Hi all,
I'm in the creative mood and got out a piece of brocade to make a
bodice.  My pattern leaves a lot of extra fabric, but not enough to
line the bodice.  I have another fabric for this, but I got to
thinking about how to use that extra brocade...  I have enough to add
tabs to the bottom and sleeves, but I've never done this before, so I
have questions.

Should I cut them as part of the main pattern or add them
individually?  Are there any rules about size or number of tabs?  I
was thinking of rectangles, but should the bottom edge slant with the
bodice?  Same question for the sleeves.  If I make this bugger this
fancy, am I obligated to lace it up the back?  Does anyone have quick
access to photos of bodices with tabs?

Thanks,
Clare

Hi -
I don't remember running across any period pictures of bodices with
tabs (not to say there aren't any, just don't remember running across
them yet), but Simplicity costume pattern 3782 has tabs on the bodice.
  It's actually a pretty good pattern, sleeves are made in period
style, as is the bodice.
cate

--- In EndeweardeTailor@yahoogroups.com, "Wendi"
<lobster_kelaguen@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I'm in the creative mood and got out a piece of brocade to make a
> bodice.  My pattern leaves a lot of extra fabric, but not enough to
> line the bodice.  I have another fabric for this, but I got to
> thinking about how to use that extra brocade...  I have enough to add
> tabs to the bottom and sleeves, but I've never done this before, so I
> have questions.
>
> Should I cut them as part of the main pattern or add them
> individually?  Are there any rules about size or number of tabs?  I
> was thinking of rectangles, but should the bottom edge slant with the
> bodice?  Same question for the sleeves.  If I make this bugger this
> fancy, am I obligated to lace it up the back?  Does anyone have quick
> access to photos of bodices with tabs?
>
> Thanks,
> Clare
>

Hi there--I found this online:
http://www.stimpzillasumptuarylaw.com/TapestrySilkGown.html
Don't know if it is perfectly "period", but it's got good pics.
Agatha

> Hi all,
> I'm in the creative mood and got out a piece of brocade to make a
> bodice.  My pattern leaves a lot of extra fabric, but not enough to
> line the bodice.  I have another fabric for this, but I got to
> thinking about how to use that extra brocade...  I have enough to add
> tabs to the bottom and sleeves, but I've never done this before, so I
> have questions.
>
> Should I cut them as part of the main pattern or add them
> individually?  Are there any rules about size or number of tabs?  I
> was thinking of rectangles, but should the bottom edge slant with the
> bodice?  Same question for the sleeves.  If I make this bugger this
> fancy, am I obligated to lace it up the back?  Does anyone have quick
> access to photos of bodices with tabs?
>
> Thanks,
> Clare
>

Hi,

I bought a new hoop skirt for Tudor/Ren gowns. I know it can be twisted to be
much smaller since it arrived "folded" in a box.

If you have a hoop skirt, how are you storing it? With or without being folded?
Has it warped any based on how you are storing it?

I'm reluctant to store the hoop skirt folded over as it arrived when shipped to
me. I'm afraid it won't pop back into the correct form. I was thinking of making
a dust cover case for it so I can hang it up for storage someplace (along an
empty wall or inside a closet without a door - not many spaces for it to go in
my small home).

Opinions welcome. If I needed to I could twist it for transport to a weekend
event.

Bryn

Is it made with one continuous wire?  Or multiple rings?


--- In EndeweardeTailor@yahoogroups.com, L T <ladybrynmillar@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I bought a new hoop skirt for Tudor/Ren gowns. I know it can be
twisted to be much smaller since it arrived "folded" in a box.
>
> If you have a hoop skirt, how are you storing it? With or without
being folded? Has it warped any based on how you are storing it?
>
> I'm reluctant to store the hoop skirt folded over as it arrived when
shipped to me. I'm afraid it won't pop back into the correct form. I
was thinking of making a dust cover case for it so I can hang it up
for storage someplace (along an empty wall or inside a closet without
a door - not many spaces for it to go in my small home).
>
> Opinions welcome. If I needed to I could twist it for transport to a
weekend event.
>
> Bryn
>

then I would think it would hold it's shape fine if stored flat.  I
think clare's is like that.
cate

