Does anyone here know where I can locate more information about two celebrations, Vertmass and Eldmass. What little I did find was in a book by Robin Skelton...
Neither Eldmas nor Vertmass seems to be recognised in OED. Logically, Vertmass is a festival of greenery (vert is used primarily of forest "browse" for...
These are the best descriptions I can find, I do like the pagan iseal of celebrating - 'everything' - any old excuse! Vertmass 31 March - 1 April 'Vertmass'...
Sounds like the site I met up with. Trouble is, it cites no references. -K ... From: "Bogie Mol" <bogiemol@...> To: <English-Folklore@yahoogroups.com> ...
... Oh lor! Not more of this stuff! I've had enough. Bye bye list Jenny ... \\\ Click on the "Give Free Food" button at The Hunger Site ...
JE Howard
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... pagan view of the day beginning and ending at noon is revealed by the custom of stating that nobody can make anybody else an 'April Fool' after noon of 1...
Or is it just a bit of wishful neo-pagen thinking based on no evidence whatsoever? [Keith Leech] One suspects the latter:-) Pity we lost Jenny with her useful...
<< Pity we lost Jenny with her useful insights into Christianity in our traditions due to all this neopagan twod.>> I would have thought on a list this quiet...
Yes, its always a shame when someone leaves a list - especially as a result of discussion. At the end of the day though, I don't see how we can discuss English...
Unless I'm mistaken, I think it had more to do with the "Neo" than the "Pagan". Nevertheless it seems, to me, rather juvenile that somebody would leave the...
... That is indeed a great shame. On the other hand, neopagan twod notions of folklore have been circulating for decades, so we are going to have to deal with...
Agreed. We need to include all aspects of what shapes us, but lets be honest there is in actuality very little pre Christian out there except wishful thinking....
... "Pagan". Yes, I am sure Jenny (whose frustration I can appreciate) would have no problem discussing something that was demonstrably based on some "pagan"...
Hi Listfolk, I hardly expected such furor from a simple request. What little information I found about either of these holidays was not enough to satisfy my...
In a message dated 05/10/2004 17:34:29 GMT Standard Time, Tunni@... writes: So how are we going to deal with it? As usual, I've only received some of the...
Reassuringly Dawn ... predominantly Christian or Pagan and that really doesn't matter to me. That's a relief to me at least, for I would not wish to subscribe...
Hello Everyone, I am Lisa, I am new to this list so first let me say hello to everyone!:) Now I want to ask, what is 'Neo-Pagan (that's PagAN not PagEN)...
Hi Steve, Well, in my opinion, there are no hard and fast rules to determine either Pagan or Christian Folklore as both will have overarching elements so what...
Dawn explained her viewpoint. Thank you. ... Indeed it may. Lisa asked ... Not my term (well, the twod bit anyway) but I think I understand what is meant....
... is "Christian ... particular case, for ... not they have ... Hello Again, Thank you for the answer to my question. In response to what you said above I...
Hi Lisa,Gosh the list has hotted up eh? Well done Jenny! I too would hate to see anybody leave because they don't like the discussion, whatever their belief. ...
Certainly reflected the current fashionable thinking of his time (now out of favour), Just as does Ron Hutton. I don't like either of their approaches, but...
... Without wanting to get mucked in any 'neo-pagan twod', I'm wondering what (in the opinion of those here who are better educated in this subject)---what...
No probs here, especially if it stays on topic and does not wander too far. I mean IF our customs are based on an older calendar then very significant. I am...
Hello all I've just joined the group. I have a long standing interest in British traditional customs and folk music. Like many I suppose this interest...
Hi Mark, I'm not the welcoming committee or anything but welcome. Very informative website you've got there, thanks for the link. And I've been a fan of the...
OK lets talk Wickerman. Fascinating and good film, really good story and yarn. But my question is has it done more harm than good to English folklore as it is...
Keith asked re the Wickerman film. ... as it is fanciful and totally inaccurate? That's an interesting point, Keith. If it has fostered an interest in the ...
Hi Dawn, thanks for your email. Good point about Maddy Prior, she's there with Tim Hart and as part of other bands but not in her own right. I'll be certain...
Hi all I think for folklorists it's been a mixed blessing and in fact, you've hit on a strong element of my web site's purpose. I'll go into how I got to here...
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