Hello All, This is simply more proof of Eckankar's deceptions. It's come to my attention that Klemp is still using a 10-15 old photo as his "Official Photo"...
Hello Diana and All, At one time Klemp tried contact lens but eventually switched back to glasses. I'm told he received some criticism, from H.I.s via chelas,...
I don't understand why he cares what he looks like he never hardly ever makes public appearences. Maybe he has a double to do all public pr work!!! Diana...
Hello Diana and All, Klemp cares about the more youthful image he's projecting in the PR brochures and his official pic displayed in EK Centers and at Intros...
Hello All, I was thinking back about being passed over for a higher initiation way way back in the late 80s and at the time it really pissed me off. I almost...
I remember when Harold first became the leader he went to vist a mutual friend. The guy asked him when there would be 8 an9th initiates. Harold said never! He...
Eckankar is being reduced to sillyness. People who are trully seeking spiritual enlightenment will begin to leave. Those that are comfortable with authority...
Hello Diana and All, I remember going to the HK's first LEM Youth Conference in Chicago. Everyone was lined up to shake his hand because they/we wanted to...
Hello Diana and All, Yes, the silliness began with Twitchell. That's why Gail and Patti were always giggling about good old fuddy-duddy Paul and his conman ...
Hello All, I found this link that shows how Eckankar is still approaching spiritual seekers with the same old crap and hooks involving karma, dreams, and past...
Isn't it a little less strange now that we're looking at all this rap in our rear view mirrors? We've all got the t-shirt. Trips over. So are we going...
Hello AA, I enjoy your perspective and comments. I think that this site, for me, is to explore not only "why" we all bought into Eckankar, but why we felt we ...
Hello All, It occurred to me to ask something... some ECK trivia. Is Klemp, as the Physical (or lower) Plane Living ECK Master (LEM), a 12th Initiate or is he...
Hello All, I found the comments of this 14th Dalai Lama more interesting than Klemp's dribble. Really, does Klemp even make an attempt to speak or write with...
Hello All, Here's the info from the site I previously tried to post. ************************************ Do You Think Leviticus Law Applies To Christians...
Hello All, This is Klemp's eighth book in his "Immorality of Soul" series. I find the advertising for this book interesting- It states that these words will...
I guess we'll never know since ECKankar doesn't have an open book policy! Why is that? Shouldn't any H.I. have the right to know? Anyway, let's assume that ...
I have decided there is no spiritual path. If you are sitting in your living room you don't need a path to find it! I feel it is a matter of becoming aware of...
Hello Diana and All, Way back before Twitchell became a religious scammer he shared some opinions that, I believe, were insightful. It was when he talked about...
I don't believe in Karma. I believe counciousness is always taking form. When a form is nolonger able to function or die counciousness simply returns to it...
From one perspective these questions reinforce the fundamentally delusional system. Analysis of the card stock used to build the house of cards. Life provides...
Hello Austin, I disagree with the premise that using EK speak reenforces their delusion. It's merely being used as a communication tool. After all, that's why ...
Prometheus - I don't believe it is an either/or situation. True Believers in any organization or political system will awaken from the state of group think...
Hello Austin and All, I'm not clear as to what the sticking point is. Shouldn't we former Eckists ask and answer specific questions about what we (as Eckists) ...
Hello Diana and All, Thanks for sharing your thoughts and for getting me to rethink some positions. IMO-It's really hard to say what is what, especially, after...
Hi Austin & Prometheus, Maybe it's just me, but reading the daily digest of this thread, it seems to me that there's some misunderstanding of what the other's...
