamige to the source of the river of life.
I am hoping to do this pilgramige, but I don't know where to begin,
to find the true path, to the sorce of river of life.  I am trying
to get a hold of some real mystics or prophets for guidance.  Some
people told me what I saw was Yeshua.  I keep running into
freemasonry pages and books.  I have found mason's reprints of rare
books.  I keep running into books on Golden Dawn.  Do Golden Dawn
have authentic works on Solomon's sorcery?  Other works I have been
studying are the old testament and the dead sea scrolls. I have read
in the last year Nag Hammadi Library, The Kebra Nagast, The Book of
Enoch the Prophet, The Zend Avesta, The Gathas of Zarathushtra, the
Bhagavad-Gita, The Essential Kabbalah, The Way of a Pilgrim, The
Rastafari Ible, Mahayana Buddhism, The Great Libereation, The
Dhammapada, The Yoga Sutras, the Mahabharata, Thw Upanisahds, The
Vedas, The Ramayana, Vendanta, Rumi, Koran, The Talmud, Tao Te
Ching, and others.  Anyone want to give me advice on what the
visions mean?  Anyone know a group or someone who could prepare me
for a pilgrimage to the source of the river of life?

Dear Petros,


   thanks for your comments, i appreciated it.

   i have enjoyed and collected various religious music from all over the world.

   of all that religious music that i enjoyed three stand out:

   the Hindu Vedanta spiritual music, the Tibetan Budhist music and the 
Ethiopian  Orthodox music. there is also great similarity between  the Ethiopian
Orthodox music and the Tibetan Budhist music.

   Petros, i think the Ethiopian Orthodox melancholic music, especially  the
"nasaha" repentence music is sad for a reason: to take us closer to  God through
renunciation and repentence...


   Peace,




petros markos <hailepetros@...> wrote:          Bismallah!

     Selam Mr. Mohamed Sayi,

    How are you?  Thank you for your comment about the  Divinely-inspired and
unique ecclesiastical music of the Ethiopian  Orthodox Tewahido Church, composed
by Saint Yared of Axum...

     The 'sad' music that you may be referring to is the Ge'ez  (sounds like
'giz') mode of the chant.  There are three modes of  St. Yared's chants or
hymns: Ge'ez, I'zil and A'ra'rai.  They are  symbolic theologically and they
have notations--Ge'ez letters and  numbers.  This music was composed by Saint
Yared himself in the  early to mid Sixth Century.

     Although tej is good for health in moderation, it does not mix  with
ingesting the true and deepest meaning of Ethiopia's Orthodox  Tewahido Church
hymnology.  I am sure that you will and may enjoy  the hymns and tej
separately...

     I even guarantee that St. Yared's hymns will give you a better  'high'--if I
may say so, than any strong drink or other material  substance.

     Please continue to listen to St. Yared's Hymns (the Music and  Chant of the
Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church).  I appreciate  your comments on the behalf
of all Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church  members and you are in my prayers.

     The grace of the Most Benevolent God be with you and your loved ones...

     Sincerely,

     hailepetros



     mohamed sayi <mohamedsayi@...> wrote:

     Salaam all,

     i enjoy Ethiopian music.

     especially the melancholic melodies (the sad music) of the  Ethiopian 
Orthodox Church. coupled with Ethiopian honey wine  (Tej) the Ethiopian  music
takes me into a profound spiritual and  philosophical ecstacy!


     does anybody share this experience...?





   Yared Haile Selassie <yhaile_selassie@...> wrote:
     Selam there,
     Well this theory isn't very new. It's Graham Hancock
     who said that the Tabot (Ark of the covenant) could
     have come from a Jewish temple in Elephantine (Egypt)
     to Ethiopia. If you expand the whole story you could
     also say that the Ethiopian Kings have their origin in
     Egypt. I personally don't know how accurate this
     theory is. I believe that the Solomonic dynasty of
     Ethiopia stems from King Solomon himself.

     As for the Falashas (Bete Israel): The Bete Israel is
     a religious but not an ethnic group. There are Qemant,
     Amhara, Tigraway, Agew, etc. Bete Israelis.

     They had mighty provincial kings and weren't such a
     minority as they are today. They were very strong and
     influencial in the middle ages (in Northwestern
     Ethiopia)...