--- In EndeweardeTailor@yahoogroups.com, L T <ladybrynmillar@...> wrote:
>
> 4 separate hoop rings. Flattens down quite nicely but is a bit wide.
>
> Bryn
>
> --- On Fri, 1/2/09, Kelley <kelley_rambo@...> wrote:
>
> From: Kelley <kelley_rambo@...>
> Subject: [EndeweardeTailor] Re: hoop skirt storage opinion needed
> To: EndeweardeTailor@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 7:05 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Is it made with one continuous wire? Or multiple rings?
>
> --- In EndeweardeTailor@ yahoogroups. com, L T <ladybrynmillar@ ...>
wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I bought a new hoop skirt for Tudor/Ren gowns. I know it can be
> twisted to be much smaller since it arrived "folded" in a box.
> >
> > If you have a hoop skirt, how are you storing it? With or without
> being folded? Has it warped any based on how you are storing it?
> >
> > I'm reluctant to store the hoop skirt folded over as it arrived when
> shipped to me. I'm afraid it won't pop back into the correct form. I
> was thinking of making a dust cover case for it so I can hang it up
> for storage someplace (along an empty wall or inside a closet without
> a door - not many spaces for it to go in my small home).
> >
> > Opinions welcome. If I needed to I could twist it for transport to a
> weekend event.
> >
> > Bryn
> >
>

Yes, I've stored mine a few different ways.
1. On the dummy as part of a displayed ensemble.
2. Simply flattened and hung on a hook on the wall.
3. Hard to admit, but I've stored it in a very large garbage bag with
a bit sticking out the top and hung the bag by it's straps.  If you do
this for a long time, your skirt gets a bit oblong shaped, so I
usually only use that technique when taking it somewhere to keep it clean.

I do not fold mine and really wouldn't recommend it, even if it can be
done.

Hey, thanks for your info. about the bodice.  Also, I had no idea my
name and device passed, so Whoopie!

I've been collecting holiday table clothes at 50-70% off to use for
garb-type experimentations, but have been too chilly to get moving on
my projects.

Hoop skirts can also be stored on the floor, flat against the wall,
behind sewing tables. :)

Much Luck,
Clare.
--- In EndeweardeTailor@yahoogroups.com, "Kelley" <kelley_rambo@...>
wrote:
>
> then I would think it would hold it's shape fine if stored flat.  I
> think clare's is like that.
> cate
>
> --- In EndeweardeTailor@yahoogroups.com, L T <ladybrynmillar@> wrote:
> >
> > 4 separate hoop rings. Flattens down quite nicely but is a bit wide.
> >
> > Bryn
> >
> > --- On Fri, 1/2/09, Kelley <kelley_rambo@> wrote:
> >
> > From: Kelley <kelley_rambo@>
> > Subject: [EndeweardeTailor] Re: hoop skirt storage opinion needed
> > To: EndeweardeTailor@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 7:05 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Is it made with one continuous wire? Or multiple rings?
> >
> > --- In EndeweardeTailor@ yahoogroups. com, L T <ladybrynmillar@ ...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I bought a new hoop skirt for Tudor/Ren gowns. I know it can be
> > twisted to be much smaller since it arrived "folded" in a box.
> > >
> > > If you have a hoop skirt, how are you storing it? With or without
> > being folded? Has it warped any based on how you are storing it?
> > >
> > > I'm reluctant to store the hoop skirt folded over as it arrived when
> > shipped to me. I'm afraid it won't pop back into the correct form. I
> > was thinking of making a dust cover case for it so I can hang it up
> > for storage someplace (along an empty wall or inside a closet without
> > a door - not many spaces for it to go in my small home).
> > >
> > > Opinions welcome. If I needed to I could twist it for transport to a
> > weekend event.
> > >
> > > Bryn
> > >
> >
>

Hi folks,

My Girlfriend has agreed to come to her very first SCA event, the
TOL. I've already spoken to some of the people that are probably on
this list about dressing her; Brian/Mel, Leo, Analalita...

Gold Key has nothing in size 8 and she doesn't want to borrow an
appropriate dress as she is worried to death about damaging or
staining something that isn't hers.

So, we are now on the path of looking for a dress that we can buy,
either new or used. We've been looking at online sites where the
prices are within our range. We are worried about the quality of
dresses. When you don't really know the online provider it's
difficult to trust.

Does anyone know of anyone in Maine that makes simple 'starter'
dresses? Know of anyone that is selling size 8 ish (we can have it
taken in) used dresses?

Anyone have experience with a particular online site that would allow
me to feel a little more comfortable in dealing with them?

I've used Cloak and Dagger once and it was a good experience, However
it's all pretty thin Cotton material, not so great for a cold Brick
Church event... but it will do if we have no other suggestions.

