Read the second open letter. It's a little different. http://www.thetruth-seeker.com/SecondOpenLetter.aspx ... From: jonathanjohns96...
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jonathanjohns96
Sep 21, 2010 2:00 am
Etznab, As soon as I read the following sentence by Julian Johnson quoting Vivekananda I said "Yep. That's in Eckankar's writings somewhere." "A man may...
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jonathanjohns96
Sep 21, 2010 2:10 am
Etznab, So that paragraph in the Ford's first letter to Klemp where Ford seems hopeful that Klemp will actually address Twitchell's lies and curses was in...
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jonathanjohns96
Sep 21, 2010 2:31 am
All, Does anybody but me remember Paul Twitchell's strange speech quirks? Here are three that I remember: "inter" for "inner" as in "inter master" "perbatim";...
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postekcon
Sep 21, 2010 3:18 am
My favorite PT quirk: "or thereabouts" PT used this phrase when he was spinning a tall tale; did not want to commit; or was making it all up, on the fly, as he...
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jonathanjohns96
Sep 22, 2010 9:53 am
I woke up early this morning and read a CNN news article about a Christian preacher who is the head of a megachurch. ...
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jonathanjohns96
Sep 22, 2010 10:01 am
"The Path Of The Masters" is no longer available as a free download. Hopefully, some people downloaded a copy and still have it on their hard drive. I didn't....
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jonathanjohns96
Sep 22, 2010 10:38 am
Eckankar's version of this tactic to keep members in check goes like this. They typically say the following things: "Former member Ford Johnson is under the...
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Drew van Rijk
drewvanr
Sep 22, 2010 6:51 pm
yes , so true! I remember when I asked some local fellow HI's what they thought of Ford's book in 2003 and all I got was, "We  won't read it, Ford has become...
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jonathanjohns96
Sep 27, 2010 6:18 am
I'm going to give you another example of how Eckankar enforces it's teachings on its members and does not allow them to do their own thing or suggest things...
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jonathanjohns96
Sep 28, 2010 1:02 am
All, I have some interesting additional thoughts on the "enforcer"; at the Eck center. Point 1 One of the things that bothers me about people like Jeff...
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prometheus_973
Sep 30, 2010 6:52 pm
Hello Drew and All, I knew of H.I.s who bought Ford's book, speed read it, and then threw it away least it might further contaminate their thoughts or have a...
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prometheus_973
Sep 30, 2010 6:53 pm
Hello Jonathan and All, This H.I., Jeff MacHammer, needed an Arahata Training refresher course. One does not add to or correct a person who is sharing views/ ...
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prometheus_973
Sep 30, 2010 8:38 pm
Hello Jonathan and All, I'd like to comment on the additional thoughts you had concerning this H.I. and spiritual fraud under Klemp's rule. jonathan wrote: ...
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prometheus_973
Oct 3, 2010 10:27 am
I was listening to the church bells ringing today, from all around my apartment, and wondered why Klemp hasn't installed some church/temple bells at the Temple...
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sfarthi
Oct 3, 2010 10:28 am
My SO is a long time Eckist, I think level 5 or 6 or something. She used to 'contemplate' 30 minutes a day and at some point that increased to 60 minutes and...
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prometheus_973
Oct 4, 2010 10:04 am
Hello Sfarthi, I've seen this same phenomena happen in Transcendental Meditation (TM). However, in many cases the 20 minute time for meditation was...
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prometheus_973
Oct 6, 2010 5:19 pm
In the June 2010 Mystic World Ask the Master is this Q&A by an Unknown ECKist: Q: "In your story of the ecotour guide from your 2008 talk "The Tensions of...
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prometheus_973
Oct 7, 2010 11:19 pm
Hello All, I thought I'd give this its own thread and add some additional observations. It's funny how ECKists just accept Klemp's bullshit and don't look at...
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prometheus_973
Oct 8, 2010 2:59 pm
Hello All, I just read an article, in the 09/2010 H.I. Letter, by an ESC staffer. This ESC staffer was thinking about an old classmate and decided she'd do an...
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prometheus_973
Oct 9, 2010 3:03 am
http://www.bibleprobe.com/miracles.htm Check it out. Click on the angel visit HERE and scroll down to read of more visitations. All I did was Google...
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prometheus_973
Oct 13, 2010 3:58 pm
The Wishy-Washy LEM/Mahanta Side-Steps the Issues and then shows a hawkish side to his nature. Q: "You have spoken about ECKankar becoming a worldwide...
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prometheus_973
Oct 13, 2010 5:55 pm
Harold Klemp is guilty of Spiritual Identity Theft. He has told ECKists that Soul=Soul but doesn't practice what he preaches. Plus, Higher Initiates,...
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prometheus_973
Oct 18, 2010 7:09 pm
Hello All, Klemp's answer to the question posed to him is very strange. Yet, as expected, HK's reply is very self-serving. I'll respond to both Q&A below. ...
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prometheus_973
Oct 21, 2010 6:29 pm
These are cross-posts from EckankarTruth. I placed them in the order in which they were written. "tomleafeater" wrote: This has all been said before in far...
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prometheus_973
Oct 23, 2010 8:24 am
In the October, 2010 Youth in ECK Letter of Light there are "Questions for the Master." One question is from a ten year old girl (Lili) asking if she will be...
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prometheus_973
Oct 24, 2010 9:57 pm
The H.I. Letter - 09/2010 Klemp: "Dear Brothers of the Leaf, These are truly spiritually vibrant times. Ripples of large and small earthquakes sweep across the...
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prometheus_973
Oct 30, 2010 5:47 pm
"A fireball meteor crashes into the atmosphere and burns up, while buildings rattle from its sonic boom, and people wonder at the glorious display of light ...
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prometheus_973
Oct 30, 2010 7:39 pm
"And what part, if any, does the Large Hadron Collider play in the earth's temblors?" The above quote, from the 09/2010 H.I. Letter, is another example of ...
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prometheus_973
Oct 31, 2010 6:33 pm
These are excerpts from Klemp's 09/2010 H.I. Letter. "Ripples of large and small earthquakes sweep across the earth, and fear grips people." "A fireball meteor...