      --- mohamed sayi <mohamedsayi@...> schrieb:
     > salaam,
     >
     > i lived in Ethiopia for nine years, i learned the
     > language and the culture and even got an Ethiopian
     > wife and two children who are half Ethiopian. My
     > knowldge about the Ethipian history and kings is not
     > indepth but i know that Flashas did not have kings
     > of their own who ruled in Ethiopia. The Flasha
     > community have always been a minority in that land
     > and kings would come from the nothern semitic
     > peoples of Ethiopia, like the Amharas and the
     > Tigres.
     >
     > Ethiopia is a great and beautiful country and the
     > culture of the people is so rich and so respectful,
     > especially i like the Ethiopian honey wine which
     > they call "Taj" which is a great drink.
     >
     > i think it would be advisable for you to do more
     > research in these things before you conclude the
     > matter.
     >
     > Moha
     >
     > Amon Baalshem <baalshemtau@...> wrote:
     >
     > > Dear Beloved Gentlemen,
     > >
     > > My name is Amon. I am doing a thesis for my
     > Theology
     > > Doctorate on the Origins of the Ethiopian Kings.
     > > Apart
     > > from the account in the Kebra Negast, I and others
     > > are
     > > proposing a theory that the Solomonic line of the
     > > Ethiopian Kings have their origins among the Jews
     > > that
     > > live in Egypt after the fall of Jerusalem in
     > 592bc.
     > > When a remnant of the jews fled to Egypt. Among
     > them
     > > was the Prophet Jeremiah, Barach his Secretary,
     > The
     > > Daughters of King Zedekiah and Ebedmelech the
     > > Ethiopian who was an Eunuch and other jews. A
     > > Falasha
     > > Priest told me that these and other jews continued
     > > to
     > > flee south from a number of wars in Egypt into the
     > > Sudan and later into Ethiopia where they became
     > > Ethiopian jews. The theory is that the offspring
     > of
     > > the daughters of King Zedekiah brought the Royal
     > > bloodline into Ethiopia! For the Falasha Priest
     > said
     > > that the Jews in Egypt were the Ancestors of the
     > > Falashas and their Kings in Ethiopia.
     > >
     > > Jeremiah the prophet later took one of the
     > daughters
     > > of King Zedekiah to Ireland and she brought the
     > > Royal
     > > bloodline to the Kings of Ireland and then to the
     > > Scots... This is documented in the Genealogy of
     > > their
     > > Kings. But She departed from among the Jews in
     > Egypt
     > > who became the Ancestors of the Falashas. Thus the
     > > grounds of our theory. the biblical accounts are
     > in
     > > Jeremiah chapters 40-45.
     > >
     > > Is there anyone who has any information that can
     > > support our theory?
     > >
     > > peace within
     > > Amon
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Peter,


   there is something called philosophical drinking or yoga drinking.
   yoga drinking requires deep melanchlic/sad music, a quiet place,  preferably
near a lake or a mountain. meditation with nostalgic  memories while you sipping
your drink and watching one spot far  away!

   thanks again my friend,

Yared Haile Selassie <yhaile_selassie@...> wrote:          Selam brother
Mohamed,
   Well, yes, I've made similar experiences... but
   without the Honey Wine (Tej) ;)