I so want this to be a positive experience so she'll come back with a
smile! =)

thank you,

Neville Sudlow

Hi,

Do you have any time period or style in mind for the ladies garb (or price
range?).

You can get good serviceable garb through some of these links (outside of Maine)

    www.renstore.com
      twill bodices hold up pretty well (I have two) - in basic colors
      good basic Ren starter  clothes if you get a chemise, bodice and
      skirt. All three pieces could be worn with her regular wardrobe
      if she doesn't like the medieval recreation (the chemise becomes
      a nightie; wear bodice unlaced with jeans and a t-shirt
      and a long skirt makes a nice dressy long skirt).
      Easy to mail order something and get the "Standard Wench" look
      in nice basic colors. Easiest to merge into your everyday wardrobe.
      I started with blue and green bodices and got a black skirt.
      Wear it over a white chemise.

    www.historicenterprises.com  (more authentic and more $$$$)
       linens... nice but plain stuff.. good to use as visual guide
       if sewing your own clothes. Earlier period clothing.

    http://www.thornyrose.com/ladys.html
       usually at Birka - she gathers her skirts to the waistband rather
       than selling the simpler drawstring skirt (and the skirts are
       a bit heavier twill). It makes for a better overall fit and costs
       about the same. Nice bodices in a variety of sizes. Simple
       cotton chemises. I have a nice skirt (twill) and bodice
       (polyester outside/cotton lining) from this shop.
       Some polyester or poly/cotton but it looks ok. I think you need to
       see the stock in person to see the variety of bodices available.
       The bodice I bought was lined with another material.

       The purple jumper style dress at the bottom of this link with
       a chemise would feel sufficiently "dressy" to her and would
       suit a slender figure like hers. It will be cotton though
       unless you get the fancier fabric which *might* be a heavier weight
       polyester (my best guess).

A cloak as a cover up will make her more comfortable at Tourney of Love and is
another good wardrobe piece. You can add a lining inside a cloak if you need
something warmer.

I think most of us realize that if you want really nice garb eventually you will
make your own. The hardest part can be finding decent materials to work with
that doesn't make you feel as though you are wearing Granny's couch cushion
covers to an event (patterns from the home decor section of the fabric store).
There is a limited supply of linen at JoAnns Fabric (on sale at 30% off per
yard), a place near Fairfield (I think) to get wool, and several mail order
sources that sells nice wools, linens, silks, and cottons for a decent price.

I agree about cotton not being very pleasant for cold winter wear here in Maine.
I'd only worry about being a bit chilly at TOL if standing near an open doorway
in a direct blast of cold air- the building will be well heated and there will
be many people present. No doubt the fighters and fencers will appreciate it if
the room isn't too overheated that day.

I suggest she picks out a couple of styles that she likes and then see what is
would cost to make or to purchase the items. Sometimes it is easiest to purchase
a few fitted pieces if you are just learning to sew. Count on having to hem any
item to fit her. She might be game to make something once she knows what styles
she likes best.

Don't forget to reserve for feast and bring your own feastgear for the event.

Bryn


--- On Fri, 1/9/09, Jason <jbgood789@...> wrote:

Hi folks,

My Girlfriend has agreed to come to her very first SCA event, the
TOL. I've already spoken to some of the people that are probably on
this list about dressing her; Brian/Mel, Leo, Analalita...

Gold Key has nothing in size 8 and she doesn't want to borrow an
appropriate dress as she is worried to death about damaging or
staining something that isn't hers.

So, we are now on the path of looking for a dress that we can buy,
either new or used. We've been looking at online sites where the
prices are within our range. We are worried about the quality of
dresses. When you don't really know the online provider it's
difficult to trust.

Does anyone know of anyone in Maine that makes simple 'starter'
dresses? Know of anyone that is selling size 8 ish (we can have it
taken in) used dresses?

Anyone have experience with a particular online site that would allow
me to feel a little more comfortable in dealing with them?

I've used Cloak and Dagger once and it was a good experience, However
it's all pretty thin Cotton material, not so great for a cold Brick
Church event... but it will do if we have no other suggestions.

I so want this to be a positive experience so she'll come back with a
smile! =)

thank you,

Neville Sudlow

I like castlegardencreations.com  They do very good work, quality,
period, and well priced.  I also know Mel has a gown from Sophie's
Stitches.

