The kid's question to Klemp was: Q: "Time is going by so fast for me. How can I enjoy life when it is going by so fast? Sam, age 12" Me (Jonathan) First of...
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Zoey
zzoey75
Feb 11, 2010 7:55 pm
For the longest time I kept believing that Klemp's words, advice, etc were over-my-head. The truth is, he makes no sense. Not one damn bit. zoey...
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prometheus_973
Feb 11, 2010 8:24 pm
Here's Klemp's 2nd (technology related) Q & A from the 01/2010 Youth in ECK Letter of Light. #2 of 3 Q: "With technology consistently advancing and people...
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Zoey
zzoey75
Feb 11, 2010 9:29 pm
Colleen, thank you for this. We need to know these things. We need a full picture of these people, these people claiming Holy stature. On another note, I...
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prometheus_973
Feb 11, 2010 9:33 pm
Hello Jonathan and All, I agree with your observations. However, ECKist's are taught that Klemp (the Mahanta) is All Knowing, therefore, this qualifies him to...
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postekcon
Feb 12, 2010 8:48 am
A teen having problems because technology is advancing too fast! A teen complaining technology is interfering with their personal space! A teen writing...
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prometheus_973
Feb 12, 2010 9:49 pm
Hello Postekcon and All, Klemp tells this young Vahana, "Begin to Shut-Down Group C." This grouping includes the "occasional contacts" of this, brain-washed...
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postekcon
Feb 13, 2010 6:24 am
Good comment Prometheus. If the actual wording of the technology question is examined, it's clear this question was never composed by someone educated 21st...
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prometheus_973
Feb 13, 2010 7:20 pm
Hello All, Here's the last Q & A from the January 2010 Youth in ECK - Letter of Light by Harold John Klemp (HJK). However, since #3 has multiple questions and...
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Zoey
zzoey75
Feb 15, 2010 3:26 am
A friend called me today to tell me that she had quit eckankar. She phoned an ESA that she was comfortable with, and briefly said that it wasn't for her any...
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prometheus_973
Feb 15, 2010 10:01 am
Hello Zoey and All, Maybe the RESA would want any keys to the ECK Center, their I.D. cards, as well as, Initiator and ESA materials, Director/Coordinator Job...
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jonathanjohns96
Feb 16, 2010 7:42 am
Zoey, First of all, phoning an ESA to inform them that you want to quit is a very bad idea because all you are doing is giving them an opening to convince you...
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prometheus_973
Feb 16, 2010 6:30 pm
Hello Jonathan, Zoey, and All, I see leaving Eckankar differently. IMO I wouldn't let the ESC or the local EK leadership know. I would STOP doing following: ...
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Zoey
zzoey75
Feb 16, 2010 8:21 pm
Thanks for this input, jonathan. Not knowing you, I will assume that you mean well. I will also assume that you have experience which dictates your views....
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jonathanjohns96
Feb 17, 2010 2:32 am
Zoey, I'm really confused by your initial post. First you say "A friend called me today to tell me that she had quit Eckankar." Then you say "She phoned an ESA...
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Zoey
zzoey75
Feb 17, 2010 3:12 am
Did your tenure in eckankar teach you nothing, johnathan? Must each of us consult your protocol book prior to leaving the cult? My friend chose not to do a...
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mishmisha9
Feb 17, 2010 4:43 am
I've heard of exit interviews . . . they are done in professional businesses, so once again, I guess eckankar positions the org as one! LOL! Other than...
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postekcon
Feb 17, 2010 5:31 am
Zoey, you sound like an ekultist is disguise here? Why ask questions or raise issues on ESA forum, then start shouting down response because you don't like...
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prometheus_973
Feb 17, 2010 5:50 am
Hello All, I've never heard of "exit interviews" done for a religion either. Is Eckankar a business, or a religion, or both? Both! And, I too wouldn't...
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Zoey
zzoey75
Feb 17, 2010 3:58 pm
Postecon, If you will please direct me to the Operating Manual, the one which dictates what an ex-eckist sounds like, I will be glad to read it. Apparantly,...
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jonathanjohns96
Feb 17, 2010 6:42 pm
All, I decided to look for every YouTube channel that Eckankar has created. I found six of them. By itself, that is not really suspicious that they have six of...
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mishmisha9
Feb 17, 2010 8:26 pm
Jonathan, thanks for posting the links. I really appreciate your work in bringing this information to the front page! Mish...
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mishmisha9
Feb 17, 2010 8:27 pm
I don't see any need for any of us to be attacking one another. This site is for discussing the cult eckankar . . . insults directed at members of ESA are...
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jonathanjohns96
Feb 17, 2010 9:05 pm
All, About two hours ago, I made my first post that mentions this video. Over the past two hours I watched the first part of this video again. When I first...
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prometheus_973
Feb 17, 2010 10:04 pm
Hello Jonathan and All, IMO, The "Golden-Tongued Wisdom," test, heard in this KERNWATCH Mass Marketing video was placed there by Divine Spirit (versus Klemp's,...
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jonathanjohns96
Feb 18, 2010 12:32 am
Prometheus, It's funny that you mention the smirk. Completely unrelated to my recent adventures on YouTube today and yesterday, I went on YouTube about three...
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prometheus_973
Feb 18, 2010 2:16 am
Hello Jonathan, Allow me to rant some- I don't quite agree with your comments in regard to Klemp's video message of "Eckankar- What's It All Really About" when...
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jonathanjohns96
Feb 18, 2010 3:06 am
Prometheus, I agree with you on the "My path isn't yours and yours isn't mine" statement. It should be true in Eckankar, but it really isn't. Or maybe I should...
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jonathanjohns96
Feb 18, 2010 5:28 am
All, I am continuing the discussion which occurred in the following thread: Prometheus: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous/message/5210 ...
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jonathanjohns96
Feb 18, 2010 5:32 am
All, Klemp "Even more, it's about walking YOUR path to God. Because your path is not my path. And my path is not yours." I still say that the words here are...
