It's interesting to see and hear what the religious tricksters and conmen come up with in order to rationalize their guilt away. They will claim to be...
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Janice Pfeiffer
jepfeiffer...
Feb 4, 2012 10:13 pm
I always did have a problem with the living eck master thing but I tried so hard to over come the resistance. I did for the most part I think because I did...
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prometheus_973
Feb 5, 2012 3:51 am
Hello Janice and All, Thanks for sharing. I'll respond below. Janice wrote: I always did have a problem with the living eck master thing but I tried so hard to...
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apollonius2k
Feb 5, 2012 3:54 am
Greetings Prometheus and all, I have read with great interest your postings over the years. I must however disagree with your hypothesis that Spiritual Freedom...
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prometheus_973
Feb 5, 2012 5:35 am
Hello Apollonius and All, I'm not wrong. One cannot find enlightenment via the the false teachings of Eckankar. It's called delusional, wishful, and magical...
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Janice Pfeiffer
jepfeiffer...
Feb 5, 2012 8:32 pm
Prometheus is right. You see what you expect to see cuz you are programmed to associate all your experiences to eckankar. About the blue light thing. ...
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prometheus_973
Feb 5, 2012 10:46 pm
Hello Again Apollonius, I reread my comments to you and feel that I should apologize for some of what I said. My opinions of Eckankar and of the harm caused by...
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prometheus_973
Feb 5, 2012 11:08 pm
Hello All, Someone sent more crap from the new PT fan club. "Sri Paul Twitchell, again, was the greatest man who ever lived outside the Mahaji (Mahanta) blah,...
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apollonius2k
Feb 6, 2012 4:45 am
Hi Prometheus, Many, and rightfully so, have strong feelings of resentment for being led astray by Eckankar. If you listen to the reasoning of today's Hi's...
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prometheus_973
Feb 6, 2012 8:26 pm
Hello Apollonius and All, I'll respond to your comments below. apollonius wrote: Hi Prometheus, Many, and rightfully so, have strong feelings of resentment for...
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Russ Rodnick
russrodnick
Feb 7, 2012 10:41 pm
I won't disagree concerning your enlightening experiences and I am sure too that even in Eckankar some people find these type of experiences. Â experiences...
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Gnothe Seauton
prometheus_973
Feb 8, 2012 1:44 am
... From: santimvah <santimvah@...> To: EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous-owner@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 11:29 AM Subject: Re: Klemp...
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Janice Pfeiffer
jepfeiffer...
Feb 8, 2012 3:00 am
Mr Arundell,  I feel you are being way too harsh on Apollonius and the other ex hi initiates.  Unless you have been through it, you have no idea what it...
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Janice Pfeiffer
jepfeiffer...
Feb 8, 2012 3:11 am
I did a lot of self discovery and study of various kinds of spiritual paths before I ever heard of eckankar. It didn't prevent me from being suckered in. ...
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Janice Pfeiffer
jepfeiffer...
Feb 8, 2012 3:15 am
Are you serious? Is there really a PT fan club? Well, wouldn't that inflat PT's ego even more than it was. ... From: prometheus_973...
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apollonius2k
Feb 8, 2012 5:21 pm
Good points Prometheus!...
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prometheus_973
Feb 8, 2012 6:45 pm
Hello All, This seemed relevant so I thought I'd repost it with comments below. Another cult follower from the PT Fan Club: "Many people join paths [Eckankar] ...
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prometheus_973
Feb 11, 2012 1:41 am
Hello All, I read where the Bible states that if a person claims to be a prophet and their prophecies don't come true, that this means they are a False Prophet...
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prometheus_973
Feb 12, 2012 7:56 pm
Hello All, I recall that Klemp has stated that he was Lutheran and attended Lutheran private school and was in Seminary for two years. I believe he said he was...
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Janice Pfeiffer
jepfeiffer...
Feb 12, 2012 8:31 pm
Very good point prometheus_973. Most non profits do but then again eckankar is far from being non profit even if they have that status with the government as...
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prometheus_973
Feb 13, 2012 4:49 am
Hello Janice and All, I'd like to see all religions and their properties taxed. Treat them like every other business. There can be no separation of church and...
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Janice Pfeiffer
jepfeiffer...
Feb 13, 2012 7:57 am
Maybe if the IRS heard from enough ex eckist about how they were scammed, losing their nonprofit status might be possible. I don't have a problem with more...
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prometheus_973
Feb 15, 2012 11:42 pm
Hello Janice and All, Janice wrote: Maybe if the IRS heard from enough ex eckist about how they were scammed, losing their nonprofit status might be possible. ...
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Gnothe Seauton
prometheus_973
Feb 17, 2012 1:19 am
... From: Santim Vah <santimvah@...> To: "EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous-owner@yahoogroups.com" <EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous-owner@yahoogroups.com> Cc:...
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Janice Pfeiffer
jepfeiffer...
Feb 17, 2012 3:01 am
Certainly your writing is not concise and is very difficult to follow. Your words appear hostile and belligerent. Instead of being critical of others you...
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Janice Pfeiffer
jepfeiffer...
Feb 17, 2012 3:29 am
Thank you Prometheus _973 for clarifying some about how eckankar finances work. You told me a lot more than I knew before. The problem I have with removing...
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etznab@...
etznab18
Feb 17, 2012 4:32 am
Part of what came to me lately in some of these posts is the question of: What did members do who knew about certain things, but chose to be passive followers...
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russrodnick
Feb 17, 2012 3:33 pm
Good Day All! Take what is good and leave the rest behind. I naturally gravitated toward the part of Eckankar that had been missing in my spiritual practice...
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Janice Pfeiffer
jepfeiffer...
Feb 17, 2012 8:13 pm
Thank you Russ for such a good description of your experience. I too enjoyed the sound part of eckankar teachings and I continued to use Hu for a while after...
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prometheus_973
Feb 17, 2012 10:11 pm
Hello All, Interesting. Yes, Klemp, Gross and Twitchell have taught us about the religious con. Many Eckists are still learning and will never understand the...