Mardens has some tapestry and brocades right now for $3.99 per yard in
Waterville.

She is also welcomed to come browse my closet.  I have lots of styles
and she could see if she wanted to borrow anything.  I am unconcerned
about her ruining anything.  If she just wants to try styles, that's
fine, too.  I'm 36" and 29" these clothes are somewhat adjustable, so
if you think they would fit, let me know.  I have quite a lot and
would be happy to share.

Let me know,
Clare

--- In EndeweardeTailor@yahoogroups.com, L T <ladybrynmillar@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Do you have any time period or style in mind for the ladies garb (or
price range?).
>
> You can get good serviceable garb through some of these links
(outside of Maine)
>
>    www.renstore.com
>      twill bodices hold up pretty well (I have two) - in basic colors
>      good basic Ren starter  clothes if you get a chemise, bodice and
>      skirt. All three pieces could be worn with her regular wardrobe
>      if she doesn't like the medieval recreation (the chemise becomes
>      a nightie; wear bodice unlaced with jeans and a t-shirt
>      and a long skirt makes a nice dressy long skirt).
>      Easy to mail order something and get the "Standard Wench" look
>      in nice basic colors. Easiest to merge into your everyday wardrobe.
>      I started with blue and green bodices and got a black skirt.
>      Wear it over a white chemise.
>
>    www.historicenterprises.com  (more authentic and more $$$$)
>       linens... nice but plain stuff.. good to use as visual guide
>       if sewing your own clothes. Earlier period clothing.
>
>    http://www.thornyrose.com/ladys.html
>       usually at Birka - she gathers her skirts to the waistband rather
>       than selling the simpler drawstring skirt (and the skirts are
>       a bit heavier twill). It makes for a better overall fit and costs
>       about the same. Nice bodices in a variety of sizes. Simple
>       cotton chemises. I have a nice skirt (twill) and bodice
>       (polyester outside/cotton lining) from this shop.
>       Some polyester or poly/cotton but it looks ok. I think you need to
>       see the stock in person to see the variety of bodices available.
>       The bodice I bought was lined with another material.
>
>       The purple jumper style dress at the bottom of this link with
>       a chemise would feel sufficiently "dressy" to her and would
>       suit a slender figure like hers. It will be cotton though
>       unless you get the fancier fabric which *might* be a heavier
weight
>       polyester (my best guess).
>
> A cloak as a cover up will make her more comfortable at Tourney of
Love and is another good wardrobe piece. You can add a lining inside a
cloak if you need something warmer.
>
> I think most of us realize that if you want really nice garb
eventually you will make your own. The hardest part can be finding
decent materials to work with that doesn't make you feel as though you
are wearing Granny's couch cushion covers to an event (patterns from
the home decor section of the fabric store). There is a limited supply
of linen at JoAnns Fabric (on sale at 30% off per yard), a place near
Fairfield (I think) to get wool, and several mail order sources that
sells nice wools, linens, silks, and cottons for a decent price.
>
> I agree about cotton not being very pleasant for cold winter wear
here in Maine. I'd only worry about being a bit chilly at TOL if
standing near an open doorway in a direct blast of cold air- the
building will be well heated and there will be many people present. No
doubt the fighters and fencers will appreciate it if the room isn't
too overheated that day.
>
> I suggest she picks out a couple of styles that she likes and then
see what is would cost to make or to purchase the items. Sometimes it
is easiest to purchase a few fitted pieces if you are just learning to
sew. Count on having to hem any item to fit her. She might be game to
make something once she knows what styles she likes best.
>
> Don't forget to reserve for feast and bring your own feastgear for
the event.
>
> Bryn
>
>
> --- On Fri, 1/9/09, Jason <jbgood789@...> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> My Girlfriend has agreed to come to her very first SCA event, the
> TOL. I've already spoken to some of the people that are probably on
> this list about dressing her; Brian/Mel, Leo, Analalita...
>
> Gold Key has nothing in size 8 and she doesn't want to borrow an
> appropriate dress as she is worried to death about damaging or
> staining something that isn't hers.
>
> So, we are now on the path of looking for a dress that we can buy,
> either new or used. We've been looking at online sites where the
> prices are within our range. We are worried about the quality of
> dresses. When you don't really know the online provider it's
> difficult to trust.
>
> Does anyone know of anyone in Maine that makes simple 'starter'
> dresses? Know of anyone that is selling size 8 ish (we can have it
> taken in) used dresses?
>
> Anyone have experience with a particular online site that would allow
> me to feel a little more comfortable in dealing with them?
>
> I've used Cloak and Dagger once and it was a good experience, However
> it's all pretty thin Cotton material, not so great for a cold Brick
> Church event... but it will do if we have no other suggestions.
>
> I so want this to be a positive experience so she'll come back with a
> smile! =)
>
> thank you,
>
> Neville Sudlow
>