   >
   >   Salaam all,
   >
   >   i enjoy Ethiopian music.
   >
   >   especially the melancholic melodies (the sad
   > music) of the Ethiopian  Orthodox Church. coupled
   > with Ethiopian honey wine (Tej) the Ethiopian  music
   > takes me into a profound spiritual and philosophical
   > ecstacy!
   >
   >
   >   does anybody share this experience...?
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > Yared Haile Selassie <yhaile_selassie@...>
   > wrote:
   >   Selam there,
   >   Well this theory isn't very new. It's Graham
   > Hancock
   >   who said that the Tabot (Ark of the covenant)
   > could
   >   have come from a Jewish temple in Elephantine
   > (Egypt)
   >   to Ethiopia. If you expand the whole story you
   > could
   >   also say that the Ethiopian Kings have their
   > origin in
   >   Egypt. I personally don't know how accurate this
   >   theory is. I believe that the Solomonic dynasty of
   >   Ethiopia stems from King Solomon himself.
   >
   >   As for the Falashas (Bete Israel): The Bete Israel
   > is
   >   a religious but not an ethnic group. There are
   > Qemant,
   >   Amhara, Tigraway, Agew, etc. Bete Israelis.
   >
   >   They had mighty provincial kings and weren't such
   > a
   >   minority as they are today. They were very strong
   > and
   >   influencial in the middle ages (in Northwestern
   >   Ethiopia)...
   >
   >
   >    --- mohamed sayi <mohamedsayi@...> schrieb:
   >
   >   > salaam,
   >   >
   >   > i lived in Ethiopia for nine years, i learned
   > the
   >   > language and the culture and even got an
   > Ethiopian
   >   > wife and two children who are half Ethiopian. My
   >   > knowldge about the Ethipian history and kings is
   > not
   >   > indepth but i know that Flashas did not have
   > kings
   >   > of their own who ruled in Ethiopia. The Flasha
   >   > community have always been a minority in that
   > land
   >   > and kings would come from the nothern semitic
   >   > peoples of Ethiopia, like the Amharas and the
   >   > Tigres.
   >   >
   >   > Ethiopia is a great and beautiful country and
   > the
   >   > culture of the people is so rich and so
   > respectful,
   >   > especially i like the Ethiopian honey wine which
   >   > they call "Taj" which is a great drink.
   >   >
   >   > i think it would be advisable for you to do more
   >   > research in these things before you conclude the
   >   > matter.
   >   >
   >   > Moha
   >   >
   >   > Amon Baalshem <baalshemtau@...> wrote:
   >   >
   >   > > Dear Beloved Gentlemen,
   >   > >
   >   > > My name is Amon. I am doing a thesis for my
   >   > Theology
   >   > > Doctorate on the Origins of the Ethiopian
   > Kings.
   >   > > Apart
   >   > > from the account in the Kebra Negast, I and
   > others
   >   > > are
   >   > > proposing a theory that the Solomonic line of
   > the
   >   > > Ethiopian Kings have their origins among the
   > Jews
   >   > > that
   >   > > live in Egypt after the fall of Jerusalem in
   >   > 592bc.
   >   > > When a remnant of the jews fled to Egypt.
   > Among
   >   > them
   >   > > was the Prophet Jeremiah, Barach his
   > Secretary,
   >   > The
   >   > > Daughters of King Zedekiah and Ebedmelech the
   >   > > Ethiopian who was an Eunuch and other jews. A
   >   > > Falasha
   >   > > Priest told me that these and other jews
   > continued
   >   > > to
   >   > > flee south from a number of wars in Egypt into
   > the
   >   > > Sudan and later into Ethiopia where they
   > became
   >   > > Ethiopian jews. The theory is that the
   > offspring
   >   > of
   >   > > the daughters of King Zedekiah brought the
   > Royal
   >   > > bloodline into Ethiopia! For the Falasha
   > Priest
   >   > said
   >   > > that the Jews in Egypt were the Ancestors of
   > the
   >   > > Falashas and their Kings in Ethiopia.
   >   > >
   >   > > Jeremiah the prophet later took one of the
   >   > daughters
   >   > > of King Zedekiah to Ireland and she brought
   > the
   >   > > Royal
   >   > > bloodline to the Kings of Ireland and then to
   > the
   >   > > Scots... This is documented in the Genealogy
   > of
   >   > > their
   >   > > Kings. But She departed from among the Jews in
   >   > Egypt
   >   > > who became the Ancestors of the Falashas. Thus
   > the
   >   > > grounds of our theory. the biblical accounts
   > are
   >   > in
   >   > > Jeremiah chapters 40-45.
   >   > >
   >   > > Is there anyone who has any information that
   > can
   >   > > support our theory?
   >   > >
   >   > > peace within
   >   > > Amon
   >   > >
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Selam Jabriel;

I do not know for sure what the moderator's reasons were, but  I can assure
you that your immediate lineage had anything to do with it.  The moderator does
not know my heritage and I have somehow been invited into  this group.
If you have anything to contribute to this group, please do  so. As you see,
the number contributors is rather small.

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Bismallah!

   Selam Mr. Mohamed Sayi,

   How are you?  Thank you for your comment about the Divinely-inspired and
unique ecclesiastical music of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church, composed
by Saint Yared of Axum...

   The 'sad' music that you may be referring to is the Ge'ez (sounds like 'giz')
mode of the chant.  There are three modes of St. Yared's chants or hymns: Ge'ez,
I'zil and A'ra'rai.  They are symbolic theologically and they have
notations--Ge'ez letters and numbers.  This music was composed by Saint Yared
himself in the early to mid Sixth Century.

   Although tej is good for health in moderation, it does not mix with ingesting
the true and deepest meaning of Ethiopia's Orthodox Tewahido Church hymnology. 
I am sure that you will and may enjoy the hymns and tej separately...