Hi everyone, and especially Mira, who put on the kirtle workshop--
I've got my kirtle almost done!  After two attempts at sleeves, and a near gore
disaster, it's looking pretty good!  I'll post pics soon, but I do have a
question:  How far apart do the eyelets for lacing need to be?  Also, I am
looking for lacing cord.  Joann's has a limited amount of lacing in mostly black
and white.  Where else should I look?
Anyone's advice would be much appreciated!
YIS
Agatha

should the holes be put in in an alternating pattern?  Not straight across from
each other so that the spiral lacing looks good?
YIS
Agatha

Seems I'm having my own little monologue here--I've been looking for pictures on
the web showing how to make lacing eyelets for kirtles and where to place them. 
It looks like the eyelets are sewn in a staggered pattern with the top two and
bottom two lining up.  Does that sound right?
Agatha

  --- In EndeweardeTailor@yahoogroups.com, "Rachel Case" <knittyprincess@...>
wrote:
>
> should the holes be put in in an alternating pattern?  Not straight across
from each other so that the spiral lacing looks good?
> YIS
> Agatha
>

Thanks, Sara and Mary for the advice!  The Zen of Spiral Lacing website is
perfect for what I need.  :)
YIS Agatha

--- In EndeweardeTailor@yahoogroups.com, Mary M <mmerry2@...> wrote:
>
> try the Zen of Spiral Lacing: 
http://www.festiveattyre.com/research/lacing/lacing.html
>
> yis
>
> Mary
>

well, I stopped at Marden's today and picked up a large amount of yellow velvet
for a dollar yard. I was wondering if someone could help me on the easiest way
in making a pair of hosing for that boy of mine. maybe I should trim Logan's
Green cotehardie with the yellow. have any idea crew

Greetings everyone--
I'm looking for some wool flannel fabric for making a gown (probably a Moy
gown).  Does anyone know where wool can be purchased either online or locally
for a good price?
Agatha

I did know about that website--they sell coat weight wool and it says they only
sell in 1 yard increments.  :(


  --- In EndeweardeTailor@yahoogroups.com, Jason goodrich <jbgood789@...> wrote:
>
> Oxfordmill
>
> http://www.oxfordmillendstore.com/
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Rachel Case <knittyprincess@...>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Greetings everyone--
> > I'm looking for some wool flannel fabric for making a gown (probably a Moy
> > gown). Does anyone know where wool can be purchased either online or locally
> > for a good price?
> > Agatha
> >
> >
> >
>

Hi all,
Well, I tried it.  I made the Ao dai.  Heck, I even bought the matching hat.  I
didn't quite finish the fastenings, because by that time I noticed something... 
It was not especially flattering on me.  So, if anyone wants to take over my ao
dai, let me know.  It's a rosy red with nice white flowy pants.

Luckily, I've slimmed since the winter and will be able to fit back into my
cotehardies for GNEW.  Whoo.

Hope your experiments go better!
Lady Clare

Yay, I think it would look better on one of you.  With me, it's the shoulder
issue.  I think I need a neckline that breaks up the expanse.

Clare

--- In EndeweardeTailor@yahoogroups.com, Marjorie Adams <jorie6568@...> wrote:
>
> Well, we would be more than happy to come try it on and see how it looks.  Why
do you think it looks unflattering?  Can we fix it so it is not?
>
> --- On Mon, 6/29/09, Wendi <lobster_kelaguen@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Wendi <lobster_kelaguen@...>
> Subject: [EndeweardeTailor] Ao Dai
> To: EndeweardeTailor@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 29, 2009, 3:37 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi all,
> Well, I tried it. I made the Ao dai. Heck, I even bought the matching hat. I
didn't quite finish the fastenings, because by that time I noticed something...
It was not especially flattering on me. So, if anyone wants to take over my ao
dai, let me know. It's a rosy red with nice white flowy pants.
>
> Luckily, I've slimmed since the winter and will be able to fit back into my
cotehardies for GNEW. Whoo.
>
> Hope your experiments go better!
> Lady Clare
>