   I even guarantee that St. Yared's hymns will give you a better 'high'--if I
may say so, than any strong drink or other material substance.

   Please continue to listen to St. Yared's Hymns (the Music and Chant of the
Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church).  I appreciate your comments on the behalf
of all Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church members and you are in my prayers.

   The grace of the Most Benevolent God be with you and your loved ones...

   Sincerely,

   hailepetros



   mohamed sayi <mohamedsayi@...> wrote:

   Salaam all,

   i enjoy Ethiopian music.

   especially the melancholic melodies (the sad music) of the Ethiopian  Orthodox
Church. coupled with Ethiopian honey wine (Tej) the Ethiopian  music takes me
into a profound spiritual and philosophical ecstacy!


   does anybody share this experience...?





Yared Haile Selassie <yhaile_selassie@...> wrote:
   Selam there,
   Well this theory isn't very new. It's Graham Hancock
   who said that the Tabot (Ark of the covenant) could
   have come from a Jewish temple in Elephantine (Egypt)
   to Ethiopia. If you expand the whole story you could
   also say that the Ethiopian Kings have their origin in
   Egypt. I personally don't know how accurate this
   theory is. I believe that the Solomonic dynasty of
   Ethiopia stems from King Solomon himself.

   As for the Falashas (Bete Israel): The Bete Israel is
   a religious but not an ethnic group. There are Qemant,
   Amhara, Tigraway, Agew, etc. Bete Israelis.

   They had mighty provincial kings and weren't such a
   minority as they are today. They were very strong and
   influencial in the middle ages (in Northwestern
   Ethiopia)...


    --- mohamed sayi <mohamedsayi@...> schrieb:
   > salaam,
   >
   > i lived in Ethiopia for nine years, i learned the
   > language and the culture and even got an Ethiopian
   > wife and two children who are half Ethiopian. My
   > knowldge about the Ethipian history and kings is not
   > indepth but i know that Flashas did not have kings
   > of their own who ruled in Ethiopia. The Flasha
   > community have always been a minority in that land
   > and kings would come from the nothern semitic
   > peoples of Ethiopia, like the Amharas and the
   > Tigres.
   >
   > Ethiopia is a great and beautiful country and the
   > culture of the people is so rich and so respectful,
   > especially i like the Ethiopian honey wine which
   > they call "Taj" which is a great drink.
   >
   > i think it would be advisable for you to do more
   > research in these things before you conclude the
   > matter.
   >
   > Moha
   >
   > Amon Baalshem <baalshemtau@...> wrote:
   >
   > > Dear Beloved Gentlemen,
   > >
   > > My name is Amon. I am doing a thesis for my
   > Theology
   > > Doctorate on the Origins of the Ethiopian Kings.
   > > Apart
   > > from the account in the Kebra Negast, I and others
   > > are
   > > proposing a theory that the Solomonic line of the
   > > Ethiopian Kings have their origins among the Jews
   > > that
   > > live in Egypt after the fall of Jerusalem in
   > 592bc.
   > > When a remnant of the jews fled to Egypt. Among
   > them
   > > was the Prophet Jeremiah, Barach his Secretary,
   > The
   > > Daughters of King Zedekiah and Ebedmelech the
   > > Ethiopian who was an Eunuch and other jews. A
   > > Falasha
   > > Priest told me that these and other jews continued
   > > to
   > > flee south from a number of wars in Egypt into the
   > > Sudan and later into Ethiopia where they became
   > > Ethiopian jews. The theory is that the offspring
   > of
   > > the daughters of King Zedekiah brought the Royal
   > > bloodline into Ethiopia! For the Falasha Priest
   > said
   > > that the Jews in Egypt were the Ancestors of the
   > > Falashas and their Kings in Ethiopia.
   > >
   > > Jeremiah the prophet later took one of the
   > daughters
   > > of King Zedekiah to Ireland and she brought the
   > > Royal
   > > bloodline to the Kings of Ireland and then to the
   > > Scots... This is documented in the Genealogy of
   > > their
   > > Kings. But She departed from among the Jews in
   > Egypt
   > > who became the Ancestors of the Falashas. Thus the
   > > grounds of our theory. the biblical accounts are
   > in
   > > Jeremiah chapters 40-45.
   > >
   > > Is there anyone who has any information that can
   > > support our theory?
   > >
   > > peace within
   > > Amon
   > >
   > >
   > >
